Excerise Advice/Discussion

[happy_tiger]

..... and I still manage to have good looking women more than 20 years younger than me want to go out with me. I can still manage to put away more than 20 schooners in a session regularly.....

I'll have what he's having 🤣🤣🤣

Well have the anti story to this one ......took Mum out to tea while visiting her recently at her bowls club

The bar manager didn't realize I was who I was and was giving Mum the thumbs up

I don't mind being cougar bait ...but with Mum ...even us Qlders have to draw the line somewhere lol

 

[hobbo1]

..... and I still manage to have good looking women more than 20 years younger than me want to go out with me. I can still manage to put away more than 20 schooners in a session regularly.....

I'll have what he's having ???

Well have the anti story to this one ......took Mum out to tea while visiting her recently at her bowls club

The bar manager didn't realize I was who I was and was giving Mum the thumbs up

I don't mind being cougar bait ...but with Mum ...even us Qlders have to draw the line somewhere lol

Yeah ...you don’t look a day over 65 ?

 

[happy_tiger]

..... and I still manage to have good looking women more than 20 years younger than me want to go out with me. I can still manage to put away more than 20 schooners in a session regularly.....

I'll have what he's having ???

Well have the anti story to this one ......took Mum out to tea while visiting her recently at her bowls club

The bar manager didn't realize I was who I was and was giving Mum the thumbs up

I don't mind being cougar bait ...but with Mum ...even us Qlders have to draw the line somewhere lol

Yeah ...you don’t look a day over 65 ?

Mum was a spring chicken when I was born ....just turned 18

I dunno guys at times I reckon I'd prefer to do an exorcism over exercise ...

 

[Viking Warrior]

Prime off season thread, but some good advise in here. Keep up the good work guys

 

[cktiger]

..... and I still manage to have good looking women more than 20 years younger than me want to go out with me. I can still manage to put away more than 20 schooners in a session regularly.....

I'll have what he's having 🤣🤣🤣

Maybe you should ... you’re obviously lacking something.

 

[Needaname]

Do intermittent fasting (16:8 or more if you can handle it) & drink lots of black coffee to suppress hunger. Exercise while fasted (preferably body weight exercises like pull ups, muscle ups, push ups, burpees etc.) The fasted exercise is very effective at promoting growth & burning fat - it stimulates HGH production.

I’d like to know more about this. Specifically the exercise part and gains etc during the fasting period.

I am currently trailing a variation of intermittent fasting. Since I started I’ve lost 6 kgs.
On weekdays / workdays I have a black coffee and first eat when I get home from work around 6. On weekends / non work days I’m more relaxed in order to suit a bit more of a social routine.
Prior to this i was doing my best not to have sugar. Absolutely the worst drug out there. But I always had this notion that I was fit enough. I’ve always maintained a weight of 96-98 through my twenties and into my early 30’s (currently 35) but last November I started getting really frustrated with not being able to fit clothes I’ve always fit. Unfortunately as the increase in weight was extremely gradual I couldn’t pin point 1 area where I’ve increased size. Anyway I got to 104kgs.

Due to other circumstances I moved out from my home and in with a mate and it was there that I started a transition to a fitter and healthier me.
He encouraged me to run the bay with him, about 7kms and each week I was challenged by this and enjoying it, I through in some daily push ups, planks and I probably managed to get into the best shape of my life probably up until April-May this year, I was strong, a solid 94kg my food habits weren’t bad but I still couldn’t shake that excess feeling around my mid area. So I started trialing 16-8 IF window, difficult at first but it worked, but then due to a reverse in circumstances I moved back home. And me and the wife started to get settled into some old habits. I knew it and could see it happening and a week at a time I’d adjust, then for other weeks I’d say ahh whatever. As spring was approaching I wanted a boost to get back into shape. So I decided that I had what I termed a ‘Winter Write Off’ and was heading into a ‘Spring into Action’ term. Anyway, spring came and I still didn’t adjust, I was back into my state of ‘fit enough’ about 97kg. So it wasn’t until I signed up for basketball again from about a 5 year hiatus that I had a reason to change, again. I felt so unfit on the court in the first two games I played that I knew I had to do something.
So I drew a line in the sand and started IF with a window of 16:8 (basically having only lunch and dinner) any drinks outside that time are non caloric. And after about a month I got back to 94. Following that I transitioned to the weekday 1 meal a day and am now around 90kg but doing a consistent IF schedule, I feel stronger than ever, and that carriage in the mid area is almost not existent.

Sorry for long response, I felt compelled to contribute.
One thing I’ve learned is, anything good for you is hard work. If it wasn’t involving hard work it wouldn’t be rewarding.

Keep up the hard work GNR and thank you for sharing.

I don't claim or pretend to be a scientific expert on these things, but from what I have read on the topic the main benefits to fasted weight training are: a stimulation of human growth hormone production; and an increase in insulin sensitivity. Together these work to change how your body sources its fuel. Essentially they make stored fat a viable fuel source by making it much easier to break down (due to the impacts of HGH on other hormones) so that, as long as you don't push yourself too hard, your body is likely to preference stored fat over stored glycogen as fuel. If you push yourself too hard you'll just burn up your glycogen stores because, in a crisis, that is what your body will always default to.
The HGH also obviously helps muscle growth by stimulating protein production and an increase in muscle mass then leads to an increase in metabolism to sustain it.

Cheers mate.
What would you call too hard, In regards to intensity?
In addition you explained it a bit above, but is there a need to refuel with protein (supplement or whole food) after the workout?
How does it affect your fasting benefits (lower gi and HGH) If you eat immediately after the workout.
Finally if you chose not to eat until after your fasting window what impact does this have.
I.e fast till 2pm but complete a workout at 8am?

 

[innsaneink]

..... and I still manage to have good looking women more than 20 years younger than me want to go out with me. I can still manage to put away more than 20 schooners in a session regularly.....

I'll have what he's having ???

Maybe you should ... you’re obviously lacking something.

Obviously...
Please tell us more

 

[Demps]

..... and I still manage to have good looking women more than 20 years younger than me want to go out with me. I can still manage to put away more than 20 schooners in a session regularly.....

I'll have what he's having ???

Maybe you should ... you’re obviously lacking something.

Obviously...
Please tell us more

Lol don't indulge him ink, he's intoxicated.
Been a long night at the pub being the life of the party and fighting off all the younger women throwing themselves at him.

 

[mike]

@GNR4LIFE it’s a bit of a struggle and everyone is different. What works for one won’t necessarily work for someone else.

My misses is an an example. She is now a third the weight she once was and has kept it off for a number of years now. For her it was exercise and a low carb, low sugar diet. It took her 5 years but she got there. That’s determination.

Doesn’t quite work that way for me, though I haven’t had sugar for a few years, I still struggle. I’m now slowly reducing the carbs. Exercise really didn’t help that much as it just made me hungry and then I’d eat more. I now just walk as much as I can. What has really helped me is, as I am getting on in years, is the realisation that I really don’t need to eat as often as a used to. Basically two meals a day and lower the carb intake. No breakfast. Sometimes only one meal a day. Recently back from a cruise, eating only two meals a day prevented me from stacking it on. I’ve even dropped 1/2 Kg since I’ve been home. I found that I need to weigh myself everyday just to remind myself of what I need todo. I know this probably goes against all health advice but it’s what works for me.

I guess the bottom line is just keep trying different things and find what works and what doesn’t and what you enjoy and what puts you off.

 

[cktiger]

..... and I still manage to have good looking women more than 20 years younger than me want to go out with me. I can still manage to put away more than 20 schooners in a session regularly.....

I'll have what he's having ???

Maybe you should ... you’re obviously lacking something.

Obviously...
Please tell us more

Lol don't indulge him ink, he's intoxicated.
Been a long night at the pub being the life of the party and fighting off all the younger women throwing themselves at him.

It was... you should try it instead of squats.

 

[Ponyo]

To each their own, some folks are happy to go hard till their dicks fall off. No problems

 

[Demps]

To each their own, some folks are happy to go hard till their dicks fall off. No problems

Viagra is a hell of a drug for these aging alcoholics.
Need all the help they can get.

 

[Regan]

So, 18 months ago, I was pretty much at rock bottom physically. My diet was pure rubbish, without any excersing. Constantly felt lethargic, i’d be sitting at my desk at work, and have chest pains. This was probably going on for a good 3 to 4 years. I intermittently would go on health kicks, but they would only ever last a week until I’d fall back into old habits. Then I remember waking up one day in July last year, I’d just had a dream where I felt physically like crap, and something inside me snapped. It was like even in my sleep, I could not escape. I realised I was a food addict, and I needed to change. I’d not long turned 30, so i was getting older and so I needed to clean up my act.

I remember for days, maybe weeks, i didn’t put any sugar in my body. Probably was the hardest thing i’ve ever done. However I noticed a change physically, and after a week or two I worked up the courage to get on the scales. Something I hadn’t done in a couple of years. I was 111kgs. That was up from about 102 3 or 4 years earlier, which was up from about 90, 6 or 7 years before that. Once I got over over the intitial sugar withdrawal, my diet became easier. By Xmas last year I was down to 100. I started excersing to, but I noticed I’d stopped losing weight. I wasn’t gaining any, but I was plateauing, so I stopped. After Xmas I started losing more, eventually getting down to 94-95.

The last couple months I’ve really gotten inspired to start excersing again. I walk most days, and do chunks of running. I’m currently 97-99. I find i’ve been adding weight, would this be muscle? My diet is pretty steady. I treat myself, but I try to eat responsibly. I just wonder why excersing as much as I do, why the scales don’t drop.

Sorry for the long read, it’s not meant to be a brag post. I just know how bad it makes you feel to not have a great diet. If anyone is struggling, I feel like i’m proof, that if I can turn things around, anyone can.

If anyone has some tips on things I can do with my routine to keep trimming down, it would be much appreciated.

All you need to know Dr Jason Fung the absolute boss on this just watch on you tube it will change your life and most of the other gurus on you tube just copy and paste his research

 

[Regan]

Watch "BODYBUILDING 101: 5 Rules for Building Muscle (Ft. Mike Israetel)" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/Yhj1x5x4inc


And watch this good luck

 

[MountainMan]

I'm in my late fifties and having dropped a few kilos on a recent trip to Japan now weigh 83 kilograms, which is reasonably light for someone who is 180cms tall.

The Japanese diet is considered one of the healthiest in the world because they eat a lot of different food groups each day, but not big portions, and regularly eat fermented food which is good for gut health. Good diet combined with regular exercise means you see proportionately a lot less overweight Japanese people than you do here in Australia. Japanese also have a high life expectancy.

That would be my core advise - mix up your food groups, if not daily, then across the week. Try and regularly eat some fermented foods - dill pickles, kimchi, etc. I enjoy vegetarian meals two or three times a week (real vegetarian not pretend meat or fish) but wouldn't advocate a wholly vegetarian diet - the evidence for the health benefits of cutting out completely meat and seafood just isn't there.

The current emphasis on limiting carbs and sugar makes sense up to a point but I don't think you need to be excessive. Probably want to watch the sugar you consume from foods that aren't necessarily viewed as sweet - some breakfast cereals, tomato sauce, some take away foods, yoghurts, sports drinks (there are other ways to replace electrolytes after exercise).

The other thing that gets a lot of attention now is the benefits of fasting. Suggest some caution here. My daughter picked up a stomach parasite in South America which took her some time to get over. The gastroenterologist she went to advised her that if your body is used to consuming food at certain times and you suddenly alter this it can cause the production of excess stomach acid.

Finally, with your exercise also try and mix this up if you can. Aerobic and anaerobic. I go to a couple of workout classes, lift some weights (nothing to heavy these days), have one or two swims. On the weekend I try and bushwalk (I live in the Blue Mountains) or go for a light run and maybe also a cycle. However, if you are time pressed then simply going for a 40 minute to an hour walk is really good exercise.

Best of luck with it

 

[cktiger]

To each their own, some folks are happy to go hard till their dicks fall off. No problems

Viagra is a hell of a drug for these aging alcoholics.
Need all the help they can get.

Pretty sure gym showponies would be on the roids long before blokes my vintage have to resort to viagra. Need all the help they can get to oil up and flex for each other then sit down and quaff their protein shakes.

 

[innsaneink]

Haha Hugh.. He didn't even mention or reply to you
Defensive much?
Lol

 

[cktiger]

Haha Hugh.. He didn't even mention or reply to you
Defensive much?
Lol

I don’t recall me mentioning anybody ?
Who’s Hugh? Not me.
I’m not defensive but tire of young people who question If you’re soft or not a man because you don’t go posing at the gym or think you’re a hero if you take up boxing.
Good luck I suppose if your life is that boring and inconsequential and you have the time.
No offence to anybody who does it for all the right reasons including the OP.

 

[innsaneink]

Lol.. "I'm not defensive but....."

Bit like,

I'm not racist but....

 

[Demps]

Haha Hugh.. He didn't even mention or reply to you
Defensive much?
Lol

I don’t recall me mentioning anybody ?
Who’s Hugh? Not me.
I’m not defensive but tire of young people who question If you’re soft or not a man because you don’t go posing at the gym or think you’re a hero if you take up boxing.
Good luck I suppose if your life is that boring and inconsequential and you have the time.
No offence to anybody who does it for all the right reasons including the OP.

Do yourself a favour and watch Dorian Yates on any of the podcasts he's done.

Not everyone does it for show.
Some of us are locked away working on our bodies like we're working on a project car.
Not for the glory or the praise, just to be the best version of ourselves.

Its been fun man you made me laugh.
No hard feelings.

Take it easy on the liquor.