Esan Marsters

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What is his position?

From what I have seen he doesn't look out of place in the centres, but be could also be anything in the backrow…

At this stage I would be looking at a Marsters/Suli centre combination for next season, but in saying that we also have Milne joining the club.

Nice to finally see some competition for spots.
 
Would be a super utility player of the bench, I don't think we should carry two hookers next year with the roster we have..Masters is versatile enough to slip in anywhere.
 
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What is his position?

From what I have seen he doesn't look out of place in the centres, but be could also be anything in the backrow…

At this stage I would be looking at a Marsters/Suli centre combination for next season, but in saying that we also have Milne joining the club.

Nice to finally see some competition for spots.

If Rona joins the club, he might also end up in the centres potentially…
 
Had a great game yesterday, and I can only see improvement at Centre for now. Will more than likely end up in the Backrow, but that is 2 years off in my view. I think once a decision is made to switch him to Backrow, he should be given the right preparation of a full off-season before moving him.

Milne doesnt deserve a walk-up start for 2018… We need to make him earn it!
 
We've been calling for him to get a chance and when he did, he made the most of it.
Im a fan.
 
Ultimately he doesn't have the pace to play centre but he can do a decent job there as he's solid defensively and can be a handful running the ball. We don't have any impact back rowers so he could be one off the bench. Another off season will do him the world of good.
 
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Had a great game yesterday, and I can only see improvement at Centre for now. Will more than likely end up in the Backrow, but that is 2 years off in my view. I think once a decision is made to switch him to Backrow, he should be given the right preparation of a full off-season before moving him.

Milne doesnt deserve a walk-up start for 2018… We need to make him earn it!

Yeah, not sure what Ivan's plans are though, if he's desperate to shore up the second row now he may bring him on early. With McQueen as an unknown quantity following his surgery and Lawrence seemingly always injured we're quite lean on competitive second rowers. We don't even know if ET is going to take up his option.

Ivan seems a patient man, he may wait it out with Esan, but who knows.
 
I have been impressed with his development this year. Great when a young player is given a chance and takes it with both hands.

If we do not secure Rona and Kevin moves on why can't we go for a backline of

Lolohea
Nofoaluma
Marsters
Suli
Milne
Reynolds
Brooks

The backline might lack some pace but it would have some size about them and would help our forwards out from kick returns.

Happy for Marsters to play off the bench as I don't believe we should have a hooker on the bench.

As other Forum members have pointed out McQueen has undergone a serious neck operation and Lawrence has lost time through injuries so we may require Aloiai, Marsters, MCK to play second rower during the season. There is talk Taylor may sign with the Warriors.

Bench in 2018

Twal (prop and lock rotation)
Sue/Grant (prop rotation)
Aloiai (prop and second row rotation)
Marsters (backs and forwards)

Additional players

Michael Chee Kam (played well on the weekend)
J J Felise
Matt McIlwrick (if LIddle wins the hooker battle for 2018)
 
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I have been impressed with his development this year. Great when a young player is given a chance and takes it with both hands.

If we do not secure Rona and Kevin moves on why can't we go for a backline of

Lolohea
Nofoaluma
Marsters
Suli
Milne
Reynolds
Brooks

The backline might lack some pace but it would have some size about them and would help our forwards out from kick returns.

Happy for Marsters to play off the bench as I don't believe we should have a hooker on the bench.

As other Forum members have pointed out McQueen has undergone a serious neck operation and Lawrence has lost time through injuries so we may require Aloiai, Marsters, MCK to play second rower during the season. There is talk Taylor may sign with the Warriors.

Bench in 2018

Twal (prop and lock rotation)
Sue/Grant (prop rotation)
Aloiai (prop and second row rotation)
Marsters (backs and forwards)

Additional players

Michael Chee Kam (played well on the weekend)
J J Felise
Matt McIlwrick (if LIddle wins the hooker battle for 2018)

MWZ? I would say Milne will start on the bench first thing in 2018\. Nonetheless we should have great depth in the backline come next year.
 
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I have been impressed with his development this year. Great when a young player is given a chance and takes it with both hands.

If we do not secure Rona and Kevin moves on why can't we go for a backline of

Lolohea
Nofoaluma
Marsters
Suli
Milne
Reynolds
Brooks

The backline might lack some pace but it would have some size about them and would help our forwards out from kick returns.

Happy for Marsters to play off the bench as I don't believe we should have a hooker on the bench.

As other Forum members have pointed out McQueen has undergone a serious neck operation and Lawrence has lost time through injuries so we may require Aloiai, Marsters, MCK to play second rower during the season. There is talk Taylor may sign with the Warriors.

Bench in 2018

Twal (prop and lock rotation)
Sue/Grant (prop rotation)
Aloiai (prop and second row rotation)
Marsters (backs and forwards)

Additional players

Michael Chee Kam (played well on the weekend)
J J Felise
Matt McIlwrick (if LIddle wins the hooker battle for 2018)

MWZ? I would say Milne will start on the bench first thing in 2018\. Nonetheless we should have great depth in the backline come next year.

Fonua? I would argue he'd be ahead of a few mentioned above…
 
Glad he got the opportunity and he's grabbed it with both hands. Think he could play the utility role off the bench but he doesn't look out of place at centre.
 
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I have been impressed with his development this year. Great when a young player is given a chance and takes it with both hands.

If we do not secure Rona and Kevin moves on why can't we go for a backline of

Lolohea
Nofoaluma
Marsters
Suli
Milne
Reynolds
Brooks

The backline might lack some pace but it would have some size about them and would help our forwards out from kick returns.

Happy for Marsters to play off the bench as I don't believe we should have a hooker on the bench.

As other Forum members have pointed out McQueen has undergone a serious neck operation and Lawrence has lost time through injuries so we may require Aloiai, Marsters, MCK to play second rower during the season. There is talk Taylor may sign with the Warriors.

Bench in 2018

Twal (prop and lock rotation)
Sue/Grant (prop rotation)
Aloiai (prop and second row rotation)
Marsters (backs and forwards)

Additional players

Michael Chee Kam (played well on the weekend)
J J Felise
Matt McIlwrick (if LIddle wins the hooker battle for 2018)

MWZ? I would say Milne will start on the bench first thing in 2018\. Nonetheless we should have great depth in the backline come next year.

We're not St George, we can't and shouldn't carry a centre on the bench, especially if we're taking an extra hooker too. MWZ has earned first crack with Kev gone, but for the first time in a while we've got legitimate competition for positions, Milne has a full pre-season to prove himself and I'd back Cleary's call either way.
FWIW, I'd love to see Esan playing on an edge off the bench with
1\. Lolohea
2\. Nofoaluma
3\. Suli
4\. Fonua
5\. Rona/MWZ
 
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i still think his best position is backrow, but yes bench utility at worst next year.

Yeah I agree. He's a capable stop-gap centre, much better than JT previously throwing Lovett to the wolves there, but backrow is his position. When you look at our forward pack as a whole for next year, we have a few options in the backrow so Cleary may need to do some juggling around because I see a lot of upside with some of our forwards…Let's see:

Packer - Front row
Liddle/McIlwrick
Matulino - Front row
McQueen - Backrow
Lawrence - Backrow
Taylor - Lock/Backrow
Aloiai - Backrow
Sue - Front row/back row
Eisenhuth - Front row/backrow/lock
Twal - Front row
Chee-Kam - Backrow (stop gap centre)
Marsters - Backrow (stop gap centre)

We have options. I think Sue needs to focus on front row, and off the bench for impact subject to injuries. Eisenhuth offers more versatility and Twal is also comfortable in the middle. McQueen starts on one edge and either Rowdy or Taylor on the other. We need to make room for Aloiai and Marsters IMO because they both have a bit of footwork, especially Marsters and offer a bit more variety in attack, especially second phase play with offloads.

For next season I don't think we run with two hookers on the bench, we need the firepower in the middle and on the edges so four forwards on the bench, two props and a backrower and a middle player.
 
Happy for Marsters stay in the centres bust tackles, break the line, get away a few offloads, score the odd TRY and rack up 80 Supercoach points a week till the end of the season…

He's more than just a back up centre...
 
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