Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...

[hodgo]

i think the players no there are a fair few who wont be around. Hard to be fully invested if your not sure about whther you will be in the team or not

 

[Spud_Murphy]

How were Souths in there last year with Madge as coach ?
I can’t remember..?

A very respectable 12th. Burgi, Cook, Walker, Reynolds, Crichton, Farah, Johnston etc

I think everyone could see it was the players fault because he is a premiership winning coach ?

It’s always the coaches fault .. sheens , potter , Taylor , Maguire , Royce Simmons and his cones, sandercock , Hodgson etc. The reality is it’s guys arm grabbing , clocking off, being too slow , not tackling with aggression . You can have all the structure in the world , but blokes who don’t put in , will lead to what we have . It’s 100% attitude .

My question is why do the players, who were previously good at their former clubs turn to crap when they put our jersey on? BJ is a good example, sure he was always good for the odd brain snap, but he played well at Canberra, now he looks like a complete amateur. You can say the same about Reynolds after he joined us.

 

[Furious1]

Someone explain the logic...

We have young centers who desperately need games at center.
We have a young winger who needs to develop combos with them.
We have nothing to lose / season done...

PERFECT game to play Talau or Hoffman...

And...
We play Lawrence.

That just killed all faith I had left.

It makes no sense on every level right now and even less looking at 2021.

He played Talau last week and all everyone did after was want to trade him out.

I am not a big Talau fan...but you had to think of 2021 and let the kid at least get some games. What did playing Lawrence do to help 2021? It made zero difference tonight. But i expected the coach to at least have an eye on 2021.

You won't get an argument from me on thinking about 21. I hate and i mean absolutely hate Liddle being left on the bench until 17 mins to go when he will be our hooker next year. Lawrence has less mobility than a one legged dog. He would never ever be playing centre in my side but i'm not the coach and i don't know what the plan is. What i do know is we have changed lots of coaches and got the same results over and over, so maybe the club is doing the right thing by backing the coach and looking elsewhere to solve its problems of which i believe there are many. ( but not for this topic)

Ok that break Rowdy made I thought was the quickest I saw him run in about 9 seasons ...maybe I hit 30 x on the Fox remote lol

Was it a bad pass or bad wing?

Both imo

Benji been around for a thousand years ......if AJ can't see how Benji prefers to deliver a ball .....never will ...flat and fast

Thought you were talking about the pass from Lawrence at x30 speed ?

He was. Got confused in his old age.

 

[Geo]

The players who know they are not going to be here are pretty dumb as you would think you would be playing your best footy to put your name up in lights for other Clubs to pick you up...

 

[Deleted member 3518]

How were Souths in there last year with Madge as coach ?
I can’t remember..?

A very respectable 12th. Burgi, Cook, Walker, Reynolds, Crichton, Farah, Johnston etc

I think everyone could see it was the players fault because he is a premiership winning coach ?

It’s always the coaches fault .. sheens , potter , Taylor , Maguire , Royce Simmons and his cones, sandercock , Hodgson etc. The reality is it’s guys arm grabbing , clocking off, being too slow , not tackling with aggression . You can have all the structure in the world , but blokes who don’t put in , will lead to what we have . It’s 100% attitude .

My question is why do the players, who were previously good at their former clubs turn to crap when they put our jersey on? BJ is a good example, sure he was always good for the odd brain snap, but he played well at Canberra, now he looks like a complete amateur. You can say the same about Reynolds after he joined us.

To me , he looks lost next to benji . Benji likes the cutout to the winger . This is why I say put him next to brooks as brooks’ go to is hit the centre or second rower . He just seems frustrated and is playing that way . He looks like he’s pressing , whether it’s racing up when he should hold his position , throwing it inside when he should back himself , he just looks like he’s frustrated , and pressing the issue .

 

[happy_tiger]

The players who know they are not going to be here are pretty dumb as you would think you would be playing your best footy to put your name up in lights for other Clubs to pick you up...

Its simple ..it will take time for Madge to get used to coaching plodders

 

[hobbo1]

The players who know they are not going to be here are pretty dumb as you would think you would be playing your best footy to put your name up in lights for other Clubs to pick you up...

They did put there names in lights ..

Red lights !

 

[gallagher]

Madge is the smartest person in the club. Sheens was the smartest person in the club . Unfortunately people not as smart can sack him.

 

[Geo]

The players who know they are not going to be here are pretty dumb as you would think you would be playing your best footy to put your name up in lights for other Clubs to pick you up...

They did put there names in lights ..

Red lights !

Joseph Manu goes OK as a 3rd string Fullback..

 

[facepalmer]

Melbourne aren't all that different to us. They just have better players in every position.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

He might do a good job when he gets the team he wants but he’s been very disappointing with existing players. Holbrook and Payten have shown you can improve a team without needing to completely change the roster.

Agree. I think your really great coaches, like Bellamy and Robinson, are able to get the best out of their lower tier players. This impacts enormously on the success of a club. You rarely see a team coached by Bellamy or Robinson not show great desperation and energy in defence and rarely do they clock off in games.

Man that’s crap. Those guys recruit a specific type of player with certain intangibles. It’s not like they recruit everyone . Fringe players are of a specific ilk , and usually very similiar . For elite quality , whichever team they’re in matters little .
Also most of this teams personalities were brought to the club under a completely different philosophy. Both those coaches structures have been in place for years , so players who go there , are very aware of what they are there for .
We have to put an identity in place . We are still fielding a team recruited under a different identity .

Exactly. Bellamy would be in the same position we are in if a significant part of his cap were tied up in Reynolds and Packer.

Doubt it, Bellamy knows how to get the best out of even the most mediocre of players. They wouldn’t dare not put in for him on the field in every game.

 

[happy_tiger]

Melbourne aren't all that different to us. They just have better players in every position.

Maybe Madge should take a leaf from Bellyache's book and starting giving players the bird

 

[happy_tiger]

Melbourne aren't all that different to us. They just have better players in every position.

Quote of the Month Mac lol

 

[hobbo1]

The players who know they are not going to be here are pretty dumb as you would think you would be playing your best footy to put your name up in lights for other Clubs to pick you up...

They did put there names in lights ..

Red lights !

Joseph Manu goes OK as a 3rd string Fullback..

He’s a gun hey

 

[watersider]

How were Souths in there last year with Madge as coach ?
I can’t remember..?

A very respectable 12th. Burgi, Cook, Walker, Reynolds, Crichton, Farah, Johnston etc

I think everyone could see it was the players fault because he is a premiership winning coach ?

It’s always the coaches fault .. sheens , potter , Taylor , Maguire , Royce Simmons and his cones, sandercock , Hodgson etc. The reality is it’s guys arm grabbing , clocking off, being too slow , not tackling with aggression . You can have all the structure in the world , but blokes who don’t put in , will lead to what we have . It’s 100% attitude .

My question is why do the players, who were previously good at their former clubs turn to crap when they put our jersey on? BJ is a good example, sure he was always good for the odd brain snap, but he played well at Canberra, now he looks like a complete amateur. You can say the same about Reynolds after he joined us.

Joey was dropped at Canberra last season and later and offloaded by them. He was good in a good team. Centres don't usually look good when teams aren't going well. This season is all hard metres out of our own half and playing on the backfoot in defense, and he's never been a good defender. So a bit unfair to talk about Joey. I think Brooks has regressed a bit and there's been no improvement in Mbye. So my concern with madge is how he goes with our skilled position players, but in contrast to that Grant and Liddle have both been in terrific form, Liddle never looking better and stronger. So you look at how players are developing and I'd say it's generally positive. That just wasn't the case with Potter or Taylor. And Taylor, Cleary and Potter were either victims of terrible recruitment strategies or had zero ability to identify talent. I don't see that in Madge so far. Getting Grant, Kepaoa, Doueihi, Luciano is recruiting real difference makers on cheap money with promising futures in front of them, so again, I don't see what he can do. It's a shame he didn't have the Bennett charisma to entice Mitchell to our club, but I think Latrell was probably never going to come here anyway.

 

[hobbo1]

Melbourne aren't all that different to us. They just have better players in every position.

Quote of the Month Mac lol

We pretty much matched the Storms in every stat except ...
Tries scored
Meters gained
And missed tackles ?

 

[happy_tiger]

Melbourne aren't all that different to us. They just have better players in every position.

Quote of the Month Mac lol

We pretty much matched the Storms in every stat except ...
Tries scored
Meters gained
And missed tackles ?

And Birds given by coach ..it could work ..we shouldn't ignore it ...everyone could give everyone birds

 

[hobbo1]

Melbourne aren't all that different to us. They just have better players in every position.

Quote of the Month Mac lol

We pretty much matched the Storms in every stat except ...
Tries scored
Meters gained
And missed tackles ?

And Birds given by coach ..it could work ..we shouldn't ignore it ...everyone could give everyone birds

Ivan blew us kisses
Bellamy gave us the bird
Lol

 

[Spud_Murphy]

The players who know they are not going to be here are pretty dumb as you would think you would be playing your best footy to put your name up in lights for other Clubs to pick you up...

They did put there names in lights ..

Red lights !

Joseph Manu goes OK as a 3rd string Fullback..

He’s a gun hey

If the Roosters had a third string player in every position on the field they’d still beat us, such is the inequality of the NRL comp.

 

[happy_tiger]

Melbourne aren't all that different to us. They just have better players in every position.

Quote of the Month Mac lol

We pretty much matched the Storms in every stat except ...
Tries scored
Meters gained
And missed tackles ?

And Birds given by coach ..it could work ..we shouldn't ignore it ...everyone could give everyone birds

Ivan blew us kisses
Bellamy gave us the bird
Lol

And Lamb shoved it up our .....