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@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255836) said:
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1255835) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255820) said:
@Spida said in [JAC](/post/1255801) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1255796) said:
If he does go to Dogs I would be curious as to why. We can seemingly offer him just as good money, maybe a little worse, but what’s swaying his decision? His past experiences at the club? Not a fan of Madge? Thinks our club is crap? We need to figure out why someone like him wouldn’t want to be here and fix it. The obvious answer is our results but problem is we can’t get results unless we sign better players ?

Money pure and simple.

Or

Bulldogs are selling him a bright future with the money they are prepared to spend to achieve premiership success. Their new sponsor is splashing cash.

We can sell the pics of a centre of excellence and juniors coming through. No instant success.will take time.

The word is Dogs have offered us DWZ heavily subsidised. Tigers won’t bite until Fox makes a call. Madge believes he can get back to a rep level fullback. It’s the smart play although he was bad last year.

Nah - he wasn't just bad last year he was embarrassing. He had one decent year at Penrith and thought he was better than he was. Hope they go no where near him especially if it allows them to fit JAC in their cap.

I’m not keen on it but I’m not keen on anyone unless it’s a young player that’s a gun or a rep player Not changing positions.

I'm all for going for JAC but I'm convinced he wont be coming back, so sure as hell don't want the discard to make that possible for the dogs. Much prefer investment in a young gun - let's hope we start to get the right one's.
 
@Aesopian said in [JAC](/post/1255793) said:
@nrlsurvivor said in [JAC](/post/1255779) said:
Far out. The media is doing all it can to try to sway JAC to sign with the Dogs. How about an article about how pathetic the Dogs are from the Board down to the 2nd last placed football team? At least this information is current, rather than citing our recruitment issues pre Madge and Hartigan.

“ THE FOXX FAVOURING BULLDOGS OVER TIGERS RETURN
The Bulldogs are the favourite to land the signature of wantaway Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr for next season and beyond.
The NSW and Kangaroos winger is desperate to return to Sydney for family reasons and wants to play fullback and James Hooper believes the Belmore club has the upper hand in the hunt for his services.
“It is out of Canterbury and the Tigers, but I think he is leaning towards joining Trent Barrett at the Bulldogs,” Hooper said on Triple M’s Origin Rumble.
“I think that Trent is considering him and looking at playing him in the fullback role.
“The Tigers certainly thought they were holding all the aces, but as it has transpired over the course of the last six weeks I think it is more leaning towards Josh going to Belmore.”
Wendell Sailor pointed out it was a cruel twist of irony for the Tigers, who let Addo-Carr go to join the Storm in 2016 where he went on to become a representative star and premiership winner.
“Do you remember when Josh Addo-Carr was at the Tigers and talking to other clubs and I said to then coach Jason Taylor are you disappointed about losing Josh Addo-Carr?” Sailor recalled. “And he said, no not really.”
“The Tigers don’t get me started with their recruitment and retention policy over the course of the last 10 years,” Hooper fumed.
“From James Tedesco to Ryan Papenhuyzen to Josh Addo-Carr. Mitchell Moses is at Parramatta now. Aaron Woods should never have left.
“It has just been one bad decision after another and a big part of that has been the constant revolving door around coaches.

The club only has itself to blame for all the negative press.

You'd think every recruitment decision from this point onwards needs to be spot on. Otherwise, heads will roll and somebody will be held accountable.

If we miss JAC(looks likely now unfortunately) then they can't make the desperate move of signing the next best available. Stay on track with signing elite juniors and use the cap wisely for once.

On the dogs recruitment, yes they're buying a nice roster on paper, but paying overs for outside talent rarely works out. They've made this mistake several times already and don't seem to be learning from it. Their depth is still the worst in the comp...

The club needs to ignore the media and irrational fans and make calm strategic decisions. We should be very careful in relation to spending big money on players outside the club.

Nothing bad has happened yet though. JAC may sign here. He might not. Next season hasn't started.
 
@Telltails said in [JAC](/post/1255835) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255820) said:
@Spida said in [JAC](/post/1255801) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1255796) said:
If he does go to Dogs I would be curious as to why. We can seemingly offer him just as good money, maybe a little worse, but what’s swaying his decision? His past experiences at the club? Not a fan of Madge? Thinks our club is crap? We need to figure out why someone like him wouldn’t want to be here and fix it. The obvious answer is our results but problem is we can’t get results unless we sign better players ?

Money pure and simple.

Or

Bulldogs are selling him a bright future with the money they are prepared to spend to achieve premiership success. Their new sponsor is splashing cash.

We can sell the pics of a centre of excellence and juniors coming through. No instant success.will take time.

The word is Dogs have offered us DWZ heavily subsidised. Tigers won’t bite until Fox makes a call. Madge believes he can get back to a rep level fullback. It’s the smart play although he was bad last year.

Nah - he wasn't just bad last year he was embarrassing. He had one decent year at Penrith and thought he was better than he was. Hope they go no where near him especially if it allows them to fit JAC in their cap.

It's the exact type of move we need to stop doing.

Screams of desperation and won't improve our squad one bit. DWZ is not a good player. Let the dogs continue paying for their mistake...
 
@jrtiger said in [JAC](/post/1255809) said:
@nrlsurvivor said in [JAC](/post/1255779) said:
Far out. The media is doing all it can to try to sway JAC to sign with the Dogs. How about an article about how pathetic the Dogs are from the Board down to the 2nd last placed football team? At least this information is current, rather than citing our recruitment issues pre Madge and Hartigan. If you want to go back to the past then cite how useless Barrett was as a coach overseeing a culture of infighting. How he makes a great assistant coach ala Jason Taylor, but will never see success as a head coach due to his incompetence as a man manager.

“ THE FOXX FAVOURING BULLDOGS OVER TIGERS RETURN
The Bulldogs are the favourite to land the signature of wantaway Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr for next season and beyond.
The NSW and Kangaroos winger is desperate to return to Sydney for family reasons and wants to play fullback and James Hooper believes the Belmore club has the upper hand in the hunt for his services.
“It is out of Canterbury and the Tigers, but I think he is leaning towards joining Trent Barrett at the Bulldogs,” Hooper said on Triple M’s Origin Rumble.
“I think that Trent is considering him and looking at playing him in the fullback role.
“The Tigers certainly thought they were holding all the aces, but as it has transpired over the course of the last six weeks I think it is more leaning towards Josh going to Belmore.”
Wendell Sailor pointed out it was a cruel twist of irony for the Tigers, who let Addo-Carr go to join the Storm in 2016 where he went on to become a representative star and premiership winner.
“Do you remember when Josh Addo-Carr was at the Tigers and talking to other clubs and I said to then coach Jason Taylor are you disappointed about losing Josh Addo-Carr?” Sailor recalled. “And he said, no not really.”
“The Tigers don’t get me started with their recruitment and retention policy over the course of the last 10 years,” Hooper fumed.
“From James Tedesco to Ryan Papenhuyzen to Josh Addo-Carr. Mitchell Moses is at Parramatta now. Aaron Woods should never have left.
“It has just been one bad decision after another and a big part of that has been the constant revolving door around coaches.

bloody hell, talk about sticking the boot in

What's this got to do with Wendell Sailor? Keep out of it if you don't know what you're talking about.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255832) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255820) said:
@Spida said in [JAC](/post/1255801) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1255796) said:
If he does go to Dogs I would be curious as to why. We can seemingly offer him just as good money, maybe a little worse, but what’s swaying his decision? His past experiences at the club? Not a fan of Madge? Thinks our club is crap? We need to figure out why someone like him wouldn’t want to be here and fix it. The obvious answer is our results but problem is we can’t get results unless we sign better players ?

Money pure and simple.

Or

Bulldogs are selling him a bright future with the money they are prepared to spend to achieve premiership success. Their new sponsor is splashing cash.

We can sell the pics of a centre of excellence and juniors coming through. No instant success.will take time.

The word is Dogs have offered us DWZ heavily subsidised. Tigers won’t bite until Fox makes a call. Madge believes he can get back to a rep level fullback. It’s the smart play although he was bad last year.

Well he has been moved on from two clubs. If our club can't take the hint we deserve everything we get.


It all comes down to cost. I reckon it's a smart play as well. DWZ when on is pretty good.
 
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.
 
@Earl said in [JAC](/post/1255842) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255832) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255820) said:
@Spida said in [JAC](/post/1255801) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1255796) said:
If he does go to Dogs I would be curious as to why. We can seemingly offer him just as good money, maybe a little worse, but what’s swaying his decision? His past experiences at the club? Not a fan of Madge? Thinks our club is crap? We need to figure out why someone like him wouldn’t want to be here and fix it. The obvious answer is our results but problem is we can’t get results unless we sign better players ?

Money pure and simple.

Or

Bulldogs are selling him a bright future with the money they are prepared to spend to achieve premiership success. Their new sponsor is splashing cash.

We can sell the pics of a centre of excellence and juniors coming through. No instant success.will take time.

The word is Dogs have offered us DWZ heavily subsidised. Tigers won’t bite until Fox makes a call. Madge believes he can get back to a rep level fullback. It’s the smart play although he was bad last year.

Well he has been moved on from two clubs. If our club can't take the hint we deserve everything we get.


It all comes down to cost. I reckon it's a smart play as well. DWZ when on is pretty good.

Are you taking into account the income earnt by crowds through the gate to see. JAC? DWZ is a dud. Seems perfect for WTs.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.
 
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

Do you want the team to improve or persist with mediocrity? Better players lift the standard of the team and earn greater income for the Club via the gate.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255832) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255820) said:
@Spida said in [JAC](/post/1255801) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1255796) said:
If he does go to Dogs I would be curious as to why. We can seemingly offer him just as good money, maybe a little worse, but what’s swaying his decision? His past experiences at the club? Not a fan of Madge? Thinks our club is crap? We need to figure out why someone like him wouldn’t want to be here and fix it. The obvious answer is our results but problem is we can’t get results unless we sign better players ?

Money pure and simple.

Or

Bulldogs are selling him a bright future with the money they are prepared to spend to achieve premiership success. Their new sponsor is splashing cash.

We can sell the pics of a centre of excellence and juniors coming through. No instant success.will take time.

The word is Dogs have offered us DWZ heavily subsidised. Tigers won’t bite until Fox makes a call. Madge believes he can get back to a rep level fullback. It’s the smart play although he was bad last year.

Well he has been moved on from two clubs. If our club can't take the hint we deserve everything we get.

Surely we are not interested one bit in DWZ
 
@tiger05premier said in [JAC](/post/1255849) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255832) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255820) said:
@Spida said in [JAC](/post/1255801) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1255796) said:
If he does go to Dogs I would be curious as to why. We can seemingly offer him just as good money, maybe a little worse, but what’s swaying his decision? His past experiences at the club? Not a fan of Madge? Thinks our club is crap? We need to figure out why someone like him wouldn’t want to be here and fix it. The obvious answer is our results but problem is we can’t get results unless we sign better players ?

Money pure and simple.

Or

Bulldogs are selling him a bright future with the money they are prepared to spend to achieve premiership success. Their new sponsor is splashing cash.

We can sell the pics of a centre of excellence and juniors coming through. No instant success.will take time.

The word is Dogs have offered us DWZ heavily subsidised. Tigers won’t bite until Fox makes a call. Madge believes he can get back to a rep level fullback. It’s the smart play although he was bad last year.

Well he has been moved on from two clubs. If our club can't take the hint we deserve everything we get.

Surely we are not interested one bit in DWZ

Yes I cannot understand why any consideration would be given to him.
 
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255820) said:
@Spida said in [JAC](/post/1255801) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1255796) said:
If he does go to Dogs I would be curious as to why. We can seemingly offer him just as good money, maybe a little worse, but what’s swaying his decision? His past experiences at the club? Not a fan of Madge? Thinks our club is crap? We need to figure out why someone like him wouldn’t want to be here and fix it. The obvious answer is our results but problem is we can’t get results unless we sign better players ?

Money pure and simple.

Or

Bulldogs are selling him a bright future with the money they are prepared to spend to achieve premiership success. Their new sponsor is splashing cash.

We can sell the pics of a centre of excellence and juniors coming through. No instant success.will take time.

The word is Dogs have offered us DWZ heavily subsidised. Tigers won’t bite until Fox makes a call. Madge believes he can get back to a rep level fullback. It’s the smart play although he was bad last year.

interesting we tried pretty hard for DWZ when he went to the dogs, heavily subsidised might be ok signing
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255848) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

Do you want the team to improve or persist with mediocrity? Better players lift the standard of the team and earn greater income for the Club via the gate.

Agree
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255850) said:
@tiger05premier said in [JAC](/post/1255849) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255832) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255820) said:
@Spida said in [JAC](/post/1255801) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1255796) said:
If he does go to Dogs I would be curious as to why. We can seemingly offer him just as good money, maybe a little worse, but what’s swaying his decision? His past experiences at the club? Not a fan of Madge? Thinks our club is crap? We need to figure out why someone like him wouldn’t want to be here and fix it. The obvious answer is our results but problem is we can’t get results unless we sign better players ?

Money pure and simple.

Or

Bulldogs are selling him a bright future with the money they are prepared to spend to achieve premiership success. Their new sponsor is splashing cash.

We can sell the pics of a centre of excellence and juniors coming through. No instant success.will take time.

The word is Dogs have offered us DWZ heavily subsidised. Tigers won’t bite until Fox makes a call. Madge believes he can get back to a rep level fullback. It’s the smart play although he was bad last year.

Well he has been moved on from two clubs. If our club can't take the hint we deserve everything we get.

Surely we are not interested one bit in DWZ

Yes I cannot understand why any consideration would be given to him.

Makes me sick thinking about it

Would rather just look elsewhere if we miss JAC ratherthan help dog's

Stuff them
 
DWZ performances are like his letters in the alphabet its going backwards.
He was D at the panthers W at the dogs and i dont need to tell what he would be with us.No thanks he would be even worse than Jennings
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255850) said:
@tiger05premier said in [JAC](/post/1255849) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255832) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255820) said:
@Spida said in [JAC](/post/1255801) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1255796) said:
If he does go to Dogs I would be curious as to why. We can seemingly offer him just as good money, maybe a little worse, but what’s swaying his decision? His past experiences at the club? Not a fan of Madge? Thinks our club is crap? We need to figure out why someone like him wouldn’t want to be here and fix it. The obvious answer is our results but problem is we can’t get results unless we sign better players ?

Money pure and simple.

Or

Bulldogs are selling him a bright future with the money they are prepared to spend to achieve premiership success. Their new sponsor is splashing cash.

We can sell the pics of a centre of excellence and juniors coming through. No instant success.will take time.

The word is Dogs have offered us DWZ heavily subsidised. Tigers won’t bite until Fox makes a call. Madge believes he can get back to a rep level fullback. It’s the smart play although he was bad last year.

Well he has been moved on from two clubs. If our club can't take the hint we deserve everything we get.

Surely we are not interested one bit in DWZ

Yes I cannot understand why any consideration would be given to him.

It’s the Adam douei situation all over again
 
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.
 
@Earl said in [JAC](/post/1255838) said:
@Aesopian said in [JAC](/post/1255793) said:
@nrlsurvivor said in [JAC](/post/1255779) said:
Far out. The media is doing all it can to try to sway JAC to sign with the Dogs. How about an article about how pathetic the Dogs are from the Board down to the 2nd last placed football team? At least this information is current, rather than citing our recruitment issues pre Madge and Hartigan.

“ THE FOXX FAVOURING BULLDOGS OVER TIGERS RETURN
The Bulldogs are the favourite to land the signature of wantaway Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr for next season and beyond.
The NSW and Kangaroos winger is desperate to return to Sydney for family reasons and wants to play fullback and James Hooper believes the Belmore club has the upper hand in the hunt for his services.
“It is out of Canterbury and the Tigers, but I think he is leaning towards joining Trent Barrett at the Bulldogs,” Hooper said on Triple M’s Origin Rumble.
“I think that Trent is considering him and looking at playing him in the fullback role.
“The Tigers certainly thought they were holding all the aces, but as it has transpired over the course of the last six weeks I think it is more leaning towards Josh going to Belmore.”
Wendell Sailor pointed out it was a cruel twist of irony for the Tigers, who let Addo-Carr go to join the Storm in 2016 where he went on to become a representative star and premiership winner.
“Do you remember when Josh Addo-Carr was at the Tigers and talking to other clubs and I said to then coach Jason Taylor are you disappointed about losing Josh Addo-Carr?” Sailor recalled. “And he said, no not really.”
“The Tigers don’t get me started with their recruitment and retention policy over the course of the last 10 years,” Hooper fumed.
“From James Tedesco to Ryan Papenhuyzen to Josh Addo-Carr. Mitchell Moses is at Parramatta now. Aaron Woods should never have left.
“It has just been one bad decision after another and a big part of that has been the constant revolving door around coaches.

The club only has itself to blame for all the negative press.

You'd think every recruitment decision from this point onwards needs to be spot on. Otherwise, heads will roll and somebody will be held accountable.

If we miss JAC(looks likely now unfortunately) then they can't make the desperate move of signing the next best available. Stay on track with signing elite juniors and use the cap wisely for once.

On the dogs recruitment, yes they're buying a nice roster on paper, but paying overs for outside talent rarely works out. They've made this mistake several times already and don't seem to be learning from it. Their depth is still the worst in the comp...

The club needs to ignore the media and irrational fans and make calm strategic decisions. We should be very careful in relation to spending big money on players outside the club.

Nothing bad has happened yet though. JAC may sign here. He might not. Next season hasn't started.

100%. No point in repeating the mistakes of the past.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255832) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255820) said:
@Spida said in [JAC](/post/1255801) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1255796) said:
If he does go to Dogs I would be curious as to why. We can seemingly offer him just as good money, maybe a little worse, but what’s swaying his decision? His past experiences at the club? Not a fan of Madge? Thinks our club is crap? We need to figure out why someone like him wouldn’t want to be here and fix it. The obvious answer is our results but problem is we can’t get results unless we sign better players ?

Money pure and simple.

Or

Bulldogs are selling him a bright future with the money they are prepared to spend to achieve premiership success. Their new sponsor is splashing cash.

We can sell the pics of a centre of excellence and juniors coming through. No instant success.will take time.

The word is Dogs have offered us DWZ heavily subsidised. Tigers won’t bite until Fox makes a call. Madge believes he can get back to a rep level fullback. It’s the smart play although he was bad last year.

Well he has been moved on from two clubs. If our club can't take the hint we deserve everything we get.

Totally agree . Except if they are willing to chip in like 500k of his contract, then I’d take that , especially if JAC is all about the coin .
At least he’s played at an NRL level, and to a reasonably high standard even though that’s not lately .
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255860) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

That’s crazy . Especially if he can’t play fullback . THAT would be repeating past mistakes .
 

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