Harry Grant

[GNR4LIFE]

offer Harry a tamalolou type deal 900k a season for 6 or 8 years
move liddles 350k on from 2022
have simpkin as the understudy

Ahh so we’re back here. Ignoring the fact he has a contract for 2 more years.

contracts are worth nothing mate and smith has not retired yet.

Exactly. But I think your stalker already knows what can smith and harry grant are doing before anyone else does lol.

Smith said he won’t cost the Storm Harry and B Smith just so he can go around another year. Read between the lines. If you’re capable.

Post match origin interview;

Commentator ; will be you be playing at the storm next year

Grant: we will see how a few things play out

Why didn’t he say yes I am? Why hasn’t Cam told us he won’t be at Melbourne next year. You keep harping on about it like you know what they are doing and no one can an opinion that is different to yours on this subject. You might be right , I might be right , but who are you to shut down what we think everytime harry grants name gets mentioned. Or you stupid to understand what I’m saying.

This tires me out. You talk about stalkers, you’ve been following me around for years with your petty digs. Either directly, or through quoting someone else. Jedi is a big boy, and doesn’t need a bodyguard who can’t let go of a 4 year grudge.

As for the interview, who knows. Maybe he’s under instructions not to discuss anything till it’s official. He’d be undermining Smith and the club if he went rogue and spoke for himself. Cam Smith’s quote about not wanting to cost the club those players is worth more than a rookie who is a deer in the headlights when asked the question.

 

[05TIGZZ]

offer Harry a tamalolou type deal 900k a season for 6 or 8 years
move liddles 350k on from 2022
have simpkin as the understudy

Ahh so we’re back here. Ignoring the fact he has a contract for 2 more years.

contracts are worth nothing mate and smith has not retired yet.

Exactly. But I think your stalker already knows what can smith and harry grant are doing before anyone else does lol.

Smith said he won’t cost the Storm Harry and B Smith just so he can go around another year. Read between the lines. If you’re capable.

Post match origin interview;

Commentator ; will be you be playing at the storm next year

Grant: we will see how a few things play out

Why didn’t he say yes I am? Why hasn’t Cam told us he won’t be at Melbourne next year. You keep harping on about it like you know what they are doing and no one can an opinion that is different to yours on this subject. You might be right , I might be right , but who are you to shut down what we think everytime harry grants name gets mentioned. Or you stupid to understand what I’m saying.

This tires me out. You talk about stalkers, you’ve been following me around for years with your petty digs. Either directly, or through quoting someone else. Jedi is a big boy, and doesn’t need a bodyguard who can’t let go of a 4 year grudge.

As for the interview, who knows. Maybe he’s under instructions not to discuss anything till it’s official. He’d be undermining Smith and the club if he went rogue and spoke for himself. Cam Smith’s quote about not wanting to cost the club those players is worth more than a rookie who is a deer in the headlights when asked the question.

Okay scoop

 

[gallagher]

Do people actually think he played origin because of us? Really?

I can guarantee you Gal, he would not have played SOO without us.

Do you think he would have if he played first grade anywhere this year?

 

[Russell]

Do people actually think he played origin because of us? Really?

I can guarantee you Gal, he would not have played SOO without us.

Do you think he would have if he played first grade anywhere this year?

But we are talking facts Gal. He didn't play for anyone else.

Who is to say Madge didn't help to tweek his game in someway.

All just guesswork if we helped him or not - but if he had stayed in Melbourne
he would not have played SOO imo.

 

[CarltonDry]

I think we can all agree he's a gun with all the passion you want from a player and Melbourne got the better deal from the trade for their future.
A fit Liddle is a pretty good replacement imo

 

[Newtown]

Why Grant's stunning Origin debut is a compelling case for loan deals
Author
Brad Walter
NRL.com Senior Reporter
Timestamp
Fri 20 Nov 2020, 07:01 AM
Brad Walter

Storm officials always believed Harry Grant was destined to play State of Origin but a swap deal with Wests Tigers fast tracked his debut and the 22-year-old made a compelling case for a loan system in the NRL by starring in Queensland’s 20-14 triumph on Wednesday night.

Grant had already been the pin-up for player loans after emerging from the shadows of Cameron and Brandon Smith to win the NRL rookie of the year award but his 56-minute performance for the Maroons demonstrated the benefits of the hooker’s stint with the Tigers.

Before swapping clubs with Tigers centre Paul Momirovski for the 2020 season, Grant had made just two appearances for Melbourne but he has now played 17 NRL games and starred in an Origin decider at Suncorp Stadium. “If there was a similar situation in the future we would definitely look at it again, without a shadow of a doubt.” Storm GM of football Frank Ponissi said.“He is coming back to us as a far, far better player than when he left, which is fantastic for us, and we are really appreciative of the Tigers for the way they developed him and the way Madge [Michael Maguire] looked after him. I thought it was tremendous.”

While loan deals are commonplace in European sports, including the Super League, it took months of negotiations before the NRL approved the Grant-Momirovski swap.

The Warriors also benefitted from loan deals involving Penrith forward Jack Hetherington, Sydney Roosters forward Poasa Faamausili and Parramatta pair Daniel Alvaro and George Jennings after being forced to relocate to Australia when the NRL season resumed due to border restrictions.

Hetherington has since signed with Canterbury, Faamausili has joined St George Illawarra and Jennings is moving to Melbourne next season, while Alvaro remains with the Eels.

“I think this year showed what is achievable,” RLPA CEO Clint Newton said. “We’ve always been advocates for exploring loan type arrangements provided it is done the right way and the players are included in the process, and both parties can reach agreement.

“I have seen how it works in the Super League, we have seen how it works in other codes and I thought it worked really well on a couple of occasions this year so I think is something the game can continue to explore. “In circumstances where it is managed, like the Harry Grant one - that is the perfect case and that was the right decision, and the benefits have been there for everyone to see.”

Had the deal not occurred, Grant would have had few chances to play this season as the second-tier NSWRL and QRL competitions were cancelled due to COVID-19. However, Ponissi said Grant was ready for regular NRL action so the Storm wanted to find an opportunity for him to play while he bided his time behind Cameron and Brandon Smith. “Harry was really, really keen and even when the deal was on the rocks Harry was just really, really pushing it,” Ponissi said. “He just wanted to play NRL, he knew he was ready and we knew he was ready, so he was a big driver in it.”

Asked if he also thought Grant was ready for Origin, Ponissi said: “We always thought he would play Origin, we just didn’t know it would be so soon. We weren’t surprised by how well he played but to play 56 minutes in a State of Origin decider at Suncorp Stadium given he hadn’t played any footy for eight weeks was an extraordinary effort. That was enormous”. Ponissi said he doesn’t expect loan deals to become commonplace in the NRL but they would be easier to negotiate after the success of the Grant-Momirovski swap. “Paul Momirovski got to play more footy too and had he not been injured he probably would have been in our grand final team,” he said. “He was in our starting 13 and he got injured and that opened the door for Brenko Lee to take that right centre position, so Paul benefitted from it as well. “It was hard to do because it was the first one but it would be easier next time. We went through a lot of things, like what would happen if he got injured, what would happen if we lost Brandon Smith or Cameron Smith, what do we do then?

“We were coming up with all these different scenarios, like what if he goes to the club and really likes it and doesn’t want to come back? We went through all of that internally because it was all new to us.”

Grant is signed with the Storm for the next two years with a mutual option for 2023 and intends to return to Melbourne for pre-season training in January.

 

[JC99]

The only hole in his game is that he doesn’t have great kicking. I don’t buy that he does too much and stutters our attack or tires himself out.... we were a better team when he played and QLD were too.

He’s deceptive out of dummy half which gives his forwards more room to make metres, gives the halves more room to work their magic and he’s a great runner of the footy too. He’s absolutely everywhere in defence as well

The blokes the complete package really and is a rookie. He is footy IQ is right up there as well.

 

[fibrodreaming]

Storm GM of football Frank Ponissi said.“He is coming back to us as a far, far better player than when he left, which is fantastic for us, and we are really appreciative of the Tigers for the way they developed him and the way Madge [Michael Maguire] looked after him. I thought it was tremendous.”

High praise for our club and for Madge. Great to see.

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

but if he had stayed in Melbourne

He wouldn't have played any NRL games at all given that the Reserves grade comp was cancelled. Oh, maybe 1 or two off the bench. Hardly SOO audition material

 

[tiger_one]

@Newtown said in [Harry Grant](/post/1268563):

".........Storm GM of football Frank Ponissi said.“He is coming back to us as a far, far better player than when he left, which is fantastic for us, and we are really appreciative of the Tigers for the way they developed him and the way Madge [Michael Maguire] looked after him. I thought it was tremendous.”

Is Matterson listening and all the ex-players using Madge as an excuse to leave our club.
What a crock!!
Great work Madge - keep doing what you're doing!

 

[Telltails]

".........Storm GM of football Frank Ponissi said.“He is coming back to us as a far, far better player than when he left, which is fantastic for us, and we are really appreciative of the Tigers for the way they developed him and the way Madge [Michael Maguire] looked after him. I thought it was tremendous.”

Is Matterson listening and all the ex-players using Madge as an excuse to leave our club.
What a crock!!
Great work Madge - keep doing what you're doing!

Spread the word.

 

[JD Tiger]

Why Grant's stunning Origin debut is a compelling case for loan deals
Author
Brad Walter
NRL.com Senior Reporter
Timestamp
Fri 20 Nov 2020, 07:01 AM
Brad Walter

Storm officials always believed Harry Grant was destined to play State of Origin but a swap deal with Wests Tigers fast tracked his debut and the 22-year-old made a compelling case for a loan system in the NRL by starring in Queensland’s 20-14 triumph on Wednesday night.

Grant had already been the pin-up for player loans after emerging from the shadows of Cameron and Brandon Smith to win the NRL rookie of the year award but his 56-minute performance for the Maroons demonstrated the benefits of the hooker’s stint with the Tigers.

Before swapping clubs with Tigers centre Paul Momirovski for the 2020 season, Grant had made just two appearances for Melbourne but he has now played 17 NRL games and starred in an Origin decider at Suncorp Stadium. “If there was a similar situation in the future we would definitely look at it again, without a shadow of a doubt.” Storm GM of football Frank Ponissi said.“He is coming back to us as a far, far better player than when he left, which is fantastic for us, and we are really appreciative of the Tigers for the way they developed him and the way Madge [Michael Maguire] looked after him. I thought it was tremendous.”

While loan deals are commonplace in European sports, including the Super League, it took months of negotiations before the NRL approved the Grant-Momirovski swap.

The Warriors also benefitted from loan deals involving Penrith forward Jack Hetherington, Sydney Roosters forward Poasa Faamausili and Parramatta pair Daniel Alvaro and George Jennings after being forced to relocate to Australia when the NRL season resumed due to border restrictions.

Hetherington has since signed with Canterbury, Faamausili has joined St George Illawarra and Jennings is moving to Melbourne next season, while Alvaro remains with the Eels.

“I think this year showed what is achievable,” RLPA CEO Clint Newton said. “We’ve always been advocates for exploring loan type arrangements provided it is done the right way and the players are included in the process, and both parties can reach agreement.

“I have seen how it works in the Super League, we have seen how it works in other codes and I thought it worked really well on a couple of occasions this year so I think is something the game can continue to explore. “In circumstances where it is managed, like the Harry Grant one - that is the perfect case and that was the right decision, and the benefits have been there for everyone to see.”

Had the deal not occurred, Grant would have had few chances to play this season as the second-tier NSWRL and QRL competitions were cancelled due to COVID-19. However, Ponissi said Grant was ready for regular NRL action so the Storm wanted to find an opportunity for him to play while he bided his time behind Cameron and Brandon Smith. “Harry was really, really keen and even when the deal was on the rocks Harry was just really, really pushing it,” Ponissi said. “He just wanted to play NRL, he knew he was ready and we knew he was ready, so he was a big driver in it.”

Asked if he also thought Grant was ready for Origin, Ponissi said: “We always thought he would play Origin, we just didn’t know it would be so soon. We weren’t surprised by how well he played but to play 56 minutes in a State of Origin decider at Suncorp Stadium given he hadn’t played any footy for eight weeks was an extraordinary effort. That was enormous”. Ponissi said he doesn’t expect loan deals to become commonplace in the NRL but they would be easier to negotiate after the success of the Grant-Momirovski swap. “Paul Momirovski got to play more footy too and had he not been injured he probably would have been in our grand final team,” he said. “He was in our starting 13 and he got injured and that opened the door for Brenko Lee to take that right centre position, so Paul benefitted from it as well. “It was hard to do because it was the first one but it would be easier next time. We went through a lot of things, like what would happen if he got injured, what would happen if we lost Brandon Smith or Cameron Smith, what do we do then?

“We were coming up with all these different scenarios, like what if he goes to the club and really likes it and doesn’t want to come back? We went through all of that internally because it was all new to us.”

Grant is signed with the Storm for the next two years with a **mutual** option for 2023 and intends to return to Melbourne for pre-season training in January.

What's a mutual option? I've heard of options in clubs' favour or the players' favour, but a mutual option? Do both have to agree?

 

[Geo]

What’s a mutual option? I’ve heard of options in clubs’ favour or the players’ favour, but a mutual option? Do both have to agree?

Either can agree..Player or Club

 

[JD Tiger]

What’s a mutual option? I’ve heard of options in clubs’ favour or the players’ favour, but a mutual option? Do both have to agree?

Either can agree..Player or Club

Okay thank you. Well Storm will almost definitely enact that, barring a massive injury of course.

And it looks* like they have another JAC contract on their hands, as in they have signed Grant for another three years when he was basically a Reserve Grader ready for First Grade. I bet it was on a low amount, considering now he's starred in Origin! And that's how they got JAC too off* us, JAC was barely in First Grade and within a year or so, he's still on a low amount now playing for NSW and Australia.

Gotta hate them for their years of cheating, but gee they're making some brilliant recruitment decisions.

 

[Hangonaminute]

Didn't make the 8 with him, where are we going to finish without him?

That's the question you have to ask yourself

 

[Spartan117]

Didn’t make the 8 with him, where are we going to finish without him?
That’s the question you have to ask yourself

Unpopular opinion, In truth 2021 will be very skint

 

[Spartan117]

Heard Harry on the SEN interview with Matty Johns came across well and truly as a Storm player. The year at the Tigers was simply that...

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Why Grant's stunning Origin debut is a compelling case for loan deals
Author
Brad Walter
NRL.com Senior Reporter
Timestamp
Fri 20 Nov 2020, 07:01 AM
Brad Walter

Storm officials always believed Harry Grant was destined to play State of Origin but a swap deal with Wests Tigers fast tracked his debut and the 22-year-old made a compelling case for a loan system in the NRL by starring in Queensland’s 20-14 triumph on Wednesday night.

Grant had already been the pin-up for player loans after emerging from the shadows of Cameron and Brandon Smith to win the NRL rookie of the year award but his 56-minute performance for the Maroons demonstrated the benefits of the hooker’s stint with the Tigers.

Before swapping clubs with Tigers centre Paul Momirovski for the 2020 season, Grant had made just two appearances for Melbourne but he has now played 17 NRL games and starred in an Origin decider at Suncorp Stadium. “If there was a similar situation in the future we would definitely look at it again, without a shadow of a doubt.” Storm GM of football Frank Ponissi said.“He is coming back to us as a far, far better player than when he left, which is fantastic for us, and we are really appreciative of the Tigers for the way they developed him and the way Madge [Michael Maguire] looked after him. I thought it was tremendous.”

While loan deals are commonplace in European sports, including the Super League, it took months of negotiations before the NRL approved the Grant-Momirovski swap.

The Warriors also benefitted from loan deals involving Penrith forward Jack Hetherington, Sydney Roosters forward Poasa Faamausili and Parramatta pair Daniel Alvaro and George Jennings after being forced to relocate to Australia when the NRL season resumed due to border restrictions.

Hetherington has since signed with Canterbury, Faamausili has joined St George Illawarra and Jennings is moving to Melbourne next season, while Alvaro remains with the Eels.

“I think this year showed what is achievable,” RLPA CEO Clint Newton said. “We’ve always been advocates for exploring loan type arrangements provided it is done the right way and the players are included in the process, and both parties can reach agreement.

“I have seen how it works in the Super League, we have seen how it works in other codes and I thought it worked really well on a couple of occasions this year so I think is something the game can continue to explore. “In circumstances where it is managed, like the Harry Grant one - that is the perfect case and that was the right decision, and the benefits have been there for everyone to see.”

Had the deal not occurred, Grant would have had few chances to play this season as the second-tier NSWRL and QRL competitions were cancelled due to COVID-19. However, Ponissi said Grant was ready for regular NRL action so the Storm wanted to find an opportunity for him to play while he bided his time behind Cameron and Brandon Smith. “Harry was really, really keen and even when the deal was on the rocks Harry was just really, really pushing it,” Ponissi said. “He just wanted to play NRL, he knew he was ready and we knew he was ready, so he was a big driver in it.”

Asked if he also thought Grant was ready for Origin, Ponissi said: “We always thought he would play Origin, we just didn’t know it would be so soon. We weren’t surprised by how well he played but to play 56 minutes in a State of Origin decider at Suncorp Stadium given he hadn’t played any footy for eight weeks was an extraordinary effort. That was enormous”. Ponissi said he doesn’t expect loan deals to become commonplace in the NRL but they would be easier to negotiate after the success of the Grant-Momirovski swap. “Paul Momirovski got to play more footy too and had he not been injured he probably would have been in our grand final team,” he said. “He was in our starting 13 and he got injured and that opened the door for Brenko Lee to take that right centre position, so Paul benefitted from it as well. “It was hard to do because it was the first one but it would be easier next time. We went through a lot of things, like what would happen if he got injured, what would happen if we lost Brandon Smith or Cameron Smith, what do we do then?

“We were coming up with all these different scenarios, like what if he goes to the club and really likes it and doesn’t want to come back? We went through all of that internally because it was all new to us.”

Grant is signed with the Storm for the next two years with a **mutual** option for 2023 and intends to return to Melbourne for pre-season training in January.

What's a mutual option? I've heard of options in clubs' favour or the players' favour, but a mutual option? Do both have to agree?

The loan deal worked due to the good relationship between Bellamy and Maguire. Maguire and WTs have rightly received kudos for playing and developing Grant in the NRL, allowing the Storm to avoid a potential crisis Smith v Grant. It is consistent with the professionalism which WTs demonstrated with smart recruitment of Kepaoa, Leilua L and Laurie. We may see more of these deals with the Storm, possibly one of our outstanding juniors being developed by Bellamy.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Didn’t make the 8 with him, where are we going to finish without him?
That’s the question you have to ask yourself

Unpopular opinion, In truth 2021 will be very skint

He’s a huge loss without doubt but if we get Roberts back to form and pick up Joe O I think we’ll be competitive. Adding Siro too would strengthen our defence.

 

[TillLindemann]

Good to see some class from the Storm in praising us and Madge in particular for the help Harry got this year. Interesting too that they said if it wasn't for his injury Momo would likely have been in the grand final line up.