JAC

[Russell]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

No thanks.

 

[JC99]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

 

[Sart0ri]

Storm have backed themselves into a corner, they want a top class winger for rookie money.
If you try to be the clear winner in deals when you have to keep dealing with the same people, everyone will play hardball with you all the time. They also won the comp so they are now the team that everyone wants to beat.

There are good wingers that have been told they can look elsewhere, but Melbourne are not offering a good enough deal.

We have all seen how fans act when a club says they won't release a player without getting something in return then have to give in.

 

[Russell]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

WTs has been very good to him. I recall Korobeite and JAC being superior wingers yet both have gone.

That says more about them than the club or Nofo.

 

[Russell]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

You are worth what somebody is willing to pay, and some clubs like it or not have much deeper pockets than us, if Nofa is being lauded by us for his love of Tigers he needs to play for a bit less at this club. Brady did it for years in the NFL, and look at his record.

Who gives a rats about what Brady did in the NFL?

Tired of people quoting crap from the NFL - this is a Rugba Leeg Forum.

 

[Geo]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

So Remis Smith is a like tor like swap for JAC....bwhahahahaha...good one

 

[Russell]

Here is the difference between a genuine match winner and a good club player. I've written this before but it is worth reiterating the difference between a top line winger and those below.

In a game against Cronulla at Caltex Field we were down by a couple of points with only a couple of minutes remaining. During the game our left centre and winger which was Lawrence and Korobeite were dangerous the entire game. The ball switched to the right as Nofoaluma had a 60 metre sprint to the try line to win the game. He couldn't do it as he lacks genuine pace and was put over the sideline by Fifita. Korobeite or JAC would have strolled the 60 metres to score. That is the difference and until the Club learns to keep the match winners we will always struggle.

Hypothetical situation - you do not know what the outcome would have been,,,,

In a nutshell guessing to fit your speed scenario.

Surprised with your nous that you would want to get rid (a local junior) of the only winger we have.

 

[JC99]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

So Remis Smith is a like tor like swap for JAC....bwhahahahaha...good one

Bellamy would make him a star... he’s tall and fast and can score a try. Whole lot better than what we are offering - nothin

 

[happy_tiger]

Anyone watch Koroibete defence yesterday ......pass

 

[Russell]

Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine.

That is a superficial way of looking at it Paws.

Everyone would agree that JAC is a superior winger. The question is, how much better ?

Suppose we were paying Nofo, say, $450k, and we let him go to the Storm, and we had to pay JAC , say, $750k, to come here. Is that a good deal ? (I'm making up some numbers for illustrative purposes.)

Is JAC a 67% better winger than Nofo ? It's debatable, but I'd say no.

Paying JAC overs because he may make a success at full back would be foolish (which apparently is what the Dogs are offering).

In any event, the way we truly strengthen our team is to have JAC on one wing and Nofo on the other. That's a nice balance. I don't see the point of weakening one wing in order to strengthen the other.


I like to look in our juniors to see if we have a fast young player whom we could pay $100 to $250k to fill the right wing.

Or Saab at what price? Significantly less than Nofoaluma.

Buy JAC for his asking price. SOO and Kangaroo rep and premiership winner

Offset one against the other.

Are you going to swap Nofo for Saab as well or are you going to swap someone else fro him?

 

[Russell]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

How so? He's had a good year in attack, poor defensively. He's been on what $450k for how many. years? I don't believe he has been particularly good value for money. for WTs. I get it he is. a Campbelltown junior.

lol I tend to like a lot of what you say , but you’re off your head this time . If you’ve ever been in a team atmosphere you’ll know that releasing/ firing a beloved member is a sure fire way to ruin culture .
Not to mention he’s literally the winger of the year.

We have a losing culture as an earlier poster has stated. To improve it, we need better players. Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine. Yes I have been in situations where good team work determines the outcome and there is far more at stake than a football game.

Nofo is probably our best back at the moment, is loyal and shown great improvement, he is the last person that should be moved on. You seem to have a dislike for the bloke for some reason, so lucky you are not a selector, we have made enough poor decisions over the years.

I'm a realist, Nofoaluma is a club level player. Do we want to improve or continue to fool ourselves.? We need better players. Nofoaluma has reached koala status in some sections. It is not a matter of liking or disliking him. He has received very good renumeration from the Club so it works both ways. The loyalty card is irrelevant when you are trying to improve.

So you want to get rid of a player who consistently makes more meters than anybody else in the club?Please dont take a job at our club we have had too many decisions like that in the past

Cherry picking is a fine art.

You are correct, trouble is, it depends when you buy - some times half the box has gone off.

I don't think if we got JAC that would entice any Marquee players to us.

He maybe an Australian/SOO player but he is an Australian/SOO winger, not a full back.

 

[cochise]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

 

[cochise]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

So Remis Smith is a like tor like swap for JAC....bwhahahahaha...good one

Exactly what I said to my bulldogs supporting mate when he told me. He did reply with no one is like for like with JAC which does have some merit.

 

[BAGNF05]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

You are worth what somebody is willing to pay, and some clubs like it or not have much deeper pockets than us, if Nofa is being lauded by us for his love of Tigers he needs to play for a bit less at this club. Brady did it for years in the NFL, and look at his record.

Who gives a rats about what Brady did in the NFL?

Tired of people quoting crap from the NFL - this is a Rugba Leeg Forum.

It’s THE most famous case of a player in a salary cap sport playing for less than market value. Tedesco and Andrew John’s did it too (apparently) if you must have a RL example. Point is, these ‘loyal’ WT Nofa and the like need to behave like it if we’re to get out of the doldrums

 

[Spud_Murphy]

You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites


Yes this is certainly the most logical way of looking at the JAC signing. Looking at those teams rosters and where they need strengthening, the Bulldogs really need to concentrate on buying decent halves and a hooker. They’d be mad to throw all their money at JAC and have nothing left to sign players in those key positions. If they go into next season with the same halves and hooker then having JAC in the backline won’t make a squat of difference and can kiss all their hopes goodbye. Surely Barrett, as a former half, can see this.

JAC is not what they need, they’ve already bought another SOO winger in Cotric and I think Meaney does a pretty good job for them at fullback. Not to mention if DWZ got back to his best he would be great! I don’t know what has happened to him actually, he started out great when he first signed with them, perhaps he is just not happy there.

Souths simply do not need another back, they are already stacked with quality backs and if JAC went there he would be competing with his mate Mitchell for the fullback spot, which is just ridiculous really since they only just courted Mitchell to play in that spot last year! Before his injury he certainly showed signs that he would become a very good fullback, imo and if he is injured long term fullback can be well and truly covered by either Allen or Johnston.

The Tigers are really the only team of those 3 that need JAC and can hand him the fullback role for him to make his own, no questions asked. I believe we are probably the ones with the best offer on the table also. So, logically JAC to us is a no brainer really, but logic doesn’t account for a person’s heart or emotions and if JAC ‘s heart isn’t in playing for us, then logic goes out the window and he signs elsewhere. What can ya do?

There is also the possibility I guess of another Sydney club coming out of left field and snaring his signature under the noses of all us, who knows?


**Has anyone heard of any other club which has tabled an offer to JAC? Does anyone find that odd? I mean, given the quality of player he is?**
From memory WT were the only club to table an offer to Mitchell. I’m not drawing any conclusion here, just eluding to a pattern of similarity.

Not that I’ve heard and yes I do find it odd. It’s probably his penchant to play fullback that is stopping clubs like the Roosters, Parra and Penrith from chiming in, as they would have no room to accommodate him. Dogs and us are desperately trying to improve our rosters, so naturally that’s where the big offers are coming from. Cronulla and St George are very quiet though and they were who I was thinking about when I mentioned that a club could come out of the left field and pick him up.

All that said, my true belief still is that Souths are working very hard behind the scenes to free up space to sign JAC and that is actually where he really wants to be. I even think he’d give up the notion of playing fullback, as long as he can don the red & green and play alongside his close mates at Redfern - he is a Souths junior after all.

 

[Russell]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

You are worth what somebody is willing to pay, and some clubs like it or not have much deeper pockets than us, if Nofa is being lauded by us for his love of Tigers he needs to play for a bit less at this club. Brady did it for years in the NFL, and look at his record.

Who gives a rats about what Brady did in the NFL?

Tired of people quoting crap from the NFL - this is a Rugba Leeg Forum.


It’s THE most famous case of a player in a salary cap sport playing for less than market value. Tedesco and Andrew John’s did it too (apparently) if you must have a RL example. Point is, these ‘loyal’ WT Nofa and the like need to behave like it if we’re to get out of the doldrums

Rubbish - he is worth the money he is getting and deserves an upgrade.

I would not blame him for leaving if the Club adopts your attitude. They can afford it easily, revise JAC offer to winger money only or see ya.

 

[TrueTiger]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

How so? He's had a good year in attack, poor defensively. He's been on what $450k for how many. years? I don't believe he has been particularly good value for money. for WTs. I get it he is. a Campbelltown junior.

lol I tend to like a lot of what you say , but you’re off your head this time . If you’ve ever been in a team atmosphere you’ll know that releasing/ firing a beloved member is a sure fire way to ruin culture .
Not to mention he’s literally the winger of the year.

We have a losing culture as an earlier poster has stated. To improve it, we need better players. Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine. Yes I have been in situations where good team work determines the outcome and there is far more at stake than a football game.

Nofo is probably our best back at the moment, is loyal and shown great improvement, he is the last person that should be moved on. You seem to have a dislike for the bloke for some reason, so lucky you are not a selector, we have made enough poor decisions over the years.

I'm a realist, Nofoaluma is a club level player. Do we want to improve or continue to fool ourselves.? We need better players. Nofoaluma has reached koala status in some sections. It is not a matter of liking or disliking him. He has received very good renumeration from the Club so it works both ways. The loyalty card is irrelevant when you are trying to improve.

So you want to get rid of a player who consistently makes more meters than anybody else in the club?Please dont take a job at our club we have had too many decisions like that in the past

Cherry picking is a fine art.

You are correct, trouble is, it depends when you buy - some times half the box has gone off.

I don't think if we got JAC that would entice any Marquee players to us.

He maybe an Australian/SOO player but he is an Australian/SOO winger, not a full back.

I know paws is a great fan of Jacs,but who isnt,Im a fan of Noffos because he had a very good year this year under Madge and still may get better next year and could be selected in SOO if his form escalates..
We had JAC and he left for whatever reason or who do you blame.How do we know that there isnt a junior amongst our lot that may become as good as Jac with Madges coaching,after all Bellamy has made Jac the player he is...Madge could do the same with Noffo or a young up and comer...
JAC brilliant winger....fullback..untried and could be great or be a failure...

 

[BAGNF05]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

You are worth what somebody is willing to pay, and some clubs like it or not have much deeper pockets than us, if Nofa is being lauded by us for his love of Tigers he needs to play for a bit less at this club. Brady did it for years in the NFL, and look at his record.

Who gives a rats about what Brady did in the NFL?

Tired of people quoting crap from the NFL - this is a Rugba Leeg Forum.


It’s THE most famous case of a player in a salary cap sport playing for less than market value. Tedesco and Andrew John’s did it too (apparently) if you must have a RL example. Point is, these ‘loyal’ WT Nofa and the like need to behave like it if we’re to get out of the doldrums

Rubbish - he is worth the money he is getting and deserves an upgrade.

I would not blame him for leaving if the Club adopts your attitude. They can afford it easily, revise JAC offer to winger money only or see ya.

Are you in the current management of the club? cos you sound like you are. Either that or Nofa’s dad ?

 

[Russell]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

You are worth what somebody is willing to pay, and some clubs like it or not have much deeper pockets than us, if Nofa is being lauded by us for his love of Tigers he needs to play for a bit less at this club. Brady did it for years in the NFL, and look at his record.

Who gives a rats about what Brady did in the NFL?

Tired of people quoting crap from the NFL - this is a Rugba Leeg Forum.


It’s THE most famous case of a player in a salary cap sport playing for less than market value. Tedesco and Andrew John’s did it too (apparently) if you must have a RL example. Point is, these ‘loyal’ WT Nofa and the like need to behave like it if we’re to get out of the doldrums

Rubbish - he is worth the money he is getting and deserves an upgrade.

I would not blame him for leaving if the Club adopts your attitude. They can afford it easily, revise JAC offer to winger money only or see ya.

Are you in the current management of the club? cos you sound like you are. Either that or Nofa’s dad ?

It is my opinion he is worth the money he is on maybe a bit more.

You want to sell him up the river, maybe he covered your house or car with graffiti.

I agree to disagree then.

 

[cochise]

This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

The losing culture?

Any culture he’s not the reason we are losing. Look at the best teams they never let performing players leave if the dollars are reasonable you have to keep your players. If not the next time someone comes good they leave. Loyalty goes both ways. It won’t always work but letting Nofa leave would be stupid. He’s the heart and soul of the club atm.

I like Nofa and he had a good year but I’d be going to him and saying, here’s a new deal on the same money, with incentives if you play rep footy and finals. We need more from you in the big games. Sign it now or it’s off the table. We can’t be mucking around wasting our time with upgrades when nobody, including him, is earning one.

He’s early an upgrade no idea what he’s on but 450k 3 year extension I’d offer tomorrow. Probably less than he will get elsewhere but it should be the way for long term players.

My point is, If we can’t lock up guys like him and Aloiai on team friendly deals, we’ve got no hope. You need your supposed loyal guys to just sign on and play good footy, not squeeze us for every drop.

And the club should also offer what they are worth in a show of good faith.

You are worth what somebody is willing to pay, and some clubs like it or not have much deeper pockets than us, if Nofa is being lauded by us for his love of Tigers he needs to play for a bit less at this club. Brady did it for years in the NFL, and look at his record.

Who gives a rats about what Brady did in the NFL?

Tired of people quoting crap from the NFL - this is a Rugba Leeg Forum.


It’s THE most famous case of a player in a salary cap sport playing for less than market value. Tedesco and Andrew John’s did it too (apparently) if you must have a RL example. Point is, these ‘loyal’ WT Nofa and the like need to behave like it if we’re to get out of the doldrums

Rubbish - he is worth the money he is getting and deserves an upgrade.

I would not blame him for leaving if the Club adopts your attitude. They can afford it easily, revise JAC offer to winger money only or see ya.

Are you in the current management of the club? cos you sound like you are. Either that or Nofa’s dad ?

You really seem to have penchant for accusing people of being employees of the club when they disagree with you.