HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

The trolling is what got you a 2 day rest.

Simple maths, an accumulation of ⚠️ warnings.

@Suzie-Q is one of the best here and we're all fed up with the crap.
I have absolutely no doubt Suzie Q is one of the best on here, as is Lauren.

So, one definition of trolling is 'intentionally provoking or insulting'.
Are you saying I was intentionally provoking?...because you won't be able to produce any evidence that I had been intentionally insulting.

If you are I have to strongly disagree.
If stating my two and tuppence worth as someone from the Wests Magpies side of the JV which may be the opposite of 99% of the posters here, is judged to be 'intentionally provoking or insulting' again I strongly disagree.

What I am certain of though, is the amount and frequency of absolutely disgusting trolling containing what can only be described as outright abuse @Vicious got hit with over a long period of time.
I was so appalled by it just prior to me being banned, I sent a PM to you complaining of the treatment he was receiving.

I'm interested to know if any action was taken against the posters that were 100% trolling by being intentionally insulting.
 
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I have absolutely no doubt Suzie Q is one of the best on here, as is Lauren.

So, one definition of trolling is 'intentionally provoking or insulting'.
Are you saying I was intentionally provoking?...because you won't be able to produce any evidence that I had been intentionally insulting.

If you are I have to strongly disagree.
If stating my two and tuppence worth as someone from the Wests Magpies side of the JV which may be the opposite of 99% of the posters here, is judged to be 'intentionally provoking or insulting' again I strongly disagree.

What I am certain of though, is the amount and frequency of absolutely disgusting trolling containing what can only be described as outright abuse @Vicious got hit with over a long period of time.
I was so appalled by it just prior to me being banned, I sent a PM to you complaining of the treatment he was receiving.

I'm interested to know if any action was taken against the posters that were 100% trolling by being intentionally insulting.
You’ve had your turn, you’ve done your worst
SELL THE CLUB AND LIFT THE CURSE!
 
I am struggling here to understand why "Sea Eagles" and NRL management is viewed as good?

Look I expected Siebold to tank the Eagles. He hasn't yet, he may when DCE leaves. (I expect he will).

Easts, would take their manager in a heartbeat as long as they did not whinge every 10 seconds. .. Is Mestrov good? Struggling to understand any logic to this.
Please no Seibold. He couldn't coach pigs to be dirty.
 
I don't know I want a fully Privatized Wests Tigers...

Cashed up owners make some sense.

But the Nathan Tinkler knights was a trainwreck.


Returning to member control is probably too steep an ask. WT members are there, but were not made of money.

I hope Richo and all those concerned can give us a structure that respects fans while making our club, stable.
It is risky, as you say if you get the wrong person in to buy the joint were back at square one. Though Richo did set Souths up prior and post privatisation and they seem to be doing OK. Richo and the N.R.L will know exactly who the Wests Tigers need in the future, I can't see the N.R.L just selling to anyone if that eventuates. Reason it's preferable is we've had 25 years of 80s boardroom garbage with no end in sight. We have no way to enact change at HBG so are at the mercy of 20 people who are irreplaceable. Privatisation is a risk that the wrong people may buy the joint, though the chances of New owners being worse than what we have are fairly slim. Whoever is buying would have the business experience and contacts so would be much more competent in owning the team than the people we have now who are there because they shelled out $100 at some point.
 
Inner West Council mayor Darcy Byrne has called on the NSW government to resolve the Wests Tigers’ boardroom imbroglio with an intervention similar to that at Parramatta in 2016.

The Tigers remain in the spotlight and under fire after the decision last week to sack four independent boardroom directors, including chairman and former NSW premier Barry O’Farrell.

Inner West Council mayor Darcy Byrne.

Inner West Council mayor Darcy Byrne.Credit:Oscar Colman

Byrne has been an outspoken critic of the Holman Barnes Group (HBG), which owns 90 per cent of the Tigers franchise and orchestrated last week’s boardroom upheaval.

As well as a series of public comments, the mayor has convened a public rally for Saturday. He is urging Tigers fans to march from Pratten Park to Wests Ashfield and demand that the HBG board members resign.

On Sunday, he ramped up his campaign by calling on NSW Minister for Gaming and Racing David Harris to step in and take control of the HBG, citing concerns about club members’ funds being spent on legal action.

As well as the current boardroom battle, HBG also sacked three directors – Rick Wayde, Tony Andreacchio and David Gilbert – last year. Wayde subsequently took legal action and said he accepted an out-of-court settlement for an undisclosed amount.

Wests Tigers fans are entitled to be concerned about their club’s boardroom circus, says Darcy Byrne.

Wests Tigers fans are entitled to be concerned about their club’s boardroom circus, says Darcy Byrne.Credit:Getty Images

Byrne said members were entitled to “transparency” about the exact figure.

“I’ll be writing to [ARL Commission chairman] Peter V’landys and to David Harris separately, calling for each of them to intervene in the Wests Tigers’ situation,” Byrne said.

“In the case of minister Harris, I’m going to call for his agency to put an administrator in place to run the Holman Barnes Group.

“We want some transparency on how much has been spent of members’ money on legal fees in the past year … I think that is the smoking gun for intervention by Minister Harris.”

In 2016, the Parramatta Leagues Club board was sacked and an administrator appointed when the Independent Liquor and Gaming Authority intervened after a salary-cap scandal resulted in the Eels being stripped of 12 competition points and fined $1 million.

As well as ousting the directors, five Parramatta officials were deregistered. The Eels won 13 games that season, which would have been enough to qualify for the finals if penalties had not been imposed. Instead, they finished 14th.

The state’s liquor and gaming watchdog, Liquor and Gaming NSW, said last week it was “monitoring” the situation but was “not currently investigating any matters” relating to HBG.

V’landys promised that the NRL would “safeguard” the club’s long-suffering fans.

“We will look into it,” he said. “I’m not saying they have done anything wrong, but naturally we are concerned.”

Byrne said it would be a further blow for the Tigers if chief executive Shane Richardson and the club part company on Monday.

Richardson has two seasons remaining on his contract, but the deal is reported to include an exit clause that would entitle him to a lucrative payout if there were changes in the boardroom.

Asked about Richardson’s future last week, HBG chief executive Daniel Paton said: “Shane needs to make a decision now. We’ll respect his decision. That’s up to Shane, and he’ll come back to us.”

Byrne said it appeared “untenable” for Richardson to continue working under a new-look board.

“He’s the guy who’s been in charge of the clean-up operation, and most people seem to think he’s been doing a good job,” Byrne said.

“If you sack the independent directors and chairman of his board – and remember he insisted on having independent directors as a condition of taking the job – you’re sending a message that his position is untenable … if ‘Richo’ goes, I am genuinely worried about the Tigers going out the back door.

“If he goes, how do you recover from that? Who would actually agree to be CEO of the Wests Tigers?

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“How can they re-sign Jarome Luai? This is exactly the reason he asked for clauses in his contract.

“I am actually concerned that this will be the end, just when the club was starting to turn things around.

“I’m just worried that in a couple of years the Tigers will be running last, the administration still won’t be fixed and it won’t be that hard a decision to move the franchise.”

Paton and HBG chairman Dennis Burgess were contacted for comment.
 
Hi Suzie-Q....It's me BZN back after another relaxing 2-day suspension.
As one of the very few posters on here from the Wests Magpies side of the JV that haven't been chased away by the Balmain people, did you think I was going to start a riot for posting on here from a Magpies pov?

I'm just asking for a friend...do posters from the Wests Magpies get suspended more often than anyone else?

Anyway, I had better get back on topic.

As you know I have followed the mighty Magpies since 1963 and I'm now nearly 80 yoa.

Without doubt, what's happening currently are the darkest days since I started following footy.
But the next few days are going to be darker still.
Our JV hasn't worked and won't work while the Balmain side of the JV continue with the aggressiveness that's currently being displayed, and led by the chief head kicker and stirrer known on here as Cochise.
Mate the HBG are the ones to blame here. Has nothing to do with Balmain.

We are Wests Tigers
Not Magpies
Not Balmain
 
As you have posed the question...A>> Wests are still a fact of life.
Sorry @innsaneink , I have to use it. You’re jumping at shadows. Who has told you not to use the term Wests? Is that what you are saying, cos that’s about the only thing that makes sense. No one has (or should have) a problem with the Wests name. Has anyone here told you different? If not, what’s the problem?
 
I have absolutely no doubt Suzie Q is one of the best on here, as is Lauren.

So, one definition of trolling is 'intentionally provoking or insulting'.
Are you saying I was intentionally provoking?...because you won't be able to produce any evidence that I had been intentionally insulting.

If you are I have to strongly disagree.
If stating my two and tuppence worth as someone from the Wests Magpies side of the JV which may be the opposite of 99% of the posters here, is judged to be 'intentionally provoking or insulting' again I strongly disagree.

What I am certain of though, is the amount and frequency of absolutely disgusting trolling containing what can only be described as outright abuse @Vicious got hit with over a long period of time.
I was so appalled by it just prior to me being banned, I sent a PM to you complaining of the treatment he was receiving.

I'm interested to know if any action was taken against the posters that were 100% trolling by being intentionally insulting.
Why don't you contact Kul? Ask him if you can join the moderation team?
 
Inner West Council mayor Darcy Byrne has called on the NSW government to resolve the Wests Tigers’ boardroom imbroglio with an intervention similar to that at Parramatta in 2016.

The Tigers remain in the spotlight and under fire after the decision last week to sack four independent boardroom directors, including chairman and former NSW premier Barry O’Farrell.

Inner West Council mayor Darcy Byrne.

Inner West Council mayor Darcy Byrne.Credit:Oscar Colman

Byrne has been an outspoken critic of the Holman Barnes Group (HBG), which owns 90 per cent of the Tigers franchise and orchestrated last week’s boardroom upheaval.

As well as a series of public comments, the mayor has convened a public rally for Saturday. He is urging Tigers fans to march from Pratten Park to Wests Ashfield and demand that the HBG board members resign.

On Sunday, he ramped up his campaign by calling on NSW Minister for Gaming and Racing David Harris to step in and take control of the HBG, citing concerns about club members’ funds being spent on legal action.

As well as the current boardroom battle, HBG also sacked three directors – Rick Wayde, Tony Andreacchio and David Gilbert – last year. Wayde subsequently took legal action and said he accepted an out-of-court settlement for an undisclosed amount.

Wests Tigers fans are entitled to be concerned about their club’s boardroom circus, says Darcy Byrne.

Wests Tigers fans are entitled to be concerned about their club’s boardroom circus, says Darcy Byrne.Credit:Getty Images

Byrne said members were entitled to “transparency” about the exact figure.

“I’ll be writing to [ARL Commission chairman] Peter V’landys and to David Harris separately, calling for each of them to intervene in the Wests Tigers’ situation,” Byrne said.

“In the case of minister Harris, I’m going to call for his agency to put an administrator in place to run the Holman Barnes Group.

“We want some transparency on how much has been spent of members’ money on legal fees in the past year … I think that is the smoking gun for intervention by Minister Harris.”

In 2016, the Parramatta Leagues Club board was sacked and an administrator appointed when the Independent Liquor and Gaming Authority intervened after a salary-cap scandal resulted in the Eels being stripped of 12 competition points and fined $1 million.

As well as ousting the directors, five Parramatta officials were deregistered. The Eels won 13 games that season, which would have been enough to qualify for the finals if penalties had not been imposed. Instead, they finished 14th.

The state’s liquor and gaming watchdog, Liquor and Gaming NSW, said last week it was “monitoring” the situation but was “not currently investigating any matters” relating to HBG.

V’landys promised that the NRL would “safeguard” the club’s long-suffering fans.

“We will look into it,” he said. “I’m not saying they have done anything wrong, but naturally we are concerned.”

Byrne said it would be a further blow for the Tigers if chief executive Shane Richardson and the club part company on Monday.

Richardson has two seasons remaining on his contract, but the deal is reported to include an exit clause that would entitle him to a lucrative payout if there were changes in the boardroom.

Asked about Richardson’s future last week, HBG chief executive Daniel Paton said: “Shane needs to make a decision now. We’ll respect his decision. That’s up to Shane, and he’ll come back to us.”

Byrne said it appeared “untenable” for Richardson to continue working under a new-look board.

“He’s the guy who’s been in charge of the clean-up operation, and most people seem to think he’s been doing a good job,” Byrne said.

“If you sack the independent directors and chairman of his board – and remember he insisted on having independent directors as a condition of taking the job – you’re sending a message that his position is untenable … if ‘Richo’ goes, I am genuinely worried about the Tigers going out the back door.

“If he goes, how do you recover from that? Who would actually agree to be CEO of the Wests Tigers?

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“How can they re-sign Jarome Luai? This is exactly the reason he asked for clauses in his contract.

“I am actually concerned that this will be the end, just when the club was starting to turn things around.

“I’m just worried that in a couple of years the Tigers will be running last, the administration still won’t be fixed and it won’t be that hard a decision to move the franchise.”

Paton and HBG chairman Dennis Burgess were contacted for comment.
We will be recording a pod with Darcy today.
 
Inner West Council mayor Darcy Byrne has called on the NSW government to resolve the Wests Tigers’ boardroom imbroglio with an intervention similar to that at Parramatta in 2016.

The Tigers remain in the spotlight and under fire after the decision last week to sack four independent boardroom directors, including chairman and former NSW premier Barry O’Farrell.

Inner West Council mayor Darcy Byrne.

Inner West Council mayor Darcy Byrne.Credit:Oscar Colman

Byrne has been an outspoken critic of the Holman Barnes Group (HBG), which owns 90 per cent of the Tigers franchise and orchestrated last week’s boardroom upheaval.

As well as a series of public comments, the mayor has convened a public rally for Saturday. He is urging Tigers fans to march from Pratten Park to Wests Ashfield and demand that the HBG board members resign.

On Sunday, he ramped up his campaign by calling on NSW Minister for Gaming and Racing David Harris to step in and take control of the HBG, citing concerns about club members’ funds being spent on legal action.

As well as the current boardroom battle, HBG also sacked three directors – Rick Wayde, Tony Andreacchio and David Gilbert – last year. Wayde subsequently took legal action and said he accepted an out-of-court settlement for an undisclosed amount.

Wests Tigers fans are entitled to be concerned about their club’s boardroom circus, says Darcy Byrne.

Wests Tigers fans are entitled to be concerned about their club’s boardroom circus, says Darcy Byrne.Credit:Getty Images

Byrne said members were entitled to “transparency” about the exact figure.

“I’ll be writing to [ARL Commission chairman] Peter V’landys and to David Harris separately, calling for each of them to intervene in the Wests Tigers’ situation,” Byrne said.

“In the case of minister Harris, I’m going to call for his agency to put an administrator in place to run the Holman Barnes Group.

“We want some transparency on how much has been spent of members’ money on legal fees in the past year … I think that is the smoking gun for intervention by Minister Harris.”

In 2016, the Parramatta Leagues Club board was sacked and an administrator appointed when the Independent Liquor and Gaming Authority intervened after a salary-cap scandal resulted in the Eels being stripped of 12 competition points and fined $1 million.

As well as ousting the directors, five Parramatta officials were deregistered. The Eels won 13 games that season, which would have been enough to qualify for the finals if penalties had not been imposed. Instead, they finished 14th.

The state’s liquor and gaming watchdog, Liquor and Gaming NSW, said last week it was “monitoring” the situation but was “not currently investigating any matters” relating to HBG.

V’landys promised that the NRL would “safeguard” the club’s long-suffering fans.

“We will look into it,” he said. “I’m not saying they have done anything wrong, but naturally we are concerned.”

Byrne said it would be a further blow for the Tigers if chief executive Shane Richardson and the club part company on Monday.

Richardson has two seasons remaining on his contract, but the deal is reported to include an exit clause that would entitle him to a lucrative payout if there were changes in the boardroom.

Asked about Richardson’s future last week, HBG chief executive Daniel Paton said: “Shane needs to make a decision now. We’ll respect his decision. That’s up to Shane, and he’ll come back to us.”

Byrne said it appeared “untenable” for Richardson to continue working under a new-look board.

“He’s the guy who’s been in charge of the clean-up operation, and most people seem to think he’s been doing a good job,” Byrne said.

“If you sack the independent directors and chairman of his board – and remember he insisted on having independent directors as a condition of taking the job – you’re sending a message that his position is untenable … if ‘Richo’ goes, I am genuinely worried about the Tigers going out the back door.

“If he goes, how do you recover from that? Who would actually agree to be CEO of the Wests Tigers?

Loading

“How can they re-sign Jarome Luai? This is exactly the reason he asked for clauses in his contract.

“I am actually concerned that this will be the end, just when the club was starting to turn things around.

“I’m just worried that in a couple of years the Tigers will be running last, the administration still won’t be fixed and it won’t be that hard a decision to move the franchise.”

Paton and HBG chairman Dennis Burgess were contacted for comment.

“We want some transparency on how much has been spent of members’ money on legal fees in the past year … I think that is the smoking gun for intervention by Minister Harris.”

Probably a footnote in the next annual report.
 
Sorry @innsaneink , I have to use it. You’re jumping at shadows. Who has told you not to use the term Wests? Is that what you are saying, cos that’s about the only thing that makes sense. No one has (or should have) a problem with the Wests name. Has anyone here told you different? If not, what’s the problem?
We’re all Wests fans here !
Carn WESTS 👍
 
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