Holden Debacle

[Cultured_Bogan]

The Australian car industry died the day Peter Brock came up with the polariser. Can't believe that people thought a crystal and some magnets dipped in resin and put in a box actually make their car perform better...

 

[Dyloh]

The Australian car industry died the day Peter Brock came up with the polariser. Can't believe that people thought a crystal and some magnets dipped in resin and put in a box actually make their car perform better...

Just had a bit of a read because I hadn't heard of that before, what a bunch of crackpots.....

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

The Australian car industry died the day Peter Brock came up with the polariser. Can't believe that people thought a crystal and some magnets dipped in resin and put in a box actually make their car perform better...

Just had a bit of a read because I hadn't heard of that before, what a bunch of crackpots.....

It "aligned the molecules" of the car which improved fuel efficiency which I think was his claim.

Could drive, but was an absolute nutcase.

 

[jadtiger]

The Australian car industry died the day Peter Brock came up with the polariser. Can't believe that people thought a crystal and some magnets dipped in resin and put in a box actually make their car perform better...

Just had a bit of a read because I hadn't heard of that before, what a bunch of crackpots.....

It "aligned the molecules" of the car which improved fuel efficiency which I think was his claim.

Could drive, but was an absolute nutcase.

There are very few "Einsteins" in sport,many can barely put 4 words together in any coherant form

 

[twentyforty]

The Australian car industry died the day Peter Brock came up with the polariser. Can't believe that people thought a crystal and some magnets dipped in resin and put in a box actually make their car perform better...

Wow! What a story?! Thanks for posting that @Cultured_Bogan .
Like me many people would not be aware of Brocky’s ‘winged keel’ as I call it. The difference being the winged keel had a function.
Here’s a footer from the Gizmodo article.

“This popularity actually made Holden themselves sell a car with an all-new Energy Polarizer in 2011. The HDT VE-VL Heritage Edition Commodore is equipped with a special body kit, Peter Brock’s signature, and a box full of New Age bullshit that Holden is now happy to install on their cars, fully aware that it does precisely nothing.

Well, nothing except use incredible orgone energy to stimulate the nostalgia centres of people’s brains to make them spend money on a box of rocks, tinfoil, and glue screwed into their car’s engine compartment.

I’m pretty sure that makes Holden the only automaker ever to officially sell a car with a component that allegedly works with orgone energy, or crystals, or “molecular alignment.”

It looks like Peter Brock won in the end, after all.”

 

[tiger_one]

Heavily discounted holdens soon - any takers!?!?

 

[TCL]

Let me see if I understand this?
A business closes the doors because it fails to turn a profit after being propped up by taxpayers.
The business slams the door and blames its customers for the failure.
A significant number of those customers believe they are to blame?
I’m missing the kicker here?!

Yeah ... Holden fans don’t drive Holden's !

Actually this is not about Holden or Ford, its about production in Australia. Every country that produces cars receives subsidy from their respective governments. There is a reason for this - in years gone by should war arise manufacturing companies would join the effort and build machines of war, also the motor manufacturing industry is also great for innovation from a technology and production point.

Ford were worse than GM, Ford would not allow Aussie made cars to be sold outside of Australia. Ford USA believed that the best car Ford made world wide was the Territory however, they would not allow it to be sold in america because out wasn't designed in America or anywhere else for that matter. GM on the other hand had no objection and intact the VE was a doing well exporting cars around the world including the middle east and the USA.

Fords (6th by brand) sales numbers were actually worse than Holden's (4th) in 2017 and if it wasn't for the Ranger, Ford's numbers would have been worse, so it wasn't just Holden people not buying Holden's it was actually Australians not buying Australian made vehicles. For the record in 2017 Toyota were No 1, followed by Mazda (2nd) and Hyundai (3rd), even mitsubishi moved more vehicles than Ford 20174.

 

[TCL]

The Australian car industry died the day Peter Brock came up with the polariser. Can't believe that people thought a crystal and some magnets dipped in resin and put in a box actually make their car perform better...

Brock was out of control during that period. Holden dropped him as a result.

 

[hobbo1]

Let me see if I understand this?
A business closes the doors because it fails to turn a profit after being propped up by taxpayers.
The business slams the door and blames its customers for the failure.
A significant number of those customers believe they are to blame?
I’m missing the kicker here?!

Yeah ... Holden fans don’t drive Holden's !

Actually this is not about Holden or Ford, its about production in Australia. Every country that produces cars receives subsidy from their respective governments. There is a reason for this - in years gone by should war arise manufacturing companies would join the effort and build machines of war, also the motor manufacturing industry is also great for innovation from a technology and production point.

Ford were worse than GM, Ford would not allow Aussie made cars to be sold outside of Australia. Ford USA believed that the best car Ford made world wide was the Territory however, they would not allow it to be sold in america because out wasn't designed in America or anywhere else for that matter. GM on the other hand had no objection and intact the VE was a doing well exporting cars around the world including the middle east and the USA.

Fords (6th by brand) sales numbers were actually worse than Holden's (4th) in 2017 and if it wasn't for the Ranger, Ford's numbers would have been worse, so it wasn't just Holden people not buying Holden's it was actually Australians not buying Australian made vehicles. For the record in 2017 Toyota were No 1, followed by Mazda (2nd) and Hyundai (3rd), even mitsubishi moved more vehicles than Ford 20174.

Did you know that the thickness of the hilux tailgate is the perfect width to mount a machine gun !
I have a hilux ( machine of war) ..preferred car for terrorists the world over .

 

[Geo]


 

[hobbo1]


 

[TCL]

Let me see if I understand this?
A business closes the doors because it fails to turn a profit after being propped up by taxpayers.
The business slams the door and blames its customers for the failure.
A significant number of those customers believe they are to blame?
I’m missing the kicker here?!

Yeah ... Holden fans don’t drive Holden's !

Actually this is not about Holden or Ford, its about production in Australia. Every country that produces cars receives subsidy from their respective governments. There is a reason for this - in years gone by should war arise manufacturing companies would join the effort and build machines of war, also the motor manufacturing industry is also great for innovation from a technology and production point.

Ford were worse than GM, Ford would not allow Aussie made cars to be sold outside of Australia. Ford USA believed that the best car Ford made world wide was the Territory however, they would not allow it to be sold in america because out wasn't designed in America or anywhere else for that matter. GM on the other hand had no objection and intact the VE was a doing well exporting cars around the world including the middle east and the USA.

Fords (6th by brand) sales numbers were actually worse than Holden's (4th) in 2017 and if it wasn't for the Ranger, Ford's numbers would have been worse, so it wasn't just Holden people not buying Holden's it was actually Australians not buying Australian made vehicles. For the record in 2017 Toyota were No 1, followed by Mazda (2nd) and Hyundai (3rd), even mitsubishi moved more vehicles than Ford 20174.

Did you know that the thickness of the hilux tailgate is the perfect width to mount a machine gun !
I have a hilux ( machine of war) ..preferred car for terrorists the world over .

I didn't know that and its concerning that you do. :flushed:

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Let me see if I understand this?
A business closes the doors because it fails to turn a profit after being propped up by taxpayers.
The business slams the door and blames its customers for the failure.
A significant number of those customers believe they are to blame?
I’m missing the kicker here?!

Yeah ... Holden fans don’t drive Holden's !

Actually this is not about Holden or Ford, its about production in Australia. Every country that produces cars receives subsidy from their respective governments. There is a reason for this - in years gone by should war arise manufacturing companies would join the effort and build machines of war, also the motor manufacturing industry is also great for innovation from a technology and production point.

Ford were worse than GM, Ford would not allow Aussie made cars to be sold outside of Australia. Ford USA believed that the best car Ford made world wide was the Territory however, they would not allow it to be sold in america because out wasn't designed in America or anywhere else for that matter. GM on the other hand had no objection and intact the VE was a doing well exporting cars around the world including the middle east and the USA.

Fords (6th by brand) sales numbers were actually worse than Holden's (4th) in 2017 and if it wasn't for the Ranger, Ford's numbers would have been worse, so it wasn't just Holden people not buying Holden's it was actually Australians not buying Australian made vehicles. For the record in 2017 Toyota were No 1, followed by Mazda (2nd) and Hyundai (3rd), even mitsubishi moved more vehicles than Ford 20174.

Did you know that the thickness of the hilux tailgate is the perfect width to mount a machine gun !
I have a hilux ( machine of war) ..preferred car for terrorists the world over .

I didn't know that and its concerning that you do. :flushed:

I think Hobbo was referring to that image of the ISIS combatants driving virtually new Hiluxes.

 

[Demps]

Holden....together by tape.

 

[hobbo1]

Let me see if I understand this?
A business closes the doors because it fails to turn a profit after being propped up by taxpayers.
The business slams the door and blames its customers for the failure.
A significant number of those customers believe they are to blame?
I’m missing the kicker here?!

Yeah ... Holden fans don’t drive Holden's !

Actually this is not about Holden or Ford, its about production in Australia. Every country that produces cars receives subsidy from their respective governments. There is a reason for this - in years gone by should war arise manufacturing companies would join the effort and build machines of war, also the motor manufacturing industry is also great for innovation from a technology and production point.

Ford were worse than GM, Ford would not allow Aussie made cars to be sold outside of Australia. Ford USA believed that the best car Ford made world wide was the Territory however, they would not allow it to be sold in america because out wasn't designed in America or anywhere else for that matter. GM on the other hand had no objection and intact the VE was a doing well exporting cars around the world including the middle east and the USA.

Fords (6th by brand) sales numbers were actually worse than Holden's (4th) in 2017 and if it wasn't for the Ranger, Ford's numbers would have been worse, so it wasn't just Holden people not buying Holden's it was actually Australians not buying Australian made vehicles. For the record in 2017 Toyota were No 1, followed by Mazda (2nd) and Hyundai (3rd), even mitsubishi moved more vehicles than Ford 20174.

Did you know that the thickness of the hilux tailgate is the perfect width to mount a machine gun !
I have a hilux ( machine of war) ..preferred car for terrorists the world over .

I didn't know that and its concerning that you do. :flushed:

I think Hobbo was referring to that image of the ISIS combatants driving virtually new Hiluxes.

That ... plus there was an interview with ISIS a few years back and they were showing how the hilux’s tailgate width is the perfect size !

 

[TCL]

Let me see if I understand this?
A business closes the doors because it fails to turn a profit after being propped up by taxpayers.
The business slams the door and blames its customers for the failure.
A significant number of those customers believe they are to blame?
I’m missing the kicker here?!

Yeah ... Holden fans don’t drive Holden's !

Actually this is not about Holden or Ford, its about production in Australia. Every country that produces cars receives subsidy from their respective governments. There is a reason for this - in years gone by should war arise manufacturing companies would join the effort and build machines of war, also the motor manufacturing industry is also great for innovation from a technology and production point.

Ford were worse than GM, Ford would not allow Aussie made cars to be sold outside of Australia. Ford USA believed that the best car Ford made world wide was the Territory however, they would not allow it to be sold in america because out wasn't designed in America or anywhere else for that matter. GM on the other hand had no objection and intact the VE was a doing well exporting cars around the world including the middle east and the USA.

Fords (6th by brand) sales numbers were actually worse than Holden's (4th) in 2017 and if it wasn't for the Ranger, Ford's numbers would have been worse, so it wasn't just Holden people not buying Holden's it was actually Australians not buying Australian made vehicles. For the record in 2017 Toyota were No 1, followed by Mazda (2nd) and Hyundai (3rd), even mitsubishi moved more vehicles than Ford 20174.

Did you know that the thickness of the hilux tailgate is the perfect width to mount a machine gun !
I have a hilux ( machine of war) ..preferred car for terrorists the world over .

I didn't know that and its concerning that you do. :flushed:

I think Hobbo was referring to that image of the ISIS combatants driving virtually new Hiluxes.

That ... plus there was an interview with ISIS a few years back and they were showing how the hilux’s tailgate width is the perfect size !

The Japanese think of everything don't they.

 

[hobbo1]

Let me see if I understand this?
A business closes the doors because it fails to turn a profit after being propped up by taxpayers.
The business slams the door and blames its customers for the failure.
A significant number of those customers believe they are to blame?
I’m missing the kicker here?!

Yeah ... Holden fans don’t drive Holden's !

Actually this is not about Holden or Ford, its about production in Australia. Every country that produces cars receives subsidy from their respective governments. There is a reason for this - in years gone by should war arise manufacturing companies would join the effort and build machines of war, also the motor manufacturing industry is also great for innovation from a technology and production point.

Ford were worse than GM, Ford would not allow Aussie made cars to be sold outside of Australia. Ford USA believed that the best car Ford made world wide was the Territory however, they would not allow it to be sold in america because out wasn't designed in America or anywhere else for that matter. GM on the other hand had no objection and intact the VE was a doing well exporting cars around the world including the middle east and the USA.

Fords (6th by brand) sales numbers were actually worse than Holden's (4th) in 2017 and if it wasn't for the Ranger, Ford's numbers would have been worse, so it wasn't just Holden people not buying Holden's it was actually Australians not buying Australian made vehicles. For the record in 2017 Toyota were No 1, followed by Mazda (2nd) and Hyundai (3rd), even mitsubishi moved more vehicles than Ford 20174.

Did you know that the thickness of the hilux tailgate is the perfect width to mount a machine gun !
I have a hilux ( machine of war) ..preferred car for terrorists the world over .

I didn't know that and its concerning that you do. :flushed:

I think Hobbo was referring to that image of the ISIS combatants driving virtually new Hiluxes.

That ... plus there was an interview with ISIS a few years back and they were showing how the hilux’s tailgate width is the perfect size !

The Japanese think of everything don't they.

They sure do

 

[hobbo1]


 

[hobbo1]


 

[Demps]


This from a Honda Civic driver. My niece has one of those!

?‍♂️
Civics are sweet.