If Madge fails.....

[Cairnstigers]

I think it’s about time we heard from Lee and other board members showing some solidarity and support of Madge.

What like Madge has the full support of the board? If that happens it’s the beginning of the end for Madge.

It’s not needed or required and I certainly wouldn’t want to hear those words.

If the board gets involved publicly then there is a serious issue beyond the scope of the coach and it’s bye bye Madge.


Ha ha, Mike, I see your point, but there are many other ways board members can publicly display solidarity without using that cliche which means the door is now open. Ha ha.
It’s very important that the players are aware that player management and board are as one. We’ve all seen cases where the players perform badly to influence the boards view of the coaching roster. Some players find the training too hard etc.

The board should not be seen or heard . Honestly do you hear about the roosters board , lately and only very lately we have heard anything from Politis

As for board showing some support , you are overdramatising the situation . Yes bad result and bad season , fixing up a club takes time , getting into the 8 is great but no use if it’s not sutainable .

As much as I hate quoting Phil Gould , as he is mr 20/20 hindsight and mostly full of it he has made good points too and that is
- it takes. Coach / board to ruin a club with 12-18 months BUT takes. Coach / board 5 years to fix it .
Look at the mess dib/ des created In the end at dogs , 3 years and still trying to get out of it , but that board has a plan and they have not been falling for stupid media pressure for them to fix it, I guarantee dogs will be a force in 2 years .

Now with madge, it’s his 2nd year it takes time , you can see he is building up the young and junior base, trying to install a culture this all takes time. It’s not a quick fix , board has not panicked and madge does not seem to be panicking .

This is why the board “showing support” will have opposite affect and cause more dramas and the same old same old as past 10years will happen at the tigers

Not so much as a statement from the board saying "we are behind madge 100%", more so a show of support by extending his contract. He is the right man for the job. Give him 10yrs for all I care. Which other coach out there screams results for us besides Bellamy? Maybe Robinson? We wouldn't get him anyway. Madge is our coach at least for the next 5yrs.

Agree extend him 2 years

Yes i would be ok with that
Madge needs a little leeway so he can get rid of
Reynolds
McQueen
MCK
Lawrence
Marshall
Packer ?
At the least
And probably try and get an upgrade on Brooks
I don't think Madge should re sign any of those listed
We need to move on
I don't care if it appears no one better is available
We should be giving opportunities to some new blood
I am tired of loosing games with the same old players that don't perform
Move on and find someone new
Offer Brandon smith $800,000 to $850,000
Offer Munster $1,200,000
Offer TPJ $750,000
Offer ADDO-CARR $550,000
Offer Johnston $550,000
We won't get all but these players are an upgrade on any of ours
Otherwise sign the very best juniors looking for an opportunity
Anything less then that is a complete waste of time IMO
I know Geo will support Munster and maybe he should be our No1 target
Just dont waste money on crap
Get players that will make a difference

 

[avocadoontoast]

I think it’s about time we heard from Lee and other board members showing some solidarity and support of Madge.

What like Madge has the full support of the board? If that happens it’s the beginning of the end for Madge.

It’s not needed or required and I certainly wouldn’t want to hear those words.

If the board gets involved publicly then there is a serious issue beyond the scope of the coach and it’s bye bye Madge.


Ha ha, Mike, I see your point, but there are many other ways board members can publicly display solidarity without using that cliche which means the door is now open. Ha ha.
It’s very important that the players are aware that player management and board are as one. We’ve all seen cases where the players perform badly to influence the boards view of the coaching roster. Some players find the training too hard etc.

The board should not be seen or heard . Honestly do you hear about the roosters board , lately and only very lately we have heard anything from Politis

As for board showing some support , you are overdramatising the situation . Yes bad result and bad season , fixing up a club takes time , getting into the 8 is great but no use if it’s not sutainable .

As much as I hate quoting Phil Gould , as he is mr 20/20 hindsight and mostly full of it he has made good points too and that is
- it takes. Coach / board to ruin a club with 12-18 months BUT takes. Coach / board 5 years to fix it .
Look at the mess dib/ des created In the end at dogs , 3 years and still trying to get out of it , but that board has a plan and they have not been falling for stupid media pressure for them to fix it, I guarantee dogs will be a force in 2 years .

Now with madge, it’s his 2nd year it takes time , you can see he is building up the young and junior base, trying to install a culture this all takes time. It’s not a quick fix , board has not panicked and madge does not seem to be panicking .

This is why the board “showing support” will have opposite affect and cause more dramas and the same old same old as past 10years will happen at the tigers

Not so much as a statement from the board saying "we are behind madge 100%", more so a show of support by extending his contract. He is the right man for the job. Give him 10yrs for all I care. Which other coach out there screams results for us besides Bellamy? Maybe Robinson? We wouldn't get him anyway. Madge is our coach at least for the next 5yrs.

Agree extend him 2 years

Yes i would be ok with that
Madge needs a little leeway so he can get rid of
Reynolds
McQueen
MCK
Lawrence
Marshall
Packer ?
At the least
And probably try and get an upgrade on Brooks
I don't think Madge should re sign any of those listed
We need to move on
I don't care if it appears no one better is available
We should be giving opportunities to some new blood
I am tired of loosing games with the same old players that don't perform
Move on and find someone new
Offer Brandon smith $800,000 to $850,000
Offer Munster $1,200,000
Offer TPJ $750,000
Offer ADDO-CARR $550,000
Offer Johnston $550,000
We won't get all but these players are an upgrade on any of ours
Otherwise sign the very best juniors looking for an opportunity
Anything less then that is a complete waste of time IMO
I know Geo will support Munster and maybe he should be our No1 target
Just dont waste money on crap
Get players that will make a difference

Chee Kam, Lawrence and Marshall were all re-signed by Madge.

 

[PJ_]

I believe Madge will win us a premiership in the next 3 years.
Mods please book mark post haha I'm pretty confident

Is that a trick statement
Is that a premiership in the nrl or are we moving our team to the superleague where we would be more competitive

Haha.
Got that loving feeling?????

 

[Geo]

I think it’s about time we heard from Lee and other board members showing some solidarity and support of Madge.

What like Madge has the full support of the board? If that happens it’s the beginning of the end for Madge.

It’s not needed or required and I certainly wouldn’t want to hear those words.

If the board gets involved publicly then there is a serious issue beyond the scope of the coach and it’s bye bye Madge.


Ha ha, Mike, I see your point, but there are many other ways board members can publicly display solidarity without using that cliche which means the door is now open. Ha ha.
It’s very important that the players are aware that player management and board are as one. We’ve all seen cases where the players perform badly to influence the boards view of the coaching roster. Some players find the training too hard etc.

The board should not be seen or heard . Honestly do you hear about the roosters board , lately and only very lately we have heard anything from Politis

As for board showing some support , you are overdramatising the situation . Yes bad result and bad season , fixing up a club takes time , getting into the 8 is great but no use if it’s not sutainable .

As much as I hate quoting Phil Gould , as he is mr 20/20 hindsight and mostly full of it he has made good points too and that is
- it takes. Coach / board to ruin a club with 12-18 months BUT takes. Coach / board 5 years to fix it .
Look at the mess dib/ des created In the end at dogs , 3 years and still trying to get out of it , but that board has a plan and they have not been falling for stupid media pressure for them to fix it, I guarantee dogs will be a force in 2 years .

Now with madge, it’s his 2nd year it takes time , you can see he is building up the young and junior base, trying to install a culture this all takes time. It’s not a quick fix , board has not panicked and madge does not seem to be panicking .

This is why the board “showing support” will have opposite affect and cause more dramas and the same old same old as past 10years will happen at the tigers

Hopefully the board show some resolve if and when the media pressure gets applied to Madge.


Media article today stated Madge will not stay beyond 21.

Where was that?


The roar article written by placepunter
“Why Harry Grant must not stay with Wests Tigers“
I pretty much disagree with the entire article but you know how this stuff can gather pace Avo.

I wouldn’t put too much stock in roar articles.

Anyway if he goes he goes, who cares really

That was an opinion piece based on zilch current information and with no link to the club. No credibilty should be given to it unless you have an issue with Maguire.

That is why I said I wouldn’t put too much stock in roar articles

When did the Roar become Media..?

 

[avocadoontoast]

I think it’s about time we heard from Lee and other board members showing some solidarity and support of Madge.

What like Madge has the full support of the board? If that happens it’s the beginning of the end for Madge.

It’s not needed or required and I certainly wouldn’t want to hear those words.

If the board gets involved publicly then there is a serious issue beyond the scope of the coach and it’s bye bye Madge.


Ha ha, Mike, I see your point, but there are many other ways board members can publicly display solidarity without using that cliche which means the door is now open. Ha ha.
It’s very important that the players are aware that player management and board are as one. We’ve all seen cases where the players perform badly to influence the boards view of the coaching roster. Some players find the training too hard etc.

The board should not be seen or heard . Honestly do you hear about the roosters board , lately and only very lately we have heard anything from Politis

As for board showing some support , you are overdramatising the situation . Yes bad result and bad season , fixing up a club takes time , getting into the 8 is great but no use if it’s not sutainable .

As much as I hate quoting Phil Gould , as he is mr 20/20 hindsight and mostly full of it he has made good points too and that is
- it takes. Coach / board to ruin a club with 12-18 months BUT takes. Coach / board 5 years to fix it .
Look at the mess dib/ des created In the end at dogs , 3 years and still trying to get out of it , but that board has a plan and they have not been falling for stupid media pressure for them to fix it, I guarantee dogs will be a force in 2 years .

Now with madge, it’s his 2nd year it takes time , you can see he is building up the young and junior base, trying to install a culture this all takes time. It’s not a quick fix , board has not panicked and madge does not seem to be panicking .

This is why the board “showing support” will have opposite affect and cause more dramas and the same old same old as past 10years will happen at the tigers

Hopefully the board show some resolve if and when the media pressure gets applied to Madge.


Media article today stated Madge will not stay beyond 21.

Where was that?


The roar article written by placepunter
“Why Harry Grant must not stay with Wests Tigers“
I pretty much disagree with the entire article but you know how this stuff can gather pace Avo.

I wouldn’t put too much stock in roar articles.

Anyway if he goes he goes, who cares really

That was an opinion piece based on zilch current information and with no link to the club. No credibilty should be given to it unless you have an issue with Maguire.

That is why I said I wouldn’t put too much stock in roar articles

When did the Roar become Media..?

?‍♂️

 

[hobbo1]

If Madge can't fix us no one can. We can't take much more of this.

When he was giving them the spray at half time they looked like they’d clocked off... not a good sign.

How many sprays can a grown man take ?
I woulda told him to get ......

How many pathetic performances can a coach take before he gives his player a spray

But we were up at halftime

 

[Tcat]

I think it’s about time we heard from Lee and other board members showing some solidarity and support of Madge.

What like Madge has the full support of the board? If that happens it’s the beginning of the end for Madge.

It’s not needed or required and I certainly wouldn’t want to hear those words.

If the board gets involved publicly then there is a serious issue beyond the scope of the coach and it’s bye bye Madge.


Ha ha, Mike, I see your point, but there are many other ways board members can publicly display solidarity without using that cliche which means the door is now open. Ha ha.
It’s very important that the players are aware that player management and board are as one. We’ve all seen cases where the players perform badly to influence the boards view of the coaching roster. Some players find the training too hard etc.

The board should not be seen or heard . Honestly do you hear about the roosters board , lately and only very lately we have heard anything from Politis

As for board showing some support , you are overdramatising the situation . Yes bad result and bad season , fixing up a club takes time , getting into the 8 is great but no use if it’s not sutainable .

As much as I hate quoting Phil Gould , as he is mr 20/20 hindsight and mostly full of it he has made good points too and that is
- it takes. Coach / board to ruin a club with 12-18 months BUT takes. Coach / board 5 years to fix it .
Look at the mess dib/ des created In the end at dogs , 3 years and still trying to get out of it , but that board has a plan and they have not been falling for stupid media pressure for them to fix it, I guarantee dogs will be a force in 2 years .

Now with madge, it’s his 2nd year it takes time , you can see he is building up the young and junior base, trying to install a culture this all takes time. It’s not a quick fix , board has not panicked and madge does not seem to be panicking .

This is why the board “showing support” will have opposite affect and cause more dramas and the same old same old as past 10years will happen at the tigers

Not so much as a statement from the board saying "we are behind madge 100%", more so a show of support by extending his contract. He is the right man for the job. Give him 10yrs for all I care. Which other coach out there screams results for us besides Bellamy? Maybe Robinson? We wouldn't get him anyway. Madge is our coach at least for the next 5yrs.

Agree extend him 2 years

Yes i would be ok with that
Madge needs a little leeway so he can get rid of
Reynolds
McQueen
MCK
Lawrence
Marshall
Packer ?
At the least
And probably try and get an upgrade on Brooks
I don't think Madge should re sign any of those listed
We need to move on
I don't care if it appears no one better is available
We should be giving opportunities to some new blood
I am tired of loosing games with the same old players that don't perform
Move on and find someone new
Offer Brandon smith $800,000 to $850,000
Offer Munster $1,200,000
Offer TPJ $750,000
Offer ADDO-CARR $550,000
Offer Johnston $550,000
We won't get all but these players are an upgrade on any of ours
Otherwise sign the very best juniors looking for an opportunity
Anything less then that is a complete waste of time IMO
I know Geo will support Munster and maybe he should be our No1 target
Just dont waste money on crap
Get players that will make a difference

Chee Kam, Lawrence and Marshall were all re-signed by Madge.

I think he only signed them because there was no one else for the money he had to spend. Those 3 are hardly financial liabilities on the club and the contracts are all about finished anyway.

 

[Cairnstigers]

I think it’s about time we heard from Lee and other board members showing some solidarity and support of Madge.

What like Madge has the full support of the board? If that happens it’s the beginning of the end for Madge.

It’s not needed or required and I certainly wouldn’t want to hear those words.

If the board gets involved publicly then there is a serious issue beyond the scope of the coach and it’s bye bye Madge.


Ha ha, Mike, I see your point, but there are many other ways board members can publicly display solidarity without using that cliche which means the door is now open. Ha ha.
It’s very important that the players are aware that player management and board are as one. We’ve all seen cases where the players perform badly to influence the boards view of the coaching roster. Some players find the training too hard etc.

The board should not be seen or heard . Honestly do you hear about the roosters board , lately and only very lately we have heard anything from Politis

As for board showing some support , you are overdramatising the situation . Yes bad result and bad season , fixing up a club takes time , getting into the 8 is great but no use if it’s not sutainable .

As much as I hate quoting Phil Gould , as he is mr 20/20 hindsight and mostly full of it he has made good points too and that is
- it takes. Coach / board to ruin a club with 12-18 months BUT takes. Coach / board 5 years to fix it .
Look at the mess dib/ des created In the end at dogs , 3 years and still trying to get out of it , but that board has a plan and they have not been falling for stupid media pressure for them to fix it, I guarantee dogs will be a force in 2 years .

Now with madge, it’s his 2nd year it takes time , you can see he is building up the young and junior base, trying to install a culture this all takes time. It’s not a quick fix , board has not panicked and madge does not seem to be panicking .

This is why the board “showing support” will have opposite affect and cause more dramas and the same old same old as past 10years will happen at the tigers

Not so much as a statement from the board saying "we are behind madge 100%", more so a show of support by extending his contract. He is the right man for the job. Give him 10yrs for all I care. Which other coach out there screams results for us besides Bellamy? Maybe Robinson? We wouldn't get him anyway. Madge is our coach at least for the next 5yrs.

Agree extend him 2 years

Yes i would be ok with that
Madge needs a little leeway so he can get rid of
Reynolds
McQueen
MCK
Lawrence
Marshall
Packer ?
At the least
And probably try and get an upgrade on Brooks
I don't think Madge should re sign any of those listed
We need to move on
I don't care if it appears no one better is available
We should be giving opportunities to some new blood
I am tired of loosing games with the same old players that don't perform
Move on and find someone new
Offer Brandon smith $800,000 to $850,000
Offer Munster $1,200,000
Offer TPJ $750,000
Offer ADDO-CARR $550,000
Offer Johnston $550,000
We won't get all but these players are an upgrade on any of ours
Otherwise sign the very best juniors looking for an opportunity
Anything less then that is a complete waste of time IMO
I know Geo will support Munster and maybe he should be our No1 target
Just dont waste money on crap
Get players that will make a difference

Chee Kam, Lawrence and Marshall were all re-signed by Madge.

Yes but not after this year
They need to go

 

[Cairnstigers]

If Madge can't fix us no one can. We can't take much more of this.

When he was giving them the spray at half time they looked like they’d clocked off... not a good sign.

How many sprays can a grown man take ?
I woulda told him to get ......

How many pathetic performances can a coach take before he gives his player a spray

But we were up at halftime

Its an 80 minute game
Not 40 minutes
I would rather be up at full time
As would you

 

[hobbo1]

If Madge can't fix us no one can. We can't take much more of this.

When he was giving them the spray at half time they looked like they’d clocked off... not a good sign.

How many sprays can a grown man take ?
I woulda told him to get ......

How many pathetic performances can a coach take before he gives his player a spray

But we were up at halftime

Its an 80 minute game
Not 40 minutes
I would rather be up at full time
As would you

Give em a spray at full time ..
Pick a decent bench
Work on goal kicking
Madge is slowly digging his own grave
..he names Clarke as starting prop and he only played 21 minutes ALL GAME

 

[BalmainJnr]

Madge interview from this morning. Talks Warriors, a little knights and culture change.
http://www.skyracing.com.au/radio.php?do=aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLnNreXJhY2luZy5jb20uYXUvUE9ELzU5L3BWMk9BNC5tcDM=&title=Michael%20Maguire

 

[Snake]

I think it’s about time we heard from Lee and other board members showing some solidarity and support of Madge.

What like Madge has the full support of the board? If that happens it’s the beginning of the end for Madge.

It’s not needed or required and I certainly wouldn’t want to hear those words.

If the board gets involved publicly then there is a serious issue beyond the scope of the coach and it’s bye bye Madge.


Ha ha, Mike, I see your point, but there are many other ways board members can publicly display solidarity without using that cliche which means the door is now open. Ha ha.
It’s very important that the players are aware that player management and board are as one. We’ve all seen cases where the players perform badly to influence the boards view of the coaching roster. Some players find the training too hard etc.

The board should not be seen or heard . Honestly do you hear about the roosters board , lately and only very lately we have heard anything from Politis

As for board showing some support , you are overdramatising the situation . Yes bad result and bad season , fixing up a club takes time , getting into the 8 is great but no use if it’s not sutainable .

As much as I hate quoting Phil Gould , as he is mr 20/20 hindsight and mostly full of it he has made good points too and that is
- it takes. Coach / board to ruin a club with 12-18 months BUT takes. Coach / board 5 years to fix it .
Look at the mess dib/ des created In the end at dogs , 3 years and still trying to get out of it , but that board has a plan and they have not been falling for stupid media pressure for them to fix it, I guarantee dogs will be a force in 2 years .

Now with madge, it’s his 2nd year it takes time , you can see he is building up the young and junior base, trying to install a culture this all takes time. It’s not a quick fix , board has not panicked and madge does not seem to be panicking .

This is why the board “showing support” will have opposite affect and cause more dramas and the same old same old as past 10years will happen at the tigers

Not so much as a statement from the board saying "we are behind madge 100%", more so a show of support by extending his contract. He is the right man for the job. Give him 10yrs for all I care. Which other coach out there screams results for us besides Bellamy? Maybe Robinson? We wouldn't get him anyway. Madge is our coach at least for the next 5yrs.

Agree extend him 2 years

Yes i would be ok with that
Madge needs a little leeway so he can get rid of
Reynolds
McQueen
MCK
Lawrence
Marshall
Packer ?
At the least
And probably try and get an upgrade on Brooks
I don't think Madge should re sign any of those listed
We need to move on
I don't care if it appears no one better is available
We should be giving opportunities to some new blood
I am tired of loosing games with the same old players that don't perform
Move on and find someone new
Offer Brandon smith $800,000 to $850,000
Offer Munster $1,200,000
Offer TPJ $750,000
Offer ADDO-CARR $550,000
Offer Johnston $550,000
We won't get all but these players are an upgrade on any of ours
Otherwise sign the very best juniors looking for an opportunity
Anything less then that is a complete waste of time IMO
I know Geo will support Munster and maybe he should be our No1 target
Just dont waste money on crap
Get players that will make a difference

Chee Kam, Lawrence and Marshall were all re-signed by Madge.

Rowdy was a board decision IMO with him running to the media ... the Brooks situation smells the same .

 

[Snake]

Madge interview from this morning. Talks Warriors, a little knights and culture change.
http://www.skyracing.com.au/radio.php?do=aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLnNreXJhY2luZy5jb20uYXUvUE9ELzU5L3BWMk9BNC5tcDM=&title=Michael%20Maguire

Over the cultural change ... that’s easy cut the bad culture out and replace it !

 

[gallagher]

Madge interview from this morning. Talks Warriors, a little knights and culture change.
http://www.skyracing.com.au/radio.php?do=aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLnNreXJhY2luZy5jb20uYXUvUE9ELzU5L3BWMk9BNC5tcDM=&title=Michael%20Maguire

Over the cultural change ... that’s easy cut the bad culture out and replace it !

Madge is trying to change the culture of the club, not just the playing group. I'm not sure anyone is capable of doing that. It's pretty hard to cut the owners out.

 

[TrueTiger]

I think it’s about time we heard from Lee and other board members showing some solidarity and support of Madge.

What like Madge has the full support of the board? If that happens it’s the beginning of the end for Madge.

It’s not needed or required and I certainly wouldn’t want to hear those words.

If the board gets involved publicly then there is a serious issue beyond the scope of the coach and it’s bye bye Madge.


Ha ha, Mike, I see your point, but there are many other ways board members can publicly display solidarity without using that cliche which means the door is now open. Ha ha.
It’s very important that the players are aware that player management and board are as one. We’ve all seen cases where the players perform badly to influence the boards view of the coaching roster. Some players find the training too hard etc.

The board should not be seen or heard . Honestly do you hear about the roosters board , lately and only very lately we have heard anything from Politis

As for board showing some support , you are overdramatising the situation . Yes bad result and bad season , fixing up a club takes time , getting into the 8 is great but no use if it’s not sutainable .

As much as I hate quoting Phil Gould , as he is mr 20/20 hindsight and mostly full of it he has made good points too and that is
- it takes. Coach / board to ruin a club with 12-18 months BUT takes. Coach / board 5 years to fix it .
Look at the mess dib/ des created In the end at dogs , 3 years and still trying to get out of it , but that board has a plan and they have not been falling for stupid media pressure for them to fix it, I guarantee dogs will be a force in 2 years .

Now with madge, it’s his 2nd year it takes time , you can see he is building up the young and junior base, trying to install a culture this all takes time. It’s not a quick fix , board has not panicked and madge does not seem to be panicking .

This is why the board “showing support” will have opposite affect and cause more dramas and the same old same old as past 10years will happen at the tigers

Board letting the coach and his staff do their job without interfering ....

Equates to STABILITY...the thing this club has craved for years and now are getting it...and the next step is improved culture which we are on our way to...

 

[hobbo1]

I think it’s about time we heard from Lee and other board members showing some solidarity and support of Madge.

What like Madge has the full support of the board? If that happens it’s the beginning of the end for Madge.

It’s not needed or required and I certainly wouldn’t want to hear those words.

If the board gets involved publicly then there is a serious issue beyond the scope of the coach and it’s bye bye Madge.


Ha ha, Mike, I see your point, but there are many other ways board members can publicly display solidarity without using that cliche which means the door is now open. Ha ha.
It’s very important that the players are aware that player management and board are as one. We’ve all seen cases where the players perform badly to influence the boards view of the coaching roster. Some players find the training too hard etc.

The board should not be seen or heard . Honestly do you hear about the roosters board , lately and only very lately we have heard anything from Politis

As for board showing some support , you are overdramatising the situation . Yes bad result and bad season , fixing up a club takes time , getting into the 8 is great but no use if it’s not sutainable .

As much as I hate quoting Phil Gould , as he is mr 20/20 hindsight and mostly full of it he has made good points too and that is
- it takes. Coach / board to ruin a club with 12-18 months BUT takes. Coach / board 5 years to fix it .
Look at the mess dib/ des created In the end at dogs , 3 years and still trying to get out of it , but that board has a plan and they have not been falling for stupid media pressure for them to fix it, I guarantee dogs will be a force in 2 years .

Now with madge, it’s his 2nd year it takes time , you can see he is building up the young and junior base, trying to install a culture this all takes time. It’s not a quick fix , board has not panicked and madge does not seem to be panicking .

This is why the board “showing support” will have opposite affect and cause more dramas and the same old same old as past 10years will happen at the tigers

Board letting the coach and his staff do their job without interfering ....

Equates to STABILITY...the thing this club has craved for years and now are getting it...and the next step is improved culture which we are on our way to...

Didn’t the board do that with Cleary ?

 

[TrueTiger]

I think it’s about time we heard from Lee and other board members showing some solidarity and support of Madge.

What like Madge has the full support of the board? If that happens it’s the beginning of the end for Madge.

It’s not needed or required and I certainly wouldn’t want to hear those words.

If the board gets involved publicly then there is a serious issue beyond the scope of the coach and it’s bye bye Madge.


Ha ha, Mike, I see your point, but there are many other ways board members can publicly display solidarity without using that cliche which means the door is now open. Ha ha.
It’s very important that the players are aware that player management and board are as one. We’ve all seen cases where the players perform badly to influence the boards view of the coaching roster. Some players find the training too hard etc.

The board should not be seen or heard . Honestly do you hear about the roosters board , lately and only very lately we have heard anything from Politis

As for board showing some support , you are overdramatising the situation . Yes bad result and bad season , fixing up a club takes time , getting into the 8 is great but no use if it’s not sutainable .

As much as I hate quoting Phil Gould , as he is mr 20/20 hindsight and mostly full of it he has made good points too and that is
- it takes. Coach / board to ruin a club with 12-18 months BUT takes. Coach / board 5 years to fix it .
Look at the mess dib/ des created In the end at dogs , 3 years and still trying to get out of it , but that board has a plan and they have not been falling for stupid media pressure for them to fix it, I guarantee dogs will be a force in 2 years .

Now with madge, it’s his 2nd year it takes time , you can see he is building up the young and junior base, trying to install a culture this all takes time. It’s not a quick fix , board has not panicked and madge does not seem to be panicking .

This is why the board “showing support” will have opposite affect and cause more dramas and the same old same old as past 10years will happen at the tigers

Board letting the coach and his staff do their job without interfering ....

Equates to STABILITY...the thing this club has craved for years and now are getting it...and the next step is improved culture which we are on our way to...

Didn’t the board do that with Cleary ?

Yes I think they did,but Cleary didnt do his job properly and left the ship to sink....I think they have learnt their lesson and Madge doesnt appear to be a type of snake in the grass Ivy baby is...

 

[rex2ce]

Maguire is not the problem it is the players he inherited. The juniors not playing this year has not helped. Need to get rid of overpaid players and say good bye to Lawrence and Marshall season end. I would be blooding players like Madden now with eye on 2021. Give Dylan Smith a go at full back or new signing AJ. Still hurting from Cleary legacy.


Well if the players played with the same enthusiasm as we did the last few weeks we should have won easily, they did'nt.
I heard Madge's press conference prior and he was going on about the NZ and looking forward to having a chat with SBW.
To me that is not focused on what is required for this week with the Tigers.
His selections were questionable, he is persevering with a Captain that is not playing well at centre, Half back on the bench ridiculous.
Twal not fit was he on holidays after the injury, should of been on the bench.
Grant tired and needed a break.
I also don't mind giving players a spray but at half time i would have preferred a game plan instead and a spray later, the players are not respecting the coach and i think he has already lost the dressing room.

Is looking that way, only explanation

 

[BalmainJnr]

Madge interview from this morning. Talks Warriors, a little knights and culture change.
http://www.skyracing.com.au/radio.php?do=aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLnNreXJhY2luZy5jb20uYXUvUE9ELzU5L3BWMk9BNC5tcDM=&title=Michael%20Maguire

Over the cultural change ... that’s easy cut the bad culture out and replace it !

I hear you but this time Madge, with the support of Hartigan, is trying to change a decade of bad habits and low standards (not just on the playing field). Mammoth job.

 

[Guest]

It's clearly a team and mental problem. Against both the Titans and Warriors we take an early lead only to then sit back and get out-enthused by weaker teams and allow them back in. Madge was clearly not trying to be complacent, he was giving it to them in the dressing room at half time when we were up! So how can he be blamed for the complacency and lack of effort we saw last night

Agree. Madge knows what it takes to win a grand final, and I'm sure the players aren't shirking their their job at training - Madge has come out and said on plenty of occasions how good he thinks the team is, or at least should be in terms of results. Last night was a mental collapse of sorts, not the first time, it happens far too often which is the problem.

How does he fix the problem though? It's not feasible to clean out the entire roster. That is not the answer. There are certainly some players earning far more than they deserve, and some who provide nothing more than depth.

I know all the teams do boot camps in the off-season for team building and building resilience but Madge and the staff need to work on something to have the players raring to go each week when they step out on the field. It's impossible to be at your best every week but it's not unreasonable to strive for a level of consistency that rivals the likes of the Roosters, Penrith etc. They can afford to have an off day and account for teams like the Warriors and Titans. We cannot and that somehow, some way has to change.

Simple Willow ..you rest a few

We win that game if we outhustle them ...was never going to be a skill thing on Friday ...roll the sleeves up have someone like Reynolds bounding around like a headless chicken getting the boys up .....

No coincidence that Grant had his worst game last night ...Lucy was down ....Aloiai was down .....

Who could we afford to replace them with?