Everyone needs to chill out !

[happy_tiger]

Sorry but too many years of missing the finals has not only me but a lot of fans lacking patience.

Well if you want to be a Tigers supporter, you need to train yourself to be more patient.

And medicated ...it's only fair and equitable


A prerequisite to be a Wests Tigers supporter is to have your Cardiologist phone number on speed dial.

Medication should be part of the membership package ...numbers would quadruple

 

[trentrunciman]

Some people are definitely over reacting. We improved and lost a close one to the premiership favourites. If we play like that for the rest of the season we will do good. Obviously we could’ve been better but plenty of positives as well. We just need some star players

Not bagging your post at all Josh because what you say is true, but it is also the exact same sentiment that has been echoed about our mob for countless years now. I’m sure I could find posts of a similar vein written every year for the last 10 years on here if I could be bothered to look.

**We play like crap and lose to a team we should realistically beat comfortably, then we improve out of sight to go down narrowly to one of the premiership favourites, we repeat this pattern throughout the season and end up finishing just out of the 8 lamenting those losses to the teams we should’ve beaten easily ...AND...we still just need one or two star players that could make all the difference!

>**
Honestly it’s just ground hog day again and again and again - when will it ever change?

Same every year. Compete with the best and lose to the worst.

Teams which we consistently have trouble with:

* Titans
* Bulldogs
* Knights

Usually it works out like we will beat the cows this week then lose to the dogs next week. Rinse and Repeat.

 

[Sart0ri]

I can see some problems with the Tigers attack, they don't seem to have structures that put the 2nd rower and centre in position to get the ball. You need to look at whats in front of you but you also need to have players ready for some set plays. We also don't seem to have people ready in support like to better teams do.

This needs to be fixed but you have to get the defence, culture, discipline and fitness right first. I think this is what Madge is trying to do, we can see him working on the priorities.

I would rather a slow and methodical approach to create a decade of top 4 results than a quick win now.

 

[Guest]

I can see some problems with the Tigers attack, they don't seem to have structures that put the 2nd rower and centre in position to get the ball. You need to look at whats in front of you but you also need to have players ready for some set plays. We also don't seem to have people ready in support like to better teams do.

This needs to be fixed but you have to get the defence, culture, discipline and fitness right first. I think this is what Madge is trying to do, we can see him working on the priorities.

I would rather a slow and methodical approach to create a decade of top 4 results than a quick win now.

I've noticed that also and it's surprising because I thought we were ok in attack on the edges last year. Garner certainly got put into space a few times and Matterson was used effectively also. Given that we gained the Leilua brothers who realistically are very dangerous close to the line given their size and strength, and Garner who should still be improving, it's a shame we've played very one out up the middle and haven't really played with any shape inside the opposition half. We started to throw a little bit of shape in last week with Doueihi proving hard to handle and that's really where the centres and wingers should have been receiving good ball.

I hope it's something that is rectified in the coming weeks because we're not going to score a lot of points otherwise.

 

[Sart0ri]

I’ve noticed that also and it’s surprising because I thought we were ok in attack on the edges last year. Garner certainly got put into space a few times and Matterson was used effectively also. Given that we gained the Leilua brothers who realistically are very dangerous close to the line given their size and strength, and Garner who should still be improving, it’s a shame we’ve played very one out up the middle and haven’t really played with any shape inside the opposition half. We started to throw a little bit of shape in last week with Doueihi proving hard to handle and that’s really where the centres and wingers should have been receiving good ball.
I hope it’s something that is rectified in the coming weeks because we’re not going to score a lot of points otherwise.

There was one good short ball from Brooks to Lucy but we don't seem to have any plays to create space for the centre and haven't for years.

 

[Harvey]

I am beyond chilling out, we cannot compete with decent NRL clubs. The raiders have been average since the resumption of the season.

 

[TSupps05]

I am beyond chilling out, we cannot compete with decent NRL clubs. The raiders have been average since the resumption of the season.

They played amazing against Melbourne

 

[jirskyr]

Exactly mate, the titans loss was totally unacceptable, and will probably cost us a top 8 shot with our horror run home.

That is nonsense. Every loss is costly, and actually the heavy losses are more costly because of the F/A implications.

I can never understand why people think a close loss is somehow worse than a huge loss. A loss is a loss, same as a win is a win, you don't get points for effort or for near-misses. Whatever the Titans result, it's a loss, there's no gradient about it; the closeness of the score or being in front with 3 to go is irrelevant once the game is done.

At the very least, a close loss means at least you almost won. Of any loss, the close ones are preferable. Huge losses means you were never in it, and teams that end up winning comps rarely get hammered during their regular season run.

The comp is close enough that every team gets beaten by someone lower than them, it happens every week. In other words, upsets abound. The important thing is to win more than half your matches, doesn't matter the opponent.

Losing to Raiders is no more acceptable than losing to Titans.

 

[851]

Exactly mate, the titans loss was totally unacceptable, and will probably cost us a top 8 shot with our horror run home.

That is nonsense. Every loss is costly, and actually the heavy losses are more costly because of the F/A implications.

I can never understand why people think a close loss is somehow worse than a huge loss. A loss is a loss, same as a win is a win, you don't get points for effort or for near-misses. Whatever the Titans result, it's a loss, there's no gradient about it; the closeness of the score or being in front with 3 to go is irrelevant once the game is done.

At the very least, a close loss means at least you almost won. Of any loss, the close ones are preferable. Huge losses means you were never in it, and teams that end up winning comps rarely get hammered during their regular season run.

The comp is close enough that every team gets beaten by someone lower than them, it happens every week. In other words, upsets abound. The important thing is to win more than half your matches, doesn't matter the opponent.

Losing to Raiders is no more acceptable than losing to Titans.

I was talking about the 2 points we didn't get, that we should have got

 

[Harvey]

Decent teams win the games that they should win, we don't and haven't for a long time. Previously it was an attitude problem but I think at the moment there aren't many teams we should be expected to beat.

 

[jirskyr]

I was talking about the 2 points we didn’t get, that we should have got

I know what you are talking about and I think it's nonsense. Under what conditions "should we have got" those two points? Because the game was tight or because they were below us on the table?

 

[851]

I was talking about the 2 points we didn’t get, that we should have got

I know what you are talking about and I think it's nonsense. Under what conditions "should we have got" those two points? Because the game was tight or because they were below us on the table?

Because they stink, and we are the only team who couldn’t beat them this year

 

[jirskyr]

I was talking about the 2 points we didn’t get, that we should have got

I know what you are talking about and I think it's nonsense. Under what conditions "should we have got" those two points? Because the game was tight or because they were below us on the table?

Because they stink, and we are the only team who couldn’t beat them this year

That's just not how it works. There are games you did win and games you didn't win. There are no "should have won" losses, because you didn't win. Even the worst team in the comp can play well sometimes and Titans have only faced 5 opponents this year, so it's not even a big data set.

St George have only won 1 game, beating Cronulla who themselves only have won 1 game, beating Cowboys. Does that make St George better than Cowboys? Cowboys have won 2 games. We have beaten both St George and Cronulla. So which of these is the "worst" team and which of those games "should we" expect to win? They can't all "expect" to beat each other, that mathematically does not work out.

Titans fans may well argue that Tigers game was a game "they should have won" because Tigers are such an ordinary side.

 

[supercoach]

From where I sit the top seven is already determined. Not the order but the top seven on the ladder now be there at the end of the season. That leaves one spot, and with our draw and roster I do not think we will make it. My guess Souths or maybe the Bronks as they will get better when they get some forwards back.

Anyway, I think Madge pretty well knows this and is going to give everyone on the roster a game or two .

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Facts, we played aggressive and tried our hearts out.....does anyone disagree with the effort?
Myths, we are a top 8 side. I just don't think we are a top 8 side on paper. We certainly don't have the class and effort will only get you so far. Keep shopping Madge and everyone else needs to separate their wants from reality.
We will be lucky if we are not bottom 3 by seasons end.

Whether we are a top 8 team is a worthy question...

Let's start with
Rorters
Raiders
Storm
Manly
Eels
Knights

I think we would all agree they are ahead of us.

Then it comes down two spots:

Cows = look to better than us as they have a couple of world class players.

Souths = again, they have some class players / match winners / Origin level we don't have.

So, there is the top 8 probably.

Panthers likely ahead of us on talent.

Broncs also once they get Fifita back....we do not have anyone like Fifita, TPJ and Haas.


Talent wise, we are def not top 8. Probably 11th.

Neither the Cows or Souths will make the 8

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Exactly mate, the titans loss was totally unacceptable, and will probably cost us a top 8 shot with our horror run home.

That is nonsense. Every loss is costly, and actually the heavy losses are more costly because of the F/A implications.

I can never understand why people think a close loss is somehow worse than a huge loss. A loss is a loss, same as a win is a win, you don't get points for effort or for near-misses. Whatever the Titans result, it's a loss, there's no gradient about it; the closeness of the score or being in front with 3 to go is irrelevant once the game is done.

At the very least, a close loss means at least you almost won. Of any loss, the close ones are preferable. Huge losses means you were never in it, and teams that end up winning comps rarely get hammered during their regular season run.

The comp is close enough that every team gets beaten by someone lower than them, it happens every week. In other words, upsets abound. The important thing is to win more than half your matches, doesn't matter the opponent.

Losing to Raiders is no more acceptable than losing to Titans.

I was talking about the 2 points we didn't get, that we should have got

Every team loses games they should have won. That’s footy.

 

[851]

Exactly mate, the titans loss was totally unacceptable, and will probably cost us a top 8 shot with our horror run home.

That is nonsense. Every loss is costly, and actually the heavy losses are more costly because of the F/A implications.

I can never understand why people think a close loss is somehow worse than a huge loss. A loss is a loss, same as a win is a win, you don't get points for effort or for near-misses. Whatever the Titans result, it's a loss, there's no gradient about it; the closeness of the score or being in front with 3 to go is irrelevant once the game is done.

At the very least, a close loss means at least you almost won. Of any loss, the close ones are preferable. Huge losses means you were never in it, and teams that end up winning comps rarely get hammered during their regular season run.

The comp is close enough that every team gets beaten by someone lower than them, it happens every week. In other words, upsets abound. The important thing is to win more than half your matches, doesn't matter the opponent.

Losing to Raiders is no more acceptable than losing to Titans.

I was talking about the 2 points we didn't get, that we should have got

Every team loses games they should have won. That’s footy.

Not as consistently as we do, and therein lies the problem, the titans game no matter what you or anyone else say's, we should have won, and we bungled it as usual, that is why we have the longest run of missing the top 8.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Exactly mate, the titans loss was totally unacceptable, and will probably cost us a top 8 shot with our horror run home.

That is nonsense. Every loss is costly, and actually the heavy losses are more costly because of the F/A implications.

I can never understand why people think a close loss is somehow worse than a huge loss. A loss is a loss, same as a win is a win, you don't get points for effort or for near-misses. Whatever the Titans result, it's a loss, there's no gradient about it; the closeness of the score or being in front with 3 to go is irrelevant once the game is done.

At the very least, a close loss means at least you almost won. Of any loss, the close ones are preferable. Huge losses means you were never in it, and teams that end up winning comps rarely get hammered during their regular season run.

The comp is close enough that every team gets beaten by someone lower than them, it happens every week. In other words, upsets abound. The important thing is to win more than half your matches, doesn't matter the opponent.

Losing to Raiders is no more acceptable than losing to Titans.

I was talking about the 2 points we didn't get, that we should have got

Every team loses games they should have won. That’s footy.

Not as consistently as we do, and therein lies the problem, the titans game no matter what you or anyone else say's, we should have won, and we bungled it as usual, that is why we have the longest run of missing the top 8.

You don’t know that. I’m guessing you don’t follow other teams as closely as your own, and I doubt you are basing it off any kind of stat.

 

[happy_tiger]

We should get ..25 a point for every game played at Campbelltown

 

[JD Tiger]

Exactly mate, the titans loss was totally unacceptable, and will probably cost us a top 8 shot with our horror run home.

That is nonsense. Every loss is costly, and actually the heavy losses are more costly because of the F/A implications.

I can never understand why people think a close loss is somehow worse than a huge loss. A loss is a loss, same as a win is a win, you don't get points for effort or for near-misses. Whatever the Titans result, it's a loss, there's no gradient about it; the closeness of the score or being in front with 3 to go is irrelevant once the game is done.

At the very least, a close loss means at least you almost won. Of any loss, the close ones are preferable. Huge losses means you were never in it, and teams that end up winning comps rarely get hammered during their regular season run.

The comp is close enough that every team gets beaten by someone lower than them, it happens every week. In other words, upsets abound. The important thing is to win more than half your matches, doesn't matter the opponent.

Losing to Raiders is no more acceptable than losing to Titans.

I was talking about the 2 points we didn't get, that we should have got

Every team loses games they should have won. That’s footy.

Not as consistently as we do, and therein lies the problem, the titans game no matter what you or anyone else say's, we should have won, and we bungled it as usual, that is why we have the longest run of missing the top 8.

You don’t know that. I’m guessing you don’t follow other teams as closely as your own, and I doubt you are basing it off any kind of stat.

In 2013 Eels finished last, one win and one loss vs us.
In 2014 Sharks finished last, we beat them twice, Cheer!
In 2015 Knights finished last, 8 wins all year, beating us twice
In 2016 Knights finished last, only winning one game all year. That was vs us.
In 2017 Knights finished last, played us once, for a WT win.
In 2018 Eels finished last, they won 6 games that year, played us twice for one win, one loss.
In 2019 Titans finished last, played us once, for a WT win.

So us vs last throughout the last eight years (including Titans last this year), we are 6 wins from 12 games since 2013.
That's not technically us vs the team coming last at the time, but us vs the team that came last at the end of the year.

Not great, not good, and I doubt whether anyone has worse over that period.
Hopefully it turns around though.