HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

[Rock Hopper Steve]

It would be entertaining and the listeners will learn some new words with the abuse thrown around lol

When is more info coming out about this Wests Tigers Unite mate.

 

[cochise]

When is more info coming out about this Wests Tigers Unite mate.

We will be meeting in early January to formalise exactly how it will work.

 

[weststigers]

It would be entertaining and the listeners will learn some new words with the abuse thrown around lol

Young and old or 60+ crowd?

 

[cochise]

Young and old or 60+ crowd?

It's a pretty old crowd.

 

[BZN]

I'm to old to be hip and awesome at the same time dude lol.

 

[cochise]

I'm to old to be hip and awesome at the same time dude lol.

Do you still have your own hips?

 

[BZN]

You

I met people from Bundaberg.

You must have been tremendously excited as they would have been also.
That is until they realised they were at the wrong park.
They were actually if the truth be known, looking for MacArthur Park again as he had left his cake behind, but the bus driver set them down at the wrong bus stop. 🤣
Damn bus drivers, their all hopeless.

 

[BZN]

I've probably been one of the more active members during the last week and I haven't seen anyone suggest we get rid of the Wests magpies part of the venture (the football club, the junior catchment etc).. everyone just wants HBG out.

You are spinning the same narrative as others on here suggesting there's a plot against the Wests Magpies side of the venture, yet the HBG are the ones who are pushing for the division...

Unless you can be more specific as to what's being suggested and how exactly we are trying to dismantle the Wests side of the venture, then you're talking out your backside

Talking out of your backside would be a great stage act, just like the bloke that used to fart different tunes.
Then for a grand finale that used to bring the curtain down, or was that burn the curtain down, he'd set fire to his last fart.

 

[weststigers]

You

You must have been tremendously excited as they would have been also.
That is until they realised they were at the wrong park.
They were actually if the truth be known, looking for MacArthur Park again as he had left his cake behind, but the bus driver set them down at the wrong bus stop. 🤣
Damn bus drivers, their all hopeless.

Strong effort.
Unfortunately, wit still requires timing, relevance, and a point.
Maybe next time.

 

[BZN]

They dont give a sh.. about WTs supporters.
Ive NEVER heard the chair speak about the WTs....he only talks Magpies, only ever seen in Magpies gear when hes not wearing black plastic trench coats
As Epifania said, Wests Ashfield have been at war with Wests Tigers for 25 years

The words Epifania said were NOT as you've quoted.
You've changed them around to suit your own narrative.

 

[BZN]

Actually here is 1, a moderator guy.
Post in thread 'CEO - Shane Richardson' https://weststigersforum.com/threads/ceo-shane-richardson.35365/post-2208071

And, there are many others.

Very well-done Liverpool Tiger.
And he's our senior Mod!...showing bias.

 

[The Chad]

I think we all know it’s highly likely it was all a ploy to upset Richo.
My theory is they stupidly thought it would not cause too much commotion sacking the board members and knew it would ultimately remove Richo who was the one they wanted out.
I assume they were also not aware Richo could move on and collect 1.5 million in the process.
It’s not even a secret that Enriched was receiving payments from Wests Tigers.
Even if they were done at a fair and reasonable cost and not a largely inflated cost which had been strongly suggested, you just wouldn’t do it due to a conflict of interest.

I'm not sure it needs to be that covert.

HBG's first complaint was (kind of)- they were not being included in business decisions at a board level.

The reaction was to remove the board not aligned with HBG.

PVL interviews those board members.

Richo resigns (with an investigation over his head- still unresolved). More rumour/detail comes out that the business decisions were related to the deals around stadiums going forward- deals that Richo negotiated- not the board.

PVL meets HBG & the independents are offered their roles back.

Richo is not asked to return. Mielekamp replaces him.

Kade7 comes out & suggests Richo isn't as clean as he paints himself- Kade7's rumours are generally pretty solid.

I suggested a few days ago that the board removal could have been HBG reacting on poor information & PVL, after hearing both sides, negotiated the return & that the HBG beef might have been with Richo's dealings instead.

People make mistakes. Moving the board on- could have been a case of a mistake on where the blame lay.

The question that bothers a few people now is- why would O'Farrell etc even agree to come back? If, during the PVL negotiation, HBG realised their error & accepted fault on that- couldn't that take the sting out?

Richo remains sidelined. I think Richo was the cause of the HBG complaint.

 

[TIGERS]

So Barry O'Farrell is back as Chairman. Rightfully so. Denny is out, Rightfully so.

Typical old magpies. Can't even stage a coup without coming last.

 

[BZN]

Thank you bzn.. you have just reinforced everything the bulk of us have been thinking..

You are projecting your own insecurities into a conspiracy theory that theres a plot to overthrow the magpies.

You're concerned that the JV becomes the priority and not the Wests magpies (which is the way under HBG).

Not all of us are like the HBG directors. We just want what's best for the club as a joint venture.. not as Wests and not as Balmain.. the sooner you realise the bulk of us aren't dinosaurs with agendas, the sooner you will realise that the intent from all of this is good.

I've said it myself, id prefer Wests McArthur take ownership.. give them 90%.. most of us would probably agree it's the right play... So how is that a secret sneaky agenda? I look forward to your response specifically to this part of my post - because someone with a sneaky agenda trying to spin it, wouldn't then advocate for Wests McArthur, would they?

But thanks for responding.. I suggest you consider taking a few steps back and realise the bulk of us come from a good place, no one is trying to over throw Wests... Just HBG...

How many times do I have to repeat myself in saying "HBG and WESTS/WESTS MAGPIES are connected by an umbilical cord that CANNOT BE SEPERATED.
YOU ATTACK ONE, YOU'RE ATTACKING THE WHOLE LOT, AND YOU BLOKES KNOW IT, BUT WON'T ADMIT IT.

 

[crazycat]

I'm not sure it needs to be that covert.

HBG's first complaint was (kind of)- they were not being included in business decisions at a board level.

The reaction was to remove the board not aligned with HBG.

PVL interviews those board members.

Richo resigns (with an investigation over his head- still unresolved). More rumour/detail comes out that the business decisions were related to the deals around stadiums going forward- deals that Richo negotiated- not the board.

PVL meets HBG & the independents are offered their roles back.

Richo is not asked to return. Mielekamp replaces him.

Kade7 comes out & suggests Richo isn't as clean as he paints himself- Kade7's rumours are generally pretty solid.

I suggested a few days ago that the board removal could have been HBG reacting on poor information & PVL, after hearing both sides, negotiated the return & that the HBG beef might have been with Richo's dealings instead.

People make mistakes. Moving the board on- could have been a case of a mistake on where the blame lay.

The question that bothers a few people now is- why would O'Farrell etc even agree to come back? If, during the PVL negotiation, HBG realised their error & accepted fault on that- couldn't that take the sting out?

Richo remains sidelined. I think Richo was the cause of the HBG complaint.

I would give Richo a break re the "investigation". Richo had a conflict of interest and that conflict was declared to the board. The timing of all this just Reeks of petty board infighting. Infact I really wish investigations remained 'private' unless the allegations are rather well founded i.e. "he put an axe through my arm, and here is the xray showing an axe". Not "I saw Richo doing something corrupt"

"Why would O'Farrell come back"
Reputation.
O'Farrell and the other independent directors need to clear their names.
By coming back they can prove to different boards that they are competent. They will likely stay awhile now. ... Plus they may just like this club.

 

[BZN]

Yes they loaned $100 to the HBG, they actually earn interest on this.

HBG has a 7 seat board, those 20 debenture holders get 5 seats on the HBG board. The general membership gets 2.

To make things worse, the last 2 general membership voted directors were sacked by the rest of the board.

This is not how I want my club ran.

You just don't get it you buffoon.

HBG/WESTS/WESTS MAGPIES is NOT YOURS.

Wests being in control of 90% of our club and a bunch of ungrateful rebels only 10% means WESTS ARE THE LANDLORD AND EVERYONE ELSE IS ONLY A TENNANT.
MOST LANDLORDS WON'T TOLERATE TENNANTS THAT CAUSE TROUBLE SO THE TENNANT SOON FINDS THEMSELVES HOMELESS AND LIVING ON CHARITY.
BUT WAIT, THERES MORE, WESTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN CHARITABLE, SO THAT OPTION IS NO LONGER THERE AND THE TENNANT KNOWS THIS.
THE ONLY OPTION AVAILABLE NOW IS TO BECOME SQUATTERS.
BUT, TO BE A SUCCESSFUL SQUATTER WE HAVE TO STORM THE RAMPARTS AND BE PREPARED TO SPILL BLOOD TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CONTROL, AND THE UNFRIENDLY LANDLORD IS BANNISHED FOREVER.

 

[cochise]

You just don't get it you buffoon.

HBG/WESTS/WESTS MAGPIES is NOT YOURS.

Wests being in control of 90% of our club and a bunch of ungrateful rebels only 10% means WESTS ARE THE LANDLORD AND EVERYONE ELSE IS ONLY A TENNANT.
MOST LANDLORDS WON'T TOLERATE TENNANTS THAT CAUSE TROUBLE SO THE TENNANT SOON FINDS THEMSELVES HOMELESS AND LIVING ON CHARITY.
BUT WAIT, THERES MORE, WESTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN CHARITABLE, SO THAT OPTION IS NO LONGER THERE AND THE TENNANT KNOWS THIS.
THE ONLY OPTION AVAILABLE NOW IS TO BECOME SQUATTERS.
BUT, TO BE A SUCCESSFUL SQUATTER WE HAVE TO STORM THE RAMPARTS AND BE PREPARED TO SPILL BLOOD TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CONTROL, AND THE UNFRIENDLY LANDLORD IS BANNISHED FOREVER.

But it is mine, they are owned by the members, I am a member.

Are you a member?

 

[weststigers]

I'm not sure it needs to be that covert.

HBG's first complaint was (kind of)- they were not being included in business decisions at a board level.

The reaction was to remove the board not aligned with HBG.

PVL interviews those board members.

Richo resigns (with an investigation over his head- still unresolved). More rumour/detail comes out that the business decisions were related to the deals around stadiums going forward- deals that Richo negotiated- not the board.

PVL meets HBG & the independents are offered their roles back.

Richo is not asked to return. Mielekamp replaces him.

Kade7 comes out & suggests Richo isn't as clean as he paints himself- Kade7's rumours are generally pretty solid.

I suggested a few days ago that the board removal could have been HBG reacting on poor information & PVL, after hearing both sides, negotiated the return & that the HBG beef might have been with Richo's dealings instead.

People make mistakes. Moving the board on- could have been a case of a mistake on where the blame lay.

The question that bothers a few people now is- why would O'Farrell etc even agree to come back? If, during the PVL negotiation, HBG realised their error & accepted fault on that- couldn't that take the sting out?

Richo remains sidelined. I think Richo was the cause of the HBG complaint.

Thread 'Tigers eye permanent move back to spiritual homes at Leichhardt, Campbelltown' https://weststigersforum.com/thread...itual-homes-at-leichhardt-campbelltown.33153/

The stadium strategy that was implemented has been spoken about since 2022 when Pascoe was here.

I find it really odd this would be a legitimate reason to blow up the board.

There's a huge weight of evidence against the comment that Paton made about this. He was typically vague about what the precise beef was, but they were certainly aware about the stadium strategy.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Its funny, when i first saw HBGout on the posts, my mind instantly saw it as HBGout, which is quite fitting. Gout is described as a painful form of inflammatory arthritis. HBG perfectly summarised.

I almost posted the same thing haha

 

[TigerJunior4]

I used to follow the magpies before Wests Tigers - i only watch them now as a Wests Tigers reserve grade side - i bet half the people wanting them gone don't even watch or associate with reserve grade. i don't get what the gripe to get rid of them is about - changing the name is certainly not going to magically transform them in to a powerhouse of reserve grade.

It’s not going to magically transform them into a successful side but it is embolic of the fact that, as a club, we can’t be get over the past and escape the continual infighting since we became a JV.

We’re the Wests Tigers and our feeder clubs should reflect that.

In my opinion having them play at Lidcombe is more of a concern. I’d be ok if they were called the Magpies and played out of Campbelltown every week. The Lidcombe Oval decision just screams as if some old guys are trying to re-live the 1970s.

Ideally they would be called Wests Tigers and play in SW/Macarthur region for every home game. Makes sense given the clubs strategic plan about building our presence and investing in that area.