JAC

[tiga4eva]

He will be here by December. Melbourne will release him. I dont think if he really wants to be in Sydney with family that they will drag it for another year.

If that was the case, why would both Clubs go through that whole exercise today. We couldn’t seal the deal, he’s not coming, never was, we don’t sign elite players. I hate Hooper with a passion, but hes always right about us. We can’t sign a player

 

[Blocktiger]

We should give them packer to play wing and a free 1 year membership to weight watcher as a bonus. A winger on top class prop money.

 

[happy_tiger]

So 24 pages after I went to work ...what happened ...Jack Buchanan is back in black

 

[BAGNF05]

Don’t see us offering burton as much as bulldogs. He looked alright but he’s not worth $500k a season already.

Panthers want him to stay bad. He’s better than good.

I wanna see him play more footy. He had one good game but the others he was quiet but solid. Sure could come good but offering $500k is jumping the gun

No room for him at Penrith Luai and Cleary are fat better players at the moment

A massive part of recruitment is buying before they are proven

You’re right but giving them huge money before they’ve properly played is a huge risk that’s never ever worked for us in the past. Not sure he’s at the level where he should be getting huge money as a couple games rookie.

We are interested in him apparently so we’ll see what happens. Probably will just go to bulldogs with Barrett

I’ve watched him twice. First game he took an injury hit team into golden point and had the confidence to have a few shots at FG. He then came on and scored a nice solo try first touch in another game. Barrett coached him and is chasing him. How much evidence is needed?

Twice?

You walk into NRL and in two games you look like a seasoned pro, you’re going places. His frame and everything else point to big things. Sure I could be wrong but in 18 months time if we’re still on here moaning about recruitment and he’s playing rep footy, I’ll let you know about it ?

I'm not saying he won't have a good career, but its not smart to talk him up like you are after 2 games. Brooks was considered the next Andrew Johns after his debut.

You have watched him play 2 games, I will trust our recruitment teams, who have way more data on him and have seen him play many more than 2 games, to get his value right over the 2 games you have watched.

Ok, so maybe he isn’t our number one target, but what is the strategy? our recruitment team should have a list of all players available, ranked in order of quality and suitability to WT and they should be systematically working through making offers to the players on that list to get the best available squad. I’m seeing no sign of this. I’m seeing a long winded dart board strategy. Of all this supposed youth we rave about on here McIntyre has looked good. Blore had a good game. I like AD but we probably paid overs. There’s not enough evidence for me to remain patient (after 9 years of mediocrity). Some will want to wait and see I’m simply trying to suggest our failings in the hope we try something else.

 

[happy_tiger]

So 24 pages after I went to work ...what happened ...Jack Buchanan is back in black

Sorry 34 pages ...read our official statement

No mention on where we are at for 2022 ....that's strange unless they can't handle the truth

 

[cochise]

Don’t see us offering burton as much as bulldogs. He looked alright but he’s not worth $500k a season already.

Panthers want him to stay bad. He’s better than good.

I wanna see him play more footy. He had one good game but the others he was quiet but solid. Sure could come good but offering $500k is jumping the gun

No room for him at Penrith Luai and Cleary are fat better players at the moment

A massive part of recruitment is buying before they are proven

You’re right but giving them huge money before they’ve properly played is a huge risk that’s never ever worked for us in the past. Not sure he’s at the level where he should be getting huge money as a couple games rookie.

We are interested in him apparently so we’ll see what happens. Probably will just go to bulldogs with Barrett

I’ve watched him twice. First game he took an injury hit team into golden point and had the confidence to have a few shots at FG. He then came on and scored a nice solo try first touch in another game. Barrett coached him and is chasing him. How much evidence is needed?

Twice?

You walk into NRL and in two games you look like a seasoned pro, you’re going places. His frame and everything else point to big things. Sure I could be wrong but in 18 months time if we’re still on here moaning about recruitment and he’s playing rep footy, I’ll let you know about it ?

I'm not saying he won't have a good career, but its not smart to talk him up like you are after 2 games. Brooks was considered the next Andrew Johns after his debut.

You have watched him play 2 games, I will trust our recruitment teams, who have way more data on him and have seen him play many more than 2 games, to get his value right over the 2 games you have watched.

Ok, so maybe he isn’t our number one target, but what is the strategy? our recruitment team should have a list of all players available, ranked in order of quality and suitability to WT and they should be systematically working through making offers to the players on that list to get the best available squad. I’m seeing no sign of this. I’m seeing a long winded dart board strategy. Of all this supposed youth we rave about on here McIntyre has looked good. Blore had a good game. I like AD but we probably paid overs. There’s not enough evidence for me to remain patient (after 9 years of mediocrity). Some will want to wait and see I’m simply trying to suggest our failings in the hope we try something else.

That is exactly what they are doing, they have an archetype of what they are looking for in each position and then they are analysing data to help find players that match that archetype. They then closely examine the players that match what they are looking for, watching them play, meeting with them for example and also determine whether they match the values, culture and approach of the club, all before targeting them to join the club.

 

[BAGNF05]

Don’t see us offering burton as much as bulldogs. He looked alright but he’s not worth $500k a season already.

Panthers want him to stay bad. He’s better than good.

I wanna see him play more footy. He had one good game but the others he was quiet but solid. Sure could come good but offering $500k is jumping the gun

No room for him at Penrith Luai and Cleary are fat better players at the moment

A massive part of recruitment is buying before they are proven

You’re right but giving them huge money before they’ve properly played is a huge risk that’s never ever worked for us in the past. Not sure he’s at the level where he should be getting huge money as a couple games rookie.

We are interested in him apparently so we’ll see what happens. Probably will just go to bulldogs with Barrett

I’ve watched him twice. First game he took an injury hit team into golden point and had the confidence to have a few shots at FG. He then came on and scored a nice solo try first touch in another game. Barrett coached him and is chasing him. How much evidence is needed?

Twice?

You walk into NRL and in two games you look like a seasoned pro, you’re going places. His frame and everything else point to big things. Sure I could be wrong but in 18 months time if we’re still on here moaning about recruitment and he’s playing rep footy, I’ll let you know about it ?

I'm not saying he won't have a good career, but its not smart to talk him up like you are after 2 games. Brooks was considered the next Andrew Johns after his debut.

You have watched him play 2 games, I will trust our recruitment teams, who have way more data on him and have seen him play many more than 2 games, to get his value right over the 2 games you have watched.

Ok, so maybe he isn’t our number one target, but what is the strategy? our recruitment team should have a list of all players available, ranked in order of quality and suitability to WT and they should be systematically working through making offers to the players on that list to get the best available squad. I’m seeing no sign of this. I’m seeing a long winded dart board strategy. Of all this supposed youth we rave about on here McIntyre has looked good. Blore had a good game. I like AD but we probably paid overs. There’s not enough evidence for me to remain patient (after 9 years of mediocrity). Some will want to wait and see I’m simply trying to suggest our failings in the hope we try something else.

That is exactly what they are doing, they have an archetype of what they are looking for in each position and then they are analysing data to help find players that match that archetype. They then closely examine the players that match what they are looking for, watching them play, meeting with them for example and also determine whether they match the values, culture and approach of the club, all before targeting them to join the club.

They’re over complicating it then. Go out and get the best 25 players you possibly can and put the right structures in place for them to succeed. And your best work needs to be done when you put a contract in front of them, not in the data room.

 

[cochise]

Don’t see us offering burton as much as bulldogs. He looked alright but he’s not worth $500k a season already.

Panthers want him to stay bad. He’s better than good.

I wanna see him play more footy. He had one good game but the others he was quiet but solid. Sure could come good but offering $500k is jumping the gun

No room for him at Penrith Luai and Cleary are fat better players at the moment

A massive part of recruitment is buying before they are proven

You’re right but giving them huge money before they’ve properly played is a huge risk that’s never ever worked for us in the past. Not sure he’s at the level where he should be getting huge money as a couple games rookie.

We are interested in him apparently so we’ll see what happens. Probably will just go to bulldogs with Barrett

I’ve watched him twice. First game he took an injury hit team into golden point and had the confidence to have a few shots at FG. He then came on and scored a nice solo try first touch in another game. Barrett coached him and is chasing him. How much evidence is needed?

Twice?

You walk into NRL and in two games you look like a seasoned pro, you’re going places. His frame and everything else point to big things. Sure I could be wrong but in 18 months time if we’re still on here moaning about recruitment and he’s playing rep footy, I’ll let you know about it ?

I'm not saying he won't have a good career, but its not smart to talk him up like you are after 2 games. Brooks was considered the next Andrew Johns after his debut.

You have watched him play 2 games, I will trust our recruitment teams, who have way more data on him and have seen him play many more than 2 games, to get his value right over the 2 games you have watched.

Ok, so maybe he isn’t our number one target, but what is the strategy? our recruitment team should have a list of all players available, ranked in order of quality and suitability to WT and they should be systematically working through making offers to the players on that list to get the best available squad. I’m seeing no sign of this. I’m seeing a long winded dart board strategy. Of all this supposed youth we rave about on here McIntyre has looked good. Blore had a good game. I like AD but we probably paid overs. There’s not enough evidence for me to remain patient (after 9 years of mediocrity). Some will want to wait and see I’m simply trying to suggest our failings in the hope we try something else.

That is exactly what they are doing, they have an archetype of what they are looking for in each position and then they are analysing data to help find players that match that archetype. They then closely examine the players that match what they are looking for, watching them play, meeting with them for example and also determine whether they match the values, culture and approach of the club, all before targeting them to join the club.

They’re over complicating it then. Go out and get the best 25 players you possibly can and put the right structures in place for them to succeed. And your best work needs to be done when you put a contract in front of them, not in the data room.

Rubbish, you want to sign a player to a huge contract based on seeing him play twice. I would trust their judgement any day over that.

 

[BAGNF05]

Don’t see us offering burton as much as bulldogs. He looked alright but he’s not worth $500k a season already.

Panthers want him to stay bad. He’s better than good.

I wanna see him play more footy. He had one good game but the others he was quiet but solid. Sure could come good but offering $500k is jumping the gun

No room for him at Penrith Luai and Cleary are fat better players at the moment

A massive part of recruitment is buying before they are proven

You’re right but giving them huge money before they’ve properly played is a huge risk that’s never ever worked for us in the past. Not sure he’s at the level where he should be getting huge money as a couple games rookie.

We are interested in him apparently so we’ll see what happens. Probably will just go to bulldogs with Barrett

I’ve watched him twice. First game he took an injury hit team into golden point and had the confidence to have a few shots at FG. He then came on and scored a nice solo try first touch in another game. Barrett coached him and is chasing him. How much evidence is needed?

Twice?

You walk into NRL and in two games you look like a seasoned pro, you’re going places. His frame and everything else point to big things. Sure I could be wrong but in 18 months time if we’re still on here moaning about recruitment and he’s playing rep footy, I’ll let you know about it ?

I'm not saying he won't have a good career, but its not smart to talk him up like you are after 2 games. Brooks was considered the next Andrew Johns after his debut.

You have watched him play 2 games, I will trust our recruitment teams, who have way more data on him and have seen him play many more than 2 games, to get his value right over the 2 games you have watched.

Ok, so maybe he isn’t our number one target, but what is the strategy? our recruitment team should have a list of all players available, ranked in order of quality and suitability to WT and they should be systematically working through making offers to the players on that list to get the best available squad. I’m seeing no sign of this. I’m seeing a long winded dart board strategy. Of all this supposed youth we rave about on here McIntyre has looked good. Blore had a good game. I like AD but we probably paid overs. There’s not enough evidence for me to remain patient (after 9 years of mediocrity). Some will want to wait and see I’m simply trying to suggest our failings in the hope we try something else.

That is exactly what they are doing, they have an archetype of what they are looking for in each position and then they are analysing data to help find players that match that archetype. They then closely examine the players that match what they are looking for, watching them play, meeting with them for example and also determine whether they match the values, culture and approach of the club, all before targeting them to join the club.

They’re over complicating it then. Go out and get the best 25 players you possibly can and put the right structures in place for them to succeed. And your best work needs to be done when you put a contract in front of them, not in the data room.

Rubbish, you want to sign a player to a huge contract based on seeing him play twice. I would trust their judgement any day over that.

And watching probably 10,000 games of footy in my life. We don’t need to agree here, I’ve picked plenty of rep players off a handful of games. We need people who can do likewise. Not read data.

 

[cochise]

Don’t see us offering burton as much as bulldogs. He looked alright but he’s not worth $500k a season already.

Panthers want him to stay bad. He’s better than good.

I wanna see him play more footy. He had one good game but the others he was quiet but solid. Sure could come good but offering $500k is jumping the gun

No room for him at Penrith Luai and Cleary are fat better players at the moment

A massive part of recruitment is buying before they are proven

You’re right but giving them huge money before they’ve properly played is a huge risk that’s never ever worked for us in the past. Not sure he’s at the level where he should be getting huge money as a couple games rookie.

We are interested in him apparently so we’ll see what happens. Probably will just go to bulldogs with Barrett

I’ve watched him twice. First game he took an injury hit team into golden point and had the confidence to have a few shots at FG. He then came on and scored a nice solo try first touch in another game. Barrett coached him and is chasing him. How much evidence is needed?

Twice?

You walk into NRL and in two games you look like a seasoned pro, you’re going places. His frame and everything else point to big things. Sure I could be wrong but in 18 months time if we’re still on here moaning about recruitment and he’s playing rep footy, I’ll let you know about it ?

I'm not saying he won't have a good career, but its not smart to talk him up like you are after 2 games. Brooks was considered the next Andrew Johns after his debut.

You have watched him play 2 games, I will trust our recruitment teams, who have way more data on him and have seen him play many more than 2 games, to get his value right over the 2 games you have watched.

Ok, so maybe he isn’t our number one target, but what is the strategy? our recruitment team should have a list of all players available, ranked in order of quality and suitability to WT and they should be systematically working through making offers to the players on that list to get the best available squad. I’m seeing no sign of this. I’m seeing a long winded dart board strategy. Of all this supposed youth we rave about on here McIntyre has looked good. Blore had a good game. I like AD but we probably paid overs. There’s not enough evidence for me to remain patient (after 9 years of mediocrity). Some will want to wait and see I’m simply trying to suggest our failings in the hope we try something else.

That is exactly what they are doing, they have an archetype of what they are looking for in each position and then they are analysing data to help find players that match that archetype. They then closely examine the players that match what they are looking for, watching them play, meeting with them for example and also determine whether they match the values, culture and approach of the club, all before targeting them to join the club.

They’re over complicating it then. Go out and get the best 25 players you possibly can and put the right structures in place for them to succeed. And your best work needs to be done when you put a contract in front of them, not in the data room.

Rubbish, you want to sign a player to a huge contract based on seeing him play twice. I would trust their judgement any day over that.

And watching probably 10,000 games of footy in my life. We don’t need to agree here, I’ve picked plenty of rep players off a handful of games. We need people who can do likewise. Not read data.

Mate, you are not on your pat malone having seen a lot of footy. I bet you have called some that haven't made it as well.

 

[BAGNF05]

Don’t see us offering burton as much as bulldogs. He looked alright but he’s not worth $500k a season already.

Panthers want him to stay bad. He’s better than good.

I wanna see him play more footy. He had one good game but the others he was quiet but solid. Sure could come good but offering $500k is jumping the gun

No room for him at Penrith Luai and Cleary are fat better players at the moment

A massive part of recruitment is buying before they are proven

You’re right but giving them huge money before they’ve properly played is a huge risk that’s never ever worked for us in the past. Not sure he’s at the level where he should be getting huge money as a couple games rookie.

We are interested in him apparently so we’ll see what happens. Probably will just go to bulldogs with Barrett

I’ve watched him twice. First game he took an injury hit team into golden point and had the confidence to have a few shots at FG. He then came on and scored a nice solo try first touch in another game. Barrett coached him and is chasing him. How much evidence is needed?

Twice?

You walk into NRL and in two games you look like a seasoned pro, you’re going places. His frame and everything else point to big things. Sure I could be wrong but in 18 months time if we’re still on here moaning about recruitment and he’s playing rep footy, I’ll let you know about it ?

I'm not saying he won't have a good career, but its not smart to talk him up like you are after 2 games. Brooks was considered the next Andrew Johns after his debut.

You have watched him play 2 games, I will trust our recruitment teams, who have way more data on him and have seen him play many more than 2 games, to get his value right over the 2 games you have watched.

Ok, so maybe he isn’t our number one target, but what is the strategy? our recruitment team should have a list of all players available, ranked in order of quality and suitability to WT and they should be systematically working through making offers to the players on that list to get the best available squad. I’m seeing no sign of this. I’m seeing a long winded dart board strategy. Of all this supposed youth we rave about on here McIntyre has looked good. Blore had a good game. I like AD but we probably paid overs. There’s not enough evidence for me to remain patient (after 9 years of mediocrity). Some will want to wait and see I’m simply trying to suggest our failings in the hope we try something else.

That is exactly what they are doing, they have an archetype of what they are looking for in each position and then they are analysing data to help find players that match that archetype. They then closely examine the players that match what they are looking for, watching them play, meeting with them for example and also determine whether they match the values, culture and approach of the club, all before targeting them to join the club.

They’re over complicating it then. Go out and get the best 25 players you possibly can and put the right structures in place for them to succeed. And your best work needs to be done when you put a contract in front of them, not in the data room.

Rubbish, you want to sign a player to a huge contract based on seeing him play twice. I would trust their judgement any day over that.

And watching probably 10,000 games of footy in my life. We don’t need to agree here, I’ve picked plenty of rep players off a handful of games. We need people who can do likewise. Not read data.

Mate, you are not on your pat malone having seen a lot of footy. I bet you have called some that haven't made it as well.

100%. Could name a few for sure.

My point is I don’t feel like our recruitment team have the right skillset, others like you won’t agree. The good thing about this forum is that I can get it off my chest on days like this.

 

[cochise]

Don’t see us offering burton as much as bulldogs. He looked alright but he’s not worth $500k a season already.

Panthers want him to stay bad. He’s better than good.

I wanna see him play more footy. He had one good game but the others he was quiet but solid. Sure could come good but offering $500k is jumping the gun

No room for him at Penrith Luai and Cleary are fat better players at the moment

A massive part of recruitment is buying before they are proven

You’re right but giving them huge money before they’ve properly played is a huge risk that’s never ever worked for us in the past. Not sure he’s at the level where he should be getting huge money as a couple games rookie.

We are interested in him apparently so we’ll see what happens. Probably will just go to bulldogs with Barrett

I’ve watched him twice. First game he took an injury hit team into golden point and had the confidence to have a few shots at FG. He then came on and scored a nice solo try first touch in another game. Barrett coached him and is chasing him. How much evidence is needed?

Twice?

You walk into NRL and in two games you look like a seasoned pro, you’re going places. His frame and everything else point to big things. Sure I could be wrong but in 18 months time if we’re still on here moaning about recruitment and he’s playing rep footy, I’ll let you know about it ?

I'm not saying he won't have a good career, but its not smart to talk him up like you are after 2 games. Brooks was considered the next Andrew Johns after his debut.

You have watched him play 2 games, I will trust our recruitment teams, who have way more data on him and have seen him play many more than 2 games, to get his value right over the 2 games you have watched.

Ok, so maybe he isn’t our number one target, but what is the strategy? our recruitment team should have a list of all players available, ranked in order of quality and suitability to WT and they should be systematically working through making offers to the players on that list to get the best available squad. I’m seeing no sign of this. I’m seeing a long winded dart board strategy. Of all this supposed youth we rave about on here McIntyre has looked good. Blore had a good game. I like AD but we probably paid overs. There’s not enough evidence for me to remain patient (after 9 years of mediocrity). Some will want to wait and see I’m simply trying to suggest our failings in the hope we try something else.

That is exactly what they are doing, they have an archetype of what they are looking for in each position and then they are analysing data to help find players that match that archetype. They then closely examine the players that match what they are looking for, watching them play, meeting with them for example and also determine whether they match the values, culture and approach of the club, all before targeting them to join the club.

They’re over complicating it then. Go out and get the best 25 players you possibly can and put the right structures in place for them to succeed. And your best work needs to be done when you put a contract in front of them, not in the data room.

Rubbish, you want to sign a player to a huge contract based on seeing him play twice. I would trust their judgement any day over that.

And watching probably 10,000 games of footy in my life. We don’t need to agree here, I’ve picked plenty of rep players off a handful of games. We need people who can do likewise. Not read data.

Mate, you are not on your pat malone having seen a lot of footy. I bet you have called some that haven't made it as well.

100%. Could name a few for sure.

My point is I don’t feel like our recruitment team have the right skillset, others like you won’t agree. The good thing about this forum is that I can get it off my chest on days like this.

Adam Hartigan is one of the most impressive individuals we have had involved in the club. For once we might be ahead of the pack here but it will take some time to pay off.

 

[BAGNF05]

Don’t see us offering burton as much as bulldogs. He looked alright but he’s not worth $500k a season already.

Panthers want him to stay bad. He’s better than good.

I wanna see him play more footy. He had one good game but the others he was quiet but solid. Sure could come good but offering $500k is jumping the gun

No room for him at Penrith Luai and Cleary are fat better players at the moment

A massive part of recruitment is buying before they are proven

You’re right but giving them huge money before they’ve properly played is a huge risk that’s never ever worked for us in the past. Not sure he’s at the level where he should be getting huge money as a couple games rookie.

We are interested in him apparently so we’ll see what happens. Probably will just go to bulldogs with Barrett

I’ve watched him twice. First game he took an injury hit team into golden point and had the confidence to have a few shots at FG. He then came on and scored a nice solo try first touch in another game. Barrett coached him and is chasing him. How much evidence is needed?

Twice?

You walk into NRL and in two games you look like a seasoned pro, you’re going places. His frame and everything else point to big things. Sure I could be wrong but in 18 months time if we’re still on here moaning about recruitment and he’s playing rep footy, I’ll let you know about it ?

I'm not saying he won't have a good career, but its not smart to talk him up like you are after 2 games. Brooks was considered the next Andrew Johns after his debut.

You have watched him play 2 games, I will trust our recruitment teams, who have way more data on him and have seen him play many more than 2 games, to get his value right over the 2 games you have watched.

Ok, so maybe he isn’t our number one target, but what is the strategy? our recruitment team should have a list of all players available, ranked in order of quality and suitability to WT and they should be systematically working through making offers to the players on that list to get the best available squad. I’m seeing no sign of this. I’m seeing a long winded dart board strategy. Of all this supposed youth we rave about on here McIntyre has looked good. Blore had a good game. I like AD but we probably paid overs. There’s not enough evidence for me to remain patient (after 9 years of mediocrity). Some will want to wait and see I’m simply trying to suggest our failings in the hope we try something else.

That is exactly what they are doing, they have an archetype of what they are looking for in each position and then they are analysing data to help find players that match that archetype. They then closely examine the players that match what they are looking for, watching them play, meeting with them for example and also determine whether they match the values, culture and approach of the club, all before targeting them to join the club.

They’re over complicating it then. Go out and get the best 25 players you possibly can and put the right structures in place for them to succeed. And your best work needs to be done when you put a contract in front of them, not in the data room.

Rubbish, you want to sign a player to a huge contract based on seeing him play twice. I would trust their judgement any day over that.

And watching probably 10,000 games of footy in my life. We don’t need to agree here, I’ve picked plenty of rep players off a handful of games. We need people who can do likewise. Not read data.

Mate, you are not on your pat malone having seen a lot of footy. I bet you have called some that haven't made it as well.

100%. Could name a few for sure.

My point is I don’t feel like our recruitment team have the right skillset, others like you won’t agree. The good thing about this forum is that I can get it off my chest on days like this.

Adam Hartigan is one of the most impressive individuals we have had involved in the club. For once we might be ahead of the pack here but it will take some time to pay off.

My advice to Adam. If it walks and talks like a duck, it’s a duck. Should have killed the JAC talk 2 months ago. He still has to prove his stripes to me.

 

[cochise]

Don’t see us offering burton as much as bulldogs. He looked alright but he’s not worth $500k a season already.

Panthers want him to stay bad. He’s better than good.

I wanna see him play more footy. He had one good game but the others he was quiet but solid. Sure could come good but offering $500k is jumping the gun

No room for him at Penrith Luai and Cleary are fat better players at the moment

A massive part of recruitment is buying before they are proven

You’re right but giving them huge money before they’ve properly played is a huge risk that’s never ever worked for us in the past. Not sure he’s at the level where he should be getting huge money as a couple games rookie.

We are interested in him apparently so we’ll see what happens. Probably will just go to bulldogs with Barrett

I’ve watched him twice. First game he took an injury hit team into golden point and had the confidence to have a few shots at FG. He then came on and scored a nice solo try first touch in another game. Barrett coached him and is chasing him. How much evidence is needed?

Twice?

You walk into NRL and in two games you look like a seasoned pro, you’re going places. His frame and everything else point to big things. Sure I could be wrong but in 18 months time if we’re still on here moaning about recruitment and he’s playing rep footy, I’ll let you know about it ?

I'm not saying he won't have a good career, but its not smart to talk him up like you are after 2 games. Brooks was considered the next Andrew Johns after his debut.

You have watched him play 2 games, I will trust our recruitment teams, who have way more data on him and have seen him play many more than 2 games, to get his value right over the 2 games you have watched.

Ok, so maybe he isn’t our number one target, but what is the strategy? our recruitment team should have a list of all players available, ranked in order of quality and suitability to WT and they should be systematically working through making offers to the players on that list to get the best available squad. I’m seeing no sign of this. I’m seeing a long winded dart board strategy. Of all this supposed youth we rave about on here McIntyre has looked good. Blore had a good game. I like AD but we probably paid overs. There’s not enough evidence for me to remain patient (after 9 years of mediocrity). Some will want to wait and see I’m simply trying to suggest our failings in the hope we try something else.

That is exactly what they are doing, they have an archetype of what they are looking for in each position and then they are analysing data to help find players that match that archetype. They then closely examine the players that match what they are looking for, watching them play, meeting with them for example and also determine whether they match the values, culture and approach of the club, all before targeting them to join the club.

They’re over complicating it then. Go out and get the best 25 players you possibly can and put the right structures in place for them to succeed. And your best work needs to be done when you put a contract in front of them, not in the data room.

Rubbish, you want to sign a player to a huge contract based on seeing him play twice. I would trust their judgement any day over that.

And watching probably 10,000 games of footy in my life. We don’t need to agree here, I’ve picked plenty of rep players off a handful of games. We need people who can do likewise. Not read data.

Mate, you are not on your pat malone having seen a lot of footy. I bet you have called some that haven't made it as well.

100%. Could name a few for sure.

My point is I don’t feel like our recruitment team have the right skillset, others like you won’t agree. The good thing about this forum is that I can get it off my chest on days like this.

Adam Hartigan is one of the most impressive individuals we have had involved in the club. For once we might be ahead of the pack here but it will take some time to pay off.

My advice to Adam. If it walks and talks like a duck, it’s a duck. Should have killed the JAC talk 2 months ago. He still has to prove his stripes to me.

His value honestly is more in the juniors we recruit and the fringe players we can get here and push to another level because they are the right fit for what we need.

 

[TonyTiger]

The world knows we hunted down Latrell, begged him to take approx $1.25 million per year, driving to Taree to watch him filming himself on Utube with a garden hose during the horrific fires.
JAC said: “I’ll have what he’s having”... sorry buddy, those funds had dried up.

 

[BAGNF05]

Don’t see us offering burton as much as bulldogs. He looked alright but he’s not worth $500k a season already.

Panthers want him to stay bad. He’s better than good.

I wanna see him play more footy. He had one good game but the others he was quiet but solid. Sure could come good but offering $500k is jumping the gun

No room for him at Penrith Luai and Cleary are fat better players at the moment

A massive part of recruitment is buying before they are proven

You’re right but giving them huge money before they’ve properly played is a huge risk that’s never ever worked for us in the past. Not sure he’s at the level where he should be getting huge money as a couple games rookie.

We are interested in him apparently so we’ll see what happens. Probably will just go to bulldogs with Barrett

I’ve watched him twice. First game he took an injury hit team into golden point and had the confidence to have a few shots at FG. He then came on and scored a nice solo try first touch in another game. Barrett coached him and is chasing him. How much evidence is needed?

Twice?

You walk into NRL and in two games you look like a seasoned pro, you’re going places. His frame and everything else point to big things. Sure I could be wrong but in 18 months time if we’re still on here moaning about recruitment and he’s playing rep footy, I’ll let you know about it ?

I'm not saying he won't have a good career, but its not smart to talk him up like you are after 2 games. Brooks was considered the next Andrew Johns after his debut.

You have watched him play 2 games, I will trust our recruitment teams, who have way more data on him and have seen him play many more than 2 games, to get his value right over the 2 games you have watched.

Ok, so maybe he isn’t our number one target, but what is the strategy? our recruitment team should have a list of all players available, ranked in order of quality and suitability to WT and they should be systematically working through making offers to the players on that list to get the best available squad. I’m seeing no sign of this. I’m seeing a long winded dart board strategy. Of all this supposed youth we rave about on here McIntyre has looked good. Blore had a good game. I like AD but we probably paid overs. There’s not enough evidence for me to remain patient (after 9 years of mediocrity). Some will want to wait and see I’m simply trying to suggest our failings in the hope we try something else.

That is exactly what they are doing, they have an archetype of what they are looking for in each position and then they are analysing data to help find players that match that archetype. They then closely examine the players that match what they are looking for, watching them play, meeting with them for example and also determine whether they match the values, culture and approach of the club, all before targeting them to join the club.

They’re over complicating it then. Go out and get the best 25 players you possibly can and put the right structures in place for them to succeed. And your best work needs to be done when you put a contract in front of them, not in the data room.

Rubbish, you want to sign a player to a huge contract based on seeing him play twice. I would trust their judgement any day over that.

And watching probably 10,000 games of footy in my life. We don’t need to agree here, I’ve picked plenty of rep players off a handful of games. We need people who can do likewise. Not read data.

Mate, you are not on your pat malone having seen a lot of footy. I bet you have called some that haven't made it as well.

100%. Could name a few for sure.

My point is I don’t feel like our recruitment team have the right skillset, others like you won’t agree. The good thing about this forum is that I can get it off my chest on days like this.

Adam Hartigan is one of the most impressive individuals we have had involved in the club. For once we might be ahead of the pack here but it will take some time to pay off.

My advice to Adam. If it walks and talks like a duck, it’s a duck. Should have killed the JAC talk 2 months ago. He still has to prove his stripes to me.

His value honestly is more in the juniors we recruit and the fringe players we can get here and push to another level because they are the right fit for what we need.

I think that’s great and necessary, but we flogged a young Aaron Woods for years because he had no experienced helpers. Pro footy is not a forgiving game for kids to learn on the job. He has to land some fish soon.

 

[cochise]

Don’t see us offering burton as much as bulldogs. He looked alright but he’s not worth $500k a season already.

Panthers want him to stay bad. He’s better than good.

I wanna see him play more footy. He had one good game but the others he was quiet but solid. Sure could come good but offering $500k is jumping the gun

No room for him at Penrith Luai and Cleary are fat better players at the moment

A massive part of recruitment is buying before they are proven

You’re right but giving them huge money before they’ve properly played is a huge risk that’s never ever worked for us in the past. Not sure he’s at the level where he should be getting huge money as a couple games rookie.

We are interested in him apparently so we’ll see what happens. Probably will just go to bulldogs with Barrett

I’ve watched him twice. First game he took an injury hit team into golden point and had the confidence to have a few shots at FG. He then came on and scored a nice solo try first touch in another game. Barrett coached him and is chasing him. How much evidence is needed?

Twice?

You walk into NRL and in two games you look like a seasoned pro, you’re going places. His frame and everything else point to big things. Sure I could be wrong but in 18 months time if we’re still on here moaning about recruitment and he’s playing rep footy, I’ll let you know about it ?

I'm not saying he won't have a good career, but its not smart to talk him up like you are after 2 games. Brooks was considered the next Andrew Johns after his debut.

You have watched him play 2 games, I will trust our recruitment teams, who have way more data on him and have seen him play many more than 2 games, to get his value right over the 2 games you have watched.

Ok, so maybe he isn’t our number one target, but what is the strategy? our recruitment team should have a list of all players available, ranked in order of quality and suitability to WT and they should be systematically working through making offers to the players on that list to get the best available squad. I’m seeing no sign of this. I’m seeing a long winded dart board strategy. Of all this supposed youth we rave about on here McIntyre has looked good. Blore had a good game. I like AD but we probably paid overs. There’s not enough evidence for me to remain patient (after 9 years of mediocrity). Some will want to wait and see I’m simply trying to suggest our failings in the hope we try something else.

That is exactly what they are doing, they have an archetype of what they are looking for in each position and then they are analysing data to help find players that match that archetype. They then closely examine the players that match what they are looking for, watching them play, meeting with them for example and also determine whether they match the values, culture and approach of the club, all before targeting them to join the club.

They’re over complicating it then. Go out and get the best 25 players you possibly can and put the right structures in place for them to succeed. And your best work needs to be done when you put a contract in front of them, not in the data room.

Rubbish, you want to sign a player to a huge contract based on seeing him play twice. I would trust their judgement any day over that.

And watching probably 10,000 games of footy in my life. We don’t need to agree here, I’ve picked plenty of rep players off a handful of games. We need people who can do likewise. Not read data.

Mate, you are not on your pat malone having seen a lot of footy. I bet you have called some that haven't made it as well.

100%. Could name a few for sure.

My point is I don’t feel like our recruitment team have the right skillset, others like you won’t agree. The good thing about this forum is that I can get it off my chest on days like this.

Adam Hartigan is one of the most impressive individuals we have had involved in the club. For once we might be ahead of the pack here but it will take some time to pay off.

My advice to Adam. If it walks and talks like a duck, it’s a duck. Should have killed the JAC talk 2 months ago. He still has to prove his stripes to me.

His value honestly is more in the juniors we recruit and the fringe players we can get here and push to another level because they are the right fit for what we need.

I think that’s great and necessary, but we flogged a young Aaron Woods for years because he had no experienced helpers. Pro footy is not a forgiving game for kids to learn on the job. He has to land some fish soon.

Thats exactly why we signed Tamou. Funnily enough it looks like Woods needed that flogging, he hasn't been the same player since he left and was surrounded by better players.

 

[stevo133]

This week they say his staying at storm what is it next week golf!, I can’t take what nrl journalist say according to them his at tigers, bulldogs and rabbits next season so whatever they say I’ll take with a grain of salt coming from a salty tigers fan

 

[cochise]

This week they say his staying at storm what is it next week golf!, I can’t take what nrl journalist say according to them his at tigers, bulldogs and rabbits next season so whatever they say I’ll take with a grain of salt coming from a salty tigers fan

What about what the club said?

 

[BAGNF05]

Don’t see us offering burton as much as bulldogs. He looked alright but he’s not worth $500k a season already.

Panthers want him to stay bad. He’s better than good.

I wanna see him play more footy. He had one good game but the others he was quiet but solid. Sure could come good but offering $500k is jumping the gun

No room for him at Penrith Luai and Cleary are fat better players at the moment

A massive part of recruitment is buying before they are proven

You’re right but giving them huge money before they’ve properly played is a huge risk that’s never ever worked for us in the past. Not sure he’s at the level where he should be getting huge money as a couple games rookie.

We are interested in him apparently so we’ll see what happens. Probably will just go to bulldogs with Barrett

I’ve watched him twice. First game he took an injury hit team into golden point and had the confidence to have a few shots at FG. He then came on and scored a nice solo try first touch in another game. Barrett coached him and is chasing him. How much evidence is needed?

Twice?

You walk into NRL and in two games you look like a seasoned pro, you’re going places. His frame and everything else point to big things. Sure I could be wrong but in 18 months time if we’re still on here moaning about recruitment and he’s playing rep footy, I’ll let you know about it ?

I'm not saying he won't have a good career, but its not smart to talk him up like you are after 2 games. Brooks was considered the next Andrew Johns after his debut.

You have watched him play 2 games, I will trust our recruitment teams, who have way more data on him and have seen him play many more than 2 games, to get his value right over the 2 games you have watched.

Ok, so maybe he isn’t our number one target, but what is the strategy? our recruitment team should have a list of all players available, ranked in order of quality and suitability to WT and they should be systematically working through making offers to the players on that list to get the best available squad. I’m seeing no sign of this. I’m seeing a long winded dart board strategy. Of all this supposed youth we rave about on here McIntyre has looked good. Blore had a good game. I like AD but we probably paid overs. There’s not enough evidence for me to remain patient (after 9 years of mediocrity). Some will want to wait and see I’m simply trying to suggest our failings in the hope we try something else.

That is exactly what they are doing, they have an archetype of what they are looking for in each position and then they are analysing data to help find players that match that archetype. They then closely examine the players that match what they are looking for, watching them play, meeting with them for example and also determine whether they match the values, culture and approach of the club, all before targeting them to join the club.

They’re over complicating it then. Go out and get the best 25 players you possibly can and put the right structures in place for them to succeed. And your best work needs to be done when you put a contract in front of them, not in the data room.

Rubbish, you want to sign a player to a huge contract based on seeing him play twice. I would trust their judgement any day over that.

And watching probably 10,000 games of footy in my life. We don’t need to agree here, I’ve picked plenty of rep players off a handful of games. We need people who can do likewise. Not read data.

Mate, you are not on your pat malone having seen a lot of footy. I bet you have called some that haven't made it as well.

100%. Could name a few for sure.

My point is I don’t feel like our recruitment team have the right skillset, others like you won’t agree. The good thing about this forum is that I can get it off my chest on days like this.

Adam Hartigan is one of the most impressive individuals we have had involved in the club. For once we might be ahead of the pack here but it will take some time to pay off.

My advice to Adam. If it walks and talks like a duck, it’s a duck. Should have killed the JAC talk 2 months ago. He still has to prove his stripes to me.

His value honestly is more in the juniors we recruit and the fringe players we can get here and push to another level because they are the right fit for what we need.

I think that’s great and necessary, but we flogged a young Aaron Woods for years because he had no experienced helpers. Pro footy is not a forgiving game for kids to learn on the job. He has to land some fish soon.

Thats exactly why we signed Tamou. Funnily enough it looks like Woods needed that flogging, he hasn't been the same player since he left and was surrounded by better players.

Yeah big Woodsy did a WT on the Dogs and Sharks. Overpaid bloke past his prime. I think we needed to give him some help when he was origin class though. He got sick of carrying us.