Excerise Advice/Discussion

Idk why, but i’ve been lacking serious motivation this weekend. Regardless, I got up and did what I needed both yesterday and today.

In regards to the which is better lifestyle, workout or 20 beers, it’s whatever makes you happy imo. I can understand why people who workout feel surperior to those who don’t work out. Your whole personality transforms, you feel better, you look better etc. I try not to look others that way. I know how crippling that lifestyle can be if it’s not making you happy. If it makes you happy though, then that’s great.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088632) said:
Idk why, but i’ve been lacking serious motivation this weekend. Regardless, I got up and did what I needed both yesterday and today.

In regards to the which is better lifestyle, workout or 20 beers, it’s whatever makes you happy imo. I can understand why people who workout feel surperior to those who don’t work out. Your whole personality transforms, you feel better, you look better etc. I try not to look others that way. I know how crippling that lifestyle can be if it’s not making you happy. If it makes you happy though, then that’s great.

That's actually what I don't get GNR

Looks can be deceiving ...why should anyone feel superior because they look or feel better than someone else

You don't know someone's story .....maybe when you have almost been one of those in that situation it's easier to see

I could have got a bad case of lymphodaema after complications with knee surgery , which would mean I have one leg or even both legs that your body can't get rid of the toxins and are swollen beyond belief (even surgery can't fix it )
I got a mild case and by the end of a day at work it felt like I was dragging a shot putt around in my boot

Don't assume people that are overweight are lazy / bad eaters /

Some people just have bad luck / bad injuries

By the way I wasn't having a shot Gunners just it annoys me with some perceptions
 
@happy_tiger said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088637) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088632) said:
Idk why, but i’ve been lacking serious motivation this weekend. Regardless, I got up and did what I needed both yesterday and today.

In regards to the which is better lifestyle, workout or 20 beers, it’s whatever makes you happy imo. I can understand why people who workout feel surperior to those who don’t work out. Your whole personality transforms, you feel better, you look better etc. I try not to look others that way. I know how crippling that lifestyle can be if it’s not making you happy. If it makes you happy though, then that’s great.

That's actually what I don't get GNR

Looks can be deceiving ...why should anyone feel superior because they look or feel better than someone else

You don't know someone's story .....maybe when you have almost been one of those in that situation it's easier to see

I could have got a bad case of lymphodaema after complications with knee surgery , which would mean I have one leg or even both legs that your body can't get rid of the toxins and are swollen beyond belief (even surgery can't fix it )
I got a mild case and by the end of a day at work it felt like I was dragging a shot putt around in my boot

Don't assume people that are overweight are lazy / bad eaters /

Some people just have bad luck / bad injuries

By the way I wasn't having a shot Gunners just it annoys me with some perceptions

I know, but that’s what it does to some people.
 
Gotta be humble.

Only wankers think they're better than people for how they look, etc.
Wasn't my intention - just trying to motivate and inspire and promote a healthy lifestyle through exercise.

I really recommend the Dorian Yates JRE or valuetainment podcasts. This guy was Mr Olympia and has the most honest and realistic approach to diet, training, steroids, etc. Really insightful.

Also one must condition themself to become healthy.
Just like if you work as a construction worker ... you're probably exhausted after your first day, first week but over time you condition your body to handle the rigors of the work days.
Same as exercise, that's why if you can make it second nature and part of your routine you can succeed.
 
@Demps said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088641) said:
Gotta be humble.

Only wankers think they're better than people for how they look, etc.
Wasn't my intention - just trying to motivate and inspire and promote a healthy lifestyle through exercise.

I really recommend the Dorian Yates JRE or valuetainment podcasts. This guy was Mr Olympia and has the most honest and realistic approach to diet, training, steroids, etc. Really insightful.

Also one must condition themself to become healthy.
Just like if you work as a construction worker ... you're probably exhausted after your first day, first week but over time you condition your body to handle the rigors of the work days.
Same as exercise, that's why if you can make it second nature and part of your routine you can succeed.

Good call Demps ....the reason I bring up Lymphoedema is that approximately 1 in 5 people who have cancers removed (particularly , breast , ovarian /cervical ,testicular and melanoma ) get Lymphoedema and usually it in their limbs

There is no cure bar getting excess removed and has to be repeated as it continually comes back

Judge a person by their soul/personality ....not by their weight

If they are AH like me then give them the flick
 
@Ponyo said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088652) said:
Bro got hard when fitness was mentioned

If you're talking about me....
Lol , did say it was my type of topic.
 
@Demps said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088653) said:
@Ponyo said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088652) said:
Bro got hard when fitness was mentioned

If you're talking about me....
Lol , did say it was my type of topic.

True.
 
@Demps said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088641) said:
Gotta be humble.

Only wankers think they're better than people for how they look, etc.
Wasn't my intention - just trying to motivate and inspire and promote a healthy lifestyle through exercise.

I really recommend the Dorian Yates JRE or valuetainment podcasts. This guy was Mr Olympia and has the most honest and realistic approach to diet, training, steroids, etc. Really insightful.

Also one must condition themself to become healthy.
Just like if you work as a construction worker ... you're probably exhausted after your first day, first week but over time you condition your body to handle the rigors of the work days.
Same as exercise, that's why if you can make it second nature and part of your routine you can succeed.

Yeah and that is very true fitness training is hard work but after a while the 2nd wind kicks in

Always find the 1st 10 minutes and the last 10 minutes are the worst if you are pushing yourself

And goals are good ....try and improve slightly every training session

Tell my new staff the exact same , still trying to reach my levels I was at 24 years ago every day
 
@Ponyo said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088674) said:
Happy is on the supermodel diet
Vodka and smokes %100 for sure

If smoking didn't give you cancer and killed you it would be the perfect weight loss cure
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088632) said:
Idk why, but i’ve been lacking serious motivation this weekend. Regardless, I got up and did what I needed both yesterday and today.

In regards to the which is better lifestyle, workout or 20 beers, it’s whatever makes you happy imo. I can understand why people who workout feel surperior to those who don’t work out. Your whole personality transforms, you feel better, you look better etc. I try not to look others that way. I know how crippling that lifestyle can be if it’s not making you happy. If it makes you happy though, then that’s great.

Exercise can have an enormous impact on your mood. In fact, it is thought that exercise can be just as effective as anti-depressants in treating mild-to-moderate depression.
Not only can exercise help in treating depression, it can also prevent people from becoming depressed again. So it's important to keep up an exercise regimen after people get better.

We don't yet understand exercise and mood enough to know exactly which type of exercise is best - or how much - but what we do know is that it definitely has a positive effect.
Exercise can:
increase your energy levels
help you get a good night's sleep
distract you from your worries and get you out of a cycle of negative thoughts that can feed anxiety and depression
help you get out and be with people if you're feeling lonely; even a smile as you pass someone on the street can boost your mood
help you feel more in control, and improve your self-esteem, because you are taking an active role in your own treatment
increase your confidence as you meet challenges and reach goals, no matter how small, as well as helping you to feel good about your body
help you to avoid less helpful approaches, such as drinking alcohol or dwelling on how you feel..............

Good positive read... Read more...


https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/HealthyLiving/exercise-and-mood
 
@innsaneink said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088699) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088632) said:
Idk why, but i’ve been lacking serious motivation this weekend. Regardless, I got up and did what I needed both yesterday and today.

In regards to the which is better lifestyle, workout or 20 beers, it’s whatever makes you happy imo. I can understand why people who workout feel surperior to those who don’t work out. Your whole personality transforms, you feel better, you look better etc. I try not to look others that way. I know how crippling that lifestyle can be if it’s not making you happy. If it makes you happy though, then that’s great.

Exercise can have an enormous impact on your mood. In fact, it is thought that exercise can be just as effective as anti-depressants in treating mild-to-moderate depression.
Not only can exercise help in treating depression, it can also prevent people from becoming depressed again. So it's important to keep up an exercise regimen after people get better.

We don't yet understand exercise and mood enough to know exactly which type of exercise is best - or how much - but what we do know is that it definitely has a positive effect.
Exercise can:
increase your energy levels
help you get a good night's sleep
distract you from your worries and get you out of a cycle of negative thoughts that can feed anxiety and depression
help you get out and be with people if you're feeling lonely; even a smile as you pass someone on the street can boost your mood
help you feel more in control, and improve your self-esteem, because you are taking an active role in your own treatment
increase your confidence as you meet challenges and reach goals, no matter how small, as well as helping you to feel good about your body
help you to avoid less helpful approaches, such as drinking alcohol or dwelling on how you feel..............

Good positive read... Read more...


https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/HealthyLiving/exercise-and-mood

Good post ink

Im approaching 40, ive been a fitness fanatic for years, ive had ups and downs, blow outs and hard work outs to get back into shape but there is no greater feeling of putting in a hard workout, yes, no greater feeling.

@GNR4LIFE Ive been all over the scales for the last 20 years, from 85kg to 130kg in my late 20s when i stopped footy training. Im 6'1" and hover around 95, but can easily push up to 100 or 105kg, especially if i have a belly full of beers with the lads on Super Saturdays. At 90kg i look absolutely gaunt like i have stage 4 cancer so, my advice is dont look at numbers, they can be a great basis and a goal for what you want to achieve but dont feel like you have to be 80kg for example. It all depends on your body shape etc. I have a triangle shape so broad across the shoulders and i can luckily afford to carry a bit more weight. As i said, i can hit 100kegs but im still in shape and look fit and can retain muscle definition. However with you at 100 you may look overweight??? so dont beat yourself up about numbers mate, just aim for what you feel good at.
 
@fair-dinkum said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088842) said:
@innsaneink said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088699) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088632) said:
Idk why, but i’ve been lacking serious motivation this weekend. Regardless, I got up and did what I needed both yesterday and today.

In regards to the which is better lifestyle, workout or 20 beers, it’s whatever makes you happy imo. I can understand why people who workout feel surperior to those who don’t work out. Your whole personality transforms, you feel better, you look better etc. I try not to look others that way. I know how crippling that lifestyle can be if it’s not making you happy. If it makes you happy though, then that’s great.

Exercise can have an enormous impact on your mood. In fact, it is thought that exercise can be just as effective as anti-depressants in treating mild-to-moderate depression.
Not only can exercise help in treating depression, it can also prevent people from becoming depressed again. So it's important to keep up an exercise regimen after people get better.

We don't yet understand exercise and mood enough to know exactly which type of exercise is best - or how much - but what we do know is that it definitely has a positive effect.
Exercise can:
increase your energy levels
help you get a good night's sleep
distract you from your worries and get you out of a cycle of negative thoughts that can feed anxiety and depression
help you get out and be with people if you're feeling lonely; even a smile as you pass someone on the street can boost your mood
help you feel more in control, and improve your self-esteem, because you are taking an active role in your own treatment
increase your confidence as you meet challenges and reach goals, no matter how small, as well as helping you to feel good about your body
help you to avoid less helpful approaches, such as drinking alcohol or dwelling on how you feel..............

Good positive read... Read more...


https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/HealthyLiving/exercise-and-mood

Good post ink

Im approaching 40, ive been a fitness fanatic for years, ive had ups and downs, blow outs and hard work outs to get back into shape but there is no greater feeling of putting in a hard workout, yes, no greater feeling.

@GNR4LIFE Ive been all over the scales for the last 20 years, from 85kg to 130kg in my late 20s when i stopped footy training. Im 6'1" and hover around 95, but can easily push up to 100 or 105kg, especially if i have a belly full of beers with the lads on Super Saturdays. At 90kg i look absolutely gaunt like i have stage 4 cancer so, my advice is dont look at numbers, they can be a great basis and a goal for what you want to achieve but dont feel like you have to be 80kg for example. It all depends on your body shape etc. I have a triangle shape so broad across the shoulders and i can luckily afford to carry a bit more weight. As i said, i can hit 100kegs but im still in shape and look fit and can retain muscle definition. However with you at 100 you may look overweight??? so dont beat yourself up about numbers mate, just aim for what you feel good at.

I mentioned it in my OP. I’m 3 or 4 kgs lighter than I was 4 or 5 years ago, but I feel about 10kgs lighter. I think it’s due to muscle. I’d like to lose another 7 or 8kgs but i’m almost at the point of giving it up, cos no matter how much excersice and good eating, my weight won’t budge.
 
That doesn’t mean giving up good eating and excerise, but in regards to the scales, it’s almost pointless. I’m thinking of just concentration on how many centimetres I am. As of Friday, my waist was 104.
 
For those interested in fasting this is worth a look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14zW15bJkuU&list=LLcLdnrlP-lOY8rcSIkMn9pA&index=10&t=0s
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088845) said:
That doesn’t mean giving up good eating and excerise, but in regards to the scales, it’s almost pointless. I’m thinking of just concentration on how many centimetres I am. As of Friday, my waist was 104.

A good place to start. Your face, waistline and chest are all places to watch for change. Once you slim down to the point you're happy then start watching the scales.
 
finally after 2 weeks of no gym ( i did manage some workouts at home, but were limited due to smoke/asthma issues), i managed to convince a very reluctant family member to take me down this morning.....

couldnt finish the entire workout i had planned due to time issues, but was still good enough to work up a sweat and leave me a bit sore afterwards

got some goals in mind for the summer holidays i want to hit........

summer is a good time for hitting goals, cause u have plenty of time to go out and do some excercise such as swimming, bike riding etc etc......
 
Watch "that sugar film' - Damon Gameau
Basically regular weight usual 2400cal diet but not high in sugar ie breakfast bacon eggs avocado. Healthy during checkup. Experiment is to change to high sugar 40tsp equivalent a day from "healthy" food, but same calorie total. He thinks its going to be hard. 1st day cereals with low fat yoghurt, some fruit & glass of juice.. 20tsp! & he goes im gonna have to ration the last 20tsp. Iirc piled 8kg in 1st few weeks 12kg over the duration, red flag on his post medicals

Lots of great info here.. i was 95kg at 5'3 now 65kg, went into cycling, change diet low carb/sugar & go into periodic keto, frequent 8:16 with 2 meals generally...most breakfast stuff are just laced with sugar & vicious cycle of high insulin early to drop blood sugar levels, goes too low then hungry again within a couple of hours

What i understand is that your muscles & liver are your petrol tank for glycogen.. you have too high carbs/sugar while tank is full, insulin will push those surplus as fat for later use.. which never eventuates coz we keep the glucose coming.
Use myfitnesspal app, check & find out what you're really putting in sugar & carbs in particular.

Like most says, it has to be a lifestyle change. Still enjoy life, have desserts. but they are treats.. which you can rarely call them now as treats lol even brews got some choices.. spirits dont even have sugar.. its the mixers!

Sorry, quite a long post just trying to help
 
@innsaneink said in [Excerise Advice/Discussion](/post/1088699) said:
Exercise can have an enormous impact on your mood. In fact, it is thought that exercise can be just as effective as anti-depressants in treating mild-to-moderate depression.

Edit; warning, I may need to talk to someone again and some may want to ignore many of the first bunch of paragraphs, or all of my post.


Whilst I don't know exactly what to call it, I turned 54 last week and life circumstances have me exercising for the first time in nearly 25 years. I used to weight train regularly in between partying really hard on whatever, including a bit of alcohol, whilst also being a hands on builder with 3 to 5 direct employees and the paperwork to go with it.

Then for the next years, a few hours sleep on week nights, often with a much younger lady, though not the 20 years as per @cktiger as they would have been minors, then up and into it, all of it at times and even on site if I was on a bender.

Deciding to settle down after blowing another small fortune in a matter of months, I slowed to settle down about 15 years ago, again with a young woman who I married a couple of years later and had a child together. Sadly in 2012 my wife started suffering mental health problems, which has resulted in me only working for a bit more than 2 of the last seven years, selling up in Sydney as our funds diminished and buying up on the Central Coast, so that we had funds and I could more easily look after our son as her schizophrenia worsened.

I have made plenty of mistakes with this and at great cost to us, but I never wanted to call the Police or an Ambulance, always hoping that she would soon voluntarily seek help. As our son has grown older, he began to question her ramblings more and more, finally returning the aggressive aspects of her illness. It increasingly became the norm and sadly I became blind to the extent of the effect it was having on him. That abruptly changed when he became suicidal, climbing over a balcony at school.

Anyhow, back toward the subject. I then took him away from mum and home, staying in hotels for a week, before staying in Sydney and bringing up for school each day and taking him to see her of an afternoon and play with friends. Though there were a lot of appointments with him and an odd one for myself at the time, otherwise there were an uncomfortable six hours of the school day to fill, which I decided exercise was an appropriate filler.

Having a couple of months prior torn a meniscus in a knee that was already bone on bone, I was as unfit as ever and the heaviest of my life at 96kg and 186/7cm tall with 'aboriginal' calves, with bike riding with my son, walking and very occasional swimming having previously been my only exercise for some time, come mid June it was time to do something about it.

Wow, what a shock to the system the first few workouts were, separated by a few days of pain and stiffness. The paltry weights that I was working with had me feeling somewhat inept, even though I can still move furniture or other heavy objects, doing it with form and shape is another matter.

Going from being being 78kg and benching sets of 6 @120 and pulling cones of putty in between or putting the pin at the bottom of a large machine stack for low rows, to then be struggling at 50kg is quite humbling, even if it is many years later. Having been exercising for some six months, albeit irregular and low intensity, I am starting to see and feel results, but as I still have a terrible diet, not getting anywhere near what I could. Though I don't have many junk meals, I eat plenty, including meats, drink waaay too much Coca Cola and eat way too many sweets, chocolate, chips etc and always have done so.

Not being able to do much leg wise with a bad knee until surgery (delayed for various reasons) doesn't help, finding myself feeling a bit like @GNR4LIFE and others, being at the same or similar weight, but feel stronger and better. I am seriously considering dropping the Coke part of my diet over the coming break as another step to getting myself back, having stopped with ciggies on Boxing day 2012.

For those interested, my wife has accepted treatment since August and although the drugs take her in another direction and the relationships aren't easy, my son and I are now able to spend more time at home than not.

Anyway, enough writing as I am about to pick up some dumbbells.
 

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