Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

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When half the forum was blowing up at Ivan Cleary, the other half suggested to calm the farm as we dont know what has happened. i cant believe what Pascoe has said has been so conveniently missed by most on here and swept under the carpet;

**_‘‘ Once he [Ivan Cleary] talked to Penrith, he compromised that and I had to put the Tigers first._**

PASCOE specifically stating that Ivan Cleary comprised his position at the tigers by talking to Penrith. we dont need to guess anymore, we dont need to blame gus or the media that is all out to get us. Its there in black and white. For all those still sticking up for the guy i find it so bewildering. The guy has no integrity , would have walked out on us that week if we let him and people still have their head in the sand. The guy is a fake and should be no where near our team next year.

Missed it by that much. Context is everything. Read it again. In the conversation, Pascoe is referring to his relationship with Cleary when he says "he compromised that". So Pascoe never says Cleary compromised his position at the tigers, even if it does suit certain agendas on this forum.

Exactly NT - context is everything - but take it out of context if it fits your argument.
 
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I ran into Moses Mbye on the weekend asked him if Clearly is staying he said he doesn't know either way …I find it terrible that he doesn't know so that's two players in the space of a week that doesn't know or can not answer the question
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Then I asked him what his opinion of Brett Hodgson is he spoke very highly of him and said he is going to be a great first grade Coach I did not ask about Brett coaching first grade that was his Moses words

He also said Josh Reynolds is in Melbourne getting rehab on his shoulder

Moses is such a nice man so friendly and well spoken

Body language ha ha ha when I ask about Cleary he took a step back when I asked about Hodgson he took a step forward and smiled

Thansk for your continued updates. THis circus wont end until IVan comes out without a written statement and says what his intentions are. has he signed an agreement with panthers in 2021? what did he and the panthers talk about? This is worse than the JT/Farah saga.

Crap TP - what an agenda you have.

Cleary and the Tigers have a contract for the next two years - get over it!!!! Lol
 
If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.
 
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If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.

So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy
 
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If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.

**So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you,** well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy

I don't care either way whether he stays or goes, so i'm not losing sleep over it, no.
 
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If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.

So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy

I thought Cleary was coaching next season have I missed something not heard anything! My read if nothing is stated it is Fake News !
 
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When half the forum was blowing up at Ivan Cleary, the other half suggested to calm the farm as we dont know what has happened. i cant believe what Pascoe has said has been so conveniently missed by most on here and swept under the carpet;

**_‘‘ Once he [Ivan Cleary] talked to Penrith, he compromised that and I had to put the Tigers first._**

PASCOE specifically stating that Ivan Cleary comprised his position at the tigers by talking to Penrith. we dont need to guess anymore, we dont need to blame gus or the media that is all out to get us. Its there in black and white. For all those still sticking up for the guy i find it so bewildering. The guy has no integrity , would have walked out on us that week if we let him and people still have their head in the sand. The guy is a fake and should be no where near our team next year.

Missed it by that much. Context is everything. Read it again. In the conversation, Pascoe is referring to his relationship with Cleary when he says "he compromised that". So Pascoe never says Cleary compromised his position at the tigers, even if it does suit certain agendas on this forum.

Exactly NT - context is everything - but take it out of context if it fits your argument.

Where have I taken it out of context?
 
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If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.

So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy

clutching big time
 
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If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.

So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy

I thought Cleary was coaching next season have I missed something not heard anything! My read if nothing is stated it is Fake News !

No mate, Brooks when asked last week said he didn't know who was coaching the team next year, Mbye when asked on the weekend said the same thing, that to me is rather disturbing and needs addressing.
 
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If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.

So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy

clutching big time

Clutching at what, you have an opinion, so do I, doesn't make one of us right or wrong, or doesn't mean I take pot shots at you, not yet any way
 
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If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.

So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy

I thought Cleary was coaching next season have I missed something not heard anything! My read if nothing is stated it is Fake News !

No mate, **Brooks when asked last week said he didn't know who was coaching** the team next year, Mbye when asked on the weekend said the same thing, that to me is rather disturbing and needs addressing.

No…he didnt say that
Why to you continue to lie and fabricate things?
 
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So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy

I thought Cleary was coaching next season have I missed something not heard anything! My read if nothing is stated it is Fake News !

No mate, **Brooks when asked last week said he didn't know who was coaching** the team next year, Mbye when asked on the weekend said the same thing, that to me is rather disturbing and needs addressing.

No…he didnt say that
Why to you continue to lie and fabricate things?

I am not fabricating things and I am not partaking in any more dialogue with you, you are too annoying
 
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If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.

So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy

I thought Cleary was coaching next season have I missed something not heard anything! My read if nothing is stated it is Fake News !

No mate, Brooks when asked last week said he didn't know who was coaching the team next year, Mbye when asked on the weekend said the same thing, that to me is rather disturbing and needs addressing.

I thought Brooks said it would be hard to get behind a coach that signed with another club in 2 years time .i have not heard these quotes if the 2 players quoted that they did not know who the coach was next season that is a worry ..I only have your post to rely on there as I have heard nothing.
 
Here’s a thought.
Why doesn’t Pascoe have a one on one with Cleary and Offer him an early release from his contract at the end of next season.
It gives Cleary a chance to finish what he started, whilst giving him his dream of coaching his son sooner than later.
It comes with a guarantee that Cleary is finishing off his contract with one final year so the players go into next year with some certainty.
It puts us in an open market position for end of 2019 when according to him 7 other coaches are off contract.
It gives the club a full year to decide on their new vision and who is the best candidate to take that forward.
 
The players haven't trained together for at least four weeks! Therefore they almost certainly haven't personally heard from Cleary for four weeks. So how are the players to personally know the latest intentions from Ivan Cleary! He made a statement wwweeks ago that he intends to meet his contract with Wests Tigers for the next two season so why are so many fickle fans, who have no concrete evidence at all, muddying the waters and casting aspersions?
 
Now that Nathan is wrapped up, I don’t think the Panthers will go as hard for Ivan to be there next year. I think they’ll relax and be happy to have a crack in 2 years. All this rubbish about their window closing is just that, rubbish. They’ll be contenders for at least the next 5.
 
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