HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

Shame you can never make out what the question is.

You just make up what the question might have been based on the answer that is given, but unfortunately just like our politicians some people skirt around the topic at hand and don't necessarily answer the question that is asked.

These NRL interviews are mostly amateur hour, how about providing some microphones so that the question being asked can be heard so that we can determine whether the question being asked is actually being fully addressed.
 
When asked a question by the media you tend to answer the question.
Ok. Is it your opinion that discussions about bringing the magpies have not taken place at HBG over the last couple of years and that the people who have gone on record and implied it publicly are making it up?
 
Ok. Is it your opinion that discussions about bringing the magpies have not taken place at HBG over the last couple of years and that the people who have gone on record and implied it publicly are making it up?
BEWARE: Big scary Magpie's lurk in the shadows and just when you least expect it - they'll jump out and laugh at all your crazy nonsense ...
 

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Ok. Is it your opinion that discussions about bringing the magpies have not taken place at HBG over the last couple of years and that the people who have gone on record and implied it publicly are making it up?
'Making it up' & 'exaggerating the story' are not the same thing.

As a fan base, we need to stop using anything Lee H says as 'facts' as his stories are being used inconsistently. For years anything Lee said was laughed at as "Lee being Lee- chasing ambulances etc".

We can't then turn around & use "well Lee said it so it must be true" as a fact when collectively we dismissed 90% of his comments when it didn't suit the argument.

Lee H comments should be given as much credence as Ben Elias comments.

And yes, I realise that some posters on here are claiming to have heard similar statements etc.
 
'Making it up' & 'exaggerating the story' are not the same thing.

As a fan base, we need to stop using anything Lee H says as 'facts' as his stories are being used inconsistently. For years anything Lee said was laughed at as "Lee being Lee- chasing ambulances etc".

We can't then turn around & use "well Lee said it so it must be true" as a fact when collectively we dismissed 90% of his comments when it didn't suit the argument.

Lee H comments should be given as much credence as Ben Elias comments.

And yes, I realise that some posters on here are claiming to have heard similar statements etc.
You are so quick to defend HBG and "question the group think" in the face of facts, yet you don't extend the same courtesy or the same consistency in your logic when it comes to other people like Lee.

How do you know Lee is not telling the truth? Were you there? If you weren't, then how can you be sure?

My view is you try to sound intelligent, but you don't actually realise with each post you look more and more foolish and intellectually dishonest.

You should just stop for your own reputation. Whatever is left of it.
 
You are so quick to defend HBG and "question the group think" in the face of facts, yet you don't extend the same courtesy or the same consistency in your logic when it comes to other people like Lee.

How do you know Lee is not telling the truth? Were you there? If you weren't, then how can you be sure?

My view is you try to sound intelligent, but you don't actually realise with each post you look more and more foolish and intellectually dishonest.

You should just stop for your own reputation. Whatever is left of it.
Lol, one too many Resches silver bullets at the Lidcombe Oval sausage sizzles.
 
'Making it up' & 'exaggerating the story' are not the same thing.

As a fan base, we need to stop using anything Lee H says as 'facts' as his stories are being used inconsistently. For years anything Lee said was laughed at as "Lee being Lee- chasing ambulances etc".

We can't then turn around & use "well Lee said it so it must be true" as a fact when collectively we dismissed 90% of his comments when it didn't suit the argument.

Lee H comments should be given as much credence as Ben Elias comments.
Lee was the clubs chairman and was privy to information that most on here were not. Benny is nothing but a former player with some connections, he wasnt privy to the dealings within the club. You cannot place these two people in the same category.

And yes, I realise that some posters on here are claiming to have heard similar statements etc.
So you acknowledge there is a theme here. Generally where there is smoke there is fire.

Why is it so hard for people to concede that there MAY have been a faction within the group who had this agenda? For anyone whos ever been around football clubs and old heads, its by no means far fetched.

Anyway, whatever. Game is on tonight.
 
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Lee was the clubs CEO and was privy to information that most on here were not. Benny is nothing but a former player with some connections, he wasnt privy to the dealings within the club. You cannot place these two people in the same category.


So you acknowledge there is a theme here. Generally where there is smoke there is fire.

Why is it so hard for people to concede that there MAY have been a faction within the group who had this agenda? For anyone whos ever been around football clubs and old heads, its by no means far fetched.

Anyway, whatever. Game is on tonight.
Lee was Chairman, not CEO, but from now on Chairman will be known as CEO, so now you are correct. Lee was CEO.
 
Lee was the clubs chairman and was privy to information that most on here were not. Benny is nothing but a former player with some connections, he wasnt privy to the dealings within the club. You cannot place these two people in the same category.


So you acknowledge there is a theme here. Generally where there is smoke there is fire.

Why is it so hard for people to concede that there MAY have been a faction within the group who had this agenda? For anyone whos ever been around football clubs and old heads, its by no means far fetched.

Anyway, whatever. Game is on tonight.
Sorry mate- not saying it's not true.

Just that using his comments as facts don't prove any truth.

Is it possible? Sure. Is it set in stone- no.

Like I said- using Lee's comments for facts after years of claiming he talked out of both sides of his mouth is inconsistent. He's just as likely to tell a narrative that suits his cause.

"Why is it so hard for people to concede that there MAY have been a faction within the group who had this agenda?"

There absolutely COULD be an agenda. There's also just as much chance that there isn't, or the narrative is slanted in a way to make it seem more than it is- it's a very typical media tactic.
 
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A quote from an article in the SMH by Masters

"Compare that to the collegiate spirit which now pervades the NRL. Financial security is the basis of the comity between clubs. None are under threat of going broke. Rugby League Central funds every club’s player wages bill, and provides an additional $5m to assist in its administration expenses. Gate receipts, sponsorship and membership income usually cover the rest of its operating costs. Sure, the Holman Barnes Group of licensed clubs has been forced to tip in $34m to Wests Tigers the past 25 years, but that has mainly been to pay out the contracts of sacked coaches and officials."

He's talking about money that clubs receive from various avenues. I hope he doesn't thnk that's a lot of money.

Just over 1 million a year, doesn't seem like much compared to what other leagues clubs contribute, but it is Roy Masters.
 
A quote from an article in the SMH by Masters

"Compare that to the collegiate spirit which now pervades the NRL. Financial security is the basis of the comity between clubs. None are under threat of going broke. Rugby League Central funds every club’s player wages bill, and provides an additional $5m to assist in its administration expenses. Gate receipts, sponsorship and membership income usually cover the rest of its operating costs. Sure, the Holman Barnes Group of licensed clubs has been forced to tip in $34m to Wests Tigers the past 25 years, but that has mainly been to pay out the contracts of sacked coaches and officials."

He's talking about money that clubs receive from various avenues. I hope he doesn't thnk that's a lot of money.

Just over 1 million a year, doesn't seem like much compared to what other leagues clubs contribute, but it is Roy Masters.
Severely underfunded
 
A quote from an article in the SMH by Masters

"Compare that to the collegiate spirit which now pervades the NRL. Financial security is the basis of the comity between clubs. None are under threat of going broke. Rugby League Central funds every club’s player wages bill, and provides an additional $5m to assist in its administration expenses. Gate receipts, sponsorship and membership income usually cover the rest of its operating costs. Sure, the Holman Barnes Group of licensed clubs has been forced to tip in $34m to Wests Tigers the past 25 years, but that has mainly been to pay out the contracts of sacked coaches and officials."

He's talking about money that clubs receive from various avenues. I hope he doesn't thnk that's a lot of money.

Just over 1 million a year, doesn't seem like much compared to what other leagues clubs contribute, but it is Roy Masters.
Further more, who was fundamentally responsible for sacking those coaches and officials if not ultimately the Holman Barnes Group.

Would argue that there would not have been a lot left over of their piddling annual contribution after the money that was squandered on pay outs and legal fees.

Actually I don't really need to argue that because Roy has come out and stated that as a fact in his article, what a slap in the face hey Roy.
 
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