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Kerry_Cogger
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Ummm….Cochise meet roosters salary cap.Also sy hi to NRL draw scheduling.
Ummm….Cochise meet roosters salary cap.Also sy hi to NRL draw scheduling.
Chicken_Faced_Killa
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You do realise the Broncos have a total of 5 Friday night games this year. In years gone by when 9 decided the draw they got a heap of Friday nights but not this year.
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Kerry_Cogger
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And you do realise all others have been Thursday night except two games.Hmmmm when origins on the Wednesday night..All of a sudden their massive need for Brisbane on a Thursday/Friday night has gone walkies.Hmmm very convenient.
Cant have those poor little Bwoncos on a 2 day backup but they sure as hell can make sure the team travelling interstate has a short back up week in week out.
Chicken_Faced_Killa
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They have 11 Saturday and Sunday games this year.
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Kerry_Cogger
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I am not gonna argue with you thread after thread you aint playin the thread you are playin the man.
cochise
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The Broncos getting most Friday night games has nothing to do with rigging the draw, it is all about maximising rating in Qld. I still think it is wrong but to say they are doing because they are rigging the comp is tin foil hat thinking.
The Roosters use third party agreements to extend their cap, I personally do not know their is much the NRL can do about those as do not personally believe we should be limiting what players can earn through endorsements.
supercoach
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No let the players earn what they can, but the NRL has to come up with a system that gives every club the same level field to play on. I have suggested in the past that every player is given a points ranking and each team is restricted to x amount of points. Okay thats just one way, I am sure there are others.
At present the salary cap is killing the teams it was aimed to protect, because to attract players to certain teams you have to offer massive overs and still your only going to get players at least one tier down from the top. So at the end of the day you are not going to be able to get enough quality into roster. Developing juniors is a dangerous path to take because the likes of the Chooks are just going to get them when they are ripe for the picking.
Anyway we have been through this a million times, but the game will die very quickly if it keeps going the way it is
cochise
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I don't mind the idea of a point system, there would be a lot of questions to be answered before it could ever be implemented though, but that is not really the point of this discussion. The salary cap was put forward as an example of the NRL rigging the competition and that is just not true.
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joelw2002
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Hop in the forums of the Raiders, Eels, Titans, Bulldogs, Knights, Cowboys, etc. And get as many people as we can and start a riot…
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I somewhat agree. The competition is not rigged, but there are a number of biases that favour particular teams. For example, the desire for strong tv ratings results in the broncos getting more free to air games (and thus exposure for sponsors) than other teams. Third party agreements favour teams with strong business connections (eg broncos, roosters). Referees giving teams catch up penalties or Billy Slater winning player of the series are other examples of ridiculous bias in our game. Even the judiciary is insanely inconsistent… they seem to come down harsh on “no-name” players or high profile cases (eg Sam Burgess elbow to Morris), whereas when a media darling is up for suspension ahead of an origin game, they find a way to exonerate him.
Agendas, unconscious bias, money, and a bunch of other factors have resulted in a number of inconsistencies that advantage some people/clubs over others. There is no overarching conspiracy to fix games though.
cochise
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I think this is a very accurate post and think it is something that happens throughout the world of sport, in the NFL many people believe that the bigger market teams get a better rub of the green in these same sorts of situations that you have pointed out. The AFL openly give advantages to teams in new markets.
I do disagree with the post you quoted saying that games are manipulated by refs to get a desired outcome, that would be out and out cheating and I honestly believe that is not occurring. There are however a number of aspects that can subconsciously have an impact on a referee, things such as home crowds, position on the ladder, perception of a team, team and player history can all influence a ref when making a decision. This is not cheating, just poor refereeing.
innsaneink
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That's because you have no valid argument… You're posting crap and being called out on it and now running away
You're all talk no substance :blah
Put up valid arguments and you'll get respect here... Post conspiracy theory garbage and someone will take the time to expose your words for what they are.
Rubbish
Souff;s lost so must be a double rope-a-dope…NRL want the Pride of the League there but don't want the 8 settled this far out...
Must have been a tough decision or the tin foil slipped at NRL HQ this week..
Rigged..
Must have been a tough decision or the tin foil slipped at NRL HQ this week..
Rigged..
Chicken_Faced_Killa
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The NRL big wigs just read this thread and thought ‘oh they’re onto us better tweak the script a little’
Chicken_Faced_Killa
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If you were the NRL and wanted to rig the comp what would be the best top 8.
I’d say
Melbourne - still a developing market
Brisbane - big QLD club
Gold Coast - chance to establish a rivalry with Brisbane and get people on the coast interested - blow the Suns away.
Newcastle - big league town would be great for the game.
New Zealand - great for the game over there and will bring the expats out of the woodwork.
Then 3 of Wests/Souths/St. George/ Parra - probably the biggest Sydney clubs.
That top 8 would make the finals massive and crowds would surge.
I’d say
Melbourne - still a developing market
Brisbane - big QLD club
Gold Coast - chance to establish a rivalry with Brisbane and get people on the coast interested - blow the Suns away.
Newcastle - big league town would be great for the game.
New Zealand - great for the game over there and will bring the expats out of the woodwork.
Then 3 of Wests/Souths/St. George/ Parra - probably the biggest Sydney clubs.
That top 8 would make the finals massive and crowds would surge.
happy_tiger
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Can I please remind all that neither the Titans or Cowboys want Friday night games
This is half the reason why Brisbane get Friday Night games
The other is simple , they draw big crowds week in week out
Heard someone whinging about all the Broncos playing SOO , with Gillett injured , they had what 2-3 players McCullough , Oates and Milf from memory
I hate the Broncs as much as the next bloke , hurt them by getting a strong 2nd side in Brisbane asap , forget the Friday Night argument , it is ridiculous , if Sydney based sides showed up with 20 K + crowds every week things would change , trust me
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Oh! you mean stuff like - the pass is two metres forward but it is a team that is second on the ladder, playing a team that is fourteenth on the ladder so it must not be a forward pass. I can see how that can subconsciously come into the referees mind.
No that wouldn't be bias or manipulating the result. Just unfortunate or the line - it will even up in the second half. Sure.
