Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

[avocadoontoast]

Ivan’s position is totally untenable.

 

[The_Patriot]

Exactly, he is gone. or at the very least has said he wants to leave.

Absolutely disgusting!

 

[hodgo]

We would have sacked Ivan sooner or later anyhow. We've sacked plenty so can't whinge if one wants to quit.

That’s just a cop out

Why's that? Clubs punt players and coaches that have contracts all the time. Why are the clubs the only ones that can act this way?

Those players and coaches punted are paid out as a result so while they lose the ability to play for the club they a richly compensated.

How can Ivan compensate the tigers? He is making the strength off the field that has been a built a joke. Hopefully they dont release him with out a bucket tonne of coin coming back our way from the riff. And they better stock the drink fridge for 2 years as well

 

[Tarl]

Maybe this is all part of Ivan's plan. Fabricate a possible defection on the week that will decide if we make the finals or not, only to turn around and give Gus the finger and say he will never leave the Tigers, thus bolstering the player's morale and we end up flogging Canberra 40 - 0.

Please be true.

 

[momo_amp_medo]

I really can’t see how Cleary remains a WT coach after all this.
All that remains is compensation game.
Where is the BRL leadership in all this?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Some of us couldn’t see how Farah could stay on at the end of 2015 either but he did.

 

[cktiger]

I’m wondering if the NRL should be thinking of a massive fine to Penrith and Gould for bringing the game into disrepute… because their actions sure have done that.

 

[hobbo]

We would have sacked Ivan sooner or later anyhow. We've sacked plenty so can't whinge if one wants to quit.

That’s just a cop out

Why's that? Clubs punt players and coaches that have contracts all the time. Why are the clubs the only ones that can act this way?

Saying that we would’ve sacked Ivan anyway ..
You don’t know that !

 

[Donald_Trump]

Get [This word has been automatically removed]ed Ivan. If you don’t want to be here then piss off

 

[TCL]

Reading between the lines on Pascoe's comments Ivan asked for a release yesterday. Great that we are saying No, but how are players going to show commitment to a coach that wanted to walk out on them.

After reading Pascoes comments and how much emphasis he put on fighting and retaining Ivan, I'm thinking that this thing maybe more than just headlines. I'm starting to think that it could get ugly and potentially some precedence set in respect to approaching coaches.

Or maybe Greenberg and the NRL will just continue to ignore the actions of some of the bigger clubs.

 

[HabboTiger]

Anybody got this article on the tele subscription

TIGERS READY FOR COURTROOM BRAWL OVER CLEARY

 

[Defiant]

Just make it known that Cleary he is here until 2020\. It's up to him if its as head coach or the old job Royce Simmons used to do :slight_smile:

Quite frankly i'm shocked by what I consider a breathtaking dog act.

On the bright side he has a career win rate below 50% and filled the squad with a list of many failures this year. Still plenty of room to sexy up the roster with a new coach coming in if needed. The club is bigger then this Cleary family.

 

[Tacky]

Gonna be an interesting presser on Saturday thats for sure.

 

[TCL]

Anybody got this article on the tele subscription

TIGERS READY FOR COURTROOM BRAWL OVER CLEARY

Mods must be reading it Donald snuck in under the radar

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

Maybe Ivan isn't the character people think he is

 

[gallagher]

We would have sacked Ivan sooner or later anyhow. We've sacked plenty so can't whinge if one wants to quit.

That’s just a cop out

Why's that? Clubs punt players and coaches that have contracts all the time. Why are the clubs the only ones that can act this way?

Saying that we would’ve sacked Ivan anyway ..
You don’t know that !

It would be totally out if character I know.

 

[vlad]

Fine so if the Clearys want to be in the same team sooner rather than later then Nathan needs to ask for a release from the Panthers .
Then we’ll see how fair dinkum Gus was when he said he’d make it happen .

 

[Aubanon]

WESTS Tigers are readying for a courtroom brawl with Penrith as the fallout of the Panthers’ secret raid of coach Ivan Cleary turns nasty.

The Daily Telegraph has learnt the Tigers are exploring their legal options if Penrith are found to have induced Cleary to break his contract at his current club.

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Tigers chair Marina Go has openly said the club had no intentions of releasing Cleary from the remaining two years of his contract and that Cleary was yet to seek a release.

Leading sports lawyer Tim Fuller, who has more than a decade of legal experience and played first grade for South Sydney and the Gold Coast in the 1990s, said the Tigers “have a strong case”.

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“It falls into an area of tort — the tort of inducing breach of contract,” Fuller said. “An important element is intent. If it went to court, the court would look at whether Penrith intended for Ivan to breach his contract.

“Now from what we are hearing that Panthers and Ivan have been in secret talks for weeks and then Anthony Griffin is sacked.

“Clearly, there has been an intention from Penrith to induce the breach of contract if Ivan leaves the Tigers.

“I think Penrith have miscalculated on this one and not considered the legal ramifications.”

The Tigers were left in the dark about the Panthers’ inquiries regarding their head coach, which are alleged to have happened about two weeks ago with a senior Penrith official.

Cleary has coached the Tigers since early last season. Photo by Ian Hitchcock/Getty Images.

The Tigers only learnt of the move following Griffin’s shock sacking on Monday afternoon which then heavily linked Cleary to a return to the club which axed him at the end of 2015.

It was then chief executive Justin Pascoe was informed of Penrith’s advances, before Pascoe told the Tigers board. It is understood Go spoke with Cleary on Monday night where he did not give an indication that he wanted out of the club he has been entrusted to rebuild.

Unlike players, the NRL does not have any rules in place to halt teams from approaching contracted coaches. If Cleary seeks a release, he will likely do so on compassionate grounds in a bid to link up with son Nathan.

This has left Tigers officials bemused with Cleary given full control of the club’s playing list. Discussions between Tigers management and Cleary surrounding his son have been simple; they have told him if he feels like Nathan is the best option for the club then he can do whatever he thinks it would take to bring him to the club once his contract expires at Penrith at the end of next year.

What will Cleary do? AAP Image/Mick Tsikas.

Cleary’s appointment at the Tigers midway through last year has given the club the stability it has craved since Tim Sheens’ departure at the end of 2012.

Since then, the Tigers have had four coaches in just six years, and are reluctant to be on the lookout for another.

Cleary was entrusted with reshaping the club’s roster after Jason Taylor was axed. He has had moderate success this year with the Tigers still a slim chance of finishing inside the top eight.

Meanwhile, the Panthers got on with life post-Griffin yesterday, attending a screening of retired Kangaroos prop Jason Stevens’ new movie Chasing Comets at Hoyts Penrith.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

At the end of the day, would he be that big of a loss? I stand by the fact we have not improved this year, we’ve gone sideways. Him leaving and us signing Maguire could be the ultimate blessing in disguise.

 

[Telltails]

I blame Sheens..

Looking back we should’ve kept Sheens and pissed off Farah and Marshall ….

Sheens was well past his use by date he stayed at the club far too long.A little bit of deja vu as well when Gould tried to sign him we panicked and signed him to an even longer contract which cost us in the long run.

Hey yeh - and we have been on rebuild ever since with no results.