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@earl said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403094) said:
@newtown said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403075) said:
@geo said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403065) said:
Sheens has high praise for Hastings in the way he has turned his persona around…

From above looks like he drives standards at Wigan…something we need off the field as well as on it..

2021 and it has been very hard anyone that looks like a leader at Wests tigers. That has been the main problem with the team.

What about Tamou ? He was a great leader at Penrith. He seems to be doing the same job here.

Problem is he can't play more than half a game. Hard to lead on the field when you're not on the field
 
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403088) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403086) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403084) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403082) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403054) said:
On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

I reckon Doueihi is one of our best players. I'm fine with him in the halves. The thing is Doueihi plays a similar game at centre.

I just think it'll come down to trying to get the most value out of our top players and I assume Hastings will be one of those top players.

I think therefore it's going to be halves Brooks and Hastings and centre Doueihi.

Brooks is one of our best players as well. He has probably been better than Doueihi this year.
 
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403093) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403088) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403086) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403084) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403082) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403054) said:
On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

I don't see it this way now. Watch Latrell or Tommy Turbo. They play fullback but you can play them in the centres and they win games for you. It's not really about control now. I think it's more about making a bust or creating something out of nothing.
 
@earl said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403094) said:
@newtown said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403075) said:
@geo said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403065) said:
Sheens has high praise for Hastings in the way he has turned his persona around…

From above looks like he drives standards at Wigan…something we need off the field as well as on it..

2021 and it has been very hard anyone that looks like a leader at Wests tigers. That has been the main problem with the team.

What about Tamou ? He was a great leader at Penrith. He seems to be doing the same job here.

He may be doing a lot off field but he’s done nothing to improve the guys on field unfortunately.
 
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403098) said:
@earl said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403094) said:
@newtown said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403075) said:
@geo said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403065) said:
Sheens has high praise for Hastings in the way he has turned his persona around…

From above looks like he drives standards at Wigan…something we need off the field as well as on it..

2021 and it has been very hard anyone that looks like a leader at Wests tigers. That has been the main problem with the team.

What about Tamou ? He was a great leader at Penrith. He seems to be doing the same job here.

Problem is he can't play more than half a game. Hard to lead on the field when you're not on the field

That would mean that when he is on the field we are winning or getting on top right ?

My opinion is that we should run away from any player who supposedly provides leadership or culture for additional dollars. I'm okay with Tamou but he shows how useless leadership is. You just need a good team.
 
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403084) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403082) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403054) said:
On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

I don't think Hastings is 103kg. That's Joey Leluai size. He's nowhere near that.
 
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403093) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403088) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403086) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403084) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403082) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403054) said:
On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.
 
@earl said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403100) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403093) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403088) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403086) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403084) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403082) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403054) said:
On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

I don't see it this way now. Watch Latrell or Tommy Turbo. They play fullback but you can play them in the centres and they win games for you. It's not really about control now. I think it's more about making a bust or creating something out of nothing.

If Doueihi could play like that and get a heap of touches at centre it would be fine but he doesn't really get the chance to play like a second fullback like Tom can at centre. I don't like us losing games and he's stuck at centre barely seeing the ball get to him in good field position, whether it's in the halves or centre he needs to be touching the ball more.
 
@earl said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403099) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403088) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403086) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403084) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403082) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403054) said:
On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

I reckon Doueihi is one of our best players. I'm fine with him in the halves. The thing is Doueihi plays a similar game at centre.

I just think it'll come down to trying to get the most value out of our top players and I assume Hastings will be one of those top players.

I think therefore it's going to be halves Brooks and Hastings and centre Doueihi.

Brooks is one of our best players as well. He has probably been better than Doueihi this year.

Just needs a big improvement in his service and right to left passing.
 
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403105) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403093) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403088) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403086) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403084) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403082) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403054) said:
On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.
 
@earl said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403102) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403098) said:
@earl said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403094) said:
@newtown said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403075) said:
@geo said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403065) said:
Sheens has high praise for Hastings in the way he has turned his persona around…

From above looks like he drives standards at Wigan…something we need off the field as well as on it..

2021 and it has been very hard anyone that looks like a leader at Wests tigers. That has been the main problem with the team.

What about Tamou ? He was a great leader at Penrith. He seems to be doing the same job here.

Problem is he can't play more than half a game. Hard to lead on the field when you're not on the field

That would mean that when he is on the field we are winning or getting on top right ?

My opinion is that we should run away from any player who supposedly provides leadership or culture for additional dollars. I'm okay with Tamou but he shows how useless leadership is. You just need a good team.

Leadership is crucial and is needed at this club badly.
 
@tigerballs said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403103) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403084) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403082) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403054) said:
On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

I don't think Hastings is 103kg. That's Joey Leluai size. He's nowhere near that.

Straight from Tim Sheens, he is 103kg
 
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403112) said:
@earl said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403102) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403098) said:
@earl said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403094) said:
@newtown said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403075) said:
@geo said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403065) said:
Sheens has high praise for Hastings in the way he has turned his persona around…

From above looks like he drives standards at Wigan…something we need off the field as well as on it..

2021 and it has been very hard anyone that looks like a leader at Wests tigers. That has been the main problem with the team.

What about Tamou ? He was a great leader at Penrith. He seems to be doing the same job here.

Problem is he can't play more than half a game. Hard to lead on the field when you're not on the field

That would mean that when he is on the field we are winning or getting on top right ?

My opinion is that we should run away from any player who supposedly provides leadership or culture for additional dollars. I'm okay with Tamou but he shows how useless leadership is. You just need a good team.

Leadership is crucial and is needed at this club badly.

Our attitude on the field stinks, no one wants to do the tough stuff
 
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403114) said:
@tigerballs said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403103) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403084) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403082) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403054) said:
On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

I don't think Hastings is 103kg. That's Joey Leluai size. He's nowhere near that.

Straight from Tim Sheens, he is 103kg

I think Tim is still talking in pounds.
 
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403112) said:
@earl said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403102) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403098) said:
@earl said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403094) said:
@newtown said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403075) said:
@geo said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403065) said:
Sheens has high praise for Hastings in the way he has turned his persona around…

From above looks like he drives standards at Wigan…something we need off the field as well as on it..

2021 and it has been very hard anyone that looks like a leader at Wests tigers. That has been the main problem with the team.

What about Tamou ? He was a great leader at Penrith. He seems to be doing the same job here.

Problem is he can't play more than half a game. Hard to lead on the field when you're not on the field

That would mean that when he is on the field we are winning or getting on top right ?

My opinion is that we should run away from any player who supposedly provides leadership or culture for additional dollars. I'm okay with Tamou but he shows how useless leadership is. You just need a good team.

Leadership is crucial and is needed at this club badly.

Does that provide points for the club ? Does Tamou not provide that ?

I completely disagree with the premise that we need leadership. I bet if anything there are way too many leaders.

We need soldiers who go out and get the job done. We need the exact opposite of leadership. We need doers.
 
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403106) said:
If Doueihi could play like that and get a heap of touches at centre it would be fine but he doesn’t really get the chance to play like a second fullback like Tom can at centre. I don’t like us losing games and he’s stuck at centre barely seeing the ball get to him in good field position, whether it’s in the halves or centre he needs to be touching the ball more.

I agree.
 
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403109) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403105) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403093) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403088) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403086) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403084) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403082) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403054) said:
On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.
 
@tigerballs said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403117) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403114) said:
@tigerballs said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403103) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403084) said:
@jc99 said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403082) said:
@cochise said in [Hastings signed for 22/23 \*Official\.](/post/1403054) said:
On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

I don't think Hastings is 103kg. That's Joey Leluai size. He's nowhere near that.

Straight from Tim Sheens, he is 103kg

I think Tim is still talking in pounds.

Seeing as he is playing over there, they would describe him as having always been a lump of a lad.
 
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Sheens has high praise for Hastings in the way he has turned his persona around…

From above looks like he drives standards at Wigan…something we need off the field as well as on it..

2021 and it has been very hard anyone that looks like a leader at Wests tigers. That has been the main problem with the team.

What about Tamou ? He was a great leader at Penrith. He seems to be doing the same job here.

Problem is he can't play more than half a game. Hard to lead on the field when you're not on the field

That would mean that when he is on the field we are winning or getting on top right ?

My opinion is that we should run away from any player who supposedly provides leadership or culture for additional dollars. I'm okay with Tamou but he shows how useless leadership is. You just need a good team.

Leadership is crucial and is needed at this club badly.

Does that provide points for the club ? Does Tamou not provide that ?

I completely disagree with the premise that we need leadership. I bet if anything there are way too many leaders.

We need soldiers who go out and get the job done. We need the exact opposite of leadership. We need doers.

I think it is pretty clear we need people to be driving the standards at the club, not accepting the rubbish we are dishing up, that starts at training. If you can not see that there is a culture of close enough is good enough at this club then your eyes are painted on.
 
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On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them
 
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