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diedpretty
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Really - i didn't know that - we will never play with the big boys until this stupidity ends.
gallagher
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That's disappointing then.
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I have 6 memberships at ANZ and had them from the start to be honest if nothing changes next season our family has decided to opt out .This club has to realise that the formula they have is NOT working and to be frank becoming a farce with 6 home grounds .
The supporter base is still divided and still being pandered to by the club ,the team can not lift to the next level even to make a final series, the philosophy of our club has to change .
innsaneink
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Yeah, I rememeber hearing that being a bit disappointed
Playing out of WSS just confuses our identity.
We will be effectively renting Parramatta's home ground smack bang in the middle of their local district, fan base area, and where all their infastructue is. The area will never welcome or accept us being anything other than infiltrators which is not conducive to how a home ground relates to a fan base.
There is nothing there that mildly relates to our club and the only positive is that it offers a brand new stadium to play from.
It is fraught with danger if the team is not successful.
Ideally playing out of one home ground is the way forward but I can understand the clubs reluctance to make it at a stadium that historically and going into the future is effectively the home ground of one Sydneys strongest clubs and our rival.
It may be seen as a solution by some but it is far from ideal and if I was in control I would certainly not be entering into anything longterm at WSS.
We will be effectively renting Parramatta's home ground smack bang in the middle of their local district, fan base area, and where all their infastructue is. The area will never welcome or accept us being anything other than infiltrators which is not conducive to how a home ground relates to a fan base.
There is nothing there that mildly relates to our club and the only positive is that it offers a brand new stadium to play from.
It is fraught with danger if the team is not successful.
Ideally playing out of one home ground is the way forward but I can understand the clubs reluctance to make it at a stadium that historically and going into the future is effectively the home ground of one Sydneys strongest clubs and our rival.
It may be seen as a solution by some but it is far from ideal and if I was in control I would certainly not be entering into anything longterm at WSS.
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The access is not a problem, but there is never ever going to be any mistake about who the community support is associated with within that area. Its situated beside its leagues club and business district - it is and always will be aligned with Parramatta.
And why I appreciate the facility will be great to play at, it is not ideal for our identity as a home ground when it will always stink of Parramatta, and rightly so.
One home ground is the ideal absolutely agree, but our club will only ever be considered as visitors at what will be referred to as Parra Stadium and I cant see how that is going to strengthen our identity in some ways it just confuses it. If it was a neutral ground that both teams shared totally different situation but it is a rebuild of Parramatta stadium no matter what they rename it.
May be considered a negative view but just my opinion. I can appreciate that it is a very difficult decision for the club to committ to.
gallagher
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I think we are in the fortunate position that we have fans all over the Sydney metro area. Clubs like Cronulla and Manly are restricted to one little area and could be their downfall eventuallly.We actually have the pulling power to become a powerhouse.
Growing up and living in the Parra, Hills and Wenty areas I can tell you we have a large supporter base in that area.
The best way to get more fans to games is to make it more value for money.
$100+ for my large family vs gathering around the TV with half the $ worth of junk food…
Ps. Anyone notice that there are fewer and fewer young Tigers fans in the crowd.
$100+ for my large family vs gathering around the TV with half the $ worth of junk food…
Ps. Anyone notice that there are fewer and fewer young Tigers fans in the crowd.
Telltails, I agree that it is not ideal - I certainly have reservations about playing in Parramatta due to the points you have raised. However I think it is the best option for the next couple of years until ANZ is redone. The new ANZ design will supposedly make it so that even smaller crowds will have more of an atmosphere, and obviously fans will be closer to the action with a rectangular field.
What we should not do is continue to be nomads with 5 different home grounds.
What we should not do is continue to be nomads with 5 different home grounds.
Should really be aiming for a 10/1/1 split with one of the larger grounds.
As much as I don't like the idea of sharing a ground WSS makes good sense as it's somewhere between, sits in Western Sydney and is still somewhat close to the backer that pays the bills in Ashfield.
10 at ANZ/WSS
1 at LO, should be negotiated as a Souths game, or Easts if we don't get a home game against Souths.
1 at CSS, should be negotiated as a Manly game, or St. George if we don't get a home game against Manly.
Should be still trying to keep some of the history alive of the former clubs through their respective venues. One game is enough IMO.
We should really be looking to try to make Liverpool or Fairfield our home long term though.
As much as I don't like the idea of sharing a ground WSS makes good sense as it's somewhere between, sits in Western Sydney and is still somewhat close to the backer that pays the bills in Ashfield.
10 at ANZ/WSS
1 at LO, should be negotiated as a Souths game, or Easts if we don't get a home game against Souths.
1 at CSS, should be negotiated as a Manly game, or St. George if we don't get a home game against Manly.
Should be still trying to keep some of the history alive of the former clubs through their respective venues. One game is enough IMO.
We should really be looking to try to make Liverpool or Fairfield our home long term though.
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I dont know when ANZ will be reworked but feel its a much better fit for us, apart from having our own modern facility.
Going forward realise we need to base ourselves somewhere, just not at a ground that is clearly home to Parramatta.
As an interim I will cop it, but as a long term proposition cant accept that it does anything toward strengthening our identity, just makes us easier to dispose of.
The ground itself looks fantastic so no problem with that.
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Anz is located right in the Parramattas fan base the whole area is full of Parra supporters that is fact it is in the Parramatta council area for god sake ! ,I just do not understand the reasoning why one club owns the new stadium …it is the tax payers of NSW that own it .what you say about it being a certain clubs stadium was correct in the era before the eighties when there were three grades on game day ...these days you get one game and your are out of there it is the in and out culture .WSS represents who ever will be at home on game day that’s it nothing more nothing less .
jirskyr
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I fail to see how ANZ stadium is less in the middle of Sydney than New Parramatta stadium is.
I agree with TT - it would be a very hard pill to swallow, walking to home games through the heartland of the Parramatta club, with Parra businesses, Parra CBD, Parra Leagues around the corner and on the tail-end of the Parramatta river.
At least Homebush is in somewhat neutral ground (actually technically falls within the Balmain JR catchment).
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We could play out of any staduim in Sydney and attract a crowd if we are winning no problem.
But when you are talking about identity and Parra Stadium - there is only one NRL side that identifies with that stadium and it isnt us and never will be. For that reason it cant be a long term solution IMO.
I believe the stadium will not be skewed towards the Eels.
i.e. Western Sydney Stadium and not Parramatta Stadium - at least until it coverts to a corporate name.
No Mick Cronin stands etc.
Only real negatives I can see are location (not for me) and being close to Eels Leagues Club. They could always run buses to Ashfield after the game if it was financially viable.
I am sure they will end up there whilst ANZ is redeveloped anyway - so that would be a good trial period.
i.e. Western Sydney Stadium and not Parramatta Stadium - at least until it coverts to a corporate name.
No Mick Cronin stands etc.
Only real negatives I can see are location (not for me) and being close to Eels Leagues Club. They could always run buses to Ashfield after the game if it was financially viable.
I am sure they will end up there whilst ANZ is redeveloped anyway - so that would be a good trial period.
gallagher
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I can just see them stuffing up Homebush and it not being any better than what it is now.
Either or though. Just as long as we get one home ground.
Either or though. Just as long as we get one home ground.
