JAC

[BAGNF05]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

You are worth what somebody is willing to pay, and some clubs like it or not have much deeper pockets than us, if Nofa is being lauded by us for his love of Tigers he needs to play for a bit less at this club. Brady did it for years in the NFL, and look at his record.

Who gives a rats about what Brady did in the NFL?

Tired of people quoting crap from the NFL - this is a Rugba Leeg Forum.


It’s THE most famous case of a player in a salary cap sport playing for less than market value. Tedesco and Andrew John’s did it too (apparently) if you must have a RL example. Point is, these ‘loyal’ WT Nofa and the like need to behave like it if we’re to get out of the doldrums

Rubbish - he is worth the money he is getting and deserves an upgrade.

I would not blame him for leaving if the Club adopts your attitude. They can afford it easily, revise JAC offer to winger money only or see ya.

Are you in the current management of the club? cos you sound like you are. Either that or Nofa’s dad ?

It is my opinion he is worth the money he is on maybe a bit more.

You want to sell him up the river, maybe he covered your house or car with graffiti.

I agree to disagree then.

I don’t think you are understanding my opinion.

I’d keep him at the club on what he’s on now, I’d offer him more money if we make finals or he makes reps.

Sure, one or two clubs might pay him ‘a little bit’ more, but people reckon he loves the club so he should stay theoretically.

If he doesn’t, maybe he didn’t love the club that much.

 

[BAGNF05]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

You are worth what somebody is willing to pay, and some clubs like it or not have much deeper pockets than us, if Nofa is being lauded by us for his love of Tigers he needs to play for a bit less at this club. Brady did it for years in the NFL, and look at his record.

Who gives a rats about what Brady did in the NFL?

Tired of people quoting crap from the NFL - this is a Rugba Leeg Forum.


It’s THE most famous case of a player in a salary cap sport playing for less than market value. Tedesco and Andrew John’s did it too (apparently) if you must have a RL example. Point is, these ‘loyal’ WT Nofa and the like need to behave like it if we’re to get out of the doldrums

Rubbish - he is worth the money he is getting and deserves an upgrade.

I would not blame him for leaving if the Club adopts your attitude. They can afford it easily, revise JAC offer to winger money only or see ya.

Are you in the current management of the club? cos you sound like you are. Either that or Nofa’s dad ?

You really seem to have penchant for accusing people of being employees of the club when they disagree with you.

It was a joke mate, calm your farm.

 

[cochise]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

You are worth what somebody is willing to pay, and some clubs like it or not have much deeper pockets than us, if Nofa is being lauded by us for his love of Tigers he needs to play for a bit less at this club. Brady did it for years in the NFL, and look at his record.

Who gives a rats about what Brady did in the NFL?

Tired of people quoting crap from the NFL - this is a Rugba Leeg Forum.


It’s THE most famous case of a player in a salary cap sport playing for less than market value. Tedesco and Andrew John’s did it too (apparently) if you must have a RL example. Point is, these ‘loyal’ WT Nofa and the like need to behave like it if we’re to get out of the doldrums

Rubbish - he is worth the money he is getting and deserves an upgrade.

I would not blame him for leaving if the Club adopts your attitude. They can afford it easily, revise JAC offer to winger money only or see ya.

Are you in the current management of the club? cos you sound like you are. Either that or Nofa’s dad ?

You really seem to have penchant for accusing people of being employees of the club when they disagree with you.

It was a joke mate, calm your farm.

So was mine lol

 

[insideman]

Don’t panic guys

 

[insideman]

Don’t believe everything you read, Benji has agreed to terms with roosters so he can teach Lam for a year

 

[Russell]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

You are worth what somebody is willing to pay, and some clubs like it or not have much deeper pockets than us, if Nofa is being lauded by us for his love of Tigers he needs to play for a bit less at this club. Brady did it for years in the NFL, and look at his record.

Who gives a rats about what Brady did in the NFL?

Tired of people quoting crap from the NFL - this is a Rugba Leeg Forum.


It’s THE most famous case of a player in a salary cap sport playing for less than market value. Tedesco and Andrew John’s did it too (apparently) if you must have a RL example. Point is, these ‘loyal’ WT Nofa and the like need to behave like it if we’re to get out of the doldrums

Rubbish - he is worth the money he is getting and deserves an upgrade.

I would not blame him for leaving if the Club adopts your attitude. They can afford it easily, revise JAC offer to winger money only or see ya.

Are you in the current management of the club? cos you sound like you are. Either that or Nofa’s dad ?

It is my opinion he is worth the money he is on maybe a bit more.

You want to sell him up the river, maybe he covered your house or car with graffiti.

I agree to disagree then.


I don’t think you are understanding my opinion.

I’d keep him at the club on what he’s on now, I’d offer him more money if we make finals or he makes reps.

Sure, one or two clubs might pay him ‘a little bit’ more, but people reckon he loves the club so he should stay theoretically.

If he doesn’t, maybe he didn’t love the club that much.

Maybe I did, however I think he should be renewed as our best player of 2020, maybe a bit more i.e. 475k for 3 years as a show of good faith and appreciation of his loyalty.

Not into paying a bit more if he makes SOO etc. That then relies on Fittler etc. putting some of their bias on hold, wouldn't want my life depending on that. Also I worked for many years without a payrise and was very loyal (great firm, great job, nice people BUT it didn't help to put food on the table or clothes on the families back).

 

[Celticguy97]

Don’t believe everything you read, Benji has agreed to terms with roosters so he can teach Lam for a year

Hahahahaha, do u mean Sam Walker ?

 

[JC99]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Jesus , the season just ended and you guys are trying to punt the winger of the year . Haha that’s goldfish type memory . Does everyone realise there’s 2 wingers , on a football team

 

[twentyforty]

You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites


Yes this is certainly the most logical way of looking at the JAC signing. Looking at those teams rosters and where they need strengthening, the Bulldogs really need to concentrate on buying decent halves and a hooker. They’d be mad to throw all their money at JAC and have nothing left to sign players in those key positions. If they go into next season with the same halves and hooker then having JAC in the backline won’t make a squat of difference and can kiss all their hopes goodbye. Surely Barrett, as a former half, can see this.

JAC is not what they need, they’ve already bought another SOO winger in Cotric and I think Meaney does a pretty good job for them at fullback. Not to mention if DWZ got back to his best he would be great! I don’t know what has happened to him actually, he started out great when he first signed with them, perhaps he is just not happy there.

Souths simply do not need another back, they are already stacked with quality backs and if JAC went there he would be competing with his mate Mitchell for the fullback spot, which is just ridiculous really since they only just courted Mitchell to play in that spot last year! Before his injury he certainly showed signs that he would become a very good fullback, imo and if he is injured long term fullback can be well and truly covered by either Allen or Johnston.

The Tigers are really the only team of those 3 that need JAC and can hand him the fullback role for him to make his own, no questions asked. I believe we are probably the ones with the best offer on the table also. So, logically JAC to us is a no brainer really, but logic doesn’t account for a person’s heart or emotions and if JAC ‘s heart isn’t in playing for us, then logic goes out the window and he signs elsewhere. What can ya do?

There is also the possibility I guess of another Sydney club coming out of left field and snaring his signature under the noses of all us, who knows?


**Has anyone heard of any other club which has tabled an offer to JAC? Does anyone find that odd? I mean, given the quality of player he is?**
From memory WT were the only club to table an offer to Mitchell. I’m not drawing any conclusion here, just eluding to a pattern of similarity.


Not that I’ve heard and yes I do find it odd. It’s probably his penchant to play fullback that is stopping clubs like the Roosters, Parra and Penrith from chiming in, as they would have no room to accommodate him. Dogs and us are desperately trying to improve our rosters, so naturally that’s where the big offers are coming from. Cronulla and St George are very quiet though and they were who I was thinking about when I mentioned that a club could come out of the left field and pick him up.

All that said, my true belief still is that Souths are working very hard behind the scenes to free up space to sign JAC and that is actually where he really wants to be. I even think he’d give up the notion of playing fullback, as long as he can don the red & green and play alongside his close mates at Redfern - he is a Souths junior after all.

Yes Spud, I guess you have a good point..he wants to move to Sydney and play fullback. That does narrow it down somewhat, when you look at the Sydney clubs who don’t have a decent #1.
As much as Teddy says he loves it at the chooks, I think he would be prepared to clean out his locker for extra cash?
Back to JAC, he has been quoted in msm saying he would play anywhere.

 

[WT2K]

LATEST: Following the grand final win Josh Addo Carr has told his manager Mario Tartak that he in open to staying with the @storm for another season. He does have a heads of agreement with Tigers. Preference is to come home staying put an option again. @NRLonNine @9NewsSyd
https://twitter.com/Danny_Weidler/status/1322724491512832002?s=19

 

[cochise]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

 

[JC99]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

 

[JC99]

LATEST: Following the grand final win Josh Addo Carr has told his manager Mario Tartak that he in open to staying with the @storm for another season. He does have a heads of agreement with Tigers. Preference is to come home staying put an option again. @NRLonNine @9NewsSyd
https://twitter.com/Danny_Weidler/status/1322724491512832002?s=19

Let’s get him signed up for 2022 right now then.

Problem is him saying he’s willing to stay means Melbourne can continue to demand a player swap

If he kept pushing for a release they might have no choice eventually. At least he’s not a sook and has good character lol

 

[BAGNF05]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

You are worth what somebody is willing to pay, and some clubs like it or not have much deeper pockets than us, if Nofa is being lauded by us for his love of Tigers he needs to play for a bit less at this club. Brady did it for years in the NFL, and look at his record.

Who gives a rats about what Brady did in the NFL?

Tired of people quoting crap from the NFL - this is a Rugba Leeg Forum.


It’s THE most famous case of a player in a salary cap sport playing for less than market value. Tedesco and Andrew John’s did it too (apparently) if you must have a RL example. Point is, these ‘loyal’ WT Nofa and the like need to behave like it if we’re to get out of the doldrums

Rubbish - he is worth the money he is getting and deserves an upgrade.

I would not blame him for leaving if the Club adopts your attitude. They can afford it easily, revise JAC offer to winger money only or see ya.

Are you in the current management of the club? cos you sound like you are. Either that or Nofa’s dad ?

It is my opinion he is worth the money he is on maybe a bit more.

You want to sell him up the river, maybe he covered your house or car with graffiti.

I agree to disagree then.


I don’t think you are understanding my opinion.

I’d keep him at the club on what he’s on now, I’d offer him more money if we make finals or he makes reps.

Sure, one or two clubs might pay him ‘a little bit’ more, but people reckon he loves the club so he should stay theoretically.

If he doesn’t, maybe he didn’t love the club that much.

Maybe I did, however I think he should be renewed as our best player of 2020, maybe a bit more i.e. 475k for 3 years as a show of good faith and appreciation of his loyalty.

Not into paying a bit more if he makes SOO etc. That then relies on Fittler etc. putting some of their bias on hold, wouldn't want my life depending on that. Also I worked for many years without a payrise and was very loyal (great firm, great job, nice people BUT it didn't help to put food on the table or clothes on the families back).

Fair enough mate, I gotta see Nofa play big games or finals before I upgrade him, I appreciate your view though.

 

[cochise]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

 

[JC99]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

 

[cochise]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine.

That is a superficial way of looking at it Paws.

Everyone would agree that JAC is a superior winger. The question is, how much better ?

Suppose we were paying Nofo, say, $450k, and we let him go to the Storm, and we had to pay JAC , say, $750k, to come here. Is that a good deal ? (I'm making up some numbers for illustrative purposes.)

Is JAC a 67% better winger than Nofo ? It's debatable, but I'd say no.

Paying JAC overs because he may make a success at full back would be foolish (which apparently is what the Dogs are offering).

In any event, the way we truly strengthen our team is to have JAC on one wing and Nofo on the other. That's a nice balance. I don't see the point of weakening one wing in order to strengthen the other.


I like to look in our juniors to see if we have a fast young player whom we could pay $100 to $250k to fill the right wing.

Or Saab at what price? Significantly less than Nofoaluma.

Buy JAC for his asking price. SOO and Kangaroo rep and premiership winner

Offset one against the other.

Are you going to swap Nofo for Saab as well or are you going to swap someone else fro him?

As I have written earlier, having an unsettled player does not do either party good. Matterson is the prime example.

 

[JC99]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field