Folau signs with Catalans Dragons

[GNR4LIFE]

Seriously though, if 90% of people didn’t care. why isn’t he playing NRL?

I didn't say 90% of people agree with him, I'm just saying the fans are tired of the nonsense from both ends and just as I ignore him, I also ignore the outrage on behalf of LGBTQIABCDEFG people.

Most people who are offended don't believe in God or heaven and hell anyway, so why do they even care what he says?...the whole thing is dumb.

It's like saying Santa didn't like what you did so you'll be getting a lump of coal. Who cares!? I don't believe in Santa anyway.

My only advice to LGBTQIZXFAD's is to live your life and sin away! you'll be fine with or without Folau's blessing...

You’re splitting hairs. Doesn’t matter if they agreed or didn’t care. If 90% of people didn’t care he’d be playing in the NRL. You only have to look at the amount of debate it generates anytime his name is mentioned. Are you saying the ratio of debates is 90% people who don’t care about what says and 10% that are outraged? That’s pretty lopsided for a topic that causes so much argument.

Let me know when your plane lands in the real world and I'll take you out for a beer.

I feel like if you had a worthwhile reply, you’d go with that, countering what I’m saying. Always a sign you know you’ve lost the argument when you turn to jokes to distract.

It's hard to argue a point when someone is purposely misinterpreting your point. We know you've got skin in the gay pride camp...as I said, be as proud as you like about your sexual preferences...I don't care and 90% of people don't either.

I'm talking about fans...you're talking about NRL administrators.

Administrators try to protect against any negative press and it's only a very vocal minority that try to sabotage people on topics like this. Unfortunately, the administrators react to these people.

In the real world, people ignore Folau and can't understand how things get taken this far.

That's all....I don't think what I'm saying is overly controversial.

You’re only saying that cos it’s your opinion and you assume the majority think the way you do. You’ve got no evidence to back it up. You’re also being very condescending towards gays and lesbians in this thread, Does it mean you’re homphobic? Not necessarily, but it’s curious nevertheless.

Here we go...throw the homophobic accusations at me....how tiresome

Enjoy your day winner :+1:

Lol never accused you. I actually left the door open to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Grubby move as far as I'm concerned...I've repeatedly said I don't care about people and their private sex life and that's what you came up with?

But I can do that too....Looking at your username, one might suggest you're a racist, homophobe and all round bigot and that you should distance yourself from Guns n' Roses (GNR) given the lyrics to this song https://g.co/kgs/Wo5R3j.

I'd look at yourself before finger wagging at others.


Haha wow that’s clutching that is

Just doing what you did you me...

Anyway...shouldn't you be on the Guns n' Roses Facebook page renouncing your "4 Life" support for them given your strongly held views?

Pfft...only when it suits...you've lost all credibility


I don’t even know what to say. Wow lol. Yes they did write a song with pretty offensive terms. And? Maybe ask my opinion on that song before desperately throwing it in my face. I haven’t said anything remotely disparaging towards that community, unlike you.

Yet you support a band that is incredibly disparaging towards them? 4 Life no less!

If you are going to get stuck into Folau, you need to get stuck into Guns n' Roses and rub them out of the music industry..your agenda needs to be consistent...not just when it suits you to grandstand your supposedly progressive views.

If you are happy to separate Guns n' Roses views from their music, you need to be happy to separate Folau's comments from sport..it's all I'm saying.

If you're going to stand for something, stand for it 100%...don't cherry pick your heroes out of the firing line. Go after them too. Stop buying their music. Boycott them. Just don't sit there and question me about being homophobic.

So tell me...why is it ok for Guns n' Roses to have your support given their racist, xenophobic and homophobic lyrics, but it's not ok for Folau to have your support, when what he said is minuscule in comparison?


GNR weren’t dropped from their record label. It was Geffin’s prerogative to keep them, just like it was the Dragons prerogative to sign him. No one has said Folau should be rubbed out, just that he should not be surprised if clubs don’t want the drama that comes along with his signing. If Guns were dropped, some other label would have signed them, the way one club decided to sign Israel.

I actually agree with that. It *is* a clubs prerogative to sign him. Thankfully, they have the common sense to separate the comments from the sport. The man is not a criminal.

However, people HAVE said he should be rubbed out and therein lies the hypocrisy.

You have on many occasions panned Folau for these comments, yet when someone points to your own backyard, you fob it off by saying that everyone has the right to sign whoever they want....that's not the issue here.

Your views on not supporting Folau because of his comments should extend to your music. Not sure why Guns n' Roses get a free pass in your book?

Calm down brah.

Axel is like 50 years old.
Gotta give the old rocker a pass.

Izzy should know better.

I'm calm brah

We dont really need to bring up everyone who's said something hateful...

The past is the past.



I don't disagree

Clearly you do. If there are people saying he should be rubbed out, I’m not one of them. I’m saying he should deal with the consequences of his actions.

 

[Demps]

Seriously though, if 90% of people didn’t care. why isn’t he playing NRL?

I didn't say 90% of people agree with him, I'm just saying the fans are tired of the nonsense from both ends and just as I ignore him, I also ignore the outrage on behalf of LGBTQIABCDEFG people.

Most people who are offended don't believe in God or heaven and hell anyway, so why do they even care what he says?...the whole thing is dumb.

It's like saying Santa didn't like what you did so you'll be getting a lump of coal. Who cares!? I don't believe in Santa anyway.

My only advice to LGBTQIZXFAD's is to live your life and sin away! you'll be fine with or without Folau's blessing...

You’re splitting hairs. Doesn’t matter if they agreed or didn’t care. If 90% of people didn’t care he’d be playing in the NRL. You only have to look at the amount of debate it generates anytime his name is mentioned. Are you saying the ratio of debates is 90% people who don’t care about what says and 10% that are outraged? That’s pretty lopsided for a topic that causes so much argument.

Let me know when your plane lands in the real world and I'll take you out for a beer.

I feel like if you had a worthwhile reply, you’d go with that, countering what I’m saying. Always a sign you know you’ve lost the argument when you turn to jokes to distract.

It's hard to argue a point when someone is purposely misinterpreting your point. We know you've got skin in the gay pride camp...as I said, be as proud as you like about your sexual preferences...I don't care and 90% of people don't either.

I'm talking about fans...you're talking about NRL administrators.

Administrators try to protect against any negative press and it's only a very vocal minority that try to sabotage people on topics like this. Unfortunately, the administrators react to these people.

In the real world, people ignore Folau and can't understand how things get taken this far.

That's all....I don't think what I'm saying is overly controversial.

You’re only saying that cos it’s your opinion and you assume the majority think the way you do. You’ve got no evidence to back it up. You’re also being very condescending towards gays and lesbians in this thread, Does it mean you’re homphobic? Not necessarily, but it’s curious nevertheless.

Here we go...throw the homophobic accusations at me....how tiresome

Enjoy your day winner :+1:

Lol never accused you. I actually left the door open to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Grubby move as far as I'm concerned...I've repeatedly said I don't care about people and their private sex life and that's what you came up with?

But I can do that too....Looking at your username, one might suggest you're a racist, homophobe and all round bigot and that you should distance yourself from Guns n' Roses (GNR) given the lyrics to this song https://g.co/kgs/Wo5R3j.

I'd look at yourself before finger wagging at others.


Haha wow that’s clutching that is

Just doing what you did you me...

Anyway...shouldn't you be on the Guns n' Roses Facebook page renouncing your "4 Life" support for them given your strongly held views?

Pfft...only when it suits...you've lost all credibility


I don’t even know what to say. Wow lol. Yes they did write a song with pretty offensive terms. And? Maybe ask my opinion on that song before desperately throwing it in my face. I haven’t said anything remotely disparaging towards that community, unlike you.

Yet you support a band that is incredibly disparaging towards them? 4 Life no less!

If you are going to get stuck into Folau, you need to get stuck into Guns n' Roses and rub them out of the music industry..your agenda needs to be consistent...not just when it suits you to grandstand your supposedly progressive views.

If you are happy to separate Guns n' Roses views from their music, you need to be happy to separate Folau's comments from sport..it's all I'm saying.

If you're going to stand for something, stand for it 100%...don't cherry pick your heroes out of the firing line. Go after them too. Stop buying their music. Boycott them. Just don't sit there and question me about being homophobic.

So tell me...why is it ok for Guns n' Roses to have your support given their racist, xenophobic and homophobic lyrics, but it's not ok for Folau to have your support, when what he said is minuscule in comparison?


GNR weren’t dropped from their record label. It was Geffin’s prerogative to keep them, just like it was the Dragons prerogative to sign him. No one has said Folau should be rubbed out, just that he should not be surprised if clubs don’t want the drama that comes along with his signing. If Guns were dropped, some other label would have signed them, the way one club decided to sign Israel.

I actually agree with that. It *is* a clubs prerogative to sign him. Thankfully, they have the common sense to separate the comments from the sport. The man is not a criminal.

However, people HAVE said he should be rubbed out and therein lies the hypocrisy.

You have on many occasions panned Folau for these comments, yet when someone points to your own backyard, you fob it off by saying that everyone has the right to sign whoever they want....that's not the issue here.

Your views on not supporting Folau because of his comments should extend to your music. Not sure why Guns n' Roses get a free pass in your book?

Calm down brah.

Axel is like 50 years old.
Gotta give the old rocker a pass.

Izzy should know better.

I'm calm brah

We dont really need to bring up everyone who's said something hateful...

The past is the past.



I don't disagree


Clearly you do. If there are people saying he should be rubbed out, I’m not one of them. I’m saying he should deal with the consequences of his actions.

Wolves don't concern themselves with the opinion of sheep ?

 

[weststigers]

Seriously though, if 90% of people didn’t care. why isn’t he playing NRL?

I didn't say 90% of people agree with him, I'm just saying the fans are tired of the nonsense from both ends and just as I ignore him, I also ignore the outrage on behalf of LGBTQIABCDEFG people.

Most people who are offended don't believe in God or heaven and hell anyway, so why do they even care what he says?...the whole thing is dumb.

It's like saying Santa didn't like what you did so you'll be getting a lump of coal. Who cares!? I don't believe in Santa anyway.

My only advice to LGBTQIZXFAD's is to live your life and sin away! you'll be fine with or without Folau's blessing...

You’re splitting hairs. Doesn’t matter if they agreed or didn’t care. If 90% of people didn’t care he’d be playing in the NRL. You only have to look at the amount of debate it generates anytime his name is mentioned. Are you saying the ratio of debates is 90% people who don’t care about what says and 10% that are outraged? That’s pretty lopsided for a topic that causes so much argument.

Let me know when your plane lands in the real world and I'll take you out for a beer.

I feel like if you had a worthwhile reply, you’d go with that, countering what I’m saying. Always a sign you know you’ve lost the argument when you turn to jokes to distract.

It's hard to argue a point when someone is purposely misinterpreting your point. We know you've got skin in the gay pride camp...as I said, be as proud as you like about your sexual preferences...I don't care and 90% of people don't either.

I'm talking about fans...you're talking about NRL administrators.

Administrators try to protect against any negative press and it's only a very vocal minority that try to sabotage people on topics like this. Unfortunately, the administrators react to these people.

In the real world, people ignore Folau and can't understand how things get taken this far.

That's all....I don't think what I'm saying is overly controversial.

You’re only saying that cos it’s your opinion and you assume the majority think the way you do. You’ve got no evidence to back it up. You’re also being very condescending towards gays and lesbians in this thread, Does it mean you’re homphobic? Not necessarily, but it’s curious nevertheless.

Here we go...throw the homophobic accusations at me....how tiresome

Enjoy your day winner :+1:

Lol never accused you. I actually left the door open to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Grubby move as far as I'm concerned...I've repeatedly said I don't care about people and their private sex life and that's what you came up with?

But I can do that too....Looking at your username, one might suggest you're a racist, homophobe and all round bigot and that you should distance yourself from Guns n' Roses (GNR) given the lyrics to this song https://g.co/kgs/Wo5R3j.

I'd look at yourself before finger wagging at others.


Haha wow that’s clutching that is

Just doing what you did you me...

Anyway...shouldn't you be on the Guns n' Roses Facebook page renouncing your "4 Life" support for them given your strongly held views?

Pfft...only when it suits...you've lost all credibility


I don’t even know what to say. Wow lol. Yes they did write a song with pretty offensive terms. And? Maybe ask my opinion on that song before desperately throwing it in my face. I haven’t said anything remotely disparaging towards that community, unlike you.

Yet you support a band that is incredibly disparaging towards them? 4 Life no less!

If you are going to get stuck into Folau, you need to get stuck into Guns n' Roses and rub them out of the music industry..your agenda needs to be consistent...not just when it suits you to grandstand your supposedly progressive views.

If you are happy to separate Guns n' Roses views from their music, you need to be happy to separate Folau's comments from sport..it's all I'm saying.

If you're going to stand for something, stand for it 100%...don't cherry pick your heroes out of the firing line. Go after them too. Stop buying their music. Boycott them. Just don't sit there and question me about being homophobic.

So tell me...why is it ok for Guns n' Roses to have your support given their racist, xenophobic and homophobic lyrics, but it's not ok for Folau to have your support, when what he said is minuscule in comparison?


GNR weren’t dropped from their record label. It was Geffin’s prerogative to keep them, just like it was the Dragons prerogative to sign him. No one has said Folau should be rubbed out, just that he should not be surprised if clubs don’t want the drama that comes along with his signing. If Guns were dropped, some other label would have signed them, the way one club decided to sign Israel.

I actually agree with that. It *is* a clubs prerogative to sign him. Thankfully, they have the common sense to separate the comments from the sport. The man is not a criminal.

However, people HAVE said he should be rubbed out and therein lies the hypocrisy.

You have on many occasions panned Folau for these comments, yet when someone points to your own backyard, you fob it off by saying that everyone has the right to sign whoever they want....that's not the issue here.

Your views on not supporting Folau because of his comments should extend to your music. Not sure why Guns n' Roses get a free pass in your book?

Calm down brah.

Axel is like 50 years old.
Gotta give the old rocker a pass.

Izzy should know better.

I'm calm brah

We dont really need to bring up everyone who's said something hateful...

The past is the past.



I don't disagree


Clearly you do. If there are people saying he should be rubbed out, I’m not one of them. I’m saying he should deal with the consequences of his actions.

No I don't and I don't disagree with you either...it's just funny that some people throwing the homophobe card at him aren't very consistent in their views.

 

[Curaeus]

Not someone I admire but there's no denying the guy can still play. He should do great in the ESL. No idea how strong his new club Catalans are right now. They weren't much good a few years ago.

 

[HabboTiger]

Not someone I admire but there's no denying the guy can still play. He should do great in the ESL. No idea how strong his new club Catalans are right now. They weren't much good a few years ago.

Also have Maloney

Folau could get Man of Steel. That would be a spectacle

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Seriously though, if 90% of people didn’t care. why isn’t he playing NRL?

I didn't say 90% of people agree with him, I'm just saying the fans are tired of the nonsense from both ends and just as I ignore him, I also ignore the outrage on behalf of LGBTQIABCDEFG people.

Most people who are offended don't believe in God or heaven and hell anyway, so why do they even care what he says?...the whole thing is dumb.

It's like saying Santa didn't like what you did so you'll be getting a lump of coal. Who cares!? I don't believe in Santa anyway.

My only advice to LGBTQIZXFAD's is to live your life and sin away! you'll be fine with or without Folau's blessing...

You’re splitting hairs. Doesn’t matter if they agreed or didn’t care. If 90% of people didn’t care he’d be playing in the NRL. You only have to look at the amount of debate it generates anytime his name is mentioned. Are you saying the ratio of debates is 90% people who don’t care about what says and 10% that are outraged? That’s pretty lopsided for a topic that causes so much argument.

Let me know when your plane lands in the real world and I'll take you out for a beer.

I feel like if you had a worthwhile reply, you’d go with that, countering what I’m saying. Always a sign you know you’ve lost the argument when you turn to jokes to distract.

It's hard to argue a point when someone is purposely misinterpreting your point. We know you've got skin in the gay pride camp...as I said, be as proud as you like about your sexual preferences...I don't care and 90% of people don't either.

I'm talking about fans...you're talking about NRL administrators.

Administrators try to protect against any negative press and it's only a very vocal minority that try to sabotage people on topics like this. Unfortunately, the administrators react to these people.

In the real world, people ignore Folau and can't understand how things get taken this far.

That's all....I don't think what I'm saying is overly controversial.

You’re only saying that cos it’s your opinion and you assume the majority think the way you do. You’ve got no evidence to back it up. You’re also being very condescending towards gays and lesbians in this thread, Does it mean you’re homphobic? Not necessarily, but it’s curious nevertheless.

Here we go...throw the homophobic accusations at me....how tiresome

Enjoy your day winner :+1:

Lol never accused you. I actually left the door open to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Grubby move as far as I'm concerned...I've repeatedly said I don't care about people and their private sex life and that's what you came up with?

But I can do that too....Looking at your username, one might suggest you're a racist, homophobe and all round bigot and that you should distance yourself from Guns n' Roses (GNR) given the lyrics to this song https://g.co/kgs/Wo5R3j.

I'd look at yourself before finger wagging at others.


Haha wow that’s clutching that is

Just doing what you did you me...

Anyway...shouldn't you be on the Guns n' Roses Facebook page renouncing your "4 Life" support for them given your strongly held views?

Pfft...only when it suits...you've lost all credibility


I don’t even know what to say. Wow lol. Yes they did write a song with pretty offensive terms. And? Maybe ask my opinion on that song before desperately throwing it in my face. I haven’t said anything remotely disparaging towards that community, unlike you.

Yet you support a band that is incredibly disparaging towards them? 4 Life no less!

If you are going to get stuck into Folau, you need to get stuck into Guns n' Roses and rub them out of the music industry..your agenda needs to be consistent...not just when it suits you to grandstand your supposedly progressive views.

If you are happy to separate Guns n' Roses views from their music, you need to be happy to separate Folau's comments from sport..it's all I'm saying.

If you're going to stand for something, stand for it 100%...don't cherry pick your heroes out of the firing line. Go after them too. Stop buying their music. Boycott them. Just don't sit there and question me about being homophobic.

So tell me...why is it ok for Guns n' Roses to have your support given their racist, xenophobic and homophobic lyrics, but it's not ok for Folau to have your support, when what he said is minuscule in comparison?


GNR weren’t dropped from their record label. It was Geffin’s prerogative to keep them, just like it was the Dragons prerogative to sign him. No one has said Folau should be rubbed out, just that he should not be surprised if clubs don’t want the drama that comes along with his signing. If Guns were dropped, some other label would have signed them, the way one club decided to sign Israel.

I actually agree with that. It *is* a clubs prerogative to sign him. Thankfully, they have the common sense to separate the comments from the sport. The man is not a criminal.

However, people HAVE said he should be rubbed out and therein lies the hypocrisy.

You have on many occasions panned Folau for these comments, yet when someone points to your own backyard, you fob it off by saying that everyone has the right to sign whoever they want....that's not the issue here.

Your views on not supporting Folau because of his comments should extend to your music. Not sure why Guns n' Roses get a free pass in your book?

Calm down brah.

Axel is like 50 years old.
Gotta give the old rocker a pass.

Izzy should know better.

I'm calm brah

We dont really need to bring up everyone who's said something hateful...

The past is the past.



I don't disagree


Clearly you do. If there are people saying he should be rubbed out, I’m not one of them. I’m saying he should deal with the consequences of his actions.

No I don't and I don't disagree with you either...it's just funny that some people throwing the homophobe card at him aren't very consistent in their views.

Honestly, I don’t know dude. The rationale is so ridiculous. Your implying I’m a racist and homophobic because my favourite band used derogative terms in a song once. I’m not even offended, because I know you don’t actually believe what you are saying. You’re just using it as a get square.

 

[weststigers]

Seriously though, if 90% of people didn’t care. why isn’t he playing NRL?

I didn't say 90% of people agree with him, I'm just saying the fans are tired of the nonsense from both ends and just as I ignore him, I also ignore the outrage on behalf of LGBTQIABCDEFG people.

Most people who are offended don't believe in God or heaven and hell anyway, so why do they even care what he says?...the whole thing is dumb.

It's like saying Santa didn't like what you did so you'll be getting a lump of coal. Who cares!? I don't believe in Santa anyway.

My only advice to LGBTQIZXFAD's is to live your life and sin away! you'll be fine with or without Folau's blessing...

You’re splitting hairs. Doesn’t matter if they agreed or didn’t care. If 90% of people didn’t care he’d be playing in the NRL. You only have to look at the amount of debate it generates anytime his name is mentioned. Are you saying the ratio of debates is 90% people who don’t care about what says and 10% that are outraged? That’s pretty lopsided for a topic that causes so much argument.

Let me know when your plane lands in the real world and I'll take you out for a beer.

I feel like if you had a worthwhile reply, you’d go with that, countering what I’m saying. Always a sign you know you’ve lost the argument when you turn to jokes to distract.

It's hard to argue a point when someone is purposely misinterpreting your point. We know you've got skin in the gay pride camp...as I said, be as proud as you like about your sexual preferences...I don't care and 90% of people don't either.

I'm talking about fans...you're talking about NRL administrators.

Administrators try to protect against any negative press and it's only a very vocal minority that try to sabotage people on topics like this. Unfortunately, the administrators react to these people.

In the real world, people ignore Folau and can't understand how things get taken this far.

That's all....I don't think what I'm saying is overly controversial.

You’re only saying that cos it’s your opinion and you assume the majority think the way you do. You’ve got no evidence to back it up. You’re also being very condescending towards gays and lesbians in this thread, Does it mean you’re homphobic? Not necessarily, but it’s curious nevertheless.

Here we go...throw the homophobic accusations at me....how tiresome

Enjoy your day winner :+1:

Lol never accused you. I actually left the door open to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Grubby move as far as I'm concerned...I've repeatedly said I don't care about people and their private sex life and that's what you came up with?

But I can do that too....Looking at your username, one might suggest you're a racist, homophobe and all round bigot and that you should distance yourself from Guns n' Roses (GNR) given the lyrics to this song https://g.co/kgs/Wo5R3j.

I'd look at yourself before finger wagging at others.


Haha wow that’s clutching that is

Just doing what you did you me...

Anyway...shouldn't you be on the Guns n' Roses Facebook page renouncing your "4 Life" support for them given your strongly held views?

Pfft...only when it suits...you've lost all credibility


I don’t even know what to say. Wow lol. Yes they did write a song with pretty offensive terms. And? Maybe ask my opinion on that song before desperately throwing it in my face. I haven’t said anything remotely disparaging towards that community, unlike you.

Yet you support a band that is incredibly disparaging towards them? 4 Life no less!

If you are going to get stuck into Folau, you need to get stuck into Guns n' Roses and rub them out of the music industry..your agenda needs to be consistent...not just when it suits you to grandstand your supposedly progressive views.

If you are happy to separate Guns n' Roses views from their music, you need to be happy to separate Folau's comments from sport..it's all I'm saying.

If you're going to stand for something, stand for it 100%...don't cherry pick your heroes out of the firing line. Go after them too. Stop buying their music. Boycott them. Just don't sit there and question me about being homophobic.

So tell me...why is it ok for Guns n' Roses to have your support given their racist, xenophobic and homophobic lyrics, but it's not ok for Folau to have your support, when what he said is minuscule in comparison?


GNR weren’t dropped from their record label. It was Geffin’s prerogative to keep them, just like it was the Dragons prerogative to sign him. No one has said Folau should be rubbed out, just that he should not be surprised if clubs don’t want the drama that comes along with his signing. If Guns were dropped, some other label would have signed them, the way one club decided to sign Israel.

I actually agree with that. It *is* a clubs prerogative to sign him. Thankfully, they have the common sense to separate the comments from the sport. The man is not a criminal.

However, people HAVE said he should be rubbed out and therein lies the hypocrisy.

You have on many occasions panned Folau for these comments, yet when someone points to your own backyard, you fob it off by saying that everyone has the right to sign whoever they want....that's not the issue here.

Your views on not supporting Folau because of his comments should extend to your music. Not sure why Guns n' Roses get a free pass in your book?

Calm down brah.

Axel is like 50 years old.
Gotta give the old rocker a pass.

Izzy should know better.

I'm calm brah

We dont really need to bring up everyone who's said something hateful...

The past is the past.



I don't disagree


Clearly you do. If there are people saying he should be rubbed out, I’m not one of them. I’m saying he should deal with the consequences of his actions.

No I don't and I don't disagree with you either...it's just funny that some people throwing the homophobe card at him aren't very consistent in their views.


Honestly, I don’t know dude. The rationale is so ridiculous. Your implying I’m a racist and homophobic because my favourite band used derogative terms in a song once. I’m not even offended, because I know you don’t actually believe what you are saying. You’re just using it as a get square.

Honestly, I don't know dude....your rationale and understanding of what's just gone on here is so ridiculous.

You've implied I might be homophobic in this very thread...I was just showing how easy it was to dig up anything and land it on someone as homophobic.

I was pointing out your own ridiculousness...

 

[weststigers]

Not someone I admire but there's no denying the guy can still play. He should do great in the ESL. No idea how strong his new club Catalans are right now. They weren't much good a few years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalans_Dragons

Just had a look at their team...it's not bad and the old boy Josh Drinkwater is in the halves.

Folau will make a massive difference on top of Maloney.

I think they're in for a big year.

 

[Cairnstigers]

Everyone has opinions about how we should all live our lives
As a high profile sports person you have to be prepared for a backlash if you voice you opinions on social media
There was absolutely no need for Folau to post what he did
Wether you agree with his comments or not I believe it is wrong to post these comments
What was he hoping to achieve anyway


I can see a squirrel grip coming Folau's way

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Seriously though, if 90% of people didn’t care. why isn’t he playing NRL?

I didn't say 90% of people agree with him, I'm just saying the fans are tired of the nonsense from both ends and just as I ignore him, I also ignore the outrage on behalf of LGBTQIABCDEFG people.

Most people who are offended don't believe in God or heaven and hell anyway, so why do they even care what he says?...the whole thing is dumb.

It's like saying Santa didn't like what you did so you'll be getting a lump of coal. Who cares!? I don't believe in Santa anyway.

My only advice to LGBTQIZXFAD's is to live your life and sin away! you'll be fine with or without Folau's blessing...

You’re splitting hairs. Doesn’t matter if they agreed or didn’t care. If 90% of people didn’t care he’d be playing in the NRL. You only have to look at the amount of debate it generates anytime his name is mentioned. Are you saying the ratio of debates is 90% people who don’t care about what says and 10% that are outraged? That’s pretty lopsided for a topic that causes so much argument.

Let me know when your plane lands in the real world and I'll take you out for a beer.

I feel like if you had a worthwhile reply, you’d go with that, countering what I’m saying. Always a sign you know you’ve lost the argument when you turn to jokes to distract.

It's hard to argue a point when someone is purposely misinterpreting your point. We know you've got skin in the gay pride camp...as I said, be as proud as you like about your sexual preferences...I don't care and 90% of people don't either.

I'm talking about fans...you're talking about NRL administrators.

Administrators try to protect against any negative press and it's only a very vocal minority that try to sabotage people on topics like this. Unfortunately, the administrators react to these people.

In the real world, people ignore Folau and can't understand how things get taken this far.

That's all....I don't think what I'm saying is overly controversial.

You’re only saying that cos it’s your opinion and you assume the majority think the way you do. You’ve got no evidence to back it up. You’re also being very condescending towards gays and lesbians in this thread, Does it mean you’re homphobic? Not necessarily, but it’s curious nevertheless.

Here we go...throw the homophobic accusations at me....how tiresome

Enjoy your day winner :+1:

Lol never accused you. I actually left the door open to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Grubby move as far as I'm concerned...I've repeatedly said I don't care about people and their private sex life and that's what you came up with?

But I can do that too....Looking at your username, one might suggest you're a racist, homophobe and all round bigot and that you should distance yourself from Guns n' Roses (GNR) given the lyrics to this song https://g.co/kgs/Wo5R3j.

I'd look at yourself before finger wagging at others.


Haha wow that’s clutching that is

Just doing what you did you me...

Anyway...shouldn't you be on the Guns n' Roses Facebook page renouncing your "4 Life" support for them given your strongly held views?

Pfft...only when it suits...you've lost all credibility


I don’t even know what to say. Wow lol. Yes they did write a song with pretty offensive terms. And? Maybe ask my opinion on that song before desperately throwing it in my face. I haven’t said anything remotely disparaging towards that community, unlike you.

Yet you support a band that is incredibly disparaging towards them? 4 Life no less!

If you are going to get stuck into Folau, you need to get stuck into Guns n' Roses and rub them out of the music industry..your agenda needs to be consistent...not just when it suits you to grandstand your supposedly progressive views.

If you are happy to separate Guns n' Roses views from their music, you need to be happy to separate Folau's comments from sport..it's all I'm saying.

If you're going to stand for something, stand for it 100%...don't cherry pick your heroes out of the firing line. Go after them too. Stop buying their music. Boycott them. Just don't sit there and question me about being homophobic.

So tell me...why is it ok for Guns n' Roses to have your support given their racist, xenophobic and homophobic lyrics, but it's not ok for Folau to have your support, when what he said is minuscule in comparison?


GNR weren’t dropped from their record label. It was Geffin’s prerogative to keep them, just like it was the Dragons prerogative to sign him. No one has said Folau should be rubbed out, just that he should not be surprised if clubs don’t want the drama that comes along with his signing. If Guns were dropped, some other label would have signed them, the way one club decided to sign Israel.

I actually agree with that. It *is* a clubs prerogative to sign him. Thankfully, they have the common sense to separate the comments from the sport. The man is not a criminal.

However, people HAVE said he should be rubbed out and therein lies the hypocrisy.

You have on many occasions panned Folau for these comments, yet when someone points to your own backyard, you fob it off by saying that everyone has the right to sign whoever they want....that's not the issue here.

Your views on not supporting Folau because of his comments should extend to your music. Not sure why Guns n' Roses get a free pass in your book?

Calm down brah.

Axel is like 50 years old.
Gotta give the old rocker a pass.

Izzy should know better.

I'm calm brah

We dont really need to bring up everyone who's said something hateful...

The past is the past.



I don't disagree


Clearly you do. If there are people saying he should be rubbed out, I’m not one of them. I’m saying he should deal with the consequences of his actions.

No I don't and I don't disagree with you either...it's just funny that some people throwing the homophobe card at him aren't very consistent in their views.


Honestly, I don’t know dude. The rationale is so ridiculous. Your implying I’m a racist and homophobic because my favourite band used derogative terms in a song once. I’m not even offended, because I know you don’t actually believe what you are saying. You’re just using it as a get square.

Honestly, I don't know dude....your rationale and understanding of what's just gone on here is so ridiculous.

You've implied I might be homophobic in this very thread...I was just showing how easy it was to dig up anything and land it on someone as homophobic.

I was pointing out your own ridiculousness...

The point I made was you making fun of the LGBT initialism. And I made it clear that it didn’t necessarily make you homophobic. But given your attitude, it was curious that you’d make fun of the term . Plus a couple other things that were said by you. I haven’t said anything that can be remotely construed as homophobic. Your best argument was to dig up a 30 year old song by my favourite band and say “hey you must be homophobic too supporting that band” .

 

[weststigers]

Seriously though, if 90% of people didn’t care. why isn’t he playing NRL?

I didn't say 90% of people agree with him, I'm just saying the fans are tired of the nonsense from both ends and just as I ignore him, I also ignore the outrage on behalf of LGBTQIABCDEFG people.

Most people who are offended don't believe in God or heaven and hell anyway, so why do they even care what he says?...the whole thing is dumb.

It's like saying Santa didn't like what you did so you'll be getting a lump of coal. Who cares!? I don't believe in Santa anyway.

My only advice to LGBTQIZXFAD's is to live your life and sin away! you'll be fine with or without Folau's blessing...

You’re splitting hairs. Doesn’t matter if they agreed or didn’t care. If 90% of people didn’t care he’d be playing in the NRL. You only have to look at the amount of debate it generates anytime his name is mentioned. Are you saying the ratio of debates is 90% people who don’t care about what says and 10% that are outraged? That’s pretty lopsided for a topic that causes so much argument.

Let me know when your plane lands in the real world and I'll take you out for a beer.

I feel like if you had a worthwhile reply, you’d go with that, countering what I’m saying. Always a sign you know you’ve lost the argument when you turn to jokes to distract.

It's hard to argue a point when someone is purposely misinterpreting your point. We know you've got skin in the gay pride camp...as I said, be as proud as you like about your sexual preferences...I don't care and 90% of people don't either.

I'm talking about fans...you're talking about NRL administrators.

Administrators try to protect against any negative press and it's only a very vocal minority that try to sabotage people on topics like this. Unfortunately, the administrators react to these people.

In the real world, people ignore Folau and can't understand how things get taken this far.

That's all....I don't think what I'm saying is overly controversial.

You’re only saying that cos it’s your opinion and you assume the majority think the way you do. You’ve got no evidence to back it up. You’re also being very condescending towards gays and lesbians in this thread, Does it mean you’re homphobic? Not necessarily, but it’s curious nevertheless.

Here we go...throw the homophobic accusations at me....how tiresome

Enjoy your day winner :+1:

Lol never accused you. I actually left the door open to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Grubby move as far as I'm concerned...I've repeatedly said I don't care about people and their private sex life and that's what you came up with?

But I can do that too....Looking at your username, one might suggest you're a racist, homophobe and all round bigot and that you should distance yourself from Guns n' Roses (GNR) given the lyrics to this song https://g.co/kgs/Wo5R3j.

I'd look at yourself before finger wagging at others.


Haha wow that’s clutching that is

Just doing what you did you me...

Anyway...shouldn't you be on the Guns n' Roses Facebook page renouncing your "4 Life" support for them given your strongly held views?

Pfft...only when it suits...you've lost all credibility


I don’t even know what to say. Wow lol. Yes they did write a song with pretty offensive terms. And? Maybe ask my opinion on that song before desperately throwing it in my face. I haven’t said anything remotely disparaging towards that community, unlike you.

Yet you support a band that is incredibly disparaging towards them? 4 Life no less!

If you are going to get stuck into Folau, you need to get stuck into Guns n' Roses and rub them out of the music industry..your agenda needs to be consistent...not just when it suits you to grandstand your supposedly progressive views.

If you are happy to separate Guns n' Roses views from their music, you need to be happy to separate Folau's comments from sport..it's all I'm saying.

If you're going to stand for something, stand for it 100%...don't cherry pick your heroes out of the firing line. Go after them too. Stop buying their music. Boycott them. Just don't sit there and question me about being homophobic.

So tell me...why is it ok for Guns n' Roses to have your support given their racist, xenophobic and homophobic lyrics, but it's not ok for Folau to have your support, when what he said is minuscule in comparison?


GNR weren’t dropped from their record label. It was Geffin’s prerogative to keep them, just like it was the Dragons prerogative to sign him. No one has said Folau should be rubbed out, just that he should not be surprised if clubs don’t want the drama that comes along with his signing. If Guns were dropped, some other label would have signed them, the way one club decided to sign Israel.

I actually agree with that. It *is* a clubs prerogative to sign him. Thankfully, they have the common sense to separate the comments from the sport. The man is not a criminal.

However, people HAVE said he should be rubbed out and therein lies the hypocrisy.

You have on many occasions panned Folau for these comments, yet when someone points to your own backyard, you fob it off by saying that everyone has the right to sign whoever they want....that's not the issue here.

Your views on not supporting Folau because of his comments should extend to your music. Not sure why Guns n' Roses get a free pass in your book?

Calm down brah.

Axel is like 50 years old.
Gotta give the old rocker a pass.

Izzy should know better.

I'm calm brah

We dont really need to bring up everyone who's said something hateful...

The past is the past.



I don't disagree


Clearly you do. If there are people saying he should be rubbed out, I’m not one of them. I’m saying he should deal with the consequences of his actions.

No I don't and I don't disagree with you either...it's just funny that some people throwing the homophobe card at him aren't very consistent in their views.


Honestly, I don’t know dude. The rationale is so ridiculous. Your implying I’m a racist and homophobic because my favourite band used derogative terms in a song once. I’m not even offended, because I know you don’t actually believe what you are saying. You’re just using it as a get square.

Honestly, I don't know dude....your rationale and understanding of what's just gone on here is so ridiculous.

You've implied I might be homophobic in this very thread...I was just showing how easy it was to dig up anything and land it on someone as homophobic.

I was pointing out your own ridiculousness...

The point I made was you making fun of the LGBT initialism. And I made it clear that it didn’t necessarily make you homophobic. But given your attitude, it was curious that you’d make fun of the term . Plus a couple other things that were said by you. I haven’t said anything that can be remotely construed as homophobic. Your best argument was to dig up a 30 year old song by my favourite band and say “hey you must be homophobic too supporting that band” .

Give it a rest mate

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Moving on Gents... Just agree to disagree thanks.

 

[jirskyr]

Got to love Izzy Folau, just one mention of his next move and you get 100 pages of argument heading towards toxicity.

And some people wonder why codes are eager to distance themselves from the guy, religious beliefs or otherwise.

 

[cktiger]

Everyone has opinions about how we should all live our lives
As a high profile sports person you have to be prepared for a backlash if you voice you opinions on social media
There was absolutely no need for Folau to post what he did
Wether you agree with his comments or not I believe it is wrong to post these comments
What was he hoping to achieve anyway


I can see a squirrel grip coming Folau's way

Different people find different things offensive.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with giving people your personal opinion on a topic as long as it’s your personal opinion and you’re not pretending to talk for someone else.
Folau never said he was speaking on behalf of anyone except himself, and the Bible.
Never said he was talking on behalf of players, sponsors or Rugby Union... in fact never said anything hateful.
References were made that all sinners (whether you believe in his interpretation of sinners or not) should repent before they die to enter Heaven.
Not once has he ever mentioned he hated any of these sinners, although it has been twisted that way by most commentators who believe that’s what ‘modern society’ wants to hear.
Plus it sells papers.
His ‘celebrity’ detractors certainly don’t have any problem putting their opposing views and personal attacks in the media.
But wait... they seem to think they talk for everybody.
If you don’t agree you’re obviously a red neck racist homophobe or a Bible bashing moron.
All hateful assumptions you would think... no redemption on offer?
Funny world we live in when if you state your religious beliefs (and his are way different to mine) you are made a pariah, while others in the same world are lauded for their criminality.

 

[Masterton]

Everyone has opinions about how we should all live our lives
As a high profile sports person you have to be prepared for a backlash if you voice you opinions on social media
There was absolutely no need for Folau to post what he did
Wether you agree with his comments or not I believe it is wrong to post these comments
What was he hoping to achieve anyway


I can see a squirrel grip coming Folau's way

Different people find different things offensive.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with giving people your personal opinion on a topic as long as it’s your personal opinion and you’re not pretending to talk for someone else.
Folau never said he was speaking on behalf of anyone except himself, and the Bible.
Never said he was talking on behalf of players, sponsors or Rugby Union... in fact never said anything hateful.
References were made that all sinners (whether you believe in his interpretation of sinners or not) should repent before they die to enter Heaven.
Not once has he ever mentioned he hated any of these sinners, although it has been twisted that way by most commentators who believe that’s what ‘modern society’ wants to hear.
Plus it sells papers.
His ‘celebrity’ detractors certainly don’t have any problem putting their opposing views and personal attacks in the media.
But wait... they seem to think they talk for everybody.
If you don’t agree you’re obviously a red neck racist homophobe or a Bible bashing moron.
All hateful assumptions you would think... no redemption on offer?
Funny world we live in when if you state your religious beliefs (and his are way different to mine) you are made a pariah, while others in the same world are lauded for their criminality.

Meh. I personally don't care what Folau says, as much as I think he's moronic. BUT, if he makes public comments that he knows will enrage his employer's sponsors, expect to cop the consequences. If I said anybody would burn in hell, I'd be sacked within 12 hours, regardless of the religious rationale.

Freedom of speech means he can say what he wants. It also means people can say he's a homophobe. Which he is.

 

[cktiger]

Everyone has opinions about how we should all live our lives
As a high profile sports person you have to be prepared for a backlash if you voice you opinions on social media
There was absolutely no need for Folau to post what he did
Wether you agree with his comments or not I believe it is wrong to post these comments
What was he hoping to achieve anyway


I can see a squirrel grip coming Folau's way

Different people find different things offensive.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with giving people your personal opinion on a topic as long as it’s your personal opinion and you’re not pretending to talk for someone else.
Folau never said he was speaking on behalf of anyone except himself, and the Bible.
Never said he was talking on behalf of players, sponsors or Rugby Union... in fact never said anything hateful.
References were made that all sinners (whether you believe in his interpretation of sinners or not) should repent before they die to enter Heaven.
Not once has he ever mentioned he hated any of these sinners, although it has been twisted that way by most commentators who believe that’s what ‘modern society’ wants to hear.
Plus it sells papers.
His ‘celebrity’ detractors certainly don’t have any problem putting their opposing views and personal attacks in the media.
But wait... they seem to think they talk for everybody.
If you don’t agree you’re obviously a red neck racist homophobe or a Bible bashing moron.
All hateful assumptions you would think... no redemption on offer?
Funny world we live in when if you state your religious beliefs (and his are way different to mine) you are made a pariah, while others in the same world are lauded for their criminality.

Meh. I personally don't care what Folau says, as much as I think he's moronic. BUT, if he makes public comments that he knows will enrage his employer's sponsors, expect to cop the consequences. If I said anybody would burn in hell, I'd be sacked within 12 hours, regardless of the religious rationale.

Freedom of speech means he can say what he wants. It also means people can say he's a homophobe. Which he is.

So pleasing sponsors is more important than freedom of speech?
What’s next?
Can’t have a different view to the government without repercussions?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

It’s simple. He’s entitled to his views, as misguided as they are. And potential employers have the right to not want someone expressing those views representing them. Explaining this to some is akin to what it would be like handing an IPhone to a caveman and trying to explain how to use Safari.

 

[Masterton]

Everyone has opinions about how we should all live our lives
As a high profile sports person you have to be prepared for a backlash if you voice you opinions on social media
There was absolutely no need for Folau to post what he did
Wether you agree with his comments or not I believe it is wrong to post these comments
What was he hoping to achieve anyway


I can see a squirrel grip coming Folau's way

Different people find different things offensive.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with giving people your personal opinion on a topic as long as it’s your personal opinion and you’re not pretending to talk for someone else.
Folau never said he was speaking on behalf of anyone except himself, and the Bible.
Never said he was talking on behalf of players, sponsors or Rugby Union... in fact never said anything hateful.
References were made that all sinners (whether you believe in his interpretation of sinners or not) should repent before they die to enter Heaven.
Not once has he ever mentioned he hated any of these sinners, although it has been twisted that way by most commentators who believe that’s what ‘modern society’ wants to hear.
Plus it sells papers.
His ‘celebrity’ detractors certainly don’t have any problem putting their opposing views and personal attacks in the media.
But wait... they seem to think they talk for everybody.
If you don’t agree you’re obviously a red neck racist homophobe or a Bible bashing moron.
All hateful assumptions you would think... no redemption on offer?
Funny world we live in when if you state your religious beliefs (and his are way different to mine) you are made a pariah, while others in the same world are lauded for their criminality.

Meh. I personally don't care what Folau says, as much as I think he's moronic. BUT, if he makes public comments that he knows will enrage his employer's sponsors, expect to cop the consequences. If I said anybody would burn in hell, I'd be sacked within 12 hours, regardless of the religious rationale.

Freedom of speech means he can say what he wants. It also means people can say he's a homophobe. Which he is.

So pleasing sponsors is more important than freedom of speech?
What’s next?
Can’t have a different view to the government without repercussions?

You still have freedom of speech. They also have the freedom not to employ you. Go and make some very public statements that you think Asians are subhuman or that your religion says cheaters should be stoned to death, see how much support you get from your employer.

Speaking personally, If I made public criticisms the government of the day, yes, I would be sacked.

 

[colinbh]

Everyone has opinions about how we should all live our lives
As a high profile sports person you have to be prepared for a backlash if you voice you opinions on social media
There was absolutely no need for Folau to post what he did
Wether you agree with his comments or not I believe it is wrong to post these comments
What was he hoping to achieve anyway


I can see a squirrel grip coming Folau's way

Different people find different things offensive.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with giving people your personal opinion on a topic as long as it’s your personal opinion and you’re not pretending to talk for someone else.
Folau never said he was speaking on behalf of anyone except himself, and the Bible.
Never said he was talking on behalf of players, sponsors or Rugby Union... in fact never said anything hateful.
References were made that all sinners (whether you believe in his interpretation of sinners or not) should repent before they die to enter Heaven.
Not once has he ever mentioned he hated any of these sinners, although it has been twisted that way by most commentators who believe that’s what ‘modern society’ wants to hear.
Plus it sells papers.
His ‘celebrity’ detractors certainly don’t have any problem putting their opposing views and personal attacks in the media.
But wait... they seem to think they talk for everybody.
If you don’t agree you’re obviously a red neck racist homophobe or a Bible bashing moron.
All hateful assumptions you would think... no redemption on offer?
Funny world we live in when if you state your religious beliefs (and his are way different to mine) you are made a pariah, while others in the same world are lauded for their criminality.

Meh. I personally don't care what Folau says, as much as I think he's moronic. BUT, if he makes public comments that he knows will enrage his employer's sponsors, expect to cop the consequences. If I said anybody would burn in hell, I'd be sacked within 12 hours, regardless of the religious rationale.

Freedom of speech means he can say what he wants. It also means people can say he's a homophobe. Which he is.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

[cktiger]

It’s simple. He’s entitled to his views, as misguided as they are. And potential employers have the right to not want someone expressing those views representing them. Explaining this to some is akin to what it would be like handing an IPhone to a caveman and trying to explain how to use Safari.

Or explaining it to someone who believes their opinion must be the only correct one.
God help the poor misguided. 🤣