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@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256062) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1256048) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256023) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1255980) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255899) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255896) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255885) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255883) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255860) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

How so? He's had a good year in attack, poor defensively. He's been on what $450k for how many. years? I don't believe he has been particularly good value for money. for WTs. I get it he is. a Campbelltown junior.

lol I tend to like a lot of what you say , but you’re off your head this time . If you’ve ever been in a team atmosphere you’ll know that releasing/ firing a beloved member is a sure fire way to ruin culture .
Not to mention he’s literally the winger of the year.

We have a losing culture as an earlier poster has stated. To improve it, we need better players. Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine. Yes I have been in situations where good team work determines the outcome and there is far more at stake than a football game.

Nofo is probably our best back at the moment, is loyal and shown great improvement, he is the last person that should be moved on. You seem to have a dislike for the bloke for some reason, so lucky you are not a selector, we have made enough poor decisions over the years.

I'm a realist, Nofoaluma is a club level player. Do we want to improve or continue to fool ourselves.? We need better players. Nofoaluma has reached koala status in some sections. It is not a matter of liking or disliking him. He has received very good renumeration from the Club so it works both ways. The loyalty card is irrelevant when you are trying to improve.

I think there are many, many more of our players to be looked at before Nofo.
Loyalty is relevant if you want to build club culture.

We've failed to make the finals in how many years? We need change. Change for me is not rushing out to buy the biggest names. Strategic purchases like JAC are important because they improve the team and it's culture. How many of our younger players have sat in the dressing shed with a current SOO and Origin player? I'd believe they'd be like sponges watching how JAC prepares for a game ,or how he trains. His impact on our next generation of stars will be huge if we acquire him.
 
@jadtiger said in [JAC](/post/1256076) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256062) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1256048) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256023) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1255980) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255899) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255896) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255885) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255883) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255860) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

How so? He's had a good year in attack, poor defensively. He's been on what $450k for how many. years? I don't believe he has been particularly good value for money. for WTs. I get it he is. a Campbelltown junior.

lol I tend to like a lot of what you say , but you’re off your head this time . If you’ve ever been in a team atmosphere you’ll know that releasing/ firing a beloved member is a sure fire way to ruin culture .
Not to mention he’s literally the winger of the year.

We have a losing culture as an earlier poster has stated. To improve it, we need better players. Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine. Yes I have been in situations where good team work determines the outcome and there is far more at stake than a football game.

Nofo is probably our best back at the moment, is loyal and shown great improvement, he is the last person that should be moved on. You seem to have a dislike for the bloke for some reason, so lucky you are not a selector, we have made enough poor decisions over the years.

I'm a realist, Nofoaluma is a club level player. Do we want to improve or continue to fool ourselves.? We need better players. Nofoaluma has reached koala status in some sections. It is not a matter of liking or disliking him. He has received very good renumeration from the Club so it works both ways. The loyalty card is irrelevant when you are trying to improve.

So you want to get rid of a player who consistently makes more meters than anybody else in the club?Please dont take a job at our club we have had too many decisions like that in the past

Cherry picking is a fine art.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256080) said:
@jadtiger said in [JAC](/post/1256076) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256062) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1256048) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256023) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1255980) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255899) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255896) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255885) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255883) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255860) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

How so? He's had a good year in attack, poor defensively. He's been on what $450k for how many. years? I don't believe he has been particularly good value for money. for WTs. I get it he is. a Campbelltown junior.

lol I tend to like a lot of what you say , but you’re off your head this time . If you’ve ever been in a team atmosphere you’ll know that releasing/ firing a beloved member is a sure fire way to ruin culture .
Not to mention he’s literally the winger of the year.

We have a losing culture as an earlier poster has stated. To improve it, we need better players. Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine. Yes I have been in situations where good team work determines the outcome and there is far more at stake than a football game.

Nofo is probably our best back at the moment, is loyal and shown great improvement, he is the last person that should be moved on. You seem to have a dislike for the bloke for some reason, so lucky you are not a selector, we have made enough poor decisions over the years.

I'm a realist, Nofoaluma is a club level player. Do we want to improve or continue to fool ourselves.? We need better players. Nofoaluma has reached koala status in some sections. It is not a matter of liking or disliking him. He has received very good renumeration from the Club so it works both ways. The loyalty card is irrelevant when you are trying to improve.

So you want to get rid of a player who consistently makes more meters than anybody else in the club?Please dont take a job at our club we have had too many decisions like that in the past

Cherry picking is a fine art.

Not cherry picking but its the players in a team who arent performing you replace not the ones who are going well
 
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1256065) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256062) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1256048) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256023) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1255980) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255899) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255896) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255885) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255883) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255860) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

How so? He's had a good year in attack, poor defensively. He's been on what $450k for how many. years? I don't believe he has been particularly good value for money. for WTs. I get it he is. a Campbelltown junior.

lol I tend to like a lot of what you say , but you’re off your head this time . If you’ve ever been in a team atmosphere you’ll know that releasing/ firing a beloved member is a sure fire way to ruin culture .
Not to mention he’s literally the winger of the year.

We have a losing culture as an earlier poster has stated. To improve it, we need better players. Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine. Yes I have been in situations where good team work determines the outcome and there is far more at stake than a football game.

Nofo is probably our best back at the moment, is loyal and shown great improvement, he is the last person that should be moved on. You seem to have a dislike for the bloke for some reason, so lucky you are not a selector, we have made enough poor decisions over the years.

I'm a realist, Nofoaluma is a club level player. Do we want to improve or continue to fool ourselves.? We need better players. Nofoaluma has reached koala status in some sections. It is not a matter of liking or disliking him. He has received very good renumeration from the Club so it works both ways. The loyalty card is irrelevant when you are trying to improve.

I think there are many, many more of our players to be looked at before Nofo.
Loyalty is relevant if you want to build club culture.

Absolutely! Look what happened when the club moved Gibbs, Heighington and Ryan on to sign Blair! It was a disaster that we’ve never really recovered from. Our team culture was pretty good before that happened, and it’s been a real struggle to build it since. Pushing Nofo out would just put us back to square one again, imo.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256023) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1255980) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255899) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255896) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255885) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255883) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255860) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

How so? He's had a good year in attack, poor defensively. He's been on what $450k for how many. years? I don't believe he has been particularly good value for money. for WTs. I get it he is. a Campbelltown junior.

lol I tend to like a lot of what you say , but you’re off your head this time . If you’ve ever been in a team atmosphere you’ll know that releasing/ firing a beloved member is a sure fire way to ruin culture .
Not to mention he’s literally the winger of the year.

We have a losing culture as an earlier poster has stated. To improve it, we need better players. Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine. Yes I have been in situations where good team work determines the outcome and there is far more at stake than a football game.

Better get rid of your mate AJ if you’re worried about a losing culture. We lost almost every game he played in.

It’s funny how you don’t feel that way about Brooks. Balmain bias perhaps?
 
@jadtiger said in [JAC](/post/1256081) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256080) said:
@jadtiger said in [JAC](/post/1256076) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256062) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1256048) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256023) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1255980) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255899) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255896) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255885) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255883) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255860) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

How so? He's had a good year in attack, poor defensively. He's been on what $450k for how many. years? I don't believe he has been particularly good value for money. for WTs. I get it he is. a Campbelltown junior.

lol I tend to like a lot of what you say , but you’re off your head this time . If you’ve ever been in a team atmosphere you’ll know that releasing/ firing a beloved member is a sure fire way to ruin culture .
Not to mention he’s literally the winger of the year.

We have a losing culture as an earlier poster has stated. To improve it, we need better players. Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine. Yes I have been in situations where good team work determines the outcome and there is far more at stake than a football game.

Nofo is probably our best back at the moment, is loyal and shown great improvement, he is the last person that should be moved on. You seem to have a dislike for the bloke for some reason, so lucky you are not a selector, we have made enough poor decisions over the years.

I'm a realist, Nofoaluma is a club level player. Do we want to improve or continue to fool ourselves.? We need better players. Nofoaluma has reached koala status in some sections. It is not a matter of liking or disliking him. He has received very good renumeration from the Club so it works both ways. The loyalty card is irrelevant when you are trying to improve.

So you want to get rid of a player who consistently makes more meters than anybody else in the club?Please dont take a job at our club we have had too many decisions like that in the past

Cherry picking is a fine art.

Not cherry picking but its the players in a team who arent performing you replace not the ones who are going well

Don't you want your wingers to be able to turn half chances into tries? And I am not referring to chances 10 metres out from your opponent's try line. The example I provided earlier if a try meant making the 8? Our. Wingers should be able to do much more than hit it up as the Storm demonstrated this year.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256062) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1256048) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256023) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1255980) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255899) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255896) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255885) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255883) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255860) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

How so? He's had a good year in attack, poor defensively. He's been on what $450k for how many. years? I don't believe he has been particularly good value for money. for WTs. I get it he is. a Campbelltown junior.

lol I tend to like a lot of what you say , but you’re off your head this time . If you’ve ever been in a team atmosphere you’ll know that releasing/ firing a beloved member is a sure fire way to ruin culture .
Not to mention he’s literally the winger of the year.

We have a losing culture as an earlier poster has stated. To improve it, we need better players. Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine. Yes I have been in situations where good team work determines the outcome and there is far more at stake than a football game.

Nofo is probably our best back at the moment, is loyal and shown great improvement, he is the last person that should be moved on. You seem to have a dislike for the bloke for some reason, so lucky you are not a selector, we have made enough poor decisions over the years.

I'm a realist, Nofoaluma is a club level player. Do we want to improve or continue to fool ourselves.? We need better players. Nofoaluma has reached koala status in some sections. It is not a matter of liking or disliking him. He has received very good renumeration from the Club so it works both ways. The loyalty card is irrelevant when you are trying to improve.


Nofo is exactly the type of player you want in every position. Not even the Roosters ro Storms have a SOO level player in ever position. Yes Nofo is a club level player, not far below SOO selection. If you have a player just short of SOO selection in every position, you win the comp.
 
@joebob said in [JAC](/post/1256044) said:
I know we all love a good second hand bit of info....
I was at the Horse and Jockey pub at Homebush yesterday, which is owned by Laundy the new major sponsor of the Bulldogs. Mr Laundy was there himself and my mate who is a bulldog supporter had a chat with him. He asked about JAC and Laundy said he is going to the Tigers.

In other news, my horses ran close seconds on 6 occasions yesterday and I ran out of money before the end of the day!

If in fact he is coming to us I wouldn't be surprised if he has already signed from 2022 with permission from the storm with 2021 being a sticking point due to storm not getting a like for like replacement

Maybe that's where dog rumours come from as he may have to sign for one year at a club that can offer storm a replacement
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256094) said:
@jadtiger said in [JAC](/post/1256081) said:
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@jadtiger said in [JAC](/post/1256076) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256062) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1256048) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256023) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1255980) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255899) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255896) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255885) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255883) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255860) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

How so? He's had a good year in attack, poor defensively. He's been on what $450k for how many. years? I don't believe he has been particularly good value for money. for WTs. I get it he is. a Campbelltown junior.

lol I tend to like a lot of what you say , but you’re off your head this time . If you’ve ever been in a team atmosphere you’ll know that releasing/ firing a beloved member is a sure fire way to ruin culture .
Not to mention he’s literally the winger of the year.

We have a losing culture as an earlier poster has stated. To improve it, we need better players. Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine. Yes I have been in situations where good team work determines the outcome and there is far more at stake than a football game.

Nofo is probably our best back at the moment, is loyal and shown great improvement, he is the last person that should be moved on. You seem to have a dislike for the bloke for some reason, so lucky you are not a selector, we have made enough poor decisions over the years.

I'm a realist, Nofoaluma is a club level player. Do we want to improve or continue to fool ourselves.? We need better players. Nofoaluma has reached koala status in some sections. It is not a matter of liking or disliking him. He has received very good renumeration from the Club so it works both ways. The loyalty card is irrelevant when you are trying to improve.

So you want to get rid of a player who consistently makes more meters than anybody else in the club?Please dont take a job at our club we have had too many decisions like that in the past

Cherry picking is a fine art.

Not cherry picking but its the players in a team who arent performing you replace not the ones who are going well

Don't you want your wingers to be able to turn half chances into tries? And I am not referring to chances 10 metres out from your opponent's try line. The example I provided earlier if a try meant making the 8? Our. Wingers should be able to do much more than hit it up as the Storm demonstrated this year.

Nofo was amongst the top try scorers in the game and had to do plenty to score many of them.Hardly 10 meters out from his oponents goal line but you are entitled to your opinion even if i believe it is wrong.
 
@weststigerman said in [JAC](/post/1256088) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256023) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1255980) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255899) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255896) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255885) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255883) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255860) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

How so? He's had a good year in attack, poor defensively. He's been on what $450k for how many. years? I don't believe he has been particularly good value for money. for WTs. I get it he is. a Campbelltown junior.

lol I tend to like a lot of what you say , but you’re off your head this time . If you’ve ever been in a team atmosphere you’ll know that releasing/ firing a beloved member is a sure fire way to ruin culture .
Not to mention he’s literally the winger of the year.

We have a losing culture as an earlier poster has stated. To improve it, we need better players. Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine. Yes I have been in situations where good team work determines the outcome and there is far more at stake than a football game.

Better get rid of your mate AJ if you’re worried about a losing culture. We lost almost every game he played in.

It’s funny how you don’t feel that way about Brooks. Balmain bias perhaps?

Is this the young man from the Roosters? He certainly demonstrated pace and finishing. Post again when he is 26.

First it was not liking Nofoaluma and now Balmain bias?
 
You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [JAC](/post/1256087) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1256065) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256062) said:
@TigerWest said in [JAC](/post/1256048) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1256023) said:
@Strongee said in [JAC](/post/1255980) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255899) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255896) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255885) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255883) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255860) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255845) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1255843) said:
@TYGA said in [JAC](/post/1255800) said:
This is good news. We don’t have the cap space to take the chance on a converted fullback at 750k a year. Losing young players on peanuts like Talau who is a starter is a double blow as you can’t replace him for the same money.

If true I would be trying to get Nick Meaney hugely underrated player. Treated poorly at the Dogs he’s the best fullback at the club.

I. would like a current Kangaroo, SOO player and premiership winner. Keep your Meaney's and DWZ's at the Bulldogs.

Meaney can play and would be a better goal kicking option than anyone we have. Fox is a gun but he’s a winger if it’s huge money it’s a risk we can’t take and lose a young player. It’s all relative.

What, Joey Leilua is on what $500k? Paying JAC $750k is a bargain. He's three times the player Leilua will ever be.

How many wingers do the roosters, Storm pay 750k? Losing a player we want like Talau on $250k and having to pay 450k to replace him makes zero sense. This is the issue it’s not in isolation. You will then spend 1.1m on a centre and a winger taking a punt he’s a fullback.

It could work but it’s the type of wild punt we can’t afford. BJ, Reynolds, Packer contracts have no relevance to doing a deal for a new player.

I’d pay Fox the contract we proposed any day but it won’t happen that way. He will want big money whether he plays wing or fullback and the Storm want Nofa or Talau.

I've posted it way back, recruit JAC and Saab. Nofoaluma to Storm.

If you release Nofa it will kill the culture of the squad. Have to keep your own that perform strongly. We should learn from past mistakes.

How so? He's had a good year in attack, poor defensively. He's been on what $450k for how many. years? I don't believe he has been particularly good value for money. for WTs. I get it he is. a Campbelltown junior.

lol I tend to like a lot of what you say , but you’re off your head this time . If you’ve ever been in a team atmosphere you’ll know that releasing/ firing a beloved member is a sure fire way to ruin culture .
Not to mention he’s literally the winger of the year.

We have a losing culture as an earlier poster has stated. To improve it, we need better players. Moving Nofoaluma along to gain a much better player is fine. Yes I have been in situations where good team work determines the outcome and there is far more at stake than a football game.

Nofo is probably our best back at the moment, is loyal and shown great improvement, he is the last person that should be moved on. You seem to have a dislike for the bloke for some reason, so lucky you are not a selector, we have made enough poor decisions over the years.

I'm a realist, Nofoaluma is a club level player. Do we want to improve or continue to fool ourselves.? We need better players. Nofoaluma has reached koala status in some sections. It is not a matter of liking or disliking him. He has received very good renumeration from the Club so it works both ways. The loyalty card is irrelevant when you are trying to improve.

I think there are many, many more of our players to be looked at before Nofo.
Loyalty is relevant if you want to build club culture.

Absolutely! Look what happened when the club moved Gibbs, Heighington and Ryan on to sign Blair! It was a disaster that we’ve never really recovered from. Our team culture was pretty good before that happened, and it’s been a real struggle to build it since. Pushing Nofo out would just put us back to square one again, imo.

Yeah if you took your JAC coloured sun glasses off you’d find it’s impossible to swap nofo after the way he carried himself on and off the field.
 
@tigger19 said in [JAC](/post/1256102) said:
You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites

One reason tigers can’t get it done due to No one to swap and storm playing hardball
 
@tigger19 said in [JAC](/post/1256102) said:
You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites


Yes this is certainly the most logical way of looking at the JAC signing. Looking at those teams rosters and where they need strengthening, the Bulldogs really need to concentrate on buying decent halves and a hooker. They’d be mad to throw all their money at JAC and have nothing left to sign players in those key positions. If they go into next season with the same halves and hooker then having JAC in the backline won’t make a squat of difference and can kiss all their hopes goodbye. Surely Barrett, as a former half, can see this.

JAC is not what they need, they’ve already bought another SOO winger in Cotric and I think Meaney does a pretty good job for them at fullback. Not to mention if DWZ got back to his best he would be great! I don’t know what has happened to him actually, he started out great when he first signed with them, perhaps he is just not happy there.

Souths simply do not need another back, they are already stacked with quality backs and if JAC went there he would be competing with his mate Mitchell for the fullback spot, which is just ridiculous really since they only just courted Mitchell to play in that spot last year! Before his injury he certainly showed signs that he would become a very good fullback, imo and if he is injured long term fullback can be well and truly covered by either Allen or Johnston.

The Tigers are really the only team of those 3 that need JAC and can hand him the fullback role for him to make his own, no questions asked. I believe we are probably the ones with the best offer on the table also. So, logically JAC to us is a no brainer really, but logic doesn’t account for a person’s heart or emotions and if JAC ‘s heart isn’t in playing for us, then logic goes out the window and he signs elsewhere. What can ya do?

There is also the possibility I guess of another Sydney club coming out of left field and snaring his signature under the noses of all us, who knows?
 
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@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1255796) said:
If he does go to Dogs I would be curious as to why. We can seemingly offer him just as good money, maybe a little worse, but what’s swaying his decision? His past experiences at the club? Not a fan of Madge? Thinks our club is crap? We need to figure out why someone like him wouldn’t want to be here and fix it. The obvious answer is our results but problem is we can’t get results unless we sign better players ?

Money pure and simple.

Or

Bulldogs are selling him a bright future with the money they are prepared to spend to achieve premiership success. Their new sponsor is splashing cash.

We can sell the pics of a centre of excellence and juniors coming through. No instant success.will take time.

The word is Dogs have offered us DWZ heavily subsidised. Tigers won’t bite until Fox makes a call. Madge believes he can get back to a rep level fullback. It’s the smart play although he was bad last year.

Absolute NO from me - Best days are well behind him.
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [JAC](/post/1256112) said:
@tigger19 said in [JAC](/post/1256102) said:
You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites


Yes this is certainly the most logical way of looking at the JAC signing. Looking at those teams rosters and where they need strengthening, the Bulldogs really need to concentrate on buying decent halves and a hooker. They’d be mad to throw all their money at JAC and have nothing left to sign players in those key positions. If they go into next season with the same halves and hooker then having JAC in the backline won’t make a squat of difference and can kiss all their hopes goodbye. Surely Barrett, as a former half, can see this.

JAC is not what they need, they’ve already bought another SOO winger in Cotric and I think Meaney does a pretty good job for them at fullback. Not to mention if DWZ got back to his best he would be great! I don’t know what has happened to him actually, he started out great when he first signed with them, perhaps he is just not happy there.

Souths simply do not need another back, they are already stacked with quality backs and if JAC went there he would be competing with his mate Mitchell for the fullback spot, which is just ridiculous really since they only just courted Mitchell to play in that spot last year! Before his injury he certainly showed signs that he would become a very good fullback, imo and if he is injured long term fullback can be well and truly covered by either Allen or Johnston.

The Tigers are really the only team of those 3 that need JAC and can hand him the fullback role for him to make his own, no questions asked. I believe we are probably the ones with the best offer on the table also. So, logically JAC to us is a no brainer really, but logic doesn’t account for a person’s heart or emotions and if JAC ‘s heart isn’t in playing for us, then logic goes out the window and he signs elsewhere. What can ya do?

There is also the possibility I guess of another Sydney club coming out of left field and snaring his signature under the noses of all us, who knows?


Has anyone heard of any other club which has tabled an offer to JAC? Does anyone find that odd? I mean, given the quality of player he is?
From memory WT were the only club to table an offer to Mitchell. I’m not drawing any conclusion here, just eluding to a pattern of similarity.
 
@tigger19 said in [JAC](/post/1256102) said:
You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites


I really hope we are having a crack at Burton although I have seen nothing. Yes JAC would be great but he is still probably a winger.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1256126) said:
@tigger19 said in [JAC](/post/1256102) said:
You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites


I really hope we are having a crack at Burton although I have seen nothing. Yes JAC would be great but he is still probably a winger.

Article the other day says we’re still the only club with an official contract on offer
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1256127) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1256126) said:
@tigger19 said in [JAC](/post/1256102) said:
You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites


I really hope we are having a crack at Burton although I have seen nothing. Yes JAC would be great but he is still probably a winger.

Article the other day says we’re still the only club with an official contract on offer


For who?
 
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1256128) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1256127) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1256126) said:
@tigger19 said in [JAC](/post/1256102) said:
You would think that bulldogs would be trying to sign burton for 2022 and keeping room in there cap for 2021 if released early,possibly having a shot at Brandon Smith or another hooker that becomes available..so again cap room needed,even if DWZ and Smith are moved on and they get some relief you would think JAC is not a priority to them,maybe they are just trying to boost his asking price to make Tigers or Souths pay more,Souths backs signed for next year are Mitchell,Gagai,Burns,Campbell-Graham,Deniss,Allan,Johnstone,Milne,Moga,Paulo,Marsters,If they move on Roberts and Allan and sign JAC,backs to forwards ratio is way off for a squad of 30,maybe Tigers are still favourites


I really hope we are having a crack at Burton although I have seen nothing. Yes JAC would be great but he is still probably a winger.

Article the other day says we’re still the only club with an official contract on offer


For who?

Sorry, replied to the wrong post. Was meant to reply to the guy asking if any other clubs had offered JAC a deal, was saying only we have apparently
 
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