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@the_third said in [JAC](/post/1253432) said:
@mike said in [JAC](/post/1253420) said:
JAC watch: Day 67

Hey mike if he doesn’t sign do you stop or keep going in case does later?

Stop once his future is know. Either when he signs with us or signs with another club. Once it is officially announced I will stop.
 
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.
 
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

To be fair Melbourne have also had a hand in the negotation process which has not made this as simple as us negotiating simply with JAC/manager.
 
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253458) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

To be fair Melbourne have also had a hand in the negotation process which has not made this as simple as us negotiating simply with JAC/manager.


It's the player that wants to break his contract not Melbourne, it sounded all to messy from the start a player swap deal, then wanting to play another position.

From all reports the deal i heard that the Tigers offered was reasonable, Bulldogs splashing lots of coin around wondering how they can afford it when board a rabble.

Rather keep faith in Hartigan/Madge to build a roster that complements positions we require not what players dictate they want, even if we miss out on JAC which in all honesty seems likely if no decision after GF.
 
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1253278) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1253276) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1253244) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1253229) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1253220) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1253218) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1253209) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1253204) said:
If bulldogs can offer them a player and we can’t then they are in the box seat unfortunately.

Sounds like he’d be the perfect fit not only for his on field talent but his presence off the field

I'm still not sold on giving up a player to sign another, especially if we are not the new players preferred destination.

If it’s the only way to sign a player like JAC we at least need to entertain the idea of it especially now that other clubs are in for him

Not if we are not his 1st preference, if he has desire to play elsewhere a trade shouldn't even be considered.

Doesn’t seem like anyone is his first preference he is testing the market, it’s all business nowadays and we need to do business

I think he has a desire to play elsewhere.

Got that LM debacle feel about it now. I think give him a deadline and be prepared to move on if he doesn’t accept it.

Deadlines are hard when it is out of the players control as well.

But as I understand it, we can’t go forward looking at others if the offer doesn’t have an end date.

Which would keep us out of the market.
 
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253463) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253458) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

To be fair Melbourne have also had a hand in the negotation process which has not made this as simple as us negotiating simply with JAC/manager.


It's the player that wants to break his contract not Melbourne, it sounded all to messy from the start a player swap deal, then wanting to play another position.

From all reports the deal i heard that the Tigers offered was reasonable, Bulldogs splashing lots of coin around wondering how they can afford it when board a rabble.

Rather keep faith in Hartigan/Madge to build a roster that complements positions we require not what players dictate they want, even if we miss out on JAC which in all honesty seems likely if no decision after GF.

But the release was based on a like for like swap which we havnt to my knowledge been able to satisfy.
 
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253466) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253463) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253458) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

To be fair Melbourne have also had a hand in the negotation process which has not made this as simple as us negotiating simply with JAC/manager.


It's the player that wants to break his contract not Melbourne, it sounded all to messy from the start a player swap deal, then wanting to play another position.

From all reports the deal i heard that the Tigers offered was reasonable, Bulldogs splashing lots of coin around wondering how they can afford it when board a rabble.

Rather keep faith in Hartigan/Madge to build a roster that complements positions we require not what players dictate they want, even if we miss out on JAC which in all honesty seems likely if no decision after GF.

But the release was based on a like for like swap which we havnt to my knowledge been able to satisfy.

But did the like swap **have** to come from us?? Doggies might be just clearing the decks and saw an opportunity
for both parties.
 
@Rusty said in [JAC](/post/1253499) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253466) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253463) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253458) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

To be fair Melbourne have also had a hand in the negotation process which has not made this as simple as us negotiating simply with JAC/manager.


It's the player that wants to break his contract not Melbourne, it sounded all to messy from the start a player swap deal, then wanting to play another position.

From all reports the deal i heard that the Tigers offered was reasonable, Bulldogs splashing lots of coin around wondering how they can afford it when board a rabble.

Rather keep faith in Hartigan/Madge to build a roster that complements positions we require not what players dictate they want, even if we miss out on JAC which in all honesty seems likely if no decision after GF.

But the release was based on a like for like swap which we havnt to my knowledge been able to satisfy.

But did the like swap **have** to come from us?? Doggies might be just clearing the decks and saw an opportunity
for both parties.

Melbourne can choose who to release him to as far as I’m aware so if dogs offer them a player they’ll release him to them
 
On 1st Nov we can offer/sign for 2022 and request an early release without any swaps.
Melb would look silly not to release given the compassionate grounds and the fact JAC has stated he won’t be there.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1253500) said:
@Rusty said in [JAC](/post/1253499) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253466) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253463) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253458) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

To be fair Melbourne have also had a hand in the negotation process which has not made this as simple as us negotiating simply with JAC/manager.


It's the player that wants to break his contract not Melbourne, it sounded all to messy from the start a player swap deal, then wanting to play another position.

From all reports the deal i heard that the Tigers offered was reasonable, Bulldogs splashing lots of coin around wondering how they can afford it when board a rabble.

Rather keep faith in Hartigan/Madge to build a roster that complements positions we require not what players dictate they want, even if we miss out on JAC which in all honesty seems likely if no decision after GF.

But the release was based on a like for like swap which we havnt to my knowledge been able to satisfy.

But did the like swap **have** to come from us?? Doggies might be just clearing the decks and saw an opportunity
for both parties.

Melbourne can choose who to release him to as far as I’m aware so if dogs offer them a player they’ll release him to them

Spot on
We had a chance they wanted Nofo or Talau
we said no
Dogs at least offered Storm someone that Storm were happy to accept
 
@the-new-guy said in [JAC](/post/1253506) said:
On 1st Nov we can offer/sign for 2022 and request an early release without any swaps.
Melb would look silly not to release given the compassionate grounds and the fact JAC has stated he won’t be there.

Melbourne can do what they like. They have no media pressure out of Melbourne so they are virtually untouchable. There would be nothing about player welfare. Melbourne would not give a crap of what any other state said about them.
 
@mike said in [JAC](/post/1253511) said:
@the-new-guy said in [JAC](/post/1253506) said:
On 1st Nov we can offer/sign for 2022 and request an early release without any swaps.
Melb would look silly not to release given the compassionate grounds and the fact JAC has stated he won’t be there.

Melbourne can do what they like. They have no media pressure out of Melbourne so they are virtually untouchable. There would be nothing about player welfare. Melbourne would not give a crap of what any other state said about them.

We shoukd have played hard all with Parra last year and Matterson, we should have demanded Stefano or something like storm are doing
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1253512) said:
@mike said in [JAC](/post/1253511) said:
@the-new-guy said in [JAC](/post/1253506) said:
On 1st Nov we can offer/sign for 2022 and request an early release without any swaps.
Melb would look silly not to release given the compassionate grounds and the fact JAC has stated he won’t be there.

Melbourne can do what they like. They have no media pressure out of Melbourne so they are virtually untouchable. There would be nothing about player welfare. Melbourne would not give a crap of what any other state said about them.

We shoukd have played hard all with Parra last year and Matterson, we should have demanded Stefano or something like storm are doing

Perhaps, but you could just imagine the biased media outcry in Sydney if we did.
 
@mike said in [JAC](/post/1253516) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1253512) said:
@mike said in [JAC](/post/1253511) said:
@the-new-guy said in [JAC](/post/1253506) said:
On 1st Nov we can offer/sign for 2022 and request an early release without any swaps.
Melb would look silly not to release given the compassionate grounds and the fact JAC has stated he won’t be there.

Melbourne can do what they like. They have no media pressure out of Melbourne so they are virtually untouchable. There would be nothing about player welfare. Melbourne would not give a crap of what any other state said about them.

We shoukd have played hard all with Parra last year and Matterson, we should have demanded Stefano or something like storm are doing

Perhaps, but you could just imagine the biased media outcry in Sydney if we did.

Mike it would have been insane imagine Crawley it would have been its a welfare issue let Matterson go lol
 
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

JAC hasn't done anything wrong. He apparently agreed to terms with us and signed a declaration of intent to sign a contract with us once he was granted a release with the Storm. Our management have fumbled around in talks with the Storm. Should have had this sorted weeks ago.
 
I think if Vunavalu stays as he may do then the Club may not care as much.

In the end JAC doesnt seem to be wowed by the Tigers as his next destination.
 
@balmain-boy said in [JAC](/post/1253524) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

JAC hasn't done anything wrong. He apparently agreed to terms with us and signed a declaration of intent to sign a contract with us once he was granted a release with the Storm. ***Our management have fumbled around in talks with the Storm***. Should have had this sorted weeks ago.

What mistakes have our management made. how have they fumbled?
 
@Spartan117 said in [JAC](/post/1253528) said:
I think if Vunavalu stays as he may do then the Club may not care as much.

In the end JAC doesnt seem to be wowed by the Tigers as his next destination.

thats the point ....look at it from a players POV ...who would he be playing outside .....not as if try scoring chances will come with every touch of our backline
 
@Spartan117 said in [JAC](/post/1253528) said:
I think if Vunavalu stays as he may do then the Club may not care as much.

In the end JAC doesnt seem to be wowed by the Tigers as his next destination.

Nah I think his off may come back after a year or two
 
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