Farah and Taylor

If the side strings together too many losses I am sure the demented cretins in the media and on this site will get busy building mountains out of pimples and looking to slash the throat of a scapegoat or two…..as usual
 
Potter made the mistake of coming in all guns blazing and trying to assert his authority in his first year. He said he wasn't there to be liked by the players..lol..Well you got that right.
Plus you need to know a little something about what you are talking about or pretty soon people will have no respect for you.

I can see Taylor taking a different approach or I hope he does. His football knowledge should be superior to Potter's and I doubt his going to come in and wield the big stick like Potter did.

If Taylor can get Robbie believing in his "process" then the whole team will follow.
 
@Irvine said:
He said he wasn't there to be liked by the players..lol.

And whats wrong with that? He's not there to be their mate, he's there to be the boss.

@Irvine said:
If Taylor can get Robbie believing in his "process" then the whole team will follow.

This sounds like it needs to be all about making Robbie happy. If Robbie or anyone else doesn't like it they should be offered the courtesy of having the door held open for him as they walk out of it. Do you think Cleary went to Penrith with the attitude of trying to get Luke Lewis believing in his ''process''. I don't think so, he walked in, told everyone how it was and if they didn't like it they could leave, and thats exactly what Lewis did. I'm sick to death of hearing how people need to kowtow to Farah.
 
Potter had the right approach.

He also created a structure this year which worked briefly until injuries set in.

That is something that will benefit Taylor immensely.

The biggest issue Taylor will have is having so on-field experience around the halves to help them along. As much as I was criticial of Anasta, the stats show very overwhelmingly that Brooks' game suffered horrendously when he didn't have Anasta alongside him in the halves.

Taylor was a careful, almost meticulous halfback. never known for being classy or brilliant, but was always very good at picking his opportunities at the right time, which he did regularly.

It's a skill that requires patience, which is something two exciting halves will struggle to learn the most. With the passing game of Moses and the short kicking game of Brooks, a little bit of patience will make them immesurably better.

I hope Taylor can teach them that above anything else.
 
every coach has his style. it's up to JT if he wants to coach by being their mate or being their boss.

almost all of bennet's players think of him as a mate so as to they can confide in him.

even though these are so called professional players, they still need to be kept motivated and inspired to perform at their best and good coaches do that.

in contrast, bellamy coaches by being their boss and a dictator in general.

JT will bring his own way of coaching and the team has to adapt to that style.
 
@tig_prmz said:
almost all of bennet's players think of him as a mate so as to they can confide in him..

Father figure is the term thats more appropriate with Bennett, and thats different to classifying someone as your mate. With a father figure, it still shows that he's above them and is their boss. With a mate, it gives off the perception that the coach and players are equals.
 
GNR and tig-prmz,agree with you on Robbie,he is the team capt and all players including him have to adapt to JTs game plans and overall training and playing tactics and if anybody doesn't like it they can move on :frowning: :sign: :sign:
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@tig_prmz said:
almost all of bennet's players think of him as a mate so as to they can confide in him..

Father figure is the term thats more appropriate with Bennett, and thats different to classifying someone as your mate. With a father figure, it still shows that he's above them and is their boss. With a mate, it gives off the perception that the coach and players are equals.

hmm maybe now coz of the massive age gap but i remember listening a documentary on him in 2000 and people like alfie langer and others would think of him as his mate.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Irvine said:
He said he wasn't there to be liked by the players..lol.

And whats wrong with that? He's not there to be their mate, he's there to be the boss.

@Irvine said:
If Taylor can get Robbie believing in his "process" then the whole team will follow.

This sounds like it needs to be all about making Robbie happy. If Robbie or anyone else doesn't like it they should be offered the courtesy of having the door held open for him as they walk out of it. Do you think Cleary went to Penrith with the attitude of trying to get Luke Lewis believing in his ''process''. I don't think so, he walked in, told everyone how it was and if they didn't like it they could leave, and thats exactly what Lewis did. I'm sick to death of hearing how people need to kowtow to Farah.

As I said before, good management isn't about posturing or making 'my way or the highway' pronouncements any more than it is about pandering to the people who report to you. It's all well and good acting all tough guy about it from the comfort of your desk but the reality is a good coach should be able to develop working relationships with all his key personnel which aren't based on going in on day one with a bunch of prejudices and a set agenda.

Think about it this way: why do you think Farah was - apparently - unhappy with the coaching setup? Have you ever seen anything from the man which suggests he's looking for an easy life on or off the field? Do you think it's possible that, maybe, the guy is a perfectionist who isn't happy with a second-rate setup?

I know: you think it should be just like the army, where the coach gives orders and all the players blindly follow them. But a good management culture can be flexible to the input of stakeholders all the way through the organisation, and benefit from it, rather than simply alienating anyone who takes a different view.
 
Threads like this Farah Vs Taylor etc. only serve to give certain people the opportunity to vilify those in elevated positions in our club. How about looking at the possibility that the whole club and its supporters will benefit from these changes. Things may well be on the up and up but if it doesn't work out that way then we may have to take a different tack but at least give the management, board and players the chance to make it work before exploring all the possible negatives.

Having been a Magpie/ Wests Tigers supporter for over 50 years, I have learned to be patient and when everything comes together (2005), what a buzz it is!
 
@madunit said:
I love how people assume Farah is the embodiement of everything wrong at the club and why Potter was not given the opportunity to be re-employed by the club.

He wasn't sacked. His contract ended.

Just remember that.

The board decided and it has been stated as such in the news, that they made the decision not to have Potter as coach next year.

Guessing about the finer intricacies of what may have happened outside of the facts, is nothing more than fallacies people concoct to justify their unjustifiable opinion of someone.

Too many opinions and too much offseason remaining.
 
@Irvine said:
His football knowledge should be superior to Potter's and I doubt his going to come in and wield the big stick like Potter did.

Why should it be superior? Potter did win the Dally M twice after all, 7 years apart. He also played in 4 grand finals, winning 2 with the Doggies.

Taylor is no slouch but on those stats he won Rothmans once and played the 2001 GF loss to Newcastle.
 
@jirskyr said:
@Irvine said:
His football knowledge should be superior to Potter's and I doubt his going to come in and wield the big stick like Potter did.

Why should it be superior? Potter did win the Dally M twice after all, 7 years apart. He also played in 4 grand finals, winning 2 with the Doggies.

Taylor is no slouch but on those stats he won Rothmans once and played the 2001 GF loss to Newcastle.

Irrelevant.

The best box erector in a box erecting factory doesn't make the best manager of a box erecting factory.
 
@happy tiger said:
**Well I'm just concerned that Mayer will target Farah through Taylor**

I reckon that they might strip the captaincy of him to be honest , just got this feeling

You've run out of tin foil again haven't you Happy… :wink:
 
Question :if you took captaincy away from Robbie Farah would he cry and run away. Or would you take it like a man and digging.

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@Mccarry said:
@jirskyr said:
@Irvine said:
His football knowledge should be superior to Potter's and I doubt his going to come in and wield the big stick like Potter did.

Why should it be superior? Potter did win the Dally M twice after all, 7 years apart. He also played in 4 grand finals, winning 2 with the Doggies.

Taylor is no slouch but on those stats he won Rothmans once and played the 2001 GF loss to Newcastle.

Irrelevant.

The best box erector in a box erecting factory doesn't make the best manager of a box erecting factory.

Spoken like a true box erector. :smiley: :smiley:
 
For me, this is the most important relationship for WT to prosper.

Different approaches to management, sure they can be very varied, just as how I approach my employees or contractors as individuals. But make no mistake, there is only a place for one rooster in a hen house.

Our season fell apart when our supposed team leader was caught with his pants around his ankles after a long period of stretching the limits of the elastic within said pants he feels he deserves to wear.

With all the evidence out there, including comments from our last two coaches, to still believe otherwise seems fanciful at best. But hey, we are all entitled to an opinion, just like this one.
 
@cktiger said:
Don't think Farah and Taylor will be getting on the gloves anytime soon, Snapper.
Can't understand why can't people wait and see how we go without preempting either a disaster or a mutiny.

The past doesnt read a good formguide does it.But lets give this new dawn a fresh chance.
 
Hey snapper
What's with you and the Farah bashing
He's the skipper of our club he should be backed
You are a nuffie and a Neville nobody who wouldnt know the true intricacies of the club we support

Back our skipper back our club back our coach
Or climb back under the rock you came out from !!!

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