Indigenous All Stars do not sing the National Anthem

After Australia Day, the flag and the anthem all get changed they will get the name of the country changed.
 
This is the concern isn't it. I should add that this is not a bashing Aboriginal people comment either. I think people in general like to complain about factors outside themselves rather than focus on working hard or doing the right thing to improve their lives.
 
Some of these comments sound more like typical vitriol spewed during the whole Australia Day debate.
If you don't support the Ind Vs Maori concept just don't watch the game. If a group of players that failed to sing the Anthem have hurt your feelings, why feel the need to insult them on a rugby league forum page?

Yes, it(the anthem) has a special meaning to many, and especially some if us whose grandparents were emigrants or that had great-great grandparents who were kids on convict ships. But I honestly can't understand the urge to attack a race of people due to their beliefs - political or otherwise - because you think a bunch of players disrespected our ancestors. Come off it guys.
 
I'm certainly not upset by the Indigenous game or the player not singing the national anthem. I'm more than willing to change the anthem and the flag and whatever. I'm just stating that at some point I'd like to see Indigenous people state they love our country and they are fairly treated.

I'm getting sick of hearing the sob stories.
 
I’m more than willing to change the anthem and the flag and whatever. **I’m just stating that at some point I’d like to see Indigenous people state they love our country and they are fairly treated.**

This I actually get. However I think our government is a little at fault with the National Congress of First Peoples.
I wouldn't be involving Aboriginal people from mainly urban areas, as no offence they mostly serve their own political agendas rather than address the high disadvantages in rural and remote communities - which is essentially what closing the gap is.
 
Gee, this thread went exactly as I expected.

A people whom feel maligned don't want to sing the anthem, that's their prerogative.
 
If those children had aboriginal blood well then yes. Otherwise then only on the agreement of the mother unless of course the children were at risk physically, mentally or living in poverty.
 
So Lauren, who is attacking the First Nation on this forum?

For one I'm not. I have family in both sides of the camp White and Black

And Im proud of both sides
 
I saw the game and couldn't care less that most of the Indigenous boys didn't sing the anthem.

They can please themselves are far as I'm concerned.

I don't particularly like the anthem. The sentiments are OK, but the tune is dreary. The words could be improved too. I laugh out loud when they get to the part "our home is girt by sea" - its hilarious.

I wouldn't object if they changed the anthem, but only if it's an improvement. I would hate to see a politically correct anthem composed by an ethnically diverse committee.

In any event, they had no business playing the anthems on Friday night. They were not national sporting teams. The game was all about indigenous and maori pride/culture etc.
 
Certainly agree on the England bit and their terrible policies, but have never heard any indigenous person complain about the convicts sent here, rather their masters. I watched the anthem and note that at least a few were indeed singing along, well at least lip syncing, but I understand those that chose not to, and particularly as they were not representing their country. After all, they would be singing along to support a foreign head of state whose forbears took their land by force, whilst also having no recognition in the nation's constitution formed by similar peoples.

I am 53 and part of this modern Australia that you write of, one in which some remote indigenous had their first contact with the colonists, were not allowed to vote, continuing to have their children stolen and in some areas, still suffering from aparthied like segregation.

Sure, I was too young to have any bearing on that situation, but my parents, their siblings and many generations beforehand were. My family has enjoyed the fruits of past indiscretions and reaped the enduring benefits of land grants etcetera of policies past, so a little guilt should rightly fall on my and similar other's shoulders.
 
@formerguest said:
Certainly agree on the England bit and their terrible policies, but have never heard any indigenous person complain about the convicts sent here, rather their masters. I watched the anthem and note that at least a few were indeed singing along, well at least lip syncing, but I understand those that chose not to, and particularly as they were not representing their country. After all, they would be singing along to support a foreign head of state whose forbears took their land by force, whilst also having no recognition in the nation’s constitution formed by similar peoples.

I am 53 and part of this modern Australia that you write of, one in which some remote indigenous had their first contact with the colonists, were not allowed to vote, continuing to have their children stolen and in some areas, still suffering from aparthied like segregation.

Sure, I was too young to have any bearing on that situation, but my parents, their siblings and many generations beforehand were. That my family has enjoyed the fruits of past indiscretions and reaped the enduring benefits of land grants etcetera of policies past, so a little should rightly fall on my and similar other’s shoulders.
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Very good post and spot on mate, I think it is really important that some of the people who suffered through the unjust and racist policies of our country are still alive and feeling the effects today. This is not some distance injustice that happened in the past, this is still relevant for many of the people who are being told to just drop it and stop complaining.
 
Going back multiple centuries and more seems ridiculous, yes, but if it was good enough for the British to give the Jewish people the conquered land of others in creating the nation of Israel, then they certainly should have given the land back to the indigenous Australians. Remembering of course that our foreign sovereign's representative vanquished our democratically elected government and PM decades later.
 
Excellent sentiments, I enjoyed your post.

I still think, as a united country, we can still make a difference and seek a solution to our forebears indiscretions.
 
Even if they did have the Aussie jersey on, they still shouldnt be expected to sing and disrespect themselves in order to respect a country that has disrespected them for 231 years
 
Those 3 things need to change. Although they are symbolic, they are a sign of respect which has been lacking for 231 years. i believe individual treaties signed in the Nations local tongue and also English. Each having a customised treaty that focuses on their individual needs and future.
The only point at which we can move on is when these things are done and our highest incarceration suicide and unemployment rates in Australia become an anomaly
 
The most sensible thing for them to do is …...

to not disrespect themselves in order to respect a country that has disrespected them for 231 years.

Don't play for Australia.... it is very simple.

They wouldn't want to be hypocritical, would they?
 
@Russell said:
The most sensible thing for them to do is …

to not disrespect themselves in order to respect a country that has disrespected them for 231 years.

Don’t play for Australia… it is very simple.

They wouldn’t want to be hypocritical, would they?
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They weren't playing for Australia.
 
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