FITZHENRY YOUR THOUGHTS

[Yossarian]

Ah the old "You disagree with me so you know crap about football" line… Would I pick his as starting centre? Of course not. Starting hooker? Nope. Do I think he can come up and plug a hole for almost an entire game if someone gets injured? Yeah I do. Would I pick him on the bench? Probably not - if I had to choose a back I'd go for Brown.

Someone who can come up and plug a hole for almost an entire game if someone gets injured is a utility.

Daniel Fitzhenry is NOT a utility.

If the idea of having a utility on the bench is a reasonable one, you pick a utility, not a mediocre winger. So Fitzhenry doesn't fit the bill.

So who would you pick instead? You obviously don't rate DF so if we pick a utility back who would you have in the 17?

 

[Yossarian]

Hybrid,some people are happy with mediocrity,Sheens,Simmons,CT and Yossarian,but what can you do,but just laugh,anyone with any knowledge of the game(just ask any supporter from any other team) will tell you,he is a winger,and nothing else.
Morris is more of a utility than Fitzy,and he got a belted for 3 seasons here,in fact if I had to pick between Morris and Fitzy for the 14 spot,JMo would get my vote,that is how high I rate Fitzy

Another "anyone who disagrees with me knows stuff all about the game" post. If you bothered to read my posts you'd see I'm not saying Fitzy should be picked at all. All I've said is that the idea of having a utility on the bench is a reasonable one and if you are going to have one, Fitzy fits the bill.

I've never suggested picking DF in the run on team, even as a winger. At least not in 2010.

Yossarian,

The point is that no one can understand how you could bill Fitzy as a utility let alone the best utility. Being equally crap in all positions does not make you a utility. Whether that is opinion or fact is not the point. The point is that most judges think Fitzy is rubbish and I tend agree.

No one can understand? Most judges? Who are these people who you seem to be able to speak on behalf of? Have you done some market research? Why this "everyone agrees with me so you're wrong" crap? Just stick with what you think or cite some people who actually say the things you reckon everyone agrees on.

And who is the best utility at the club in you and the great masses opinion??

 

[851]

Taumata,Lazarus to name just 2 could do the job,hell Pritchard and Davis can cover as well as Fitzy,Moltzen and Fulton are better utilities than all of them,so our side doesn't really need a back on the bench,let alone an ordinary one.

 

[softlaw]

some people passionately believe that he is everything good and wonderful in the world.
others passionately believe that he is a complete myth.

There is absolutely no chance of one side ever converting the other.

War and death to those that disagree with my opinion is the only solution/ salvation. Fire, brimstone, crusades.

Fitzhenry [is/isn;t] the messiah (he's just a very naughty boy) - discuss.

 

[REHAB]

now ive herd everything…. your dead set off ya choppers u r!

 

[alex]

Some people are still living in the past, others are taking the p*ss.

Fitzhenry MUST be doing something right at training. Pritchard was coming into the mix at the end of last year as he was 18th man for the last 2 rounds, so he is on Sheens' radar, albeit a weak signal.

I'm on the side of he's a myth, but I don't want to pass full judgement til I see him play a full game … Well, maybe not a full game, maybe just a half, so I can get a better guide to his form.

Surely it would make better sense to have someone like Pritchard be on the bench instead of Fitzy (I'd rather 4 forwards though) so he experiences the first grade preparation/game day happenings.

 

[REHAB]

CT that's a load of crap and u no it. What ur saying has nothing to do with fitzy utility value he was only there because the uncertainty of lotis fitness, and if you try deny that your as dumb as you look. Every position fitzy has played bar his wing position has been poor, hence his uk club looking for a fulltime hooker. With a full fit loti and TNT fitzy has no place at our club, like I said ild rather look to the future and not the past.

Oh then that explains why Fitzhenry played hooker during the Foundation Cup, Mackay trial, was listed on the wing for the Sharks trial, and came on the field the same time Lote was STILL out on the field last Monday to play 2nd receiver and replaced a forward…
Only person looking dumb is you..

Yes, and what a great job fitzy has done at hooker, what a fantastic job he does at 2nd receiver, and he has the size to replace a foward…... looking dumb mate you have no idea at all, absolute no idea at all. U related to mr sheens at all? Your just happy you can get your FWO banner out again. Pffft

 

[Geo]

Wow just Wow…...Another Fitzy thread........

I think his record speaks for itself,,,

120 First Grade games 43 tries at an amazing strike rate if a try every 3 games,,,load up next week he's due...

Try in a grand final, World Club Challenge and International 7's....

Now he ranks up there with the best utilities in the game.....Kurt Gidley....

And Yes he's a very naughty boy.....

 

[hybrid_tiger]

Ah the old "You disagree with me so you know crap about football" line… Would I pick his as starting centre? Of course not. Starting hooker? Nope. Do I think he can come up and plug a hole for almost an entire game if someone gets injured? Yeah I do. Would I pick him on the bench? Probably not - if I had to choose a back I'd go for Brown.

Someone who can come up and plug a hole for almost an entire game if someone gets injured is a utility.

Daniel Fitzhenry is NOT a utility.

If the idea of having a utility on the bench is a reasonable one, you pick a utility, not a mediocre winger. So Fitzhenry doesn't fit the bill.

So who would you pick instead? You obviously don't rate DF so if we pick a utility back who would you have in the 17?

I would pick a UTILITY instead, not a winger. That's what you just don't get, Fitzhenry isn't a utility.

Lazarus (fullback, five-eighth, halfback)
Taumata (fullback, five-eighth, halfback)

We also have Fulton and Moltzen in the #17 already who can shift and cover other positions in the backline.

The point is, once again, that you think Fitzhenry is a utility when he isn't.

 

[senexx]

The likes of Wing, Gidley and a few others have been used as utilities and I would not consider them as such.
It does not mean because I think they are not suitable utility players that they are not.

 

[ron_burgandy]

ive never seen taumata play fullback

fulton can cover BR centre 5/8th
Ellis can cover centre
flanagan can cover BR centre 5/8th

so there really is no need for a utility on the bench at all

 

[hybrid_tiger]

The likes of Wing, Gidley and a few others have been used as utilities and I would not consider them as such.
It does not mean because I think they are not suitable utility players that they are not.

Wing is a true example of a utility, as he can play hooker, half and five-eighth and play them all quite well. Has also played as a ball playing lock as well, he is a very intelligent ball player.

Kurt Gidley is a fullback and nothing else. He is a shit hooker and a very very average five eighth or halfback. IMO Gidley is not that great a player anyhow, and is overhyped by the idiots on Channel 9 and the simpletons at the Telegraph. But that is a matter of opinion.

 

[bonstonker]

ive never seen taumata play fullback

fulton can cover BR centre 5/8th
Ellis can cover centre
flanagan can cover BR centre 5/8th

so there really is no need for a utility on the bench at all

why on earth would you move fulton or flanno when you could simply move moltzen to the halves.
do you think they are better there do you.we have the players in our backs who could slot back at fullback.
if pritchard is as good as everyone says,he could come in at wing or centre couldn't he.

why move ellis?

some may even argue that this backline is better than the one selected to start.

now say we get hammered in the forwards and we need a back to cover 30mins in the forwards.is this impossible?
could pritchard do this and not cost us the game?
i've never seen him play,so i wouldn't mind knowing what people think.

 

[ron_burgandy]

ive never seen taumata play fullback

fulton can cover BR centre 5/8th
Ellis can cover centre
flanagan can cover BR centre 5/8th

so there really is no need for a utility on the bench at all

why on earth would you move fulton or flanno when you could simply move moltzen to the halves.
do you think they are better there do you.we have the players in our backs who could slot back at fullback.
if pritchard is as good as everyone says,he could come in at wing or centre couldn't he.

why move ellis?

some may even argue that this backline is better than the one selected to start.

now say we get hammered in the forwards and we need a back to cover 30mins in the forwards.is this impossible?
could pritchard do this and not cost us the game?
i've never seen him play,so i wouldn't mind knowing what people think.

you totally missed the point, i dont want to carry a utility i want 4 forwards on the bench, with ellis fulton and flanagan there if an injury did strike the outside backs or a half they could fill in for the remainder of the game competently, having fitzy brown pritchard or any other outside back on the bench is a waste when we have 3 players in our team who could cover a centre position if one of our halves go down or outside backs go down.

its just dumb to have one of them on the bench for a "incase" moment and giving them 5 token minutes at the end of the game is dumb aswell

 

[REHAB]

will there be room to carry a back on the bench when payten is back? when he and tank comes back where will fitzy fit into the scale of things then?

 

[Guest]

will there be room to carry a back on the bench when payten is back? when he and tank comes back where will fitzy fit into the scale of things then?

Payten is due back next week. Not sure whether he'll start in State Cup or not. He hasn't played a trial this year so match fitness is non-existant and due to his calf injury, he hasn't been doing any running of late. If he is in FG it will cause a re-shuffle. When Tuiaki is fit I'd say Fitzy will drop back to State Cup and bide his time until injury strikes.

 

[bonstonker]

will there be room to carry a back on the bench when payten is back? when he and tank comes back where will fitzy fit into the scale of things then?

we have seen through sheens career that he likes to blood players from the bench.
and there will be times that we have games with and without a back on the bench.

there are still alot of questions if we ever get our full squad injury free.
what happens with ryan if tnt and lote are on the wing?
if lote is fullback then lui is probably out.

nothing can be answered until we see more than one game.

 

[REHAB]

Thank god Beau is only out for one week.

 

[TIGER_TILL_I_DIE]

Great job today ditzy u had a blinder for the roosters u carved up. Can not wait for TNT to be back.

 

[RatedRKO]

Should not be there next week or for the rest of the season.