Information Session for Magpie Members

There is a present and there was a past. Lets all remember WT have a presance in campbelltown because of wests magpies. Have $ because of wests ashfield and wests campbelltown and have a strong junior base because of the wests magpies junior area. All of these have contributed to the success of WT. Without these 'wests' contributions WT would not the club it is today. The people running the club at ceo and board levels need to respect that and honour it by showing some of that brand within WT (how that is done is unclear) but simple things like magpie on sleeve and perhaps a fairer approach to merchandise can keep us diehards happy!
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Well the Magpie remains on the sleeve.

As for the jersey design that is something that can always be reviewed.

I am all for recognising what every party has bought to this club but, in the same regard, am not a fan of anyone holding the club to ransom over ideals.

If open negotiation with the ability to give and take from both sides is not present that nothing will be done.

If folks within the junior league consider the Wests Tigers board and CEO as the enemy going in they have already lost. They just are not aware of it yet
 
So my read is that the Wests Tigers don't want any affiliated junior rep sides in the Campbelltown area? That is outrageous if true.

Forget the merging of the NSW Cup side, I think that is common sense. But no sg ball/hm would be suicide. A school like St Gregs will start sending the gun players to other junior clubs.
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@wtfl1981 said:
Ed resches - i agree with u but all sides of the WT jv must make sure there is a fairer representation of thr wests brand within WT and not just be seen as an 'extention of balmain' as steve humprhies has acknowledged.

Wests Magpies do get fair representation. The issues you are highlighting are the responsibility of marketing.

I also agree with Ed. If the Magpies stuff up this merger, I will not be happy. Everything that has happened, including the 2005 premiership, will be worth nothing in my eyes if Wests Tigers breaks up.

Wake up Wests - embrace the Wests Tigers brand.
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Dude, this is just a stupid internet rumor. Wests aren't stuffing this JV, and the Wests Tigers aren't going anywhere
 
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we should have fought the nrl in the courts like souths did
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That would have to be the worst suggestion of the year. As someone who lived throught that era when the Maggies took the NSWRL to court to stay in the 1983 and 1984 competitions, it was a very painful experience …. one which I hope we never go through again.
 
@wtfl1981 said:
There is a present and there was a past. Lets all remember WT have a presance in campbelltown because of wests magpies. Have $ because of wests ashfield and wests campbelltown and have a strong junior base because of the wests magpies junior area. All of these have contributed to the success of WT. Without these 'wests' contributions WT would not the club it is today. **The people running the club at ceo and board levels need to respect that and honour it by showing some of that brand within WT (how that is done is unclear) but simple things like magpie on sleeve and perhaps a fairer approach to merchandise can keep us diehards happy!**

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What do you have in mind? (This is a serious question btw). There's been a lot of talk about jersey colours - the last 2 weeks there has been bugger-all orange without too much discussion (yes I realise one week was the heritage jumper). I'm just curious as to what some of you are looking for that would 1) raise the presence of the Wests (presumably Magpies) brand while conforming to the general principle of a 50/50 JV?
 
So if you guys are saying maggies are being forces out of state cup and things, what about balmain, they would get the boot to wouldnt they if wests tigers wanteded everything unifed?
 
Adamtiger, that is also the case but its clearly us magpie diehards that are 'fighting to keep the magpies brand alive'. Balmain diehards dont seem to have to 'fight' as the tigers brand is well and truly alive in WT as the NRL side who everyone calls 'the tigers'. Plus the fact balmain have no proper physical leagues club, shrinking junior base and limited $$$.
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Yossarian. In answer to your question, it could be such things as the little magpie (returned to size of the year 2000 jersey) located on the upper sleeve (not on the cuff and covered by players tape). Proper black/white/gold merchandising (look at the 2011 members scarf /hat with no white and no wests name at all) best and less supporters jerseys with no magpie on sleeve at all. Utilise the white v into selected shirts or jumpers. (you will find a panthers back pack on sale that has a white v -wtf?).

Heritage match at campbelltown (havent had one since 2008) Maybe a trial game against manly at lidcombe.

The oppurtunites are there and they are not a big ask.
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@wtfl1981 said:
Yossarian. In answer to your question, it could be such things as the little magpie (returned to size of the year 2000 jersey) located on the upper sleeve (not on the cuff and covered by players tape). Proper black/white/gold merchandising (look at the 2011 members scarf /hat with no white and no wests name at all) best and less supporters jerseys with no magpie on sleeve at all. Utilise the white v into selected shirts or jumpers. (you will find a panthers back pack on sale that has a white v -wtf?).

Heritage match at campbelltown (havent had one since 2008) Maybe a trial game against manly at lidcombe.

The oppurtunites are there and they are not a big ask.
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The heritage match for Balmain hasn't been at Leichhardt for some time either. In a way they are victims of their own success - the rivalries chosen are games drawing too big a gate to not play at the SFS. Maybe they need to rethink the strategy on that. The trial game is one idea (they could rotate it every year between Leichhardt and Campbelltown) or just play in the heritage jumpers against interstate teams.

Your point on the scarf is reasonable enough. The club colours are black, gold/orange, and white. It's not too hard to get something with all three.

Not sure why they removed the magpie from the sleeve. I'm pretty sure it was still there around the 2003ish era. Personally I liked the WT team of the century jumper with the 3 coloured hoops.
 
Yep. The 2005 heritage jerseys were awesome. The 2008-2010 home and away jerseys looked good. And for your info, WT played in balmain strip at leichhardt vs cronulla in 2010\. WT have not played in magpies strip at campbelltown since 2008\. Only in 2009 vs manly at sfs and two away games in newcastle and brisbane in 2010.
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@wtfl1981 said:
Yep. The 2005 heritage jerseys were awesome. The 2008-2010 home and away jerseys looked good. And for your info, WT played in balmain strip at leichhardt vs cronulla in 2010\. WT have not played in magpies strip at campbelltown since 2008\. Only in 2009 vs manly at sfs and two away games in newcastle and brisbane in 2010.
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You may be right. I was more thinking the designated heritage round which for the Balmain side of things is generally against Souths at the SFS/SCG. I must admit I only keep a casual eye on the colours of the jersey. To my eye the jumper selection has always seemed a bit ad hoc - I'm not sure if someone decides on jumper choices at the start of the year or (apart from the actual rivaly round) it's decided by a whim. I mean why the Wests heritage jersey in Newcastle? Or Brisbane for that matter… Or Balmain version against Cronulla? It's never made a lot of sense.
 
Not sure what the priorities. Wests were not 'honoured' with a match last year like the balmain v souths game at scg. It was worn against cronulla as it was the same week to honour the balmain team of the 80's (i think) only worn against newcastle and broncos to keep it even so to speak.
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@Gary Bakerloo said:
@wtfl1981 said:
Ed resches - i agree with u but all sides of the WT jv must make sure there is a fairer representation of thr wests brand within WT and not just be seen as an 'extention of balmain' as steve humprhies has acknowledged.

Wests Magpies do get fair representation. The issues you are highlighting are the responsibility of marketing.

I also agree with Ed. If the Magpies stuff up this merger, I will not be happy. Everything that has happened, including the 2005 premiership, will be worth nothing in my eyes if Wests Tigers breaks up.

Wake up Wests - embrace the Wests Tigers brand.
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I have been thinking about this all day, and I'm still trying to work out how the Wests Group could do anything to 'stuff up' the Wests Tigers… Wests Tigers is a stand alone enterprise limited by shares and by all reports is self reliant on funding.

What could they possibly do??? 😕
 
@Tiger Watto said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@wtfl1981 said:
Ed resches - i agree with u but all sides of the WT jv must make sure there is a fairer representation of thr wests brand within WT and not just be seen as an 'extention of balmain' as steve humprhies has acknowledged.

Wests Magpies do get fair representation. The issues you are highlighting are the responsibility of marketing.

I also agree with Ed. If the Magpies stuff up this merger, I will not be happy. Everything that has happened, including the 2005 premiership, will be worth nothing in my eyes if Wests Tigers breaks up.

Wake up Wests - embrace the Wests Tigers brand.

I have been thinking about this all day, and I'm still trying to work out how the Wests Group could do anything to 'stuff up' the Wests Tigers… Wests Tigers is a stand alone enterprise limited by shares and by all reports is self reliant on funding.

What could they possibly do??? 😕
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Talk of legal challenges as per galah's post. Can't see any good of legal action by one partner against the other or wests tigers as a whole.
 
No, if Wests decide to pull out of the Joint Venture, there is no joint venture.

I don't think that is on the cards. I'm still trying to get my head around it all.
Why do they want to end the Magpies and Balmain at all levels. 206 years of history?

I'm going to gather my thoughts and make a big post on my views on this topic.

This whole thing stinks of personal agendas and spite. Why can't we all be friends?
 
@galahs said:
Wests could disolve the Wests Tigers agreement which would hand the NRL license back to the NRL
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As a Wests tragic growing up if they did this I would never forgive them and the Wests Magpies would be dead to me . Seriously .
 
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