International triple header *live thread*

@Lauren I'm not too concerned if people don't sing, as long as they don't make it a political issue beforehand. I'm sure plenty of players stay silent as they prefer to soak up the moment. However, imagine the furore the white players in the All Blacks would cause if they refused to do the haka?
 
I couldn't care less who sings or doesn't sing the anthem. Probably because I am the most unpatriotic person around, but that's another topic.

The issue I have is that no one cared about any of these kinds of protests till Kapernick started taking a knee. They might have had issues, but none had the guts (or brains) to do anything about it. Someone else had to do it for them. Now they ride his coattails, trying to pass it off as originality. Just like Canberra fans ripping off the Viking clap.
 
This is a little too heavy to deal with on a Monday morning.......haven't we WT supporters suffered enough.

I actually respect each and every person's view on this forum and wanted to point out the message I get from them, is inclusiveness. So who are we to tell anyone what their place is in this world/country?.
I also wish these type of topics/threads were somewhat restricted or moderated, as it has the potential to cause a lot of unnecessary upset.

I'm a big girl and actually appreciate those responding and sharing their POV. Your passion as footy fans shines through, if anything.

@trentrunciman why does your name sound sooo familiar??
 
@Lauren said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076022) said:
This is a little too heavy to deal with on a Monday morning.......haven't we WT supporters suffered enough.

I actually respect each and every person's view on this forum and wanted to point out the message I get from them, is inclusiveness. So who are we to tell anyone what their place is in this world/country?.
I also wish these type of topics/threads were somewhat restricted or moderated, as it has the potential to cause a lot of unnecessary upset.

I'm a big girl and actually appreciate those responding and sharing their POV. Your passion as footy fans shines through, if anything.

@trentrunciman why does your name sound sooo familiar??

Trent Runciman was a footballer T Lamb bought from the dogs when he was coach,very average is being kind
 
**Tonga v Kangaroos: Tongan wedding 'on pause' as nervous guests take in final minutes**

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/117127155/tonga-v-kangaroos-tongan-wedding-on-pause-as-nervous-guests-take-in-final-minutes

I absolutely love the Tongan people’s passion for the game it adds to spectacle and theatre of the game.
 
So, it was a great game of footy. Well done to Tonga. Australia I'm sure will bounce back but it was a nice kick in the pants & great for footy overall.
 
@Tigerlily said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076035) said:
**Tonga v Kangaroos: Tongan wedding 'on pause' as nervous guests take in final minutes**

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/117127155/tonga-v-kangaroos-tongan-wedding-on-pause-as-nervous-guests-take-in-final-minutes

I absolutely love the Tongan people’s passion for the game it adds to spectacle and theatre of the game.

My Dad did something similar to Mum ....left Mum waiting because Ian Chappell was on 92

Might explain why they didn't last .....
 
@TIGER said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076193) said:
If they don't feel the anthem represents them,
Don't represent the Jersey.

That's a bit silly isn't it? The concept of "Australia" isn't some all-in deal, you can take and leave the bits you don't like. You don't have to love the flag, love the anthem, love the food, love the surf, love bogans, love beer to love the country.
 
@jirskyr said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076242) said:
@TIGER said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076193) said:
If they don't feel the anthem represents them,
Don't represent the Jersey.

That's a bit silly isn't it? The concept of "Australia" isn't some all-in deal, you can take and leave the bits you don't like. You don't have to love the flag, love the anthem, love the food, love the surf, love bogans, love beer to love the country.

You see all the aussie netballers singing the anthem with pride....all the pacific nations league teams doing the same....I think people get sick of the protests all the time.....
 
@OzLuke Don't understand why people care so much. People protest about stuff all the time - live animal exports, Adani, Manus Island, horse racing etc. etc.

It's a free country and you have the right to protest whatever you please whenever you please, so long as it's peaceful and non-obstructive.

I personally don't care what the netballers do or don't do.

There are so many things in this world to really get upset about and want to change, but some footballers not singing an anthem is not one of them.
 
@jirskyr said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076277) said:
@OzLuke Don't understand why people care so much. People protest about stuff all the time - live animal exports, Adani, Manus Island, horse racing etc. etc.

It's a free country and you have the right to protest whatever you please whenever you please, so long as it's peaceful and non-obstructive.

I personally don't care what the netballers do or don't do.

There are so many things in this world to really get upset about and want to change, but some footballers not singing an anthem is not one of them.

I guess people can protest by not singing the anthem because it's important to them, but others can't protest about them not singing the anthem because it may be important to some....everyone's perspective is different and there is usually some faux moral outrage going on every day in other people's eyes
 
@OzLuke said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076281) said:
@jirskyr said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076277) said:
@OzLuke Don't understand why people care so much. People protest about stuff all the time - live animal exports, Adani, Manus Island, horse racing etc. etc.

It's a free country and you have the right to protest whatever you please whenever you please, so long as it's peaceful and non-obstructive.

I personally don't care what the netballers do or don't do.

There are so many things in this world to really get upset about and want to change, but some footballers not singing an anthem is not one of them.

I guess people can protest by not singing the anthem because it's important to them, but others can't protest about them not singing the anthem because it may be important to some....everyone's perspective is different and there is usually some faux moral outrage going on every day in other people's eyes

I would love to see a protest by the non-singing haters, mainly to see how the demographic looks, as I suspect that the vast majority would look very similar, or older than me.
 
@formerguest said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076290) said:
@OzLuke said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076281) said:
@jirskyr said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076277) said:
@OzLuke Don't understand why people care so much. People protest about stuff all the time - live animal exports, Adani, Manus Island, horse racing etc. etc.

It's a free country and you have the right to protest whatever you please whenever you please, so long as it's peaceful and non-obstructive.

I personally don't care what the netballers do or don't do.

There are so many things in this world to really get upset about and want to change, but some footballers not singing an anthem is not one of them.

I guess people can protest by not singing the anthem because it's important to them, but others can't protest about them not singing the anthem because it may be important to some....everyone's perspective is different and there is usually some faux moral outrage going on every day in other people's eyes

I would love to see a protest by the non-singing haters, mainly to see how the demographic looks, as I suspect that the vast majority would look very similar, or older than me.

don't get me wrong everyone has the right to say their piece....but don't get shirty when others say their bit that doesn't coincide with your own view.....not aimed at you formerguest.....generally speaking there is a moral thought that says everyone should think a certain way, and the people that think otherwise whatever the discussion have issues and are intolerant/ignorant

Good healthy debate and discussion are everybody's right without being pilloried about it
 
but to get back on topic......good to see that there was great competition from Tonga and Fiji....how much better are internationals nowadays than a few years ago!!!
 
@OzLuke said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076281) said:
@jirskyr said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076277) said:
@OzLuke Don't understand why people care so much. People protest about stuff all the time - live animal exports, Adani, Manus Island, horse racing etc. etc.

It's a free country and you have the right to protest whatever you please whenever you please, so long as it's peaceful and non-obstructive.

I personally don't care what the netballers do or don't do.

There are so many things in this world to really get upset about and want to change, but some footballers not singing an anthem is not one of them.

I guess people can protest by not singing the anthem because it's important to them, but others can't protest about them not singing the anthem because it may be important to some....everyone's perspective is different and there is usually some faux moral outrage going on every day in other people's eyes

I am a staunch republican so back in the dim dark past when "God save Betty Windsor" was the national anthem i wouldnt sing it because it did not reflect my values.So i can understand different peoples point of view on the subject
 
@OzLuke said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076292) said:
@formerguest said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076290) said:
@OzLuke said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076281) said:
@jirskyr said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076277) said:
@OzLuke Don't understand why people care so much. People protest about stuff all the time - live animal exports, Adani, Manus Island, horse racing etc. etc.

It's a free country and you have the right to protest whatever you please whenever you please, so long as it's peaceful and non-obstructive.

I personally don't care what the netballers do or don't do.

There are so many things in this world to really get upset about and want to change, but some footballers not singing an anthem is not one of them.

I guess people can protest by not singing the anthem because it's important to them, but others can't protest about them not singing the anthem because it may be important to some....everyone's perspective is different and there is usually some faux moral outrage going on every day in other people's eyes

I would love to see a protest by the non-singing haters, mainly to see how the demographic looks, as I suspect that the vast majority would look very similar, or older than me.

don't get me wrong everyone has the right to say their piece....but don't get shirty when others say their bit that doesn't coincide with your own view.....not aimed at you formerguest.....generally speaking there is a moral thought that says everyone should think a certain way, and the people that think otherwise whatever the discussion have issues and are intolerant/ignorant

Good healthy debate and discussion are everybody's right without being pilloried about it

Definitely. Ironically, being part of my particular demographic, I am often the one that has been attacked by my own for not conforming, but I was never comfortable with calling people "wogs, chinks, black bastard or [This word has been automatically removed]" etcetera from a young age and well remember the male backlash following the establishment of the Family Court.

We are all a product of our upbringing to a certain extent, so I can understand that it is hard for some to move with the times, but with this thread being about about games between Australia, New Zealand and Polynesian nations, including indigenous players on both sides of the Tasman, rascism is still likely to be playing a role for some in their responses on nationalistic issues. Sure, it is not at the levels it used to be, and not aimed at you, but anyone pretending that it is not still occurring is doing so for their own purposes. That many of those same people are also attacking a strong young Swedish girl is most worrying to me, as for mine it shows just how entrenched views are.
 
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