HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

[The Chad]

They sacked the board...
They made a statement that was contradictory, because hbg had 2 directors on the WT board.
They backflipped and reinstated the directors
They have made no statements since
Its a complete balls up.

If there was any merit to their claims, the independent directors wouldnt have been reinstated...

They sacked the board... FACT

They made a statement that was contradictory, because hbg had 2 directors on the WT board. - Mostly factual. They did make a confusing statement. They did have 2 members on the board. The statement being contradictory in part doesn't make it less true however & has never been shown to be otherwise.

They backflipped and reinstated the directors - Partly factual. After the CEO resigned & PVL met both sides, the board members were invited to return.

They have made no statements since - Not a sign of incompetance, but factual.

Its a complete balls up.- Speculation

If there was any merit to their claims, the independent directors wouldnt have been reinstated... - Speculation.

For clarity- you MIGHT be right.

But also, just as possibly right- after the CEO left, after PVL met both sides, the HBG board might have been satisfied that the issue of where financial decisions were being made with no consultation with the financial backers of the club was resolved & they were happy to have the removed members return under these circumstances.

Where I will say HBG appear to have gone wrong, in my opinion, is that they reacted to what they felt was wrongdoing before getting all the facts themselves. But that is my speculation based on timelines. What that doesn't remove from the equation is if they had a point or not, which is quite possibly right & completely overlooked in 90% of this discussion.

 

[innsaneink]

No idea who it was. I said a day or so ago that it felt like a witch hunt. Why was anyone scrolling his account to see who he follows other than an attempt to dig up dirt on him?

Couldve been plenty of reasons...YOU are suggesting it was only to get dirt on him.
Sounds biased

He was in the news at the time,
His appearance is different
Hes a muso

Many possible reasons

I look up people all the time, Richard Clapton 15 minutes ago...interesting life

 

[The Chad]

The HBG appointed the independent directors, even if they were acting inappropriately then I have to call into question their decision to appoint them if they all needed removing less than 12 months later. This combined with the fact they had to remove 4 members of their board in the previous 18 months shows their instability and dysfunction. They are not fit custodians of the Wests Tigers.

It certainly does appear to be a.....volatile environment.

I would speculate- and that is the important term- that HBG reacted to what they thought was a slight against the financial backers of the club from decision makers at board level when certain financial decisions were not made in consultation with the HBG board. My speculation is that they reacted without all the information & that it came to their realisation that the issue lay...elsewhere...and once that element was removed from the club, and with the help of PVL & his interaction with BOTH sides- they saw fit to invite those board members back.

Does it show that the HBG board made a mistake? Yes, in that theory it does. Does it show they are incompetent? I'm not sold on that. At any level, there will be mistakes made by PEOPLE. The actions of those people after the mistake often dictate if a person are incompetent or not. If they saw they made an error & then offered to rectify it by asking the board members back- I won't hang them, or anyone, for that.

 

[The Chad]

Couldve been plenty of reasons...YOU are suggesting it was only to get dirt on him.
Sounds biased

He was in the news at the time,
His appearance is different
Hes a muso

Many possible reasons

I look up people all the time, Richard Clapton 15 minutes ago...interesting life

Appreciate that point.

However, if you noted that Richard Clapton followed Bonnie Blue, would you focus on that? Or on his musical history when you talk about him later?

 

[cktiger]

Anybody seen this?

 

[The Chad]

Anybody seen this?

Do I say yes now?

 

[innsaneink]

Appreciate that point.

However, if you noted that Richard Clapton followed Bonnie Blue, would you focus on that? Or on his musical history when you talk about him later?

I dunno...i might mention it to a mate who is a dead ringer for him and we often joke about that

But I wasnt looking to ''dig up dirt on him"

 

[The Chad]

I dunno...i might mention it to a mate who is a dead ringer for him and we often joke about that

But I wasnt looking to ''dig up dirt on him"

I get that.

It's entirely possible that the random person that looked him up was simply interested in his music career.

The narrative afterwards never focused on his music career or his career on a club board.

 

[innsaneink]

Anybody seen this?View attachment 33094

This is from Jolls CEO meeting

• BOF expanded a little on the Authur Laundy news reports. Apparently BOF and Laundy are mates and Laundy has offered to help WT as he is a supporter of the club. He did not offer to buy the club at all – that was never on the table and never discussed.

 

[cochise]

It certainly does appear to be a.....volatile environment.

I would speculate- and that is the important term- that HBG reacted to what they thought was a slight against the financial backers of the club from decision makers at board level when certain financial decisions were not made in consultation with the HBG board. My speculation is that they reacted without all the information & that it came to their realisation that the issue lay...elsewhere...and once that element was removed from the club, and with the help of PVL & his interaction with BOTH sides- they saw fit to invite those board members back.

Does it show that the HBG board made a mistake? Yes, in that theory it does. Does it show they are incompetent? I'm not sold on that. At any level, there will be mistakes made by PEOPLE. The actions of those people after the mistake often dictate if a person are incompetent or not. If they saw they made an error & then offered to rectify it by asking the board members back- I won't hang them, or anyone, for that.

Issue is this isn't an isolated incident. This sort of Rubbish happens time and again with HBG. It is why we are considered a basket case.

 

[cktiger]

This is from Jolls CEO meeting

• BOF expanded a little on the Authur Laundy news reports. Apparently BOF and Laundy are mates and Laundy has offered to help WT as he is a supporter of the club. He did not offer to buy the club at all – that was never on the table and never discussed.

I’m wonder if it might have been after that?
This club never seems settled.
To be honest I think Laundy would do a much better job.

 

[batboy]

Because that's what they do. 8 directors removed in the last 18 months shows a level of dysfunction that I want as far away as possible from the Wests Tigers.

Has anyone put the full list of casualties together.
I feel like there's a couple CEO's and Chairs maybe in amongst them over the last couple years.

 

[426Tlgerland]

This is from Jolls CEO meeting

• BOF expanded a little on the Authur Laundy news reports. Apparently BOF and Laundy are mates and Laundy has offered to help WT as he is a supporter of the club. He did not offer to buy the club at all – that was never on the table and never discussed.

Could be cover until a take-over deal is done , we can only pray as this would be a huge upgrade on our current owners , Arthur is a Supporter and has the bank account to fund a team no issues

 

[area52]

This is from Jolls CEO meeting

• BOF expanded a little on the Authur Laundy news reports. Apparently BOF and Laundy are mates and Laundy has offered to help WT as he is a supporter of the club. He did not offer to buy the club at all – that was never on the table and never discussed.

Its a direct quote about buy out

 

[innsaneink]

I’m wonder if it might have been after that?
This club never seems settled.
To be honest I think Laundy would do a much better job.

If hes offered to help as it appears,,,genuine assistance...I dont know why we'd say 'No thanks'

 

[innsaneink]

Its a direct quote about buy out

Theres no quote there...direct or otherwise

 

[Tim Sheens]

The real cult are the people who think men can have babies, who allow biological males into women's restrooms and allow men to compete in women's sport...

Nobody believes that, never been to a nightclub or large party in your life hey, and 99% plus it has never affected you or someone that you know and such decisions are science based. Plus, almost all women choose the bear, because they are also less of a threat.

 

[innsaneink]

Sometimes I need to double check the thread title to see where I am

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The real cult are the people who think men can have babies, who allow biological males into women's restrooms and allow men to compete in women's sport...

Less than 1% of the population. Get a life mate.

 

[tigertragic]

The HBG appointed the independent directors, even if they were acting inappropriately then I have to call into question their decision to appoint them if they all needed removing less than 12 months later. This combined with the fact they had to remove 4 members of their board in the previous 18 months shows their instability and dysfunction. They are not fit custodians of the Wests Tigers.

They are not fit to run any organisation. What would/could wests Ashfield achieve with non $100 board members who select friends and family to join them.