JAC

[GNR4LIFE]

We’re going to be signing somebody, why not JAC? We’re in a great position to offer him a truckload for 2022. Once we can nut that out, it’s about trying to get him for 2021.

 

[JC99]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.

Even at first choice, top dollar plus a player is too much. Storm can go stick it. They can start paying his salary from today.

Won’t be worth it when he goes off and signs somewhere else and we are stuck with a bog average team

I can’t understand how trading someone like Talau or Momers for JAC is too much. We get a top quality player and it’s not like we are still paying the salary of whoever we send off the Melbourne it gives us more cap room

JAC is not on big money either. Melbourne will be happy to pay his contract and play hardball, they are in control of these negotiations not us

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I’d be surprised if Momo hasn’t been discussed

 

[JC99]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.


Well If we’re only going to sign players who want to play here as their first Choice we’re going to be running out with like 3 players next year.

Exactly. As if we are everyone’s number once choice, we suck and there’s at least 10 teams I would join before us if I’m a player looking to have a successful career.

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Or maybe he is prepared to play another year with the Storm until South's are in a position to sign him 2022

Souffs are trying to move heaven and earth ..
Roberts ...gone
Allen ... see ya
Lowe ..medically retired ..
And with the Storms not being able to get there ‘like for like’ deal done I’d say addo Carr will go another year with Melbourne to go to his club of choice being souffs .

They have got cap problems. Latrell re signing and young Joseph Suaalii storyline ain’t over. And high price second rower coming from the Titans.
Plus it’s their forward line that still needs attention.

 

[hobbo1]

We’re going to be signing somebody, why not JAC? We’re in a great position to offer him a truckload for 2022. Once we can nut that out, it’s about trying to get him for 2021.

But come 2022 JAC will have more desirable clubs to go to than ours .

 

[Deleted member 3518]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.

Even at first choice, top dollar plus a player is too much. Storm can go stick it. They can start paying his salary from today.

Won’t be worth it when he goes off and signs somewhere else and we are stuck with a bog average team

I can’t understand how trading someone like Talau or Momers for JAC is too much. We get a top quality player and it’s not like we are still paying the salary of whoever we send off the Melbourne it gives us more cap room

JAC is not on big money either. Melbourne will be happy to pay his contract and play hardball, they are in control of these negotiations not us

I gotta say , I don’t. For a second think he’s the player that puts us over the top . In fact outside of “marquee signing “ I could care less if we have him or not . For me Tamou and stefano , with Blore this year already , plus this kid from the storm , in the development contracts are way more exciting .
Kei could be anything from all reports , and Cini runs like the wind .
Kepoa is pretty quick as well .
If he can organise the defensive line , have good kick returns , cause indecision in sweeping block plays , and support around the middle of the ruck, then that is the fullback I want .
If that’s JAC cool , if it’s Cory Allen , then also cool . Names come and go , DWZ was considered the prize around June last year , now people wouldn’t have him in thier reserve grade side . Same as valentine Holmes .

 

[twentyforty]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.

Even at first choice, top dollar plus a player is too much. Storm can go stick it. They can start paying his salary from today.

Won’t be worth it when he goes off and signs somewhere else and we are stuck with a bog average team

I can’t understand how trading someone like Talau or Momers for JAC is too much. We get a top quality player and it’s not like we are still paying the salary of whoever we send off the Melbourne it gives us more cap room

JAC is not on big money either. Melbourne will be happy to pay his contract and play hardball, they are in control of these negotiations not us

I gotta say , I don’t. For a second think he’s the player that puts us over the top . In fact outside of “marquee signing “ I could care less if we have him or not . For me Tamou and stefano , with Blore this year already , plus this kid from the storm , in the development contracts are way more exciting .
Kei could be anything from all reports , and Cini runs like the wind .
Kepoa is pretty quick as well .
If he can organise the defensive line , have good kick returns , cause indecision in sweeping block plays , and support around the middle of the ruck, then that is the fullback I want .
If that’s JAC cool , if it’s Cory Allen , then also cool . Names come and go , DWZ was considered the prize around June last year , now people wouldn’t have him in thier reserve grade side . Same as valentine Holmes .

No mention of Dillon?

 

[Lauren]

I don't want us to sign anyone unless it actually improves our roster.
Our cap is already heavily tied up on players that only seem to bring our squad numbers up. Therefore, I'd be content with the club withholding for someone else who does this - assuming we don't land JAC.

 

[JC99]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.

Even at first choice, top dollar plus a player is too much. Storm can go stick it. They can start paying his salary from today.

Won’t be worth it when he goes off and signs somewhere else and we are stuck with a bog average team

I can’t understand how trading someone like Talau or Momers for JAC is too much. We get a top quality player and it’s not like we are still paying the salary of whoever we send off the Melbourne it gives us more cap room

JAC is not on big money either. Melbourne will be happy to pay his contract and play hardball, they are in control of these negotiations not us

I gotta say , I don’t. For a second think he’s the player that puts us over the top . In fact outside of “marquee signing “ I could care less if we have him or not . For me Tamou and stefano , with Blore this year already , plus this kid from the storm , in the development contracts are way more exciting .
Kei could be anything from all reports , and Cini runs like the wind .
Kepoa is pretty quick as well .
If he can organise the defensive line , have good kick returns , cause indecision in sweeping block plays , and support around the middle of the ruck, then that is the fullback I want .
If that’s JAC cool , if it’s Cory Allen , then also cool . Names come and go , DWZ was considered the prize around June last year , now people wouldn’t have him in thier reserve grade side . Same as valentine Holmes .

JAC is miles ahead of Allen, Holmes and DWZ. Can’t remember him ever having a bad game, he’s no one season wonder he’s been top class for a while now.

I think all the guys you mentioned are good pickups but we need top level talent in our team right now and that’s JAC. We have 0 origin players for next season and we desperately lack pace in our backline

Not saying signing just him will fix all our problems and get us into finals but it’ll be a massive boost for our club and will improve us on the field a lot, would be an excellent step in the right direction

 

[mike]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.

Even at first choice, top dollar plus a player is too much. Storm can go stick it. They can start paying his salary from today.

Won’t be worth it when he goes off and signs somewhere else and we are stuck with a bog average team

I can’t understand how trading someone like Talau or Momers for JAC is too much. We get a top quality player and it’s not like we are still paying the salary of whoever we send off the Melbourne it gives us more cap room

JAC is not on big money either. Melbourne will be happy to pay his contract and play hardball, they are in control of these negotiations not us

Because you are not just trading a player. You a paying top dollar plus a player.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.

Even at first choice, top dollar plus a player is too much. Storm can go stick it. They can start paying his salary from today.

Won’t be worth it when he goes off and signs somewhere else and we are stuck with a bog average team

I can’t understand how trading someone like Talau or Momers for JAC is too much. We get a top quality player and it’s not like we are still paying the salary of whoever we send off the Melbourne it gives us more cap room

JAC is not on big money either. Melbourne will be happy to pay his contract and play hardball, they are in control of these negotiations not us

I gotta say , I don’t. For a second think he’s the player that puts us over the top . In fact outside of “marquee signing “ I could care less if we have him or not . For me Tamou and stefano , with Blore this year already , plus this kid from the storm , in the development contracts are way more exciting .
Kei could be anything from all reports , and Cini runs like the wind .
Kepoa is pretty quick as well .
If he can organise the defensive line , have good kick returns , cause indecision in sweeping block plays , and support around the middle of the ruck, then that is the fullback I want .
If that’s JAC cool , if it’s Cory Allen , then also cool . Names come and go , DWZ was considered the prize around June last year , now people wouldn’t have him in thier reserve grade side . Same as valentine Holmes .


No mention of Dillon?

Whoever man . That’s my point . Someone said we signed the storms cap and analytics guru . Plus this with I think a smart FM in hartigan and a very good coach , who hopefully puts the right assistants around him , means we can make smarter decisions.
Sometimes that having a clear value put on a player and not going over it . That could mean we pay say a JAC 1.2 mil , because the analysis say he’s that Good , or it means we offer 500k because they don’t believe he’s worth more . ( this is purely hypothetical) .
It’s probably how the storm got Paps and JAC to begin with .

 

[JC99]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.

Even at first choice, top dollar plus a player is too much. Storm can go stick it. They can start paying his salary from today.

Won’t be worth it when he goes off and signs somewhere else and we are stuck with a bog average team

I can’t understand how trading someone like Talau or Momers for JAC is too much. We get a top quality player and it’s not like we are still paying the salary of whoever we send off the Melbourne it gives us more cap room

JAC is not on big money either. Melbourne will be happy to pay his contract and play hardball, they are in control of these negotiations not us

Because you are not just trading a player. You a paying top dollar plus a player.

For an Australian level player in the prime of his career it’s worth it.

We struggle to sign those type of guys and this seems to be the only way to get him so we really can’t afford to let the opportunity slide by.

We’ve got a heap of outside backs and have two outside backs as development players, we can afford to let go of someone like Talau or Momers, it’s no great loss if we are getting JAC in return.

Massive risk ofJAC going elsewhere if we wait around for 2022 and refuse to give anyone up

 

[mike]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.

Even at first choice, top dollar plus a player is too much. Storm can go stick it. They can start paying his salary from today.

Won’t be worth it when he goes off and signs somewhere else and we are stuck with a bog average team

I can’t understand how trading someone like Talau or Momers for JAC is too much. We get a top quality player and it’s not like we are still paying the salary of whoever we send off the Melbourne it gives us more cap room

JAC is not on big money either. Melbourne will be happy to pay his contract and play hardball, they are in control of these negotiations not us

Because you are not just trading a player. You a paying top dollar plus a player.

For an Australian level player in the prime of his career it’s worth it.

We struggle to sign those type of guys and this seems to be the only way to get him so we really can’t afford to let the opportunity slide by.

We’ve got a heap of outside backs and have two outside backs as development players, we can afford to let go of someone like Talau or Momers, it’s no great loss if we are getting JAC in return.

Massive risk ofJAC going elsewhere if we wait around for 2022 and refuse to give anyone up

You think it’s worth it. I don’t. We disagree.

 

[JC99]

Anyway if JAC is willing to come here no reason he can’t sign up for 2022 ASAP, then we can work on a release for next season afterwards. If he’s not willing to properly sign then maybe we move on a little.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.

Even at first choice, top dollar plus a player is too much. Storm can go stick it. They can start paying his salary from today.

Won’t be worth it when he goes off and signs somewhere else and we are stuck with a bog average team

I can’t understand how trading someone like Talau or Momers for JAC is too much. We get a top quality player and it’s not like we are still paying the salary of whoever we send off the Melbourne it gives us more cap room

JAC is not on big money either. Melbourne will be happy to pay his contract and play hardball, they are in control of these negotiations not us

I gotta say , I don’t. For a second think he’s the player that puts us over the top . In fact outside of “marquee signing “ I could care less if we have him or not . For me Tamou and stefano , with Blore this year already , plus this kid from the storm , in the development contracts are way more exciting .
Kei could be anything from all reports , and Cini runs like the wind .
Kepoa is pretty quick as well .
If he can organise the defensive line , have good kick returns , cause indecision in sweeping block plays , and support around the middle of the ruck, then that is the fullback I want .
If that’s JAC cool , if it’s Cory Allen , then also cool . Names come and go , DWZ was considered the prize around June last year , now people wouldn’t have him in thier reserve grade side . Same as valentine Holmes .

JAC is miles ahead of Allen, Holmes and DWZ. Can’t remember him ever having a bad game, he’s no one season wonder he’s been top class for a while now.

I think all the guys you mentioned are good pickups but we need top level talent in our team right now and that’s JAC. We have 0 origin players for next season and we desperately lack pace in our backline

Not saying signing just him will fix all our problems and get us into finals but it’ll be a massive boost for our club and will improve us on the field a lot, would be an excellent step in the right direction

Says who though . Like I just said we have an analytics team now , hopefully they are looking at this as purely in wins . What gets you to wins . Eg . Benji looks amazing , does some amazing things , but we never win with him . Cam smith , what did he ever do that made you go WOW! ? But he always won . Of course they’re both extremely obvious examples , and to scout discarded players and youth football would be like black magic to do it right , but we have to do something different . We can’t be the Roosters , lakers , Yankees types of the world who sign the best players to the most money . We have to be smarter .

 

[JC99]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.

Even at first choice, top dollar plus a player is too much. Storm can go stick it. They can start paying his salary from today.

Won’t be worth it when he goes off and signs somewhere else and we are stuck with a bog average team

I can’t understand how trading someone like Talau or Momers for JAC is too much. We get a top quality player and it’s not like we are still paying the salary of whoever we send off the Melbourne it gives us more cap room

JAC is not on big money either. Melbourne will be happy to pay his contract and play hardball, they are in control of these negotiations not us

I gotta say , I don’t. For a second think he’s the player that puts us over the top . In fact outside of “marquee signing “ I could care less if we have him or not . For me Tamou and stefano , with Blore this year already , plus this kid from the storm , in the development contracts are way more exciting .
Kei could be anything from all reports , and Cini runs like the wind .
Kepoa is pretty quick as well .
If he can organise the defensive line , have good kick returns , cause indecision in sweeping block plays , and support around the middle of the ruck, then that is the fullback I want .
If that’s JAC cool , if it’s Cory Allen , then also cool . Names come and go , DWZ was considered the prize around June last year , now people wouldn’t have him in thier reserve grade side . Same as valentine Holmes .

JAC is miles ahead of Allen, Holmes and DWZ. Can’t remember him ever having a bad game, he’s no one season wonder he’s been top class for a while now.

I think all the guys you mentioned are good pickups but we need top level talent in our team right now and that’s JAC. We have 0 origin players for next season and we desperately lack pace in our backline

Not saying signing just him will fix all our problems and get us into finals but it’ll be a massive boost for our club and will improve us on the field a lot, would be an excellent step in the right direction

Says who though . Like I just said we have an analytics team now , hopefully they are looking at this as purely in wins . What gets you to wins . Eg . Benji looks amazing , does some amazing things , but we never win with him . Cam smith , what did he ever do that made you go WOW! ? But he always won . Of course they’re both extremely obvious examples , and to scout discarded players and youth football would be like black magic to do it right , but we have to do something different . We can’t be the Roosters , lakers , Yankees types of the world who sign the best players to the most money . We have to be smarter .

It’s pretty clear to see JAC is one of the best and has been for a few years now. He’s in the Australian and origin teams for a reason. I agree we have to be smart, guys like Tamou and Stefano are smart signings but so is JAC

 

[Deleted member 3518]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.

Even at first choice, top dollar plus a player is too much. Storm can go stick it. They can start paying his salary from today.

Won’t be worth it when he goes off and signs somewhere else and we are stuck with a bog average team

I can’t understand how trading someone like Talau or Momers for JAC is too much. We get a top quality player and it’s not like we are still paying the salary of whoever we send off the Melbourne it gives us more cap room

JAC is not on big money either. Melbourne will be happy to pay his contract and play hardball, they are in control of these negotiations not us

I gotta say , I don’t. For a second think he’s the player that puts us over the top . In fact outside of “marquee signing “ I could care less if we have him or not . For me Tamou and stefano , with Blore this year already , plus this kid from the storm , in the development contracts are way more exciting .
Kei could be anything from all reports , and Cini runs like the wind .
Kepoa is pretty quick as well .
If he can organise the defensive line , have good kick returns , cause indecision in sweeping block plays , and support around the middle of the ruck, then that is the fullback I want .
If that’s JAC cool , if it’s Cory Allen , then also cool . Names come and go , DWZ was considered the prize around June last year , now people wouldn’t have him in thier reserve grade side . Same as valentine Holmes .

JAC is miles ahead of Allen, Holmes and DWZ. Can’t remember him ever having a bad game, he’s no one season wonder he’s been top class for a while now.

I think all the guys you mentioned are good pickups but we need top level talent in our team right now and that’s JAC. We have 0 origin players for next season and we desperately lack pace in our backline

Not saying signing just him will fix all our problems and get us into finals but it’ll be a massive boost for our club and will improve us on the field a lot, would be an excellent step in the right direction

Says who though . Like I just said we have an analytics team now , hopefully they are looking at this as purely in wins . What gets you to wins . Eg . Benji looks amazing , does some amazing things , but we never win with him . Cam smith , what did he ever do that made you go WOW! ? But he always won . Of course they’re both extremely obvious examples , and to scout discarded players and youth football would be like black magic to do it right , but we have to do something different . We can’t be the Roosters , lakers , Yankees types of the world who sign the best players to the most money . We have to be smarter .

It’s pretty clear to see JAC is one of the best and has been for a few years now. He’s in the Australian and origin teams for a reason. I agree we have to be smart, guys like Tamou and Stefano are smart signings but so is JAC.

Ok in a vacuum sure . Is he a smart signing for 1.2 mil? Is he a smart signing for 1 mil ? For 900k ? For 800k ? At what point does it tip from smart to madness ? Would you pay Tedesco 2.5 mil ? Madness right ?
It’s all relative . And if we are investing in an analytics team , and are making educated decisions instead of “gut feeling” , emotional choices , Like “he’s an origin player , he’s never had a bad game “. Then I’m ok with that. You’re probably right , the eye test and stats back each other up. But what if they don’t ? What if signing JAC has a zero point , and then it’s a huge negative . What position is valued higher than others ie. if you make a bad choice how much is it going to negatively affect your chances of winning ? I dunno , there’s smarter people than me out there , actually employed by the club , and actually influencing signings as we speak .

 

[momo_amp_medo]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.

Even at first choice, top dollar plus a player is too much. Storm can go stick it. They can start paying his salary from today.

Won’t be worth it when he goes off and signs somewhere else and we are stuck with a bog average team

I can’t understand how trading someone like Talau or Momers for JAC is too much. We get a top quality player and it’s not like we are still paying the salary of whoever we send off the Melbourne it gives us more cap room

JAC is not on big money either. Melbourne will be happy to pay his contract and play hardball, they are in control of these negotiations not us

Because you are not just trading a player. You a paying top dollar plus a player.

For an Australian level player in the prime of his career it’s worth it.

We struggle to sign those type of guys and this seems to be the only way to get him so we really can’t afford to let the opportunity slide by.

We’ve got a heap of outside backs and have two outside backs as development players, we can afford to let go of someone like Talau or Momers, it’s no great loss if we are getting JAC in return.

Massive risk ofJAC going elsewhere if we wait around for 2022 and refuse to give anyone up

You think it’s worth it. I don’t. We disagree.

I’m on “I don’t” side.

 

[momo_amp_medo]

‘The club is expected to soon turn its attention onto Josh Addo-Carr, who wants to move to Sydney next season for family reasons. Wests Tigers have a four-year deal on the table, but he won't be released unless a suitable replacement is secured. Given the Tigers don't have a player they are willing to offer in return, Canterbury and South Sydney could be options for Addo-Carr, particularly given Reimus Smith is a player the Bulldogs want to trade.‘

Our refusal to trade anyone might just cost us his signature. Not sure we’re in the position to play hardball

Sorry, we are willing to give him a top level contract, why would we give up a player we won't to keep as well? That puts his price too high for me.

Because we need top talent.... whoever we will be giving them wouldn’t even be close to JAC’s level. If it’s the only way to get him then we have to at least entertain the idea. We are not in a position to let top level talent walk on by yet again.

Not if they don't want to be here anyway.

Sounds like he does, it’s Melbourne blocking his way here.

He has a desire to play at Souths

Weidler saying he’s agreed to join us and waiting on a release. I’m sure he would like to play at Souths too but he’s happy to be here.

I never trust Weidler's info.

I'm not saying he won't be here, but we are not his 1st choice, you do not give up a player if you are someone's 2nd or 3rd choice.

Weidler is a germ but his info is normally solid

If we were his last choice but we could still get him I’d do it. He’s that good and you know he’ll give his all on the field

When people have other preferences that will at times use you as a stepping stone to get to where they want to be. The absolute worse case scenario for us is we give up a player and then in 12 months a position becomes available at JAC's first choice club and he starts agitating for a release. That is the risk you take when you take people when you are not their 1st choice.

You have that risk signing anyone though especially at our club. You have to make sure they’re welcome at the club and love it here, look how much Harry loved his time here. Not every player is out to use as as a stepping stone and do us dirty by screwing us

When you know you're not the 1st choice it is not worth the risk of giving up a player. We are not JAC's 1st choice.

Even at first choice, top dollar plus a player is too much. Storm can go stick it. They can start paying his salary from today.

Won’t be worth it when he goes off and signs somewhere else and we are stuck with a bog average team

I can’t understand how trading someone like Talau or Momers for JAC is too much. We get a top quality player and it’s not like we are still paying the salary of whoever we send off the Melbourne it gives us more cap room

JAC is not on big money either. Melbourne will be happy to pay his contract and play hardball, they are in control of these negotiations not us

I gotta say , I don’t. For a second think he’s the player that puts us over the top . In fact outside of “marquee signing “ I could care less if we have him or not . For me Tamou and stefano , with Blore this year already , plus this kid from the storm , in the development contracts are way more exciting .
Kei could be anything from all reports , and Cini runs like the wind .
Kepoa is pretty quick as well .
If he can organise the defensive line , have good kick returns , cause indecision in sweeping block plays , and support around the middle of the ruck, then that is the fullback I want .
If that’s JAC cool , if it’s Cory Allen , then also cool . Names come and go , DWZ was considered the prize around June last year , now people wouldn’t have him in thier reserve grade side . Same as valentine Holmes .

JAC is miles ahead of Allen, Holmes and DWZ. Can’t remember him ever having a bad game, he’s no one season wonder he’s been top class for a while now.

I think all the guys you mentioned are good pickups but we need top level talent in our team right now and that’s JAC. We have 0 origin players for next season and we desperately lack pace in our backline

Not saying signing just him will fix all our problems and get us into finals but it’ll be a massive boost for our club and will improve us on the field a lot, would be an excellent step in the right direction

Says who though . Like I just said we have an analytics team now , hopefully they are looking at this as purely in wins . What gets you to wins . Eg . Benji looks amazing , does some amazing things , but we never win with him . Cam smith , what did he ever do that made you go WOW! ? But he always won . Of course they’re both extremely obvious examples , and to scout discarded players and youth football would be like black magic to do it right , but we have to do something different . We can’t be the Roosters , lakers , Yankees types of the world who sign the best players to the most money . We have to be smarter .

It’s pretty clear to see JAC is one of the best and has been for a few years now. He’s in the Australian and origin teams for a reason. I agree we have to be smart, guys like Tamou and Stefano are smart signings but so is JAC.

Ok in a vacuum sure . Is he a smart signing for 1.2 mil? Is he a smart signing for 1 mil ? For 900k ? For 800k ? At what point does it tip from smart to madness ? Would you pay Tedesco 2.5 mil ? Madness right ?
It’s all relative . And if we are investing in an analytics team , and are making educated decisions instead of “gut feeling” , emotional choices , Like “he’s an origin player , he’s never had a bad game “. Then I’m ok with that. You’re probably right , the eye test and stats back each other up. But what if they don’t ? What if signing JAC has a zero point , and then it’s a huge negative . What position is valued higher than others ie. if you make a bad choice how much is it going to negatively affect your chances of winning ? I dunno , there’s smarter people than me out there , actually employed by the club , and actually influencing signings as we speak .

Well you do that at your own risk.
It can come apart and pear shaped very quickly.
Teddy is a long term risk simply because his running style and he does have a history of bad injuries. He may be over them but then again he is only one game away from a long stint on sideline ..... for 5 year escalating +$1.2M contract ....
Naaaaaaaaaaaah!