JAC

[the_third]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

Which guys can play centre though better than Talau. No doubt JAC improves our team but if we lose Talau to get him without at least someone as good coming through the nett gain is insignificant. So who replaces Talau in your opinion.

Talau didn’t impress me at centre at all. Momirovski can do a solid job there, Doueihi can play if he’s not at 5/8 too.

I’m the opposite. Momo tried hard but never really showed anything game breaking. Talau showed glimpses.

It’s almost like momo thought too much at times or something like that, maybe didn’t trust himself and that he had strength. Can’t really put my finger on it. Still a good player, much respect for his comeback after a terrible start.

I thought Talau was better on the wing. He’s not particularly fast, he hasn’t shown much footwork or great line running. He looks solid but don’t see much X factor in him. Maybe with more experience and confidence we will see it more I hope

Yup either way I think the jury is out. Neither seem a game breaker, but who knows what we will assay in 12 months

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

Says it’s news to him

Surely it's a rumour to him?

 

[hsvjones]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

 

[tony soprano]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

And there’s risk of another papz situation if they don’t want a loan deal then they can get beat.

 

[cochise]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

 

[The_Patriot]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

I dont live in that head space where i think good players will leave us.

They only did that when we had muppets like Taylor as coach.

 

[the_third]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

Regardless of what he does - he’s not matterson or Cleary

 

[The_Patriot]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

What would happen is that we would finish 9th.

Again.

 

[hsvjones]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

To be fair to JAC he has not chucked a "Matterson" on the storm and if he signed a long term deal at our club on good money its a good sign he wants to be here. I still think it won't happen and he will be at Souths but if we could trade a player I was in charge I would do it if players agreed. .

 

[cochise]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

To be fair to JAC he has not chucked a "Matterson" on the storm and if he signed a long term deal at our club on good money its a good sign he wants to be here. I still think it won't happen and he will be at Souths but if we could trade a player I was in charge I would do it if players agreed. .

He however wants to be at Souths, that is the exact reason I wouldn't trade for him

 

[hsvjones]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

I dont live in that head space where i think good players will leave us.

They only did that when we had muppets like Taylor as coach.

Agree as Madge has only lost the players that he has wanted to lose so this says to me the good ones understand what he is building and want to stay.. I have big wraps on Madge and also stick up for him in posts.
I still think Tommy is yet to prove himself (he may well turn into a rep player) but the reward to letting him go would be a actually Rep player in his prime and not a player with potential.

 

[hsvjones]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

To be fair to JAC he has not chucked a "Matterson" on the storm and if he signed a long term deal at our club on good money its a good sign he wants to be here. I still think it won't happen and he will be at Souths but if we could trade a player I was in charge I would do it if players agreed. .

He however wants to be at Souths, that is the exact reason I wouldn't trade for him

But if he signed a 4 year deal that is enough for me to say yes to him... Besides Bennett leaves after next season and there 6 & 7 are both turning 31 next year so they will be going downwards when Wayne leaves and he would know this.

 

[cochise]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

To be fair to JAC he has not chucked a "Matterson" on the storm and if he signed a long term deal at our club on good money its a good sign he wants to be here. I still think it won't happen and he will be at Souths but if we could trade a player I was in charge I would do it if players agreed. .

He however wants to be at Souths, that is the exact reason I wouldn't trade for him

But if he signed a 4 year deal that is enough for me to say yes to him... Besides Bennett leaves after next season and there 6 & 7 are both turning 31 next year so they will be going downwards when Wayne leaves and he would know this.

He is not going there for Wayne, he wants to play with his mates.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

To be fair to JAC he has not chucked a "Matterson" on the storm and if he signed a long term deal at our club on good money its a good sign he wants to be here. I still think it won't happen and he will be at Souths but if we could trade a player I was in charge I would do it if players agreed. .

He however wants to be at Souths, that is the exact reason I wouldn't trade for him

But if he signed a 4 year deal that is enough for me to say yes to him... Besides Bennett leaves after next season and there 6 & 7 are both turning 31 next year so they will be going downwards when Wayne leaves and he would know this.

He is not going there for Wayne, he wants to play with his mates.

Yeah I think this was pretty damn obvious from the beginning, we were never getting him. Surprised we are letting him string us along, have we learned nothing from the sordid negotiations with Mitchell last year?

 

[JC99]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

You have that risk with literally every player you ever sign though, it’s no reason to not sign players.

 

[JC99]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

To be fair to JAC he has not chucked a "Matterson" on the storm and if he signed a long term deal at our club on good money its a good sign he wants to be here. I still think it won't happen and he will be at Souths but if we could trade a player I was in charge I would do it if players agreed. .

He however wants to be at Souths, that is the exact reason I wouldn't trade for him

But if he signed a 4 year deal that is enough for me to say yes to him... Besides Bennett leaves after next season and there 6 & 7 are both turning 31 next year so they will be going downwards when Wayne leaves and he would know this.

He is not going there for Wayne, he wants to play with his mates.

Yeah I think this was pretty damn obvious from the beginning, we were never getting him. Surprised we are letting him string us along, have we learned nothing from the sordid negotiations with Mitchell last year?

Latrell didn’t join so we should just not bother talking to players about joining us unless they instantly agree and don’t talk to other clubs?

 

[cochise]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

You have that risk with literally every player you ever sign though, it’s no reason to not sign players.

Depends if you know that's what he wants.

 

[JC99]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

You have that risk with literally every player you ever sign though, it’s no reason to not sign players.

Depends if you know that's what he wants.

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

You have that risk with literally every player you ever sign though, it’s no reason to not sign players.

Depends if you know that's what he wants.

Only he truly knows that. If he’s willing to sign a four year deal we will have to accept that. If he doesn’t want to sign not much we can do.

 

[cochise]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

You have that risk with literally every player you ever sign though, it’s no reason to not sign players.

Depends if you know that's what he wants.

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.

I understand that and of course it would be Tommy choice.. But what would everyone think when his time next year he signs elsewhere and we have to start looking around for replacement when we could of had JAC 1 year into a 4 year deal.. Culture is important but so is making the team better and JAC would do that.. But here, we may of already asked him and he said no so this is just hypothetical and good banter until we announce a signing in Feb. :slightly_smiling_face:

What happens if we trade him and 12 months into JAC's contract a spot becomes available at the club he really wants to be at so he starts agitating for a release?

You have that risk with literally every player you ever sign though, it’s no reason to not sign players.

Depends if you know that's what he wants.

Only he truly knows that. If he’s willing to sign a four year deal we will have to accept that. If he doesn’t want to sign not much we can do.

Exactly you can't force someone to come

 

[Russell]

I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

Therefore it is not like for like.