Galloway vs. Fifita
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@citizen cub said:
One of the more ridiculous claims I've read on here this year. Your hatred of Galloway really is pointless and unwarranted. Aside from the fact he averages more metres than Fifita and makes more tackles, he'll be the first prop chosen by Sheens each week.
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@Geo. said:
Don't expect a reasonable response Geo, it's obvious to anyone with half a football brain that he has no idea what he's talking about. Merely trying to put the knife into one of the Tigers best players and integral part to their go forward.
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@willow said:
I have no idea? What you and your admin board and moderators can't accept is somebody expressing an opinion different to yours, yes I know it's difficult to comprehend, but it's just my opinion. Galloway is not an integral part of our go foward, in fact we have none. The back rowers and outside backs and Fifita are the only sort of go foward we have and even then, doesn't match up to to go foward of the teams like St George, Manly, Titans or any of those teams in the top 8\. And please stop using Sunday to support your argument, we played against a team who couldn't give a crap and won't be playing in the finals. Oh yeah, and I recently discovered that you've become an administrator :laughing: I had to chuckle when I realised it's the same bloke who abused Fifita about his weight :laughing:
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If you've watched most games you would know galloway is a high contributor to our go forward along with fifita, heighington and ellis. Galloway, although not as skillful, fast or dominant as fifita, still helps the tigers get on the front foot basically every set he is involved in.
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agree 100% with what he said
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@citizen cub said:
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Fifita's 2 worst games this year was against Manly and the Titans. Both their forward packs made him look like an Under 20's player. Sheens actually hooked him in the Manly game as he was diabolicale…
Keep it up Cub, your sounding smarter with every post...
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@citizen cub said:
Do you turn away from the telly when Galloway gets the ball? The guy hits the line and more often than not will carry two defenders a few metres before being finished off by a third. Our pack has struggled to give the halves room to move whenever he has been out injured this year. He gets injured during a game and still makes metres. The guy averages 13 carries for 105m a game.
Fifita wouldn't not have the same impact if he played the same minutes as Galloway. Like I said though, they have completely different roles in the team and you can't compare them.
But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good ol' fashioned bashing.
@Cultured Bogan said:
Bogan…you have no idea....you let facts and reality get in the way!!!!!
@Geo. said:
This is true… I dare to break the mould.
Call me a visionary :laughing:
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I really think Galloway's form has been considerably down on last year.
At this stage he would not make NSW.
At this stage i doubt he will ever play for NSW.
I had him in the NSW team primarily based on last year's performances at the beginning of the year, but since then haven't seen anything to suggest that Galloway will play NSW.
I think in 3 years both Fifita and Dwyer will play for NSW.
Maybe the older Galloway gets the better he will get?? Like other props Price, Petro etc.
At this stage he would not make NSW.
At this stage i doubt he will ever play for NSW.
I had him in the NSW team primarily based on last year's performances at the beginning of the year, but since then haven't seen anything to suggest that Galloway will play NSW.
I think in 3 years both Fifita and Dwyer will play for NSW.
Maybe the older Galloway gets the better he will get?? Like other props Price, Petro etc.
@Student of the game said:
At this stage he is on par to help carry his team to a grand final and quite possibly a premiership.
And he plays for Wests Tigers, I can guarantee you on that fact alone that he will never play for NSW.
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I have no idea? What you and your admin board and moderators can't accept is somebody expressing an opinion different to yours, yes I know it's difficult to comprehend, but it's just my opinion. Galloway is not an integral part of our go foward, in fact we have none. The back rowers and outside backs and Fifita are the only sort of go foward we have and even then, doesn't match up to to go foward of the teams like St George, Manly, Titans or any of those teams in the top 8\. And please stop using Sunday to support your argument, we played against a team who couldn't give a crap and won't be playing in the finals. Oh yeah, and I recently discovered that you've become an administrator I had to chuckle when I realised it's the same bloke who abused Fifita about his weight
The Tigers have good go forward and Galloway is an integral part of it, everyone else here can see it. Whether you believe it or not, the facts are that the Tigers have 3 forwards who average over 100 metres per game, Ellis, Heighno, and not surprisingly, Galloway. Gibbs is averaging 98\. That's good go forward from two props who play around 50 minutes and two backrowers who play 80 minutes. Fifita is averaging 78\. The Dragons have one forward averaging over 100 metres and that's Creagh who averages 102 metres, not even Weyman is averaging over 100\. Manly have 4 forwards in Whatmough, Kite, Perry and Rodney, although Rodney is out for the season and Perry is also injured at the moment. No surprise they are struggling at the moment with their go forward being impacted. The Titans are in a similar position to the Tigers but Luke Bailey is the only prop to average over 100 metres per game with Bird, Laffranchi and Minichello the other forwards, and they are all 80 minute backrowers.
I'm not using last Sunday as an example at all, the stats above for the season so far tell the story. And I didn't abuse Fifita about his weight either, don't try and insinuate that I did. The topic was raised as to why he wasn't playing first grade a few weeks ago, I mentioned he had a weight issue because he needs to watch what he eats as he can pile on weight quite quickly with his build, and not surprisingly Sheens came out a couple of weeks ago in the media and said he dropped Fifita because of his weight and skin folds not being good enough.
The Tigers have good go forward and Galloway is an integral part of it, everyone else here can see it. Whether you believe it or not, the facts are that the Tigers have 3 forwards who average over 100 metres per game, Ellis, Heighno, and not surprisingly, Galloway. Gibbs is averaging 98\. That's good go forward from two props who play around 50 minutes and two backrowers who play 80 minutes. Fifita is averaging 78\. The Dragons have one forward averaging over 100 metres and that's Creagh who averages 102 metres, not even Weyman is averaging over 100\. Manly have 4 forwards in Whatmough, Kite, Perry and Rodney, although Rodney is out for the season and Perry is also injured at the moment. No surprise they are struggling at the moment with their go forward being impacted. The Titans are in a similar position to the Tigers but Luke Bailey is the only prop to average over 100 metres per game with Bird, Laffranchi and Minichello the other forwards, and they are all 80 minute backrowers.
I'm not using last Sunday as an example at all, the stats above for the season so far tell the story. And I didn't abuse Fifita about his weight either, don't try and insinuate that I did. The topic was raised as to why he wasn't playing first grade a few weeks ago, I mentioned he had a weight issue because he needs to watch what he eats as he can pile on weight quite quickly with his build, and not surprisingly Sheens came out a couple of weeks ago in the media and said he dropped Fifita because of his weight and skin folds not being good enough.
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Willow, dont bother explaining yourself. Cub is always personal about a few of the younger players and doesnt like losing an arguement. You only have to look at the Politics thread to realise…
While its been funny as hell, and most on hear realise how important both Galloway and Fifita are to our team, its best to move on as he wont give in...
While its been funny as hell, and most on hear realise how important both Galloway and Fifita are to our team, its best to move on as he wont give in...
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They are both very important to our team and we need them both to continue playing well.
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There seems to be a lot of opinion in this thread based on gut feel or stats that don't quite add up. I think someone suggested that Galloway was there or thereabouts in terms of average metres per game? I wish he was, but that's just not the case. Every team with the exception of Manly, the Warriors and Newcastle have better props in term of that stat. Leaving the premium 'metre eaters' like Thaiday, Shillington and Hannant to one side, even honest old Dan Hunt and the recycled Jason Ryles have better average performance in that area than Keith G.
The point may be that Galloway is some significant distance behind Ellis and Heighington in total and average metres. You could be forgiven for thinking that many of those metres come later in the tackle count, but from my perspective this last Sunday, the back rowers were called upon to do way too much, too early
Galloway has missed 42 tackles in 16 starts, Fifita 30 in 18 starts. That's an interesting one, because more than one poster has suggested, not just in this thread, that Fifita constantly makes errors, either in defence, or in understanding which channel he should be protecting. I do accept that the stat may be coloured by respective minutes played. The reality of Galloway's shortcomings in that area were all too apparent in the Hoffmann try, Sunday. A miserable effort that.
There's not much discussion to be had about line breaks, since Keith hasn't made one this season, whereas Fifita has made either 9 or 10.
In 18 starts Fifita has made 285 tackles, Galloway 343 in 16\. Again, that stat may be better represented by minutes played, which is more relevant than games played.
Fifita's stats were superior on Sunday, no question. Fifita was on the park for 34 minutes, compared to Galloway's 60\. Made 7 tackle breaks, zip to Galloway, the same number of tackles (18),returned 177 metres from 10 runs, compared to Galloway's 142 from 17\. Excellent game from Fifita, should be rewarded with at 50 minutes this week.
I have to say that I'm disappointed with Galloway's progress over a period of five seasons. He is adequate, shows glimpses of intent, yet so often seems to retreat to his default position. While he isn't blessed with inherent ball skills or great athleticism, he is capable, given his size, of fulfilling a similar role to Thaiday, Hannant or Civonoceva. Pace multiplied by body height. Cub referred to his concussion against Souths and you know he was 100% correct. It never would have happened if he hadn't collided with the defenders in such an upright position.
I'm a Fifita fan, think, as does the great man Big Arthur, that he will be a special player. His rate of improvement this year suggests that in spades
The point may be that Galloway is some significant distance behind Ellis and Heighington in total and average metres. You could be forgiven for thinking that many of those metres come later in the tackle count, but from my perspective this last Sunday, the back rowers were called upon to do way too much, too early
Galloway has missed 42 tackles in 16 starts, Fifita 30 in 18 starts. That's an interesting one, because more than one poster has suggested, not just in this thread, that Fifita constantly makes errors, either in defence, or in understanding which channel he should be protecting. I do accept that the stat may be coloured by respective minutes played. The reality of Galloway's shortcomings in that area were all too apparent in the Hoffmann try, Sunday. A miserable effort that.
There's not much discussion to be had about line breaks, since Keith hasn't made one this season, whereas Fifita has made either 9 or 10.
In 18 starts Fifita has made 285 tackles, Galloway 343 in 16\. Again, that stat may be better represented by minutes played, which is more relevant than games played.
Fifita's stats were superior on Sunday, no question. Fifita was on the park for 34 minutes, compared to Galloway's 60\. Made 7 tackle breaks, zip to Galloway, the same number of tackles (18),returned 177 metres from 10 runs, compared to Galloway's 142 from 17\. Excellent game from Fifita, should be rewarded with at 50 minutes this week.
I have to say that I'm disappointed with Galloway's progress over a period of five seasons. He is adequate, shows glimpses of intent, yet so often seems to retreat to his default position. While he isn't blessed with inherent ball skills or great athleticism, he is capable, given his size, of fulfilling a similar role to Thaiday, Hannant or Civonoceva. Pace multiplied by body height. Cub referred to his concussion against Souths and you know he was 100% correct. It never would have happened if he hadn't collided with the defenders in such an upright position.
I'm a Fifita fan, think, as does the great man Big Arthur, that he will be a special player. His rate of improvement this year suggests that in spades
Ah at least we know were the cub gets it….
I like this stat .....of all the players in the NRL Galloway ranks 72nd in average metres gained out of 453.....
Fifita 195th
I like this stat .....of all the players in the NRL Galloway ranks 72nd in average metres gained out of 453.....
Fifita 195th
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Galloways biggest problem is his speed.. since hes come back from injury he has barely any impact on most runs. On the other hand youve got Fifita who is making impact in both attack and defence and even has the ability to change the momentum in a match. If I had to sign Fifita or Galloway for the next 3 years.. Id take Fifita everyday of the week.
@Citizen Tiger said:
interesting read…. i guess what time you come on the paddock doesnt give justice.... look im enjoying watchin fafita's impact off the bench but to compare the two is stupid.... they have different roles, different playing styles, yeah ones more safer then the other and ones more explosive then the other.... but to be honest they both complament each other.... but some of the comments on here towards galloway esp. have been very harsh and immature... i honestly think he busts his arse for the club each time he takes the paddock and to think other wise ur a halfwit. Its been a stupid thread to start anyway.... why not compare either one to the props they come up against each wk
