Hastings signed for 22/23 *Official.

[cochise]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

 

[JC99]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

If they're working on a Mbye and brooks combo then Doueihi is probably not getting nearly as much opportunity to work on it at training I would think. He'll be back at the halves at some point I would think

 

[cochise]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

If they're working on a Mbye and brooks combo then Doueihi is probably not getting nearly as much opportunity to work on it at training I would think. He'll be back at the halves at some point I would think

Mate you have to work on your plan b as well. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't getting time in the halves at training. It won't be as much as Mbye but he is at the point where he needs to take his opportunities to show he has made those improvements. I just hope it has been made clear to him the aspects of his game he needs to work on.

 

[JC99]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

If they're working on a Mbye and brooks combo then Doueihi is probably not getting nearly as much opportunity to work on it at training I would think. He'll be back at the halves at some point I would think

Mate you have to work on your plan b as well. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't getting time in the halves at training. It won't be as much as Mbye but he is at the point where he needs to take his opportunities to show he has made those improvements. I just hope it has been made clear to him the aspects of his game he needs to work on.

I'm sure he gets some time, but wouldn't nearly as much as Mbye who's openly said he's open to leaving the club and only has one more year on his contract. Wish we could pick a spine and stick with it, been about 9 years since we've done that lol

 

[cochise]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

If they're working on a Mbye and brooks combo then Doueihi is probably not getting nearly as much opportunity to work on it at training I would think. He'll be back at the halves at some point I would think

Mate you have to work on your plan b as well. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't getting time in the halves at training. It won't be as much as Mbye but he is at the point where he needs to take his opportunities to show he has made those improvements. I just hope it has been made clear to him the aspects of his game he needs to work on.

I'm sure he gets some time, but wouldn't nearly as much as Mbye who's openly said he's open to leaving the club and only has one more year on his contract. Wish we could pick a spine and stick with it, been about 9 years since we've done that lol

I think that may be why they signed Hastings.

 

[JC99]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

If they're working on a Mbye and brooks combo then Doueihi is probably not getting nearly as much opportunity to work on it at training I would think. He'll be back at the halves at some point I would think

Mate you have to work on your plan b as well. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't getting time in the halves at training. It won't be as much as Mbye but he is at the point where he needs to take his opportunities to show he has made those improvements. I just hope it has been made clear to him the aspects of his game he needs to work on.

I'm sure he gets some time, but wouldn't nearly as much as Mbye who's openly said he's open to leaving the club and only has one more year on his contract. Wish we could pick a spine and stick with it, been about 9 years since we've done that lol

I think that may be why they signed Hastings.

At first it seemed like they signed him to play lock which is interesting. Plenty of options for next year at this point and if our halves done perform they can actually be dropped for someone decent not a rookie from reserve grade

 

[BalmainJnr]

Sheens has high praise for Hastings in the way he has turned his persona around…

From above looks like he drives standards at Wigan…something we need off the field as well as on it..

2021 and it has been very hard anyone that looks like a leader at Wests tigers. That has been the main problem with the team.

What about Tamou ? He was a great leader at Penrith. He seems to be doing the same job here.

Problem is he can't play more than half a game. Hard to lead on the field when you're not on the field

That would mean that when he is on the field we are winning or getting on top right ?

My opinion is that we should run away from any player who supposedly provides leadership or culture for additional dollars. I'm okay with Tamou but he shows how useless leadership is. You just need a good team.

Leadership is crucial and is needed at this club badly.

Does that provide points for the club ? Does Tamou not provide that ?

I completely disagree with the premise that we need leadership. I bet if anything there are way too many leaders.

We need soldiers who go out and get the job done. We need the exact opposite of leadership. We need doers.

I think it is pretty clear we need people to be driving the standards at the club, not accepting the rubbish we are dishing up, that starts at training. If you can not see that there is a culture of close enough is good enough at this club then your eyes are painted on.

There are some players at our club that don’t even set the bar that level.

 

[cochise]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

If they're working on a Mbye and brooks combo then Doueihi is probably not getting nearly as much opportunity to work on it at training I would think. He'll be back at the halves at some point I would think

Mate you have to work on your plan b as well. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't getting time in the halves at training. It won't be as much as Mbye but he is at the point where he needs to take his opportunities to show he has made those improvements. I just hope it has been made clear to him the aspects of his game he needs to work on.

I'm sure he gets some time, but wouldn't nearly as much as Mbye who's openly said he's open to leaving the club and only has one more year on his contract. Wish we could pick a spine and stick with it, been about 9 years since we've done that lol

I think that may be why they signed Hastings.

At first it seemed like they signed him to play lock which is interesting. Plenty of options for next year at this point and if our halves done perform they can actually be dropped for someone decent not a rookie from reserve grade

The currently plan is for a Brooks/ Hastings combo and I think that was always the case. Hastings could definitely move to lock if AD can show improvement at 6.

 

[JC99]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

If they're working on a Mbye and brooks combo then Doueihi is probably not getting nearly as much opportunity to work on it at training I would think. He'll be back at the halves at some point I would think

Mate you have to work on your plan b as well. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't getting time in the halves at training. It won't be as much as Mbye but he is at the point where he needs to take his opportunities to show he has made those improvements. I just hope it has been made clear to him the aspects of his game he needs to work on.

I'm sure he gets some time, but wouldn't nearly as much as Mbye who's openly said he's open to leaving the club and only has one more year on his contract. Wish we could pick a spine and stick with it, been about 9 years since we've done that lol

I think that may be why they signed Hastings.

At first it seemed like they signed him to play lock which is interesting. Plenty of options for next year at this point and if our halves done perform they can actually be dropped for someone decent not a rookie from reserve grade

The currently plan is for a Brooks/ Hastings combo and I think that was always the case. Hastings could definitely move to lock if AD can show improvement at 6.

Hopefully brooks can handle a dominant half next to him this time around

 

[Newtown]

Sheens has high praise for Hastings in the way he has turned his persona around…

From above looks like he drives standards at Wigan…something we need off the field as well as on it..

2021 and it has been very hard anyone that looks like a leader at Wests tigers. That has been the main problem with the team.

What about Tamou ? He was a great leader at Penrith. He seems to be doing the same job here.

Problem is he can't play more than half a game. Hard to lead on the field when you're not on the field

That would mean that when he is on the field we are winning or getting on top right ?

My opinion is that we should run away from any player who supposedly provides leadership or culture for additional dollars. I'm okay with Tamou but he shows how useless leadership is. You just need a good team.

Leadership is crucial and is needed at this club badly.

Our attitude on the field stinks, no one wants to do the tough stuf their f

So often they look lazy and timid. They need tough a leader to really wake them up from their habitual indifference on the field.

 

[cktiger]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

If they're working on a Mbye and brooks combo then Doueihi is probably not getting nearly as much opportunity to work on it at training I would think. He'll be back at the halves at some point I would think

Mate you have to work on your plan b as well. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't getting time in the halves at training. It won't be as much as Mbye but he is at the point where he needs to take his opportunities to show he has made those improvements. I just hope it has been made clear to him the aspects of his game he needs to work on.

I'm sure he gets some time, but wouldn't nearly as much as Mbye who's openly said he's open to leaving the club and only has one more year on his contract. Wish we could pick a spine and stick with it, been about 9 years since we've done that lol

I think that may be why they signed Hastings.

At first it seemed like they signed him to play lock which is interesting. Plenty of options for next year at this point and if our halves done perform they can actually be dropped for someone decent not a rookie from reserve grade

The currently plan is for a Brooks/ Hastings combo and I think that was always the case. Hastings could definitely move to lock if AD can show improvement at 6.

Hopefully brooks can handle a dominant half next to him this time around

Can't see it happening.
Brooks will meekly go into his shell as he always does.
Doueihi was moved to give him more freedom when I believe he was really finding his feet at 5/8 ... and was easily our best player.
If Hastings turns out to be as good as we hope it would be great to have him and Doueihi calling the shots in the halves.
Two guys who hate losing and will drag the team forward with them.

 

[happy_tiger]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Not if he can't tackle he can't .....our middle looks like paper mache at the moment ...weakening it isn't a good idea

 

[cochise]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Not if he can't tackle he can't .....our middle looks like paper mache at the moment ...weakening it isn't a good idea

Have you watched him play recently? How is his defence?

 

[hobbo1]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

If they're working on a Mbye and brooks combo then Doueihi is probably not getting nearly as much opportunity to work on it at training I would think. He'll be back at the halves at some point I would think

Mate you have to work on your plan b as well. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't getting time in the halves at training. It won't be as much as Mbye but he is at the point where he needs to take his opportunities to show he has made those improvements. I just hope it has been made clear to him the aspects of his game he needs to work on.

I'm sure he gets some time, but wouldn't nearly as much as Mbye who's openly said he's open to leaving the club and only has one more year on his contract. Wish we could pick a spine and stick with it, been about 9 years since we've done that lol

I think that may be why they signed Hastings.

At first it seemed like they signed him to play lock which is interesting. Plenty of options for next year at this point and if our halves done perform they can actually be dropped for someone decent not a rookie from reserve grade

The currently plan is for a Brooks/ Hastings combo and I think that was always the case. Hastings could definitely move to lock if AD can show improvement at 6.

Hopefully brooks can handle a dominant half next to him this time around

Can't see it happening.
Brooks will meekly go into his shell as he always does.
Doueihi was moved to give him more freedom when I believe he was really finding his feet at 5/8 ... and was easily our best player.
If Hastings turns out to be as good as we hope it would be great to have him and Doueihi calling the shots in the halves.
Two guys who hate losing and will drag the team forward with them.

I’d play the gnome at 9

 

[happy_tiger]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Not if he can't tackle he can't .....our middle looks like paper mache at the moment ...weakening it isn't a good idea

Have you watched him play recently? How is his defence?

Saw some of the highlights of the rep game ....his attempt when they scored the 1st try was pathetic ....you always chase back ...you don't know what can happen ...he literally stops chasing ....so early in the game .....really bad sign .....something you quite regularly see Lucy and BJ do ...we don't need another bloke who cuts corners in defence .....

 

[cochise]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Not if he can't tackle he can't .....our middle looks like paper mache at the moment ...weakening it isn't a good idea

Have you watched him play recently? How is his defence?

Saw some of the highlights of the rep game ....his attempt when they scored the 1st try was pathetic ....you always chase back ...you don't know what can happen ...he literally stops chasing ....so early in the game .....really bad sign .....something you quite regularly see Lucy and BJ do ...we don't need another bloke who cuts corners in defence .....

100% mate, I haven't seen him play so thanks for the reply.

 

[happy_tiger]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

If they're working on a Mbye and brooks combo then Doueihi is probably not getting nearly as much opportunity to work on it at training I would think. He'll be back at the halves at some point I would think

Mate you have to work on your plan b as well. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't getting time in the halves at training. It won't be as much as Mbye but he is at the point where he needs to take his opportunities to show he has made those improvements. I just hope it has been made clear to him the aspects of his game he needs to work on.

I'm sure he gets some time, but wouldn't nearly as much as Mbye who's openly said he's open to leaving the club and only has one more year on his contract. Wish we could pick a spine and stick with it, been about 9 years since we've done that lol

I think that may be why they signed Hastings.

At first it seemed like they signed him to play lock which is interesting. Plenty of options for next year at this point and if our halves done perform they can actually be dropped for someone decent not a rookie from reserve grade

The currently plan is for a Brooks/ Hastings combo and I think that was always the case. Hastings could definitely move to lock if AD can show improvement at 6.

Hopefully brooks can handle a dominant half next to him this time around

Can't see it happening.
Brooks will meekly go into his shell as he always does.
Doueihi was moved to give him more freedom when I believe he was really finding his feet at 5/8 ... and was easily our best player.
If Hastings turns out to be as good as we hope it would be great to have him and Doueihi calling the shots in the halves.
Two guys who hate losing and will drag the team forward with them.

I’d play the gnome at 9

We have a few gnomes ...which one

 

[TigerWest]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

If they're working on a Mbye and brooks combo then Doueihi is probably not getting nearly as much opportunity to work on it at training I would think. He'll be back at the halves at some point I would think

Mate you have to work on your plan b as well. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't getting time in the halves at training. It won't be as much as Mbye but he is at the point where he needs to take his opportunities to show he has made those improvements. I just hope it has been made clear to him the aspects of his game he needs to work on.

I'm sure he gets some time, but wouldn't nearly as much as Mbye who's openly said he's open to leaving the club and only has one more year on his contract. Wish we could pick a spine and stick with it, been about 9 years since we've done that lol

I think that may be why they signed Hastings.

At first it seemed like they signed him to play lock which is interesting. Plenty of options for next year at this point and if our halves done perform they can actually be dropped for someone decent not a rookie from reserve grade

The currently plan is for a Brooks/ Hastings combo and I think that was always the case. Hastings could definitely move to lock if AD can show improvement at 6.

Does that mean there would be a push to have Mbye gone next year?

 

[cochise]

On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

If they're working on a Mbye and brooks combo then Doueihi is probably not getting nearly as much opportunity to work on it at training I would think. He'll be back at the halves at some point I would think

Mate you have to work on your plan b as well. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't getting time in the halves at training. It won't be as much as Mbye but he is at the point where he needs to take his opportunities to show he has made those improvements. I just hope it has been made clear to him the aspects of his game he needs to work on.

I'm sure he gets some time, but wouldn't nearly as much as Mbye who's openly said he's open to leaving the club and only has one more year on his contract. Wish we could pick a spine and stick with it, been about 9 years since we've done that lol

I think that may be why they signed Hastings.

At first it seemed like they signed him to play lock which is interesting. Plenty of options for next year at this point and if our halves done perform they can actually be dropped for someone decent not a rookie from reserve grade

The currently plan is for a Brooks/ Hastings combo and I think that was always the case. Hastings could definitely move to lock if AD can show improvement at 6.

Does that mean there would be a push to have Mbye gone next year?

I don't think the club would block that move, but it would have to be a deal that works for us.

 

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On Hastings he is currently playing at 103kg, which is fair lump for a half. A lot of his problems in the past have been due to a will to win which has caused problems with more senior players when he would call them out about their form in a disrespectful manner. Apparently he has worked on the manner he does that that but is still someone who demands high standards from his team mates. Sounds like the type of person we need as long as his own form is up to scratch.

If he's a leader he needs to be in the halves... hopefully they don't move him around just to accomodate Brooks though. He and Doueihi could be a real nice halves combo, Doueihi also a very good centre if Brooks plays well too.

I think a AD/ Hastings combo lacks pace, the plan is for a Brooks Hastings pairing. Though at 103kg Hastings could play 13.

Honestly I'm not too worried if my halves are fast. It's definitely nice but they're both still strong runners of the footy who provide a threat near the line and have good passing games

Just don't see Brooks ever putting a team on his back and leading them to success. Would be a much better 6 than 7 but for some reason struggles with it. He needs to learn to be vocal and take control of a game if he wants to stay at 7 imo because Hastings and Doueihi are happy to take that role of leader

You probably already know my opinion on this but AD needs to show a big improvement when given another opportunity in the halves.

He's still a kid and already one of our best. He's a good centre but he doesn't get to touch the ball enough there sometimes which is why I'd like him further infield during a game. In the close games I want our best players in control

Part of the 5/8th role is to make the players around you better as well.

Yup, and despite the calls of him being a ball hog he's still got the second most try assists in the team and has shown an excellent passing game as well. Sure he could run the ball a little less but he's shown he can be a good play maker plenty of times too. It will all come with age and experience, he'll get there he's worth persisting with.

He has 2 passes at his disposal, the long cutout to the right, which is a great ball though he telegraphs it a little. He has a hit and miss short ball to the right that is difficult at times to run off due to his awkward footwork at the line. He really needs to work on his passing to the left has floaty and slow. He also needs to learn when it is time to give the ball early as he likes to engage the line everytime he has the ball.

I really like AD and see him as one of our best players, but he really needs to improve this aspects of his game to be a top level 5/8th.

He does have those things to work on but how can he work on that being stuck at centre on the right side? Only way he will become a better 5/8 is by playing 5/8, I know we won some games moving him but I don't think it was a great move overall. He was getting better and starting to play his best footy for us and got moved just so Brooks can take over, not very fair IMO.

We are lucky Doueihi is so good he can play whatever position and still be very good and will put the team first. A few other blokes we have will chuck a tantrum or their confidence would be shot if that happened to them

I would want to see those things at training consistently. You need to remember that we only see 80 mins of their week, the most important 80 but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the opportunity to work on those things and show improvement at training. Worst comes to worst he will get a shot to show his wares in the halves during the trials.

As I've said previously I hope he can make the transition into the halves because I really like him and see him as a future captain.

If they're working on a Mbye and brooks combo then Doueihi is probably not getting nearly as much opportunity to work on it at training I would think. He'll be back at the halves at some point I would think

Mate you have to work on your plan b as well. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't getting time in the halves at training. It won't be as much as Mbye but he is at the point where he needs to take his opportunities to show he has made those improvements. I just hope it has been made clear to him the aspects of his game he needs to work on.

I'm sure he gets some time, but wouldn't nearly as much as Mbye who's openly said he's open to leaving the club and only has one more year on his contract. Wish we could pick a spine and stick with it, been about 9 years since we've done that lol

I think that may be why they signed Hastings.

At first it seemed like they signed him to play lock which is interesting. Plenty of options for next year at this point and if our halves done perform they can actually be dropped for someone decent not a rookie from reserve grade

The currently plan is for a Brooks/ Hastings combo and I think that was always the case. Hastings could definitely move to lock if AD can show improvement at 6.

Hopefully brooks can handle a dominant half next to him this time around

Can't see it happening.
Brooks will meekly go into his shell as he always does.
Doueihi was moved to give him more freedom when I believe he was really finding his feet at 5/8 ... and was easily our best player.
If Hastings turns out to be as good as we hope it would be great to have him and Doueihi calling the shots in the halves.
Two guys who hate losing and will drag the team forward with them.

Can't agree more mate think you're spot on. It's unfair what happened to Doueihi