Forward Firing

[crouching_tiger]

I feel the forward pack is showing lack of cohesion and consistency to play as a team unit. It has been an ongoing issue for many years now. Why can't the WT forwards ALL aim up most weeks where we can all walk away from a match saying "geez the ENTIRE forward pack played awesome".
Most games i can walk away thinking only 1 or 2 forwards were a standout per match. For example one week it will be Heighno and Ellis as the players who lifted, the next week it will be Gibbo and Fulton and the next it will be Galloway and Fifita.
Why can't they ALL just aim up in the engine room for the 80mins each week consistently? If this was able to be achieved, then i think it would be the first step for the halves to be able to not be so pressured and play more confident footy.

 

[system]

Very hard to act as a cohesive unit when your playmakers give you no direction except sideways.

Not making excuses for the pack as they have been poor but the ball seems to travel past countless runners all night on it's way sideways and only hits the chest of a forward running one out to get smashed.

 

[crouching_tiger]

Very hard to act as a cohesive unit when your playmakers give you no direction except sideways.

Not making excuses for the pack as they have been poor but the ball seems to travel past countless runners all night on it's way sideways and only hits the chest of a forward running one out to get smashed.

I feel a lot of this is starting to happen a lot more because Sheens is using Farah more as a half this year. This is due to the WT still not having an experienced enough halfback to begin with, and the continual Marshall halfback building scheme.
Sheens should just let whoever is playing in the 7 jersey FREE REIGN and take control over this team and show more faith in the lesser experienced. Marshall is a GAMEBREAKER, not a PLAYMAKER. It is clear as day, and once Sheens realises this, the entire team will be better off for it IMO.

 

[system]

It certainly gets frustrating when you see the off the ball work the forwards and especially the likes of Ryan & Ayshford do and it is always for nought. But to their credit they keep busting their humps to get it done

 

[innsaneink]

We rely mostly on going around teams, not thru them…we play touch or sevens style RL, not semi final or origin style which is forwards orientated...go forward provided by quick ptb's and scoots from dh....its exciting but not conducive to making the play offs...it all started in 04

 

[Guest]

The team has fallen away from doing the basics well in the last few weeks. Marshall has gone quiet since Moltzen was injured and doesn't look overly threatening. The injury to Farah hasn't helped and over the last 2 weeks only one forward has made more than 100 metres in the game, against the Bulldogs it was Gibbs, and last night Heighno.

Not sure what is going on at training, but the basic fundamentals are letting the Tigers down, such as completions and a good kick chase. They managed to grind with the Panthers for 40 minutes but that's not enough to win a game. And yep, the lack of cohesion in the halves is concerning at the moment. Someone needs to put their hand up and offer some direction out there if the Tigers are going to be a force this year.

 

[Captain_Awesome]

before the bulldogs match we had the most metres gained of any team. In the last two matches we have really dropped off

 

[Geo]

Hold on maybe if we held onto the ball when we have it and stopped giving away stupid nit picking penalties when we dont….the go forward might improve....

What do you think....

Crouching_tiger raises a good point.....I mean this is basically the same forward pack that was on the field when we won 4 games....

What's changed......No Tim Moltzen....it had to be said....

 

[Paris_Cobbs]

CT said: "I feel a lot of this is starting to happen a lot more because Sheens is using Farah more as a half this year. This is due to the WT still not having an experienced enough halfback to begin with, and the continual Marshall halfback building scheme.
Sheens should just let whoever is playing in the 7 jersey FREE REIGN and take control over this team and show more faith in the lesser experienced. Marshall is a GAMEBREAKER, not a PLAYMAKER. It is clear as day, and once Sheens realises this, the entire team will be better off for it IMO."

Wouldn't it be crazy to give Blake Lazarus 'free reign' and expect him t run the attack when we have Robbie Farah and Benji Marshall in the team? Benji IS a playmaker now, as well as a gamebreaker - his pass to Lawry to score was a superb piece of playmaking. Robbie can also do both - look at Heighno's try where Robbie split the defence wide open.

A lot of the stats being thrown up in this thread would be OK if we held the ball for 50% of the time, like Geo says. Pro-rata, 90 metres on 43% possession is probably more than 100 meters on 50%. Anyone got a calculator? So if we keep the ball we go forward more meters, it's obvious.

 

[Snake]

Make Folkes the fulltime forward coach the Dogs pack dominated the NRL under Folkes..but wait there would be a tantrum by Sheens side kick … A smart man knows the best person for a job.