High-scoring wins didn't help us: Taylor

[TrueTiger]

Why do people keep saying that Taylor knockers from last year think defence is not important?

I haven't seen 1 person suggest this. Not one post or even intimation has been of this thought…not a single one that I have seen.

I don't even see any JT knockers. That would imply that we are somehow out to get him. That is definitely not the case. All I see is stupid stuff being said and some people calling it out.

On the other hand there are some posters who think JT is perfect, any problems are always someone else's problem and if we come 15th for the next 5 season JT should be resigned for life.

Wrong again Steve,if you read my post and understood it,then you will read that if we finish 15th and sack JT ,then employ another coach and we finish 15 then again and again the following year,do we sack the coach…my context is that the players may not be up to NRL standard,so do we keep sacking coaches if the group has not the capacity to improve...don't try to say I'm a JT lover when you don't completely understand the post...

 

[innsaneink]

I don't even see any JT knockers. That would imply that we are somehow out to get him. That is definitely not the case. All I see is stupid stuff being said and some people calling it out.

On the other hand there are some posters who think JT is perfect, any problems are always someone else's problem and if we come 15th for the next 5 season JT should be resigned for life.

Just wondering how old you are steve

 

[Harvey]

Corey Parker said the Broncs try to limit sides to <16 points as they feel they have more than that in their attack each game. Im sure they could keep that even lower if they just concentrated on D but they also need to attack…Thats finding the balance that works. We haven't done this yet.

It's pretty simple actually. You need to score more points than you let in. People appear to be arguing against this and they need to go and work out what scoring more points means - it's a win. When you score less points it's a loss.

I know that this is groundbreaking news and it's going to be a surprise to some people but it's the truth and you can actually go and check it out over the course of rugby league history or in fact most sporting contests throughout history. Statistically you win basically 100% of games when you score more points than the opposition. It's amazing.

This argument has been pulled a number of times, but gives no credit to the ability of the opposition in defence. If you can defend and have a target of not allowing more than 16 points, then it is much easier to score 18 and win the game than it is to have to score 40 because you are conceding 38 every game.

 

[happy_tiger]

I don't even see any JT knockers. That would imply that we are somehow out to get him. That is definitely not the case. All I see is stupid stuff being said and some people calling it out.

On the other hand there are some posters who think JT is perfect, any problems are always someone else's problem and if we come 15th for the next 5 season JT should be resigned for life.

Just wondering how old you are steve

I can help you with this but I need you to answer one question Ink ??

Mentally or actually ??

 

[happy_tiger]

Corey Parker said the Broncs try to limit sides to <16 points as they feel they have more than that in their attack each game. Im sure they could keep that even lower if they just concentrated on D but they also need to attack…Thats finding the balance that works. We haven't done this yet.

It's pretty simple actually. You need to score more points than you let in. People appear to be arguing against this and they need to go and work out what scoring more points means - it's a win. When you score less points it's a loss.

I know that this is groundbreaking news and it's going to be a surprise to some people but it's the truth and you can actually go and check it out over the course of rugby league history or in fact most sporting contests throughout history. Statistically you win basically 100% of games when you score more points than the opposition. It's amazing.

This argument has been pulled a number of times, but gives no credit to the ability of the opposition in defence. If you can defend and have a target of not allowing more than 16 points, then it is much easier to score 18 and win the game than it is to have to score 40 because you are conceding 38 every game.

Please Harvey , for your own welfare don't go there

You can't win , Steve doesn't understand , despite many football minds thinking differently

 

[Eddie]

Childish stuff from Ink and Happy

Questioning his age and Mental ability.

And you talk about making things personal against Taylor…

Oh the hypocrisy.

 

[happy_tiger]

Childish stuff from Ink and Happy

Questioning his age and Mental ability.

And you talk about making things personal against Taylor…

Oh the hypocrisy.

Its called a joke Eddie

Buy yourself a sense of humour next time your at Aldi

Steve gives as good as he gets …..

 

[Eddie]

Jokes are usually something witty or clever.

Wouldn't classify that as either.

Anyway Ill drop buy.

 

[happy_tiger]

Jokes are usually something witty or clever.

Wouldn't classify that as either.

Anyway Ill drop buy.

Sure you will find a special of some description , look for Geo in the frozen section

 

[Tigermama]

Good point Chad.
There more to all this JT hate…. It's personal for some, some cannot get past him and Farah.... Wouldn't be surprised theres a magpie element to it also.
It's just waaay too overboard and illogical

Or maybe some people simply just don't think he's a particularly good coach.

A big part of being a good coach is having good communication skills.
In my opinion JT lacks that skill.

What is that based on?

From what I see, the team is responding to his defensive mantra.

Is it communicating to the media you are talking about?

Partly, amongst other things. The way he handled the Robbie fiasco is an example and the fact that the club brought in a mediator to talk to the boys and coach is another.
Also good communication between players and coach involves more then teaching them game plans.

 

[Tigermama]

And if we do come 15th and rightly sack him as you say..we employ another coach with great credentials, the team finishes 15th again and 15th the following year…do we sack him as well ????..

Yes we do. We have to get results. You can't keep coming 15th.

Yep i agree…it's finally working for Parramatta...they been doing it since 1986...

Lol Geo…Let's hope we don't have to wait that long :laughing:

 

[innsaneink]

Childish stuff from Ink and Happy

Questioning his age and Mental ability.

And you talk about making things personal against Taylor…

Oh the hypocrisy.

Why is it childish?
He comes across as a 16yo… And there are many teens on here.
It would explain a few things.
It's a simple question... Nothing childish about it
What is childish is his posts suggesting some think JT is perfect and should be signed for life if we keep coming 15th.
Your agenda is so transparent

 

[innsaneink]

Corey Parker said the Broncs try to limit sides to <16 points as they feel they have more than that in their attack each game. Im sure they could keep that even lower if they just concentrated on D but they also need to attack…Thats finding the balance that works. We haven't done this yet.

It's pretty simple actually. You need to score more points than you let in. People appear to be arguing against this and they need to go and work out what scoring more points means - it's a win. When you score less points it's a loss.

I know that this is groundbreaking news and it's going to be a surprise to some people but it's the truth and you can actually go and check it out over the course of rugby league history or in fact most sporting contests throughout history. Statistically you win basically 100% of games when you score more points than the opposition. It's amazing.

This argument has been pulled a number of times, but gives no credit to the ability of the opposition in defence. If you can defend and have a target of not allowing more than 16 points, then it is much easier to score 18 and win the game than it is to have to score 40 because you are conceding 38 every game.

Look at this
Common sense
Harvey knows what he's talkin bout

 

[Tigermama]

I don't think they do anything at training anymore…just eat pizza and drink beer and watch videos...

Or they could be super dooper sharp score 200 tries and let none in...in the opposed sessions...Taylor is responsible for that....

Come 5.30pm Sat.. means bugger all ...if they don't hold the football

Or if the halves don't play smart footy. :frowning:

 

[Tigermama]

Well to be honest I haven't seen a change in this team at all, season has gone alone like the last 3 or 4\. Encouraging wins at the start of season, losing a game they should win.
Look to be honest the next month of footy will be crucial. I would love to see a change but how long is it going to take???? And probably not with the roster that we have.

I blame it on being rewarded with beer, pizza and escorted to a flashy Goldcoast night club after our loss to the Titans. :mrgreen:
What other club does that. 😱pen_mouth: Lol…

 

[Eddie]

Corey Parker said the Broncs try to limit sides to <16 points as they feel they have more than that in their attack each game. Im sure they could keep that even lower if they just concentrated on D but they also need to attack…Thats finding the balance that works. We haven't done this yet.

It's pretty simple actually. You need to score more points than you let in. People appear to be arguing against this and they need to go and work out what scoring more points means - it's a win. When you score less points it's a loss.

I know that this is groundbreaking news and it's going to be a surprise to some people but it's the truth and you can actually go and check it out over the course of rugby league history or in fact most sporting contests throughout history. Statistically you win basically 100% of games when you score more points than the opposition. It's amazing.

This argument has been pulled a number of times, but gives no credit to the ability of the opposition in defence. If you can defend and have a target of not allowing more than 16 points, then it is much easier to score 18 and win the game than it is to have to score 40 because you are conceding 38 every game.

Look at this
Common sense
Harvey knows what he's talkin bout

I understand that common sense.

My common sense point is this…

All I was ever suggesting was I would rather win a game 40-30 then lose a game 10-0

Just answer me that question?

What would you rather this week against Cronulla

A 40-30 win or a 10-0 loss?

 

[happy_tiger]

It's pretty simple actually. You need to score more points than you let in. People appear to be arguing against this and they need to go and work out what scoring more points means - it's a win. When you score less points it's a loss.

I know that this is groundbreaking news and it's going to be a surprise to some people but it's the truth and you can actually go and check it out over the course of rugby league history or in fact most sporting contests throughout history. Statistically you win basically 100% of games when you score more points than the opposition. It's amazing.

This argument has been pulled a number of times, but gives no credit to the ability of the opposition in defence. If you can defend and have a target of not allowing more than 16 points, then it is much easier to score 18 and win the game than it is to have to score 40 because you are conceding 38 every game.

Look at this
Common sense
Harvey knows what he's talkin bout

I understand that common sense.

My common sense point is this…

All I was ever suggesting was I would rather win a game 40-30 then lose a game 10-0

Just answer me that question?

What would you rather this week against Cronulla

A 40-30 win or a 10-0 loss?

Why the extremes Eddie ??

Couldn't we just win 12-10 ??

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Strictly speaking I don't enjoy a try fest as usually means low standard of play or absolute brilliancy that does not come around regularly. Yes it is better to score 30 better than 10 but by losing 30 you are also losing respect and showing glaring weaknesses. Losing by 8 the other day did not expose any weaknesses in defence, those in attack are easier to remedy.

 

[Tigermama]

We all want the team to win.
As for me personally, it doesn't matter if it's our defence,attack, or a good combination of both, that gets us the win.
I usually have a smile on my face for days, after a WT win. :smiley:

 

[cktiger]

Childish stuff from Ink and Happy

Questioning his age and Mental ability.

And you talk about making things personal against Taylor…

Oh the hypocrisy.

Why is it childish?
He comes across as a 16yo… And there are many teens on here.
It would explain a few things.
It's a simple question... Nothing childish about it
What is childish is his posts suggesting some think JT is perfect and should be signed for life if we keep coming 15th.
Your agenda is so transparent

That's a pretty weak excuse Ink.
You and Happy both stepped over the line and made it personal.
Even if he is 16 does that makes you so superior and he has no right to an opinion?
You are basically telling all the young fans on here that their input is worthless.
Even worse, what if he actually did have a mental disability - how would you feel then?
If you know the guy well enough personally it's fine to have a shot at him - if not then best to just defend your opinion without attacking the poster.