JAC

[JD Tiger]

We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and **wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy**. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Ah no, wingers are still not one of the most important* positions in modern footy.
We have seen quite a few wingers trying to sell themselves as fullbacks when it's contract times so they can get more money, because financially wingers are seen as one of the lowest if not the the lowest financially rewarded position.

Although wingers are more important than they were in previous years, they still are imo the least important position on the park.

Just because they don’t get paid as much as the big positions doesn’t mean they’re not important... wingers are getting paid more and more every year. Centres get paid the least out of everyone most Of the time

Wingers score all your tries for a start they have to be fast, good in the air and be able to work magic and score those jumping tries in the corner. They also do more work than props up the middle most of the time doing dirty carries all game long without a break.

Wingers will be getting paid more and more every year as they get better and better. Like I said every good team has top quality wingers. If you have crap wingers you will find it a lot harder to score points and win games

The comment that every good team has top quality wingers doesn't hold, as every good team has top quality in almost all positions across the park.

I agree with you that wingers seem to be more important than centres these days, though strongly disagree that a winger does more work than a prop up the middle. If that were true, then every team play 4 wingers and 0 props.

 

[JC99]

We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and **wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy**. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Ah no, wingers are still not one of the most important* positions in modern footy.
We have seen quite a few wingers trying to sell themselves as fullbacks when it's contract times so they can get more money, because financially wingers are seen as one of the lowest if not the the lowest financially rewarded position.

Although wingers are more important than they were in previous years, they still are imo the least important position on the park.

Just because they don’t get paid as much as the big positions doesn’t mean they’re not important... wingers are getting paid more and more every year. Centres get paid the least out of everyone most Of the time

Wingers score all your tries for a start they have to be fast, good in the air and be able to work magic and score those jumping tries in the corner. They also do more work than props up the middle most of the time doing dirty carries all game long without a break.

Wingers will be getting paid more and more every year as they get better and better. Like I said every good team has top quality wingers. If you have crap wingers you will find it a lot harder to score points and win games

The comment that every good team has top quality wingers doesn't hold, as every good team has top quality in almost all positions across the park.

I agree with you that wingers seem to be more important than centres these days, though strongly disagree that a winger does more work than a prop up the middle. If that were true, then every team play 4 wingers and 0 props.

Defensively props do more work for sure. Some wingers run the ball more than props Nofa runs way more than any of our forwards. Daniel Tupou has one run every set for roosters.

Dirty hitups are mostly wingers. Off the back of a kick you’ll see 3 runs by outside backs before a forward gets there a lot of the time all depends on field position though if you’re catching it in your own 20 you use wingers if you catch it on halfway you use forwards

 

[pawsandclaws1]

i dont know why anyones jizzin over jac the is guy is playing in a gun side down at the storm which makes his game look a whole lot better a lot different playin with us wait till he plays with an ordinary side then youll see if hes any good or not

Hey Walter, he was scoring those tries in a weak WTs' side before moving to the Storm. He is a very good player which is reflected in SOO and Kangaroo selection.

 

[twentyforty]

So who’s signature is it on the HOA?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Good post. Note also both Grand Final teams had specialist wingers, not centres put on the wing.

 

[twentyforty]

We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Good post. Note also both Grand Final teams had specialist wingers, not centres put on the wing.

There’s no doubting the quality, skill and impetus JAC would bring to a club, or the value of top quality wingers. Let me put this to you? If there were as many quality halves as there are wingers, would their price tag be similar?

 

[JD Tiger]

We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and **wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy**. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Ah no, wingers are still not one of the most important* positions in modern footy.
We have seen quite a few wingers trying to sell themselves as fullbacks when it's contract times so they can get more money, because financially wingers are seen as one of the lowest if not the the lowest financially rewarded position.

Although wingers are more important than they were in previous years, they still are imo the least important position on the park.

Just because they don’t get paid as much as the big positions doesn’t mean they’re not important... wingers are getting paid more and more every year. Centres get paid the least out of everyone most Of the time

Wingers score all your tries for a start they have to be fast, good in the air and be able to work magic and score those jumping tries in the corner. They also do more work than props up the middle most of the time doing dirty carries all game long without a break.

Wingers will be getting paid more and more every year as they get better and better. Like I said every good team has top quality wingers. If you have crap wingers you will find it a lot harder to score points and win games

The comment that every good team has top quality wingers doesn't hold, as every good team has top quality in almost all positions across the park.

I agree with you that wingers seem to be more important than centres these days, though strongly disagree that a winger does more work than a prop up the middle. If that were true, then every team play 4 wingers and 0 props.

Defensively props do more work for sure. Some wingers run the ball more than props Nofa runs way more than any of our forwards. Daniel Tupou has one run every set for roosters.

Dirty hitups are mostly wingers. Off the back of a kick you’ll see 3 runs by outside backs before a forward gets there a lot of the time all depends on field position though if you’re catching it in your own 20 you use wingers if you catch it on halfway you use forwards

And how many teams are there that can say their 'winger' is their best player?
Not just in today's game but ever?

There's not many (if any).

 

[weststigerman]

We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and **wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy**. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Ah no, wingers are still not one of the most important* positions in modern footy.
We have seen quite a few wingers trying to sell themselves as fullbacks when it's contract times so they can get more money, because financially wingers are seen as one of the lowest if not the the lowest financially rewarded position.

Although wingers are more important than they were in previous years, they still are imo the least important position on the park.

Just because they don’t get paid as much as the big positions doesn’t mean they’re not important... wingers are getting paid more and more every year. Centres get paid the least out of everyone most Of the time

Wingers score all your tries for a start they have to be fast, good in the air and be able to work magic and score those jumping tries in the corner. They also do more work than props up the middle most of the time doing dirty carries all game long without a break.

Wingers will be getting paid more and more every year as they get better and better. Like I said every good team has top quality wingers. If you have crap wingers you will find it a lot harder to score points and win games

The comment that every good team has top quality wingers doesn't hold, as every good team has top quality in almost all positions across the park.

I agree with you that wingers seem to be more important than centres these days, though strongly disagree that a winger does more work than a prop up the middle. If that were true, then every team play 4 wingers and 0 props.

Defensively props do more work for sure. Some wingers run the ball more than props Nofa runs way more than any of our forwards. Daniel Tupou has one run every set for roosters.

Dirty hitups are mostly wingers. Off the back of a kick you’ll see 3 runs by outside backs before a forward gets there a lot of the time all depends on field position though if you’re catching it in your own 20 you use wingers if you catch it on halfway you use forwards

I think the way the game has gone, wingers are much more important to sides, I'd argue more important than Second rowers or centres simply because they touch the ball more.

The way I see it positions of importance: Halves, Fullback, Hooker, Middle 3, Wing, Second Row, Centre.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and **wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy**. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Ah no, wingers are still not one of the most important* positions in modern footy.
We have seen quite a few wingers trying to sell themselves as fullbacks when it's contract times so they can get more money, because financially wingers are seen as one of the lowest if not the the lowest financially rewarded position.

Although wingers are more important than they were in previous years, they still are imo the least important position on the park.

Just because they don’t get paid as much as the big positions doesn’t mean they’re not important... wingers are getting paid more and more every year. Centres get paid the least out of everyone most Of the time

Wingers score all your tries for a start they have to be fast, good in the air and be able to work magic and score those jumping tries in the corner. They also do more work than props up the middle most of the time doing dirty carries all game long without a break.

Wingers will be getting paid more and more every year as they get better and better. Like I said every good team has top quality wingers. If you have crap wingers you will find it a lot harder to score points and win games

The comment that every good team has top quality wingers doesn't hold, as every good team has top quality in almost all positions across the park.

I agree with you that wingers seem to be more important than centres these days, though strongly disagree that a winger does more work than a prop up the middle. If that were true, then every team play 4 wingers and 0 props.

Defensively props do more work for sure. Some wingers run the ball more than props Nofa runs way more than any of our forwards. Daniel Tupou has one run every set for roosters.

Dirty hitups are mostly wingers. Off the back of a kick you’ll see 3 runs by outside backs before a forward gets there a lot of the time all depends on field position though if you’re catching it in your own 20 you use wingers if you catch it on halfway you use forwards

And how many teams are there that can say their 'winger' is their best player?
Not just in today's game but ever?

There's not many (if any).

Ken Irvine for North Sydney Bears pretty much carried that team

 

[pawsandclaws1]

We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Good post. Note also both Grand Final teams had specialist wingers, not centres put on the wing.

There’s no doubting the quality, skill and impetus JAC would bring to a club, or the value of top quality wingers. Let me put this to you? If there were as many quality halves as there are wingers, would their price tag be similar?

Supply and demand with halves so the price reflects shortage of quality.

I don't see too many top quality wingers either. JAC and Vunavalu are imo the best. The Panthers' duo were exposed for lack of genuine pace in the GF which is an issue NRL wide. JAC's price tag reflects he is a match winner with the ability to turn half chances into tries anywhere on the field.

 

[fibrodreaming]

We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and **wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy**. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Ah no, wingers are still not one of the most important* positions in modern footy.
We have seen quite a few wingers trying to sell themselves as fullbacks when it's contract times so they can get more money, because financially wingers are seen as one of the lowest if not the the lowest financially rewarded position.

Although wingers are more important than they were in previous years, they still are imo the least important position on the park.

Just because they don’t get paid as much as the big positions doesn’t mean they’re not important... wingers are getting paid more and more every year. Centres get paid the least out of everyone most Of the time

Wingers score all your tries for a start they have to be fast, good in the air and be able to work magic and score those jumping tries in the corner. They also do more work than props up the middle most of the time doing dirty carries all game long without a break.

Wingers will be getting paid more and more every year as they get better and better. Like I said every good team has top quality wingers. If you have crap wingers you will find it a lot harder to score points and win games

The comment that every good team has top quality wingers doesn't hold, as every good team has top quality in almost all positions across the park.

I agree with you that wingers seem to be more important than centres these days, though strongly disagree that a winger does more work than a prop up the middle. If that were true, then every team play 4 wingers and 0 props.

Defensively props do more work for sure. Some wingers run the ball more than props Nofa runs way more than any of our forwards. Daniel Tupou has one run every set for roosters.

Dirty hitups are mostly wingers. Off the back of a kick you’ll see 3 runs by outside backs before a forward gets there a lot of the time all depends on field position though if you’re catching it in your own 20 you use wingers if you catch it on halfway you use forwards

And how many teams are there that can say their 'winger' is their best player?
Not just in today's game but ever?

There's not many (if any).

Ken Irvine for North Sydney Bears pretty much carried that team

You beat me to it. Probably the greatest of all wingers, certainly his try scoring record still stands. He played most of his career in a struggle-street Bears team that rarely made the finals.

 

[JD Tiger]

We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and **wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy**. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Ah no, wingers are still not one of the most important* positions in modern footy.
We have seen quite a few wingers trying to sell themselves as fullbacks when it's contract times so they can get more money, because financially wingers are seen as one of the lowest if not the the lowest financially rewarded position.

Although wingers are more important than they were in previous years, they still are imo the least important position on the park.

Just because they don’t get paid as much as the big positions doesn’t mean they’re not important... wingers are getting paid more and more every year. Centres get paid the least out of everyone most Of the time

Wingers score all your tries for a start they have to be fast, good in the air and be able to work magic and score those jumping tries in the corner. They also do more work than props up the middle most of the time doing dirty carries all game long without a break.

Wingers will be getting paid more and more every year as they get better and better. Like I said every good team has top quality wingers. If you have crap wingers you will find it a lot harder to score points and win games

The comment that every good team has top quality wingers doesn't hold, as every good team has top quality in almost all positions across the park.

I agree with you that wingers seem to be more important than centres these days, though strongly disagree that a winger does more work than a prop up the middle. If that were true, then every team play 4 wingers and 0 props.

Defensively props do more work for sure. Some wingers run the ball more than props Nofa runs way more than any of our forwards. Daniel Tupou has one run every set for roosters.

Dirty hitups are mostly wingers. Off the back of a kick you’ll see 3 runs by outside backs before a forward gets there a lot of the time all depends on field position though if you’re catching it in your own 20 you use wingers if you catch it on halfway you use forwards

And how many teams are there that can say their 'winger' is their best player?
Not just in today's game but ever?

There's not many (if any).

Ken Irvine for North Sydney Bears pretty much carried that team

You beat me to it. Probably the greatest of all wingers, certainly his try scoring record still stands. He played most of his career in a struggle-street Bears team that rarely made the finals.

A great winger. When did he play, 50 odd years ago? So fair to say that a team with a winger as their best player is not that common.

I still hope we get JAC, but I doubt we will, and I won't be too disappointed now if we miss him, just disappointed in him.

 

[851]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

I dont live in that head space where i think good players will leave us.

They only did that when we had muppets like Taylor as coach.

Agree as Madge has only lost the players that he has wanted to lose so this says to me the good ones understand what he is building and want to stay.. I have big wraps on Madge and also stick up for him in posts.
I still think Tommy is yet to prove himself (he may well turn into a rep player) but the reward to letting him go would be a actually Rep player in his prime and not a player with potential.

We lost Matterson, I am pretty sure we didn’t want to lose him, he was our best player last year

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Yea , but the dude was a douchebag . He went to a team that seems to recruit dudes with a reputation for being a douchebag . Moses , Matterson , RCG, Fergo, Jennings . Seems like he found his home .

Cue ; but they win games arguement that doesn’t factor in the point I’m making that the culture of that club suits those people types of players , that we would never win with them here .

 

[damjom]

Who would you give him. Nofo ? Talau ?

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

wingers are probably more important these days than centres
in the past you had
Reg Gasnier
Mal Meninga
Renouf

Wingers now take the dirty hit ups and start your sets and score those miraculous tries
Centres these days can just be a big body/ second rower like Crichton etc doesn't have to be a speed merchant

 

[Guest]

i dont know why anyones jizzin over jac the is guy is playing in a gun side down at the storm which makes his game look a whole lot better a lot different playin with us wait till he plays with an ordinary side then youll see if hes any good or not

He went alright for us in his debut season, in a side which didn't make the finals. Don't kid yourself walter, he's good.

 

[JC99]

We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and **wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy**. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Ah no, wingers are still not one of the most important* positions in modern footy.
We have seen quite a few wingers trying to sell themselves as fullbacks when it's contract times so they can get more money, because financially wingers are seen as one of the lowest if not the the lowest financially rewarded position.

Although wingers are more important than they were in previous years, they still are imo the least important position on the park.

Just because they don’t get paid as much as the big positions doesn’t mean they’re not important... wingers are getting paid more and more every year. Centres get paid the least out of everyone most Of the time

Wingers score all your tries for a start they have to be fast, good in the air and be able to work magic and score those jumping tries in the corner. They also do more work than props up the middle most of the time doing dirty carries all game long without a break.

Wingers will be getting paid more and more every year as they get better and better. Like I said every good team has top quality wingers. If you have crap wingers you will find it a lot harder to score points and win games

The comment that every good team has top quality wingers doesn't hold, as every good team has top quality in almost all positions across the park.

I agree with you that wingers seem to be more important than centres these days, though strongly disagree that a winger does more work than a prop up the middle. If that were true, then every team play 4 wingers and 0 props.

Defensively props do more work for sure. Some wingers run the ball more than props Nofa runs way more than any of our forwards. Daniel Tupou has one run every set for roosters.

Dirty hitups are mostly wingers. Off the back of a kick you’ll see 3 runs by outside backs before a forward gets there a lot of the time all depends on field position though if you’re catching it in your own 20 you use wingers if you catch it on halfway you use forwards

And how many teams are there that can say their 'winger' is their best player?
Not just in today's game but ever?

There's not many (if any).

Ken Irvine for North Sydney Bears pretty much carried that team

You beat me to it. Probably the greatest of all wingers, certainly his try scoring record still stands. He played most of his career in a struggle-street Bears team that rarely made the finals.

A great winger. When did he play, 50 odd years ago? So fair to say that a team with a winger as their best player is not that common.

I still hope we get JAC, but I doubt we will, and I won't be too disappointed now if we miss him, just disappointed in him.

Disappointed in him for not getting a release from Melbourne makes sense ??‍♂️

 

[JD Tiger]

We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger... a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half....

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger.... If we get him it will be on our terms.

Way to try discredit how good JAC is. He’s plenty more than just ‘speedy’ and **wingers are one of the most important positions in modern footy**. Name a top 4 team with crap wingers, they all have gun ones. He would be the best player in our team by a long long way, we have zero origin players as well

Ah no, wingers are still not one of the most important* positions in modern footy.
We have seen quite a few wingers trying to sell themselves as fullbacks when it's contract times so they can get more money, because financially wingers are seen as one of the lowest if not the the lowest financially rewarded position.

Although wingers are more important than they were in previous years, they still are imo the least important position on the park.

Just because they don’t get paid as much as the big positions doesn’t mean they’re not important... wingers are getting paid more and more every year. Centres get paid the least out of everyone most Of the time

Wingers score all your tries for a start they have to be fast, good in the air and be able to work magic and score those jumping tries in the corner. They also do more work than props up the middle most of the time doing dirty carries all game long without a break.

Wingers will be getting paid more and more every year as they get better and better. Like I said every good team has top quality wingers. If you have crap wingers you will find it a lot harder to score points and win games

The comment that every good team has top quality wingers doesn't hold, as every good team has top quality in almost all positions across the park.

I agree with you that wingers seem to be more important than centres these days, though strongly disagree that a winger does more work than a prop up the middle. If that were true, then every team play 4 wingers and 0 props.

Defensively props do more work for sure. Some wingers run the ball more than props Nofa runs way more than any of our forwards. Daniel Tupou has one run every set for roosters.

Dirty hitups are mostly wingers. Off the back of a kick you’ll see 3 runs by outside backs before a forward gets there a lot of the time all depends on field position though if you’re catching it in your own 20 you use wingers if you catch it on halfway you use forwards

And how many teams are there that can say their 'winger' is their best player?
Not just in today's game but ever?

There's not many (if any).

Ken Irvine for North Sydney Bears pretty much carried that team

You beat me to it. Probably the greatest of all wingers, certainly his try scoring record still stands. He played most of his career in a struggle-street Bears team that rarely made the finals.

A great winger. When did he play, 50 odd years ago? So fair to say that a team with a winger as their best player is not that common.

I still hope we get JAC, but I doubt we will, and I won't be too disappointed now if we miss him, just disappointed in him.

Disappointed in him for not getting a release from Melbourne makes sense ??‍♂️

He could sign right now with us for 2022. He chooses not to. That's nothing to do with Storm.

You have said before words to the effect of he would be silly to sign a year and a half ahead. I disagree. There is nothing silly about it, if that's what he wants to do. It's looking more and more like he hasn't signed with us because he doesn't want to sign with us. Again, that's nothing to do with Storm.

 

[rustycage]

The cumulative impact of losing Koroibete, Simona, JAC has been underestimated. Imagine a WTs' backline with those three players present. There us no substitute for genuine pace and the ability to finish. Any club would suffer from these losses.

Recruitment at its worst. Just one of them stayed would be good. Except simona imo he shouldn’t be talked about as a loss

Simona should not be talked about period... just an absolute LOWLIFE.

....and he wasn't that good either.

Rubbish. Simona was a very good footballer. He made some poor decisions but is entitled to forgiveness.

Simona was an excellent player. Just a terrible person

He had a gambling addiction - not sure that equates to being a terrible person. He made some bad choices related to that but he has paid a heavier price for his errors - more so than most players who have done wrong.

Selling non existent signed jerseys to the highest bidder and pressuring women to get abortions isn’t really a quality human being IMO.

Edit: didn’t he also bet on first try scorers he was marking?

Yes. Blaming his activities on a gambling addiction is far from accurate. He was just not a very ethical bloke. Actually, his actions towards others were disgraceful. And he would have known very well what he was doing.