Farah to play half against Rabbits

[fergiefurr]

Whats the bet humble will be 17, come on to replace iosefa and plays hooker. So sheens will have a hooker at 7 and w half at 9

Sheenius

 

[dermo]

**I already made this post in the coaching plan thread, but its probably more relevant here:**

I might be singular here in saying this,

But Farah in the halves isn't that bad.

Case for it is - he practically played halfback AND 5/8th during origin 3 anyway, as both Pearce and Carney went missing and almost steered the ship home.

I could stomach Farah at halfback with Marshall at 5/8th as they both know each other extremely well.

His kicking game is very good. His cut out pass is gold, he takes on the line and is strong enough to bust through at times, he understands our flow and structure - really guys, whats not to like?

Miller has a great kicking game in the under 20's - but as much as I think this kid has potential, everytime he seems to kick a ball in FG he shanks it and ends up dribbling it in behind the line… maybe the FG ball has a different shape to the NYC Ball...

This would be a much different pairing to the disaster which was Farah in the halves circa 2006-2008 due to the years of play they have hadd together, and lets face it, their combinations together with Moltzen are at times breathtaking.

Iosefa is more than adequate at dummy half - he's strong, and isn't just a passenger - if he spies an opening or a blindside play, he'll go for it.

The other thing is at worst case, Farah could inject himself in at dummy half practically any time he likes to keep Souffs on their toes as well - It's not as if Iosefa would totally DOMINATE the dummy-half role.

Flame away if you like guys, but I think it could work - I just wouldn't do it forever though - he's a world class hooker through and through.

Finally someone talking some sense

 

[dermo]

I will throw my hand in with the minority and say it is the right move.

Iosefa has been going great for mine so its just keeping a form player in the side. He could have played half I guess; might still do.

you need at least one good half or one good hooker who can take control and steer the team around.
sheens has done what he said he doesn't wanna do: weaken one position for another.
farah MAY turn out to be a revelation at 7, that's not the point, the point is, we have 6 more games to go and and he wants farah at 7, iosefa at hooker for the rest of the season… it's a joke. this is not the time to "experiment"

Its hardly an experiment seeing as Robbie and Benji know each others games fair better than say, Benji knows Millers. And furthermore im sure Sheens wouldve tried several different halves combos throughout the week at training and he has decided this is the best option. None of us were there to see how the other combinations worked, so who are we to say he is wrong

 

[hellman]

Underdog is right in that it could work. My problem with it like others is that is it the right option for the rest of the season.

I think Farah performs better at 9 than 7\. I think he is a better player when he does a little less when we have the ball.

 

[Black_Orange_White]

Farah at half is desperation. I trust Miller more than Iosefa.
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[Diver]

**I already made this post in the coaching plan thread, but its probably more relevant here:**

I might be singular here in saying this,

But Farah in the halves isn't that bad.

Case for it is - he practically played halfback AND 5/8th during origin 3 anyway, as both Pearce and Carney went missing and almost steered the ship home.

I could stomach Farah at halfback with Marshall at 5/8th as they both know each other extremely well.

His kicking game is very good. His cut out pass is gold, he takes on the line and is strong enough to bust through at times, he understands our flow and structure - really guys, whats not to like?

Miller has a great kicking game in the under 20's - but as much as I think this kid has potential, everytime he seems to kick a ball in FG he shanks it and ends up dribbling it in behind the line… maybe the FG ball has a different shape to the NYC Ball...

This would be a much different pairing to the disaster which was Farah in the halves circa 2006-2008 due to the years of play they have hadd together, and lets face it, their combinations together with Moltzen are at times breathtaking.

Iosefa is more than adequate at dummy half - he's strong, and isn't just a passenger - if he spies an opening or a blindside play, he'll go for it.

The other thing is at worst case, Farah could inject himself in at dummy half practically any time he likes to keep Souffs on their toes as well - It's not as if Iosefa would totally DOMINATE the dummy-half role.

Flame away if you like guys, but I think it could work - I just wouldn't do it forever though - he's a world class hooker through and through.

Finally someone talking some sense

x 3!

 

[Citizen_Tiger]

Tim Sheens moves Robbie Farah to half to partner five-eighth Benji Marshall
By Wayne Cousins

Saturday 28 July 2012 11:12 AM
Tim Sheens moves Robbie Farah to half to partner five-eighth Benji Marshall

Wests Tigers Head Coach Tim Sheens has moved hooker Robbie Farah to half-back for tomorrow’s crucial clash against South Sydney at ANZ Stadium.

Sheens revealed at the team’s final training session this morning that Benji Marshall will return to his regular five-eighth position to allow Farah to play half with Masada Iosefa starting at hooker.

Full-back Tim Moltzen remains in doubt after suffering a hamstring strain in the pre-game warm up in Townsville last Monday night. More will be known following the training session as to how Moltzen pulls up. The forward pack remains intact.

Sheens was pleased with the combination of Farah and Marshall in the halves and Iosefa at hooker in the second half in the loss to the Cowboys.

Despite losing centre Chris Lawrence, five-eighth Curtis Sironen and forward Ben Murdoch-Masila through injury from the Cowboys match, Sheens remains confident his players can rise to the challenge against the third placed Rabbitohs, saying the side can take strength from the heart breaking golden point loss in round 5.

“We had no Robbie Farah. Liam Fulton played 9 and Tommy Humble played 7\. We were down on troops and we lost Gareth Ellis,’’ Sheens said.

“Although they beat us with a last minute field goal in extra time, I think everybody knows on the day we led them by 12 points with 7 minutes to go, we should of won that game.

“We have got a lot of confidence from that. They had a full strength side in that day.

“I’m comfortable that our side is a better side. I know they are too, they are playing better football. They have got a couple of issues so we will be working hard to exploit them.”

Sheens says he is looking for better execution tomorrow after having enough opportunities last week to win the game despite the heavy injury toll.

“In the second half we blew an opportunity in the very first set. The ball bounced wrong,'' he said.

“We had a couple of strips one on one that really hurt us and we had a couple of shifts where the ball didn’t find the player.

“It’s always about execution in a game of football, in any sport.

“We are just working hard on those little things, keeping it simple with a new halves combination although Robbie and Benji have played plenty of football together in that configuration.

“Executing and defending, doing the hard things, kick and chase and defend hard, they are the little things you work on.”

Yes Tim they did have a 'full strength' side 'that day', but the sad fact is that they have progressed remarkably since then, while we frankly have not. In fact we are managing to do the simple things very ineffectively, have a popgun attack and are not utilizing the skill sets of players in their appropriate positions.

 

[Swordy]

**I already made this post in the coaching plan thread, but its probably more relevant here:**

I might be singular here in saying this,

But Farah in the halves isn't that bad.

Case for it is - he practically played halfback AND 5/8th during origin 3 anyway, as both Pearce and Carney went missing and almost steered the ship home.

I could stomach Farah at halfback with Marshall at 5/8th as they both know each other extremely well.

His kicking game is very good. His cut out pass is gold, he takes on the line and is strong enough to bust through at times, he understands our flow and structure - really guys, whats not to like?

Miller has a great kicking game in the under 20's - but as much as I think this kid has potential, everytime he seems to kick a ball in FG he shanks it and ends up dribbling it in behind the line… maybe the FG ball has a different shape to the NYC Ball...

This would be a much different pairing to the disaster which was Farah in the halves circa 2006-2008 due to the years of play they have hadd together, and lets face it, their combinations together with Moltzen are at times breathtaking.

Iosefa is more than adequate at dummy half - he's strong, and isn't just a passenger - if he spies an opening or a blindside play, he'll go for it.

The other thing is at worst case, Farah could inject himself in at dummy half practically any time he likes to keep Souffs on their toes as well - It's not as if Iosefa would totally DOMINATE the dummy-half role.

Flame away if you like guys, but I think it could work - I just wouldn't do it forever though - he's a world class hooker through and through.

Finally someone talking some sense

x 3!

X4\. I'm glad the board have Sheens as coach, and not some of the crack ups in this forum. Some ideas are ….I don't know.....very out there.
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[Stripes96]

Sheens does not see Farah as the half replacement for the rest of the year. Like he said, the halves combination depends on Moltzen's fitness. I think we'll see Moltzen in the 7 and Farah at dummy half come next week.
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[boonboon]

**I already made this post in the coaching plan thread, but its probably more relevant here:**

I might be singular here in saying this,

But Farah in the halves isn't that bad.

Case for it is - he practically played halfback AND 5/8th during origin 3 anyway, as both Pearce and Carney went missing and almost steered the ship home.

I could stomach Farah at halfback with Marshall at 5/8th as they both know each other extremely well.

His kicking game is very good. His cut out pass is gold, he takes on the line and is strong enough to bust through at times, he understands our flow and structure - really guys, whats not to like?

Miller has a great kicking game in the under 20's - but as much as I think this kid has potential, everytime he seems to kick a ball in FG he shanks it and ends up dribbling it in behind the line… maybe the FG ball has a different shape to the NYC Ball...

This would be a much different pairing to the disaster which was Farah in the halves circa 2006-2008 due to the years of play they have hadd together, and lets face it, their combinations together with Moltzen are at times breathtaking.

Iosefa is more than adequate at dummy half - he's strong, and isn't just a passenger - if he spies an opening or a blindside play, he'll go for it.

The other thing is at worst case, Farah could inject himself in at dummy half practically any time he likes to keep Souffs on their toes as well - It's not as if Iosefa would totally DOMINATE the dummy-half role.

Flame away if you like guys, but I think it could work - I just wouldn't do it forever though - he's a world class hooker through and through.

Finally someone talking some sense

x 3!

X4\. I'm glad the board have Sheens as coach, and not some of the crack ups in this forum. Some ideas are ….I don't know.....very out there.
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X5 good decision by sheens -iosefa has been great in his limited first grade games so the three of them are our best option

 

[innsaneink]

Its dominating the ruck which I see as an important factor of this game UD. We know Robbie 'will' slot in and slot out throughout the game, but to keep the pressure of our ruck speed it needs 100% focus. The other concern I have with rotating dummy halves, is both are vastly different and the forwards will require to adjust their runs depending on who is in there…

Doesn't sound like much, but as fatigue sets in, timing a run can sometimes be a bigger challenge than it looks without having to worry about who is feeding the ball.

Best post on the issue Ive seen all week. Goes against what I said earlier to an extent, makes a lot of sense….we shall see what eventuates th' sarvo

 

[badger]

Perhaps Sheens is worried about their half tearing a fill-in half apart. Maybe hes looking toward Farah to shut down their halves in defence and attack out of dummy half no sure it seems a bit dumb taking Farah out of hooker though.

 

[Fraze23]

I honestly think Farah will only play at half til Moltzen has returned from injury. Ryan will stay at fullback, Farah will go back to 9 and Moltz should wear 6 or 7.
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[WelcometotheJungle]

I honestly think Farah will only play at half til Moltzen has returned from injury. Ryan will stay at fullback, Farah will go back to 9 and Moltz should wear 6 or 7.
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I really hope that's the plan!
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[hybrid_tiger]

Glad to see this worked a treat…again.

Maybe Sheens can try it again next week. It's only failed 14 times but might work a 15th time...

 

[1_4_chicken_chips]

and then he will be a sheenius.

 

[Cysquatch]

Wow. Said it before the game and again now. Not blaming Robbie he's a champion 9\. And it wasn't our biggest problem today but it highlights we need a change of some sort…..

So dumb. Are we seeing something different from the wests tigers coaching staff? Why do these selections, trends and shortcomings KEEP occurring. Like I said this selection really perplexes me. So dissapointed
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[Flippedy]

**"Sheens was pleased with the combination of Farah and Marshall in the halves and Iosefa at hooker in the second half in the loss to the Cowboys"**

This says it all really - Sheens is pleased with mediocrity. How many points did we score in the second half against the Cowboys? Oh, that's right - NONE!

Well that was another 40 minutes of football in which the Marshall/Farah combo in the halves, that Tim was so pleased with last week, produced ZERO on the scoreboard - but I'm glad he's happy with it :unamused:

 

[851]

Sheens needs to be sacked,as I said before the game you don't move your best players,but Sheens has done it twice this season with Benji and Robbie.
Farah at 7 has never worked,he totally blunted our best atacking option,when he had 3 other options at 7.
This guy is not a super coach,he is a way past it wanna be,sack this fool now Humphrys.