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Tiger_In_The_Gong
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@magpiecol said:
This says it all for me.
People around here are not of this reality.
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This says it all for me.
People around here are not of this reality.
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Tiger_In_The_Gong
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@batboy said:When you go in to eq a new sound system, you set everything flat… Maybe that's what Taylor did for the first part of the season.
Set them all at flat and see what and where the sweet spots are.
Now he has the off season to put it together
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Too bad he is tone deaf.
Tigerspirit
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@littletiger said:@Tiger78 said:Had a look at last years points differential and we finished on -211 points and pretty sure close to the same in 2013\. As we stand now with one more game to go this season ( which we should win ) , we are -73\. Although on the ladder it doesnt look like we have improved much , if a few games went a little different this year i.e the first dogs game we lost by 1 and the canberra game we lead by 22 and lost to name a few , we could have been talking about a very different season. IMO the Wests Tigers are heading in the right direction and with a few astute purchases in the player market to bolster our weaker positions in the next year or two i really think we will be right in the finals mix. WT4LIFE :smiley:
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Too right mate.
People don't like to acknowledge Taylors improvements on here and continuously pushing their own deranged agendas.
Taylors management improvement. Less injuries to the club, better defence, managed to keep tedesco injury free, the team look fit. There's improvements there if u choose to see them.
Hahaha, you guys have no idea about footy or coaching… We were equal last with no injuries like last year???
You can shove your stats up Taylors behind...
And for you lilttle tiger ... You seem to be JT pro on everything you say?
Are you sure your not paid some pocket money to try and save his name????
Taylor has been ridiculed by nearly everyone proffesional and its a joke to see larakins like you opposing
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@rialto said:In 2007 Taylor took Souths to the finals for the first time since 1989.
And then 3rd last the year after
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stevetiger
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The delusional comments regarding JT are getting old. Look at the ladder or read the papers and tell me that he is a good coach. Its been a terrible season and JT has been right in the middle of it all.
I'm prepared to give the guy a chance for a bit longer and accept he is learning but drop the spin. Its freaken embarrassing.
A fairly good year - yeah right.
I'm prepared to give the guy a chance for a bit longer and accept he is learning but drop the spin. Its freaken embarrassing.
A fairly good year - yeah right.
@TYGA said:We were much worse this year given the position we were in before Potter was white anted by Mayer in 2014 and we copped a horror run of injuries. Why are people looking to use stats to back up a horrendous year. It has been poor and not acceptable. Taylor should be given until mid year if we aren't gong well he needs to be advised he is unwanted for 2017 and he is FREE TO NEGOTIATE WITH OTHER CLUBS so we have a decent coach for 2017 when we should have money to spend.
Mark my words if Taylor leaves the Tigers he will never be a head coach of any other club in the NRL. He just isn't up to it. The only people on the planet that think otherwise are our board and this Forum.
Don't need to mark your words, It's obvious to the world (and to Taylor I would imagine) that this is his only shot.
I love the excuses offered up as to why we were rubbish last year, Potter was white anted etc, etc, etc.
All I see is a team that is so good at being bad for so long now and has never been held accountable.'
A team full of talented kids that have never had a decent stint in ressies, All had a golden path to first grade… Been that way since 2003.
It needs to change.
Exactly HOW - I repeat HOW is this year any worse than the other 12 we didn't make the finals?
We have a coach, that is taking full responsibility for our position, Not looking for or offering excuses
and a board that has full faith in his vision. If it doesn't work - He alone will be accountable to them.
I'm not a fan of Taylor in any way, But I'm willing to give him another half a season.
All the people that say he can't coach - Maybe you're right?
But his results are no worse than the other 4 coaches we've had in their first year.
If Sheens was still here, We wouldn't have made the finals.... And there would have been a million reasons.
If Potter was still here, We wouldn't have made the finals... And it wouldn't be his fault.
Does anyone here actually realize, It doesn't matter who the coach is - We just don't make the finals.
And when we do, We're still paying for it 3 years later...
Failure is engrained in us.
Taylor may not have all the answers, But at least there is a man standing there saying "This has got to stop" And I think I have a plan....
For that alone, We are a better team than we were last year!!
@stevetiger said:The delusional comments regarding JT are getting old. Look at the ladder or read the papers and tell me that he is a good coach. Its been a terrible season and JT has been right in the middle of it all.
I'm prepared to give the guy a chance for a bit longer and accept he is learning but drop the spin. Its freaken embarrassing.
A fairly good year - yeah right.
Again, What is the difference between this year and the 80+% of our existence that we haven't made the finals? Our season has ended in Rd 26 - Just like it always does….
The difference is, This guy is trying to change a culture where failure and mediocrity are perfectly accepted and part of our fabric.
He's come from the other clubs that have laughed at us since we drew breathe...
He's fronting up to take the ugliest sister in the comp to the prom and banking his livelihood on it.
He could well be wrong, And have no future as a coach. But at least he's not hiding behind 600 games experience or lack of board support for excuses...
He will die by the sword if he doesn't get results...
Worst case scenario, We will be between 12th and 16th......... Like every other year!!
- I'm sorry...... Bar 3
Tigerspirit
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@batboy said:@stevetiger said:The delusional comments regarding JT are getting old. Look at the ladder or read the papers and tell me that he is a good coach. Its been a terrible season and JT has been right in the middle of it all.
I'm prepared to give the guy a chance for a bit longer and accept he is learning but drop the spin. Its freaken embarrassing.
A fairly good year - yeah right.
Again, What is the difference between this year and the 80+% of our existence that we haven't made the finals? Our season has ended in Rd 26 - Just like it always does….
The difference is, This guy is trying to change a culture where failure and mediocrity are perfectly accepted and part of our fabric.
He's come from the other clubs that have laughed at us since we drew breathe...
He's fronting up to take the ugliest sister in the comp to the prom and banking his livelihood on it.
He could well be wrong, And have no future as a coach. But at least he's not hiding behind 600 games experience or lack of board support for excuses...
He will die by the sword if he doesn't get results...
Worst case scenario, We will be between 12th and 16th......... Like every other year!!
- I'm sorry...... Bar 3
Sorry?
What a load of crap!
You talk about building a culture, we have destroyed our culture in less than a decade and your trying to explain how a negative boring coach should be applauded because his changing what???
Our culture is to have attacking flair?
Only thing we need to do is improve our defense not destroy it…
Where always looking to others, roosters, melbourne etc. they have money not culture, thats what makes us the WT's ,
We need to look at ourselves not mirror another club.
Thats why our coach and management stink.
This year most fans heart broke because they broke our culture.
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@crusader said:@rialto said:In 2007 Taylor took Souths to the finals for the first time since 1989.
And then 3rd last the year after
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If you take a closer look Souths had a very good lineup at the time and very well funded off the field.
In 2007 Souths were 12 Wins and 12 Loses point differential of +9 and were beaten 30-6 and knocked out of the finals week 1\. That squad had players such as: Merritt, Vagana, Widders, Isaac Luke, Asotasi, Peachey, Sutton, Faalago, Kidwell, Heggarty, Jeremy Smith.
In 2008 souths were 8 wins 16 losses, 14th position with a points differential of -216.
Similar squad with the addition of Craig Wing.
In 2009 ran 10th with 11 wins and 12 losses, 10th position with a points differential of +17.
Squad very similar with the addition of Chris Mcqueen, Colin Best and Michael Crocker.
2015 Tigers were 15th 8 wins 16 losses points differential of -75\. We all know the details.
In his last 4 seasons as an NRL coach he is 39 Wins 42 Losses with a +/- of -$274.
Yes, Crusader, and the year after that (2009) 10th narrowly missing finals.- by one win I think it was. Souths under Taylor finished the season strongly and in round 25 defeated the minor premiers St George 41 to 6 !!! Also scored 500 points during season for the first time.
Be great to see all the supposed Tiger supporters that do nothing but criticise get behind the club and what it is trying to do!
Be great to see all the supposed Tiger supporters that do nothing but criticise get behind the club and what it is trying to do!
@Tiger Tim said:Sorry Col I don't agree. It's like my golf game, i can talk a good game but can't hit the ball straight. Taylor knows what the right things from his time under Trent Robinson but he doesn't know how to put them into practice. I don't have the answer to why this is but the tigers should have been far better off this year with injuries not being a problem for most of the year and a reasonable squad.
I know some of the players complained last year that Potter was too much of a nice guy and wasn't barking orders. Taylor is very similar and for some reason the players aren't responding. I had hoped Anthony Griffin was going to be our coach because he is a hard head and the Brisbane player last year loved him. Unfortunately he didn't have the spit and polish Taylor did.
I will tell you Taylor's problem with not getting the structures across….poor cattle to work with ...open your eyes and get rid of the rose coloured glasses.,,inexperience and not up to standard NRL players pure and simple..,.but let the Taylor haters come out in force...
Unless you have been in or are in Taylor's shoe it is best if you say nothing at all,because if in the end he does well with this team,what excuse will they find then.,,
But go on give TT a good reason to keep up the arguement.l
@rialto said:Yes, Crusader, and the year after that (2009) 10th narrowly missing finals.- by one win I think it was. Souths under Taylor finished the season strongly and in round 25 defeated the minor premiers St George 41 to 6 !!! Also scored 500 points during season for the first time.
Be great to see all the supposed Tiger supporters that do nothing but criticise get behind the club and what it is trying to do!
You can't form an argument by only outlining the aspects that support you and avoiding the points that work against you. Be fair and balanced.
Love my team. I spend thousands a year on memberships , merchandise, juniors fundraisers etc. please don't question my loyalty to my club because I don't blindly support your views
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@stevetiger said:The delusional comments regarding JT are getting old. Look at the ladder or read the papers and tell me that he is a good coach. Its been a terrible season and JT has been right in the middle of it all.
I'm prepared to give the guy a chance for a bit longer and accept he is learning but drop the spin. Its freaken embarrassing.
A fairly good year - yeah right.
I would even take the wooden spoon next year to see the back of Taylor !
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littletiger
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@Chadman's Ghost said:Unlike many I don't believe Taylor has lost the playing group.
When Sheens was coming to the end, there were players just going through the motions & didn't appear to be playing together- Benji being the ultimate example.
Under Potter the team simply stopped playing midway through the season, once the Farah-Potter thing came to a head.
But under Taylor I see guys that should have excuses for poor defence putting in- Moses & Brooks are putting their bodies on the line despite being 'small' and therefore having 'excuses' for poor defence. I see a team that isn't shirking it's defensive responsibilities- and that is the 'hard work' part of football. If the team had given up on Taylor, they'd be getting wiped worse than what Potter had- due to the players inexperience coupled with poor effort.
That isn't the case.
So the improvement I see is this- the team is committed. Add a few extra pieces as far as talent goes, and with more experience for the young 'important' players, and I think JT has this side moving in the right direction.
Not surprising that at the beginning of the year 2nd Row & Centre were diagnosed by JT as the weaker positions- and when injury struck (mid game for our top Centres) it was at these moments we got exposed the most (Lovett having to play Centre against the Panthers is a good example)
I think this side is on the verge of being very good.
Yeh agree but I think we need some more forwards on board. I think most our games are lost in the forwards who are very inconsistent and buckle when a good forward pack are running straight and hard.
@rialto said:TYGA - good info mate - how about adding the Parramatta coaching stint to your stats?
2006- 10 Wins 6 Losses points differential of +96
Team lineup included Burt, Cayless, Groth, Hayne, Hindmarsh, PJ Marsh, Glenn Morrison, Fui Fui, Tahu, Vella.
2007 - Parramatta finished 5th under Michael Hagan and were knocked out by the Melbourne Storm for the second consecutive year.
