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@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1253512) said:
@mike said in [JAC](/post/1253511) said:
@the-new-guy said in [JAC](/post/1253506) said:
On 1st Nov we can offer/sign for 2022 and request an early release without any swaps.
Melb would look silly not to release given the compassionate grounds and the fact JAC has stated he won’t be there.

Melbourne can do what they like. They have no media pressure out of Melbourne so they are virtually untouchable. There would be nothing about player welfare. Melbourne would not give a crap of what any other state said about them.

We shoukd have played hard all with Parra last year and Matterson, we should have demanded Stefano or something like storm are doing

No, that’s what the smart clubs do. Not us, we don’t fall into that category of great admin. Hence the continuing failure year after year. They should have done same with Cleary ( played hardball and got some players in exchange for him) Nooo!
Where not smart enough for that!
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1253509) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1253500) said:
@Rusty said in [JAC](/post/1253499) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253466) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253463) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253458) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

To be fair Melbourne have also had a hand in the negotation process which has not made this as simple as us negotiating simply with JAC/manager.


It's the player that wants to break his contract not Melbourne, it sounded all to messy from the start a player swap deal, then wanting to play another position.

From all reports the deal i heard that the Tigers offered was reasonable, Bulldogs splashing lots of coin around wondering how they can afford it when board a rabble.

Rather keep faith in Hartigan/Madge to build a roster that complements positions we require not what players dictate they want, even if we miss out on JAC which in all honesty seems likely if no decision after GF.

But the release was based on a like for like swap which we havnt to my knowledge been able to satisfy.

But did the like swap **have** to come from us?? Doggies might be just clearing the decks and saw an opportunity
for both parties.

Melbourne can choose who to release him to as far as I’m aware so if dogs offer them a player they’ll release him to them

Spot on
We had a chance they wanted Nofo or Talau
we said no
Dogs at least offered Storm someone that Storm were happy to accept

There is probably 3 pages worth of this exact conversation in this thread
 
@balmain-boy said in [JAC](/post/1253524) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

JAC hasn't done anything wrong. He apparently agreed to terms with us and signed a declaration of intent to sign a contract with us once he was granted a release with the Storm. Our management have fumbled around in talks with the Storm. Should have had this sorted weeks ago.

Are you sure he's signed a letter of intent or is it hearsay?
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1253509) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1253500) said:
@Rusty said in [JAC](/post/1253499) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253466) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253463) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253458) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

To be fair Melbourne have also had a hand in the negotation process which has not made this as simple as us negotiating simply with JAC/manager.


It's the player that wants to break his contract not Melbourne, it sounded all to messy from the start a player swap deal, then wanting to play another position.

From all reports the deal i heard that the Tigers offered was reasonable, Bulldogs splashing lots of coin around wondering how they can afford it when board a rabble.

Rather keep faith in Hartigan/Madge to build a roster that complements positions we require not what players dictate they want, even if we miss out on JAC which in all honesty seems likely if no decision after GF.

But the release was based on a like for like swap which we havnt to my knowledge been able to satisfy.

But did the like swap **have** to come from us?? Doggies might be just clearing the decks and saw an opportunity
for both parties.

Melbourne can choose who to release him to as far as I’m aware so if dogs offer them a player they’ll release him to them

Spot on
We had a chance they wanted Nofo or Talau
we said no
Dogs at least offered Storm someone that Storm were happy to accept

I don't think JAC will go to whoever Melbourne choose to release him to. The signing of the replacement is nothing to do with JAC's negotiations with the club he chooses to join.

I see it similar to when Lucy was released to us once the Dragons signed Merrin.
 
You can’t compare JAC to Matterson at all.

JAC is loved by the fans, his team mates and the entire organisation. He’s won them premierships and he’s actually on less money than Matterson was with us apparently. He’s not chucking a sook, being a negative presence at training and causing drama for the club he just kept doing his thing while respectfully asking for a release.

Matterson did the exact opposite, there was no choice but to release him we could not afford to keep him at the club and let him affect our culture and take up part of our salary cap. His team mates were sick of him, the fans hated him and the coach was stabbed in the back by him. They tried to get Stefano early but once it hit November they had no choice but to dump him.

Sick of the comparisons between the two. These cases are not at all similar in any way
 
@weststigerman said in [JAC](/post/1253547) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1253509) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1253500) said:
@Rusty said in [JAC](/post/1253499) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253466) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253463) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253458) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

To be fair Melbourne have also had a hand in the negotation process which has not made this as simple as us negotiating simply with JAC/manager.


It's the player that wants to break his contract not Melbourne, it sounded all to messy from the start a player swap deal, then wanting to play another position.

From all reports the deal i heard that the Tigers offered was reasonable, Bulldogs splashing lots of coin around wondering how they can afford it when board a rabble.

Rather keep faith in Hartigan/Madge to build a roster that complements positions we require not what players dictate they want, even if we miss out on JAC which in all honesty seems likely if no decision after GF.

But the release was based on a like for like swap which we havnt to my knowledge been able to satisfy.

But did the like swap **have** to come from us?? Doggies might be just clearing the decks and saw an opportunity
for both parties.

Melbourne can choose who to release him to as far as I’m aware so if dogs offer them a player they’ll release him to them

Spot on
We had a chance they wanted Nofo or Talau
we said no
Dogs at least offered Storm someone that Storm were happy to accept

I don't think JAC will go to whoever Melbourne choose to release him to. The signing of the replacement is nothing to do with JAC's negotiations with the club he chooses to join.

I see it similar to when Lucy was released to us once the Dragons signed Merrin.

JAC is still contracted to Storm so I would think if they do not get a player they want they will not release him. Maybe if the deal with JAC and dogs do not happen then dogs simply do not release Smith who is also contracted to Dogs.

Dogs could release Smith
Storm take smith
JAC to tigers (doubtful)
Dogs sign Burton
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1253548) said:
You can’t compare JAC to Matterson at all.

JAC is loved by the fans, his team mates and the entire organisation. He’s won them premierships and he’s actually on less money than Matterson was with us apparently. He’s not chucking a sook, being a negative presence at training and causing drama for the club he just kept doing his thing while respectfully asking for a release.

Matterson did the exact opposite, there was no choice but to release him we could not afford to keep him at the club and let him affect our culture and take up part of our salary cap. His team mates were sick of him, the fans hated him and the coach was stabbed in the back by him. They tried to get Stefano early but once it hit November they had no choice but to dump him.

Sick of the comparisons between the two. These cases are not at all similar in any way

I dint think people are comparing JAC with Matterson
Simply Tigers should be like storm hold ground until they get a player we should have put Matterson in CC if Parra did not release Stefano for Matterson, we got nothing from the deal.
JAC is not dogging team mates or having a go at coach etc
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1253553) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1253548) said:
You can’t compare JAC to Matterson at all.

JAC is loved by the fans, his team mates and the entire organisation. He’s won them premierships and he’s actually on less money than Matterson was with us apparently. He’s not chucking a sook, being a negative presence at training and causing drama for the club he just kept doing his thing while respectfully asking for a release.

Matterson did the exact opposite, there was no choice but to release him we could not afford to keep him at the club and let him affect our culture and take up part of our salary cap. His team mates were sick of him, the fans hated him and the coach was stabbed in the back by him. They tried to get Stefano early but once it hit November they had no choice but to dump him.

Sick of the comparisons between the two. These cases are not at all similar in any way

I dint think people are comparing JAC with Matterson
Simply Tigers should be like storm hold ground until they get a player we should have put Matterson in CC if Parra did not release Stefano for Matterson, we got nothing from the deal.
JAC is not dogging team mates or having a go at coach etc

We understand there is a difference between human beings. But the reality is they both wanted out and a release. Do you think if Matterson was at the storm he would have been released that easily.?? The storm are a strong powerful club with highly intelligent people at the helm. Not little lapdogs.
 
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .

Love and agree with every bit of it.
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1253553) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1253548) said:
You can’t compare JAC to Matterson at all.

JAC is loved by the fans, his team mates and the entire organisation. He’s won them premierships and he’s actually on less money than Matterson was with us apparently. He’s not chucking a sook, being a negative presence at training and causing drama for the club he just kept doing his thing while respectfully asking for a release.

Matterson did the exact opposite, there was no choice but to release him we could not afford to keep him at the club and let him affect our culture and take up part of our salary cap. His team mates were sick of him, the fans hated him and the coach was stabbed in the back by him. They tried to get Stefano early but once it hit November they had no choice but to dump him.

Sick of the comparisons between the two. These cases are not at all similar in any way

I dint think people are comparing JAC with Matterson
Simply Tigers should be like storm hold ground until they get a player we should have put Matterson in CC if Parra did not release Stefano for Matterson, we got nothing from the deal.
JAC is not dogging team mates or having a go at coach etc

If Matterson didn’t carry on like he did we could’ve kept him at the club until we got someone in return. With the way he was carrying on, and the fact our cap was in a mess there’s no way the club could’ve kept him after November 1st and Eels knew it hence not releasing Stefano.

My point is you can’t compare the situations because they are completely different. JAC is a class act and great bloke, Matto is a dog.
 
@balmain-boy said in [JAC](/post/1253524) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

JAC hasn't done anything wrong. He apparently agreed to terms with us and signed a declaration of intent to sign a contract with us once he was granted a release with the Storm. Our management have fumbled around in talks with the Storm. Should have had this sorted weeks ago.


Why are we fumbling around and what are the terms?
If it's a like for like replacement we have already said No in relation to 2 players.

If the letter of intent is based upon a replacement and him breaking his contract early well that is doing something wrong is'nt it?
 
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253466) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253463) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1253458) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [JAC](/post/1253456) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1253359) said:
Lol seriously the dogs are crazy ! Their team is horrendous , Flanagan Cotric and addo Carr will not change that . They have no halves , and no 9 , and now , if the figures are to be believed , 2.25 mil locked up of their cap in 3 wingers . ( cotric is a winger IMO) . That’s insanity . DWZ has already failed as a fullback , cotric wasn’t much chop there when he played , and addo Carr is 50 /50.
The deal we offered was Smart money , and fair money. Their pack cannot go forward , they’ve signed no one to improve that , and actually we have signed their most elite junior away from them. I don’t see the big deal sorry . I would have loved to have given him a go , but I wasn’t confident he would have stuck around in the 1 at all. IMO he will be wearing 5 by mid next year .
From all accounts we have some elite backs coming through , so I say if he takes our deal awesome , if he wants more money , awesome , I wish him all the best .
That team as it stands will not win football games. And I’m supremely confident our issue was the middle defensively , of which I think we will shore that up , with already better signings . I’m ok with Mbye wearing the 1 honestly . Doueihi is clearly our 6 moving forward . And as of right now in a spine position Liddell is infinitely better than Anybody they will trot out in their spine , including JAC .


I tend to agree and compare it this way.
We were in negotiations with Tamou prior to finals football and he committed a 2 year deal to us and also made it known in his speech wishing the panthers moving forward all the best.

I would have thought we would have tabled a deal to JAC around the same time and all we have heard is on going negotiations about player swaps, Souths and Bulldogs interests then nil decision until after the GF then maybe origin.

With the November deadline looming its an easy decision if you have not taken up the offer by then we look elsewhere.
We allow the Player/Manager 1st option to play for the club if there not interested then play elsewhere.

JAC would be a good signing however considering negotiations are protracted like Mitchell it is sounding like he is also looking elsewhere, just pull the offer on the 1st, speculation finished and options decreased, it also shows we are a club that wants to build the right culture with Players that want to play for the club not just the best deal on the table.

To be fair Melbourne have also had a hand in the negotation process which has not made this as simple as us negotiating simply with JAC/manager.


It's the player that wants to break his contract not Melbourne, it sounded all to messy from the start a player swap deal, then wanting to play another position.

From all reports the deal i heard that the Tigers offered was reasonable, Bulldogs splashing lots of coin around wondering how they can afford it when board a rabble.

Rather keep faith in Hartigan/Madge to build a roster that complements positions we require not what players dictate they want, even if we miss out on JAC which in all honesty seems likely if no decision after GF.

But the release was based on a like for like swap which we havnt to my knowledge been able to satisfy.


Well if that's the case we move on end the speculation state that we are not swapping any current players and JAC contract negotiations cease.
 
I wonder if Melbourne's apparent request for Nofo or Talau was ever put to either player. Wouldn't like to lose either but maybe one or the other might have been interested in a year or so under Bellamy and in the Storm system as part of a deal to sign JAC (assuming JAC had any real interest in joining WT)
 
so to sum up.....

he's definitely coming here.....

he's definitely going to souths....

he's definitely going to bulldogs....

If we give the storm a like for like swap, we essentially gain nothing....

I think management have played this well. If he doesn't want to come here don't throw the keys to the kingdom at him to change his mind because that is the sort of player we don't want.

For people saying his next stop isn't exciting for him? Well he has left the culture of the storm to go to a team that has less desirable prospects to win GF (souths included)....he has stated the entire time it's about his family in sydney so it's not all about playing the gf every year. Tigers and bulldogs offer him the chance to lead at a club that craves leadership.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [JAC](/post/1253200) said:
Apparently they are paying Flanagan a mint. Surely they can’t get JAC as well. We have to go hard for this.

1 mill for 3 years. Roughly the same contract they First signed Klemmer too in 2012 and about half as much as we signed our great white hopes in Brooks and Moses to in 2015....
Yeah heaps.
 
@Needaname said in [JAC](/post/1253627) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [JAC](/post/1253200) said:
Apparently they are paying Flanagan a mint. Surely they can’t get JAC as well. We have to go hard for this.

1 mill for 3 years. Roughly the same contract they First signed Klemmer too in 2012 and about half as much as we signed our great white hopes in Brooks and Moses to in 2015....
Yeah heaps.

Roosters are paying for some if his contract next year too. Bulldogs got a good deal
 
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