Fullback Recruit

[supercoach]

Not sure how you win Dally M Rookie of the year being a dud..

If Brooks was at any other club he would have been dropped and sold off years ago.
Yes he is going good now, but he has taken nearly 100 games to do it, no other team would have waited anywhere near that long.
Tim Smith, Tasesa Lavea are 2 other halves who won rookie of the year and were duds

He is finally playing behind a pack that rips and tares might have something to do with it. Also not having his mates around in the same team may also have something to do with it

 

[Tigerdon]

Not sure how you win Dally M Rookie of the year being a dud..

If Brooks was at any other club he would have been dropped and sold off years ago.
Yes he is going good now, but he has taken nearly 100 games to do it, no other team would have waited anywhere near that long.
Tim Smith, Tasesa Lavea are 2 other halves who won rookie of the year and were duds

I agree we should have punted Brooks and kept LittleJohn. LittleJohn or Milky or Moses on a Mill per season.

Where did I say we should have kept any of those nuffies, you and a few others just make crap up to put the boot in.
I am glad we let those blokes go, I stand by my comments Brooks got a free ride he would never have got at another club.
I have said numerous times Brooks is playing good now, the last month, but before that he was over payed and over rated.
What is so wrong with those opinions, if Brooks had shown anything he would have had big money offers from other teams to move on like his mates did last year.

Who would you have replaced Brooks with? Between 2013-2017 our cap was a real mess.

The only real chance would have been at the end of 2017, when there was a lot of player movement and we had money to spend.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Not sure how you win Dally M Rookie of the year being a dud..

If Brooks was at any other club he would have been dropped and sold off years ago.
Yes he is going good now, but he has taken nearly 100 games to do it, no other team would have waited anywhere near that long.
Tim Smith, Tasesa Lavea are 2 other halves who won rookie of the year and were duds

I agree we should have punted Brooks and kept LittleJohn. LittleJohn or Milky or Moses on a Mill per season.

Where did I say we should have kept any of those nuffies, you and a few others just make crap up to put the boot in.
I am glad we let those blokes go, I stand by my comments Brooks got a free ride he would never have got at another club.
I have said numerous times Brooks is playing good now, the last month, but before that he was over payed and over rated.
What is so wrong with those opinions, if Brooks had shown anything he would have had big money offers from other teams to move on like his mates did last year.

I think most people would agree with you 851\. In previous seasons, even former great halves like Johns and Fittler were lamenting that Brooks wasn't living up to expectations and just wouldn't take control of matches like a good half should. When it comes to assessing halfback play, I trust their judgment over anyone on here. Their disappointment was palpable, as it was for many of us fans.

Thankfully now though he is coming into his own. It's taken a while and in hindsight, I guess I'm glad we persisted with him. However, I reckon if we had any better options for half during this period, Brooks may not have been given the 'free ride' he was given. I agree that other clubs with better halfback stocks probably would've booted him sooner.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. It turns everyone into "I told you so" experts. Truth be known I reckon all Tigers supporters, at some point, would've had some doubts about Brooks ever fully realising his 'potential' in the NRL.

 

[Tigerdon]

If Brooks was at any other club he would have been dropped and sold off years ago.
Yes he is going good now, but he has taken nearly 100 games to do it, no other team would have waited anywhere near that long.
Tim Smith, Tasesa Lavea are 2 other halves who won rookie of the year and were duds

I agree we should have punted Brooks and kept LittleJohn. LittleJohn or Milky or Moses on a Mill per season.

Where did I say we should have kept any of those nuffies, you and a few others just make crap up to put the boot in.
I am glad we let those blokes go, I stand by my comments Brooks got a free ride he would never have got at another club.
I have said numerous times Brooks is playing good now, the last month, but before that he was over payed and over rated.
What is so wrong with those opinions, if Brooks had shown anything he would have had big money offers from other teams to move on like his mates did last year.

I think most people would agree with you 851\. In previous seasons, even former great halves like Johns and Fittler were lamenting that Brooks wasn't living up to expectations and just wouldn't take control of matches like a good half should. When it comes to assessing halfback play, I trust their judgment over anyone on here. Their disappointment was palpable, as it was for many of us fans.

Thankfully now though he is coming into his own. It's taken a while and in hindsight, I guess I'm glad we persisted with him. However, I reckon if we had any better options for half during this period, Brooks may not have been given the 'free ride' he was given. I agree that other clubs with better halfback stocks probably would've booted him sooner.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. It turns everyone into "I told you so" experts. Truth be known I reckon all Tigers supporters, at some point, would've had some doubts about Brooks ever fully realising his 'potential' in the NRL.

I somewhat agree. If we had say Nathan Cleary as back up. Jason Taylor could have dropped Brooks.
However even with Hindsight none of the Brooks haters have come up with a better alternative. They just say Brooks should have been dropped.

 

[cqtiger]

I agree we should have punted Brooks and kept LittleJohn. LittleJohn or Milky or Moses on a Mill per season.

Where did I say we should have kept any of those nuffies, you and a few others just make crap up to put the boot in.
I am glad we let those blokes go, I stand by my comments Brooks got a free ride he would never have got at another club.
I have said numerous times Brooks is playing good now, the last month, but before that he was over payed and over rated.
What is so wrong with those opinions, if Brooks had shown anything he would have had big money offers from other teams to move on like his mates did last year.

I think most people would agree with you 851\. In previous seasons, even former great halves like Johns and Fittler were lamenting that Brooks wasn't living up to expectations and just wouldn't take control of matches like a good half should. When it comes to assessing halfback play, I trust their judgment over anyone on here. Their disappointment was palpable, as it was for many of us fans.

Thankfully now though he is coming into his own. It's taken a while and in hindsight, I guess I'm glad we persisted with him. However, I reckon if we had any better options for half during this period, Brooks may not have been given the 'free ride' he was given. I agree that other clubs with better halfback stocks probably would've booted him sooner.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. It turns everyone into "I told you so" experts. Truth be known I reckon all Tigers supporters, at some point, would've had some doubts about Brooks ever fully realising his 'potential' in the NRL.

I somewhat agree. If we had say Nathan Cleary as back up. Jason Taylor could have dropped Brooks.
However even with Hindsight none of the Brooks haters have come up with a better alternative. They just say Brooks should have been dropped.

Brooks haters, lol.

I agree with 851, some people like to embellish their arguments.

 

[Geo]

If Brooks was at any other club he would have been dropped and sold off years ago.
Yes he is going good now, but he has taken nearly 100 games to do it, no other team would have waited anywhere near that long.
Tim Smith, Tasesa Lavea are 2 other halves who won rookie of the year and were duds

I agree we should have punted Brooks and kept LittleJohn. LittleJohn or Milky or Moses on a Mill per season.

Where did I say we should have kept any of those nuffies, you and a few others just make crap up to put the boot in.
I am glad we let those blokes go, I stand by my comments Brooks got a free ride he would never have got at another club.
I have said numerous times Brooks is playing good now, the last month, but before that he was over payed and over rated.
What is so wrong with those opinions, if Brooks had shown anything he would have had big money offers from other teams to move on like his mates did last year.

I think most people would agree with you 851\. In previous seasons, even former great halves like Johns and Fittler were lamenting that Brooks wasn't living up to expectations and just wouldn't take control of matches like a good half should. When it comes to assessing halfback play, I trust their judgment over anyone on here. Their disappointment was palpable, as it was for many of us fans.

Thankfully now though he is coming into his own. It's taken a while and in hindsight, I guess I'm glad we persisted with him. However, I reckon if we had any better options for half during this period, Brooks may not have been given the 'free ride' he was given. I agree that other clubs with better halfback stocks probably would've booted him sooner.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. It turns everyone into "I told you so" experts. **Truth be known I reckon all Tigers supporters, at some point,** would've had some doubts about Brooks ever fully realising his 'potential' in the NRL.

Not me..as he was never as bad as he was made out that is point..the whole team was under performing in those years I think we can all agree on that..we are now bearing the fruit..

 

[Tigerdon]

Where did I say we should have kept any of those nuffies, you and a few others just make crap up to put the boot in.
I am glad we let those blokes go, I stand by my comments Brooks got a free ride he would never have got at another club.
I have said numerous times Brooks is playing good now, the last month, but before that he was over payed and over rated.
What is so wrong with those opinions, if Brooks had shown anything he would have had big money offers from other teams to move on like his mates did last year.

I think most people would agree with you 851\. In previous seasons, even former great halves like Johns and Fittler were lamenting that Brooks wasn't living up to expectations and just wouldn't take control of matches like a good half should. When it comes to assessing halfback play, I trust their judgment over anyone on here. Their disappointment was palpable, as it was for many of us fans.

Thankfully now though he is coming into his own. It's taken a while and in hindsight, I guess I'm glad we persisted with him. However, I reckon if we had any better options for half during this period, Brooks may not have been given the 'free ride' he was given. I agree that other clubs with better halfback stocks probably would've booted him sooner.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. It turns everyone into "I told you so" experts. Truth be known I reckon all Tigers supporters, at some point, would've had some doubts about Brooks ever fully realising his 'potential' in the NRL.

I somewhat agree. If we had say Nathan Cleary as back up. Jason Taylor could have dropped Brooks.
However even with Hindsight none of the Brooks haters have come up with a better alternative. They just say Brooks should have been dropped.

Brooks haters, lol.

I agree with 851, some people like to embellish their arguments.

If you agree he should have been dropped, who should have replaced him?

 

[851]

I think most people would agree with you 851\. In previous seasons, even former great halves like Johns and Fittler were lamenting that Brooks wasn't living up to expectations and just wouldn't take control of matches like a good half should. When it comes to assessing halfback play, I trust their judgment over anyone on here. Their disappointment was palpable, as it was for many of us fans.

Thankfully now though he is coming into his own. It's taken a while and in hindsight, I guess I'm glad we persisted with him. However, I reckon if we had any better options for half during this period, Brooks may not have been given the 'free ride' he was given. I agree that other clubs with better halfback stocks probably would've booted him sooner.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. It turns everyone into "I told you so" experts. Truth be known I reckon all Tigers supporters, at some point, would've had some doubts about Brooks ever fully realising his 'potential' in the NRL.

I somewhat agree. If we had say Nathan Cleary as back up. Jason Taylor could have dropped Brooks.
However even with Hindsight none of the Brooks haters have come up with a better alternative. They just say Brooks should have been dropped.

Brooks haters, lol.

I agree with 851, some people like to embellish their arguments.

If you agree he should have been dropped, who should have replaced him?

Moses could have played half, but it does not matter who you put in there, by not dropping him you condone his poor form.
If he was dropped 2 years ago he might have been playing like he is now for 2 seasons.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

I agree we should have punted Brooks and kept LittleJohn. LittleJohn or Milky or Moses on a Mill per season.

Where did I say we should have kept any of those nuffies, you and a few others just make crap up to put the boot in.
I am glad we let those blokes go, I stand by my comments Brooks got a free ride he would never have got at another club.
I have said numerous times Brooks is playing good now, the last month, but before that he was over payed and over rated.
What is so wrong with those opinions, if Brooks had shown anything he would have had big money offers from other teams to move on like his mates did last year.

I think most people would agree with you 851\. In previous seasons, even former great halves like Johns and Fittler were lamenting that Brooks wasn't living up to expectations and just wouldn't take control of matches like a good half should. When it comes to assessing halfback play, I trust their judgment over anyone on here. Their disappointment was palpable, as it was for many of us fans.

Thankfully now though he is coming into his own. It's taken a while and in hindsight, I guess I'm glad we persisted with him. However, I reckon if we had any better options for half during this period, Brooks may not have been given the 'free ride' he was given. I agree that other clubs with better halfback stocks probably would've booted him sooner.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. It turns everyone into "I told you so" experts. Truth be known I reckon all Tigers supporters, at some point, would've had some doubts about Brooks ever fully realising his 'potential' in the NRL.

Not me..as he was never as bad as he was made out that is point..the whole team was under performing in those years I think we can all agree on that..we are now bearing the fruit..

For sure the whole team was under performing Geo, but Brooks, individually, showed very little during this time for me (at least) to think he might end up being one of the top halves in the game. He appeared to just be going through the motions most weeks and gunshy about taking control of a game. Plus his short kicking game never really improved in two full seasons and if he was really putting in at training, it would've!

Anyway, now with some grade experience, a better mindset and the right players around him, I'm happy to be proven wrong and pleased to see that he is capable of stepping up to a higher level. I don't know if he was as bad as he was made out to be by a lot of people, but he wasn't real good either. Maybe it was more a case of people's expectations were too high?

I know I would've been happy to see him replaced by someone at various stages throughout those years, but we didn't really have anyone better, hence the 'free ride' 851 is referring to.

 

[Tigerdon]

I somewhat agree. If we had say Nathan Cleary as back up. Jason Taylor could have dropped Brooks.
However even with Hindsight none of the Brooks haters have come up with a better alternative. They just say Brooks should have been dropped.

Brooks haters, lol.

I agree with 851, some people like to embellish their arguments.

If you agree he should have been dropped, who should have replaced him?

Moses could have played half, but it does not matter who you put in there, by not dropping him you condone his poor form.
If he was dropped 2 years ago he might have been playing like he is now for 2 seasons.

Playing Brooks and Moses together in the early stages of their careers was a mistake. No matter who was at 7 behind that pack was always going to struggle. Brooks defence has always been better than Moses. Moses looked good for short periods in games but would never play well for 80 mins.
Brooks made mistakes as well. His kicking wasn't as good as it is this year but had some nice touches along the way as well. When we were loosing games I never saw it solely as Brooks fault.
I thought we lacked real punch through the middle and our Right Hand side defence (Moses side) was awful.

 

[851]

Brooks haters, lol.

I agree with 851, some people like to embellish their arguments.

If you agree he should have been dropped, who should have replaced him?

Moses could have played half, but it does not matter who you put in there, by not dropping him you condone his poor form.
If he was dropped 2 years ago he might have been playing like he is now for 2 seasons.

Playing Brooks and Moses together in the early stages of their careers was a mistake. No matter who was at 7 behind that pack was always going to struggle. Brooks defence has always been better than Moses. Moses looked good for short periods in games but would never play well for 80 mins.
Brooks made mistakes as well. His kicking wasn't as good as it is this year but had some nice touches along the way as well. When we were loosing games I never saw it solely as Brooks fault.
I thought we lacked real punch through the middle and our Right Hand side defence (Moses side) was awful.

I agree with most of that, Brooks was not the only problem, he was not the only one who should have been dropped.
But I reckon he would have come good along time ago if he realised he had been dropped for Drinkwater or JLJ or the like.

 

[TYGA]

The problem we had was our forward pack was weak, we played two halfbacks, poorly coached, no depth, too many egos Farah, Moses, Woods, no depth, average outside backs and second rowers. Our team was poorly constructed and we over estimated the ability of the Big 4.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

If Brooks was at any other club he would have been dropped and sold off years ago.
Yes he is going good now, but he has taken nearly 100 games to do it, no other team would have waited anywhere near that long.
Tim Smith, Tasesa Lavea are 2 other halves who won rookie of the year and were duds

I agree we should have punted Brooks and kept LittleJohn. LittleJohn or Milky or Moses on a Mill per season.

Where did I say we should have kept any of those nuffies, you and a few others just make crap up to put the boot in.
I am glad we let those blokes go, I stand by my comments Brooks got a free ride he would never have got at another club.
I have said numerous times Brooks is playing good now, the last month, but before that he was over payed and over rated.
What is so wrong with those opinions, if Brooks had shown anything he would have had big money offers from other teams to move on like his mates did last year.

I think most people would agree with you 851\. In previous seasons, even former great halves like Johns and Fittler were lamenting that Brooks wasn't living up to expectations and just wouldn't take control of matches like a good half should. When it comes to assessing halfback play, I trust their judgment over anyone on here. Their disappointment was palpable, as it was for many of us fans.

Thankfully now though he is coming into his own. It's taken a while and in hindsight, I guess I'm glad we persisted with him. However, I reckon if we had any better options for half during this period, Brooks may not have been given the 'free ride' he was given. I agree that other clubs with better halfback stocks probably would've booted him sooner.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. It turns everyone into "I told you so" experts. Truth be known I reckon all Tigers supporters, at some point, would've had some doubts about Brooks ever fully realising his 'potential' in the NRL.

Coincidence that Brooks plays good football under a good coach and with an experienced halves partner?

Providing Taylor as a coach was a travesty to all the good young talent we had at the club at the time.

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

Just sign Isaako

 

[boonboon]

What has any of this brooks stuff got to do with a fullback recruit - where are the mods stepping into this thread

 

[851]

Just sign Isaako

He would be a good pick up, solve our goal kicker issue, and get one over brisbane, whats not to like

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Just sign Isaako

He would be a good pick up, solve our goal kicker issue, and get one over brisbane, whats not to like

And bring us some speed. We really lacking couple of good roadrunners.

 

[TonyTiger]

Who’s watching Lachlan Coote tonight? Stupid midget can’t catch a ball and is being driven backwards, he wouldn’t make water boy in Tigertown .. time for his manager to talk him up again or he’s a shot duck.

 

[The_Patriot]

I would be steering clear of Coote. Look at someone like Isaako or Pearson from the broncos, or have a go at Esan's brother who appears stuck behind Dufty, Lomax and potentially Sailor at the dragons.
Fullback pickings appear pretty slim at the moment, so hope that Tui adapts. Blokes like Will Smith are not the answer.

Or better still make a big play for Lomax

 

[The_Patriot]

Wow some people just cant come around to the fact that Jason Taylor was the reason Luke Brook's career stalled.

He assembled an average forward pack for Brooks to play behind.

Even more of an issue was the out the back block plays where the hooker and half were taken out of the game so Moses and Tedesco could rinse and repeat.

Under Potters power forwards and Cleary's grit mentality Brooks was and is twice the player he was under Taylor.