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The crystal ball tells me if we traded Talau all the flak we will cop in the media in a couple of years time for another young player we failed to recognise who went on to bigger and better things.
 
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231854) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231849) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

It sure would, another year of rebuildin

@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

Another year of mediocrity and missing out on good players. This signing is more than just what he brings on the field it’s about changing the culture of the club as a whole and if we miss out on him because we didn’t want to trade them some half average outside back when it’s the stupidest thing we’ve ever done.

JAC is not going to be the difference between mediocrity and us being an NRL force.

He is a fast winger, that is all. (We at this stage do not have the players to make use of him).

We would be better getting those players first, by the time we get them JAC will be retired.

Well you must be happy for us to stay in the bottom half of the comp then?
He won’t be the whole difference, but he will make a big difference to our team.
We have Tamou (to help guide the forwards), we have a few decent backs, I don’t understand how some can’t see the advantage of having one of the best players in rugby league not being an asset.
To me, we need to be in the top half of the comp to attract better players more easily.
 
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231854) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231849) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

It sure would, another year of rebuildin

@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

Another year of mediocrity and missing out on good players. This signing is more than just what he brings on the field it’s about changing the culture of the club as a whole and if we miss out on him because we didn’t want to trade them some half average outside back when it’s the stupidest thing we’ve ever done.

JAC is not going to be the difference between mediocrity and us being an NRL force.

He is a fast winger, that is all. (We at this stage do not have the players to make use of him).

We would be better getting those players first, by the time we get them JAC will be retired.

Honestly, as long as you have identified your areas of need, you fill them as they become available. Yes we have other areas of need but there are not players available for those areas now, so you fill the ones that are.
 
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231854) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231849) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

It sure would, another year of rebuildin

@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

Another year of mediocrity and missing out on good players. This signing is more than just what he brings on the field it’s about changing the culture of the club as a whole and if we miss out on him because we didn’t want to trade them some half average outside back when it’s the stupidest thing we’ve ever done.

JAC is not going to be the difference between mediocrity and us being an NRL force.

He is a fast winger, that is all. (We at this stage do not have the players to make use of him).

We would be better getting those players first, by the time we get them JAC will be retired.

This outlook makes no sense. Just because he won’t instantly make us a top 8 team we shouldn’t sign him? You’d rather just sign no one decent this year instead of improving the team?

Get JAC on a four year deal and you fix one piece of the puzzle and then you keep slowly improving the team elsewhere. He would bring Australian level quality to the team which we don’t have and he’d be integral in building a new culture.

You can’t just sign 10 good players at once and instantly fix the team you do it slowly and we can’t afford to miss out on one of the best players in the NRL.
 
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1231862) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231854) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231849) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

It sure would, another year of rebuildin

@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

Another year of mediocrity and missing out on good players. This signing is more than just what he brings on the field it’s about changing the culture of the club as a whole and if we miss out on him because we didn’t want to trade them some half average outside back when it’s the stupidest thing we’ve ever done.

JAC is not going to be the difference between mediocrity and us being an NRL force.

He is a fast winger, that is all. (We at this stage do not have the players to make use of him).

We would be better getting those players first, by the time we get them JAC will be retired.

Honestly, as long as you have identified your areas of need, you fill them as they become available. Yes we have other areas of need but there are not players available for those areas now, so you fill the ones that are.

Exactly there no quick fix you improve the team whenever you can and he’s a major improvement. He’s the best player on the market at the moment, we can’t sign any halves and we’ve already snagged a decent prop. Signing him makes so much sense
 
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231845) said:
@hobbo1 said in [JAC](/post/1231841) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231838) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1231802) said:
Give storm Talau for JAC

No

Why not ?

Because we should not have to trade anyone.

We are prepared to pay top money 5-800k (if he gets to play FB) and they want Nofo
who is on something like 450k or Talau who is on 250k + for nothing.

That could take JAC up to 1.05 or 1.25 million. NOT WORTH anything like that.

We wouldn't be paying their salary as well as JAC. They would pick up the salary of whatever player they receive.
 
@Magpie1969 said in [JAC](/post/1231822) said:
We don't need another Laterell circus. Give JAC until the end of October to sign with us or withdraw offer and use money to entice Staines and Burton

The fact ? That we have Tamou now, there is a much better chance of getting either Stains or Burton now
Maybe both

Maybe Addo-Carr is all sorted out to join our club
None of us know for sure
It will all come out in due course
In the mean time
Continue on with speculation everyone

Fullback, Money or Mates
What's it going to be Josh
 
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1231867) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231845) said:
@hobbo1 said in [JAC](/post/1231841) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231838) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1231802) said:
Give storm Talau for JAC

No

Why not ?

Because we should not have to trade anyone.

We are prepared to pay top money 5-800k (if he gets to play FB) and they want Nofo
who is on something like 450k or Talau who is on 250k + for nothing.

That could take JAC up to 1.05 or 1.25 million. NOT WORTH anything like that.

We wouldn't be paying their salary as well as JAC. They would pick up the salary of whatever player they receive.

It could even free up money to sign someone like Hetherington or Staines.
 
@Magpie1969 said in [JAC](/post/1231826) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231824) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [JAC](/post/1231822) said:
We don't need another Laterell circus. Give JAC until the end of October to sign with us or withdraw offer and use money to entice Staines and Burton

It’s not JAC that’s holding up the negotiations, it’s the clubs. Melbourne want a replacement and we don’t want to give them one, obviously They’ve not had much luck elsewhere either

Let them keep Momo and give them Esso to play with Brother. They can have Marshall as well

Marshall isnt under contract
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231865) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1231862) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231854) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231849) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

It sure would, another year of rebuildin

@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

Another year of mediocrity and missing out on good players. This signing is more than just what he brings on the field it’s about changing the culture of the club as a whole and if we miss out on him because we didn’t want to trade them some half average outside back when it’s the stupidest thing we’ve ever done.

JAC is not going to be the difference between mediocrity and us being an NRL force.

He is a fast winger, that is all. (We at this stage do not have the players to make use of him).

We would be better getting those players first, by the time we get them JAC will be retired.

Honestly, as long as you have identified your areas of need, you fill them as they become available. Yes we have other areas of need but there are not players available for those areas now, so you fill the ones that are.

Exactly there no quick fix you improve the team whenever you can and he’s a major improvement. He’s the best player on the market at the moment, we can’t sign any halves and we’ve already snagged a decent prop. Signing him makes so much sense

We don't have the prop yet, don't believe it until you hear it from the club.
 
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1231874) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231865) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1231862) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231854) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231849) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

It sure would, another year of rebuildin

@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

Another year of mediocrity and missing out on good players. This signing is more than just what he brings on the field it’s about changing the culture of the club as a whole and if we miss out on him because we didn’t want to trade them some half average outside back when it’s the stupidest thing we’ve ever done.

JAC is not going to be the difference between mediocrity and us being an NRL force.

He is a fast winger, that is all. (We at this stage do not have the players to make use of him).

We would be better getting those players first, by the time we get them JAC will be retired.

Honestly, as long as you have identified your areas of need, you fill them as they become available. Yes we have other areas of need but there are not players available for those areas now, so you fill the ones that are.

Exactly there no quick fix you improve the team whenever you can and he’s a major improvement. He’s the best player on the market at the moment, we can’t sign any halves and we’ve already snagged a decent prop. Signing him makes so much sense

We don't have the prop yet, don't believe it until you hear it from the club.

‘Within 48 hours’ they reckon ? it seems very likely that we’ve got him, even Gould tweeted that he’s coming here. Hopefully there’s something offical soon
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231876) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1231874) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231865) said:
@cochise said in [JAC](/post/1231862) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231854) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231849) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

It sure would, another year of rebuildin

@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231843) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1231840) said:
@tiger_scott said in [JAC](/post/1231827) said:
He is not our most important signing in a decade, he's a winger. Our most important/heralded was Josh Reynolds and now we are making him feel bad*, trying to offload him at every turn. Spine players and forward leaders are the important ones. The rest are window dressing.

* didn't want to get "joshed", so self edited 🙂

He would be the first current Australian player we’ve ever signed and the first current origin player since Hodgson. He would easily be the best player we’ve signed in at least a decade and would indicate that we’ve turned a corner and that good players want to be here without us paying crazy overs.

It’s an extremely important signing and wingers are one of the most important positions in the modern game. If we play tough and lose him it would be absolutely terrible

Life would go on.

Another year of mediocrity and missing out on good players. This signing is more than just what he brings on the field it’s about changing the culture of the club as a whole and if we miss out on him because we didn’t want to trade them some half average outside back when it’s the stupidest thing we’ve ever done.

JAC is not going to be the difference between mediocrity and us being an NRL force.

He is a fast winger, that is all. (We at this stage do not have the players to make use of him).

We would be better getting those players first, by the time we get them JAC will be retired.

Honestly, as long as you have identified your areas of need, you fill them as they become available. Yes we have other areas of need but there are not players available for those areas now, so you fill the ones that are.

Exactly there no quick fix you improve the team whenever you can and he’s a major improvement. He’s the best player on the market at the moment, we can’t sign any halves and we’ve already snagged a decent prop. Signing him makes so much sense

We don't have the prop yet, don't believe it until you hear it from the club.

‘Within 48 hours’ they reckon ? it seems very likely that we’ve got him, even Gould tweeted that he’s coming here. Hopefully there’s something offical soon

Gould tweeting it doesn't make it so, it is close so hopefully there will be an announcement soon.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1231867) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231845) said:
@hobbo1 said in [JAC](/post/1231841) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231838) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1231802) said:
Give storm Talau for JAC

No

Why not ?

Because we should not have to trade anyone.

We are prepared to pay top money 5-800k (if he gets to play FB) and they want Nofo
who is on something like 450k or Talau who is on 250k + for nothing.

That could take JAC up to 1.05 or 1.25 million. NOT WORTH anything like that.

We wouldn't be paying their salary as well as JAC. They would pick up the salary of whatever player they receive.

Just typed a reply to you and Josh - lost it when I hit the button, not going to retype.

Forget I said anything.
 
Everyone needs to just relax and calm down....it’s all media build up...the club from top to bottom has vastly improved and is no longer the same club to make silly mistakes...as an organisation we are on the up...don’t fall for the bait
 
The main point everyone is missing is we can't send someone there without them wanting to go. Its not the nba or nfl the players have control not the clubs.
 
So much of our potential recruitment would be easier if we could get Reynolds to go to ESL. For whatever reasons he remains hesitant. I hope for his sake Bulldogs under Barrett might make a serious offer that WT can top up if he really wants to remain in Oz. WT won't really make best use of him, we have other longer term options.
 
Melbourne are simply trying to up the ante and force us to panic and release someone we otherwise wouldn't have (Noffa?)

I'm happy for us to play the long game here as we are in a strong position. JAC won't be playing for Melbourne next year and we wants to sign for us. We really don't need to release anyone.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1231867) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231845) said:
@hobbo1 said in [JAC](/post/1231841) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231838) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1231802) said:
Give storm Talau for JAC

No

Why not ?

Because we should not have to trade anyone.

We are prepared to pay top money 5-800k (if he gets to play FB) and they want Nofo
who is on something like 450k or Talau who is on 250k + for nothing.

That could take JAC up to 1.05 or 1.25 million. NOT WORTH anything like that.

We wouldn't be paying their salary as well as JAC. They would pick up the salary of whatever player they receive.

Correct ..
I’m glad @Russell isn't my accountant ?

Love ya Russ !
 
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1231735) said:
Wait until November 1 and sign him for 2022.
Then negotiate with the Storm.

Don't think that makes a difference? Storm already know JAC wants to leave now. Usually you sign the player in advance to put pressure on the incumbent club getting performance / spending money on what has now becomes their definite last year at the club. But with JAC, they already know 2021 is his last year no matter what.

The real question for Storm is do they think they can have JAC perform to his best in 2021 if they force him to stay?

And in Tigers' position, we need to have our own deadline for when our deal lapses, so we can spend the money elsewhere ourselves. Storm can figure out the swap / replacement position on their own.

Melbourne are not in a position of power because nobody want to give an easy trade on a "comparable" footballer to JAC when they all know for sure JAC wants to go back to Sydney.
 
@hobbo1 said in [JAC](/post/1231918) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1231867) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231845) said:
@hobbo1 said in [JAC](/post/1231841) said:
@Russell said in [JAC](/post/1231838) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [JAC](/post/1231802) said:
Give storm Talau for JAC

No

Why not ?

Because we should not have to trade anyone.

We are prepared to pay top money 5-800k (if he gets to play FB) and they want Nofo
who is on something like 450k or Talau who is on 250k + for nothing.

That could take JAC up to 1.05 or 1.25 million. NOT WORTH anything like that.

We wouldn't be paying their salary as well as JAC. They would pick up the salary of whatever player they receive.

Correct ..
I’m glad @Russell isn't my accountant ?

Love ya Russ !

Don't feed the troll Russ
 
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