Jackson Hastings #251

[glange]

Back on topic. Is Brooks worth keeping for his defence over Hastings if this rumour is true? That Hastings is coming immediately

We have 2 roster spots and cap space available for Hastings immediately without releasing anyone..

Good point. The insinuation of the rumour mill, i gather, is that we want Brooks gone. I'd take Hastings and be done with it ... or release Mybe if we secure Hastings. Unlikely it will change our fate this year.

We don't want Brooks gone

IF Hastings arrived tomorrow, I agree with you ... at least for this season.

 

[jirskyr]

ESL is good footy... A. Different game I enjoyed watching when. I had foxtel... We had two ref's they stuck with one... They had. No where near as much wrestle we did

Strange why backs don't do as well as forwards out here


I would say its because they dont get the space they are used to in the ESL,defences are tougher to break down

I agree, they are used to space rather than having to bust tackles. 30+ years ago it was mostly British backs having successful stints in the NSWRL, hardly forwards at all.

Modern NRL suits tough forwards and the best forwards coming out of England are tough, probably why it's transitioned from backs to forwards.

 

[tigerballs]

Back on topic. Is Brooks worth keeping for his defence over Hastings if this rumour is true? That Hastings is coming immediately

We have 2 roster spots and cap space available for Hastings immediately without releasing anyone..

Good point. The insinuation of the rumour mill, i gather, is that we want Brooks gone. I'd take Hastings and be done with it ... or release Mybe if we secure Hastings. Unlikely it will change our fate this year.

We don't want Brooks gone

I’m a Brooks critic but he’s been very good last two with Mbye taking the pressure off him. I think Hastings and Brooks would be a great combination.

 

[Tiger5150]

ESL is good footy... A. Different game I enjoyed watching when. I had foxtel... We had two ref's they stuck with one... They had. No where near as much wrestle we did

Strange why backs don't do as well as forwards out here


I would say its because they dont get the space they are used to in the ESL,defences are tougher to break down

I agree, they are used to space rather than having to bust tackles. 30+ years ago it was mostly British backs having successful stints in the NSWRL, ***hardly forwards at all.***

*cough* Cliff Watson, Brian Lockwood, Phil Lowe, Malcolm Reilly, Mike Stephenson, Kevin Ward, John Gray, **cough*

 

[jirskyr]

ESL is good footy... A. Different game I enjoyed watching when. I had foxtel... We had two ref's they stuck with one... They had. No where near as much wrestle we did

Strange why backs don't do as well as forwards out here


I would say its because they dont get the space they are used to in the ESL,defences are tougher to break down

I agree, they are used to space rather than having to bust tackles. 30+ years ago it was mostly British backs having successful stints in the NSWRL, ***hardly forwards at all.***


*cough* Cliff Watson, Brian Lockwood, Phil Lowe, Malcolm Reilly, Mike Stephenson, Kevin Ward, John Gray, **cough*

When I say 30+ I mean 30 years and a few years either side. You are talking here mostly about blokes over 40 years ago, in the 70s and earlier.

 

[cochise]

ESL is good footy... A. Different game I enjoyed watching when. I had foxtel... We had two ref's they stuck with one... They had. No where near as much wrestle we did

Strange why backs don't do as well as forwards out here


I would say its because they dont get the space they are used to in the ESL,defences are tougher to break down

I agree, they are used to space rather than having to bust tackles. 30+ years ago it was mostly British backs having successful stints in the NSWRL, ***hardly forwards at all.***


*cough* Cliff Watson, Brian Lockwood, Phil Lowe, Malcolm Reilly, Mike Stephenson, Kevin Ward, John Gray, **cough*

When I say 30+ I mean 30 years and a few years either side. You are talking here mostly about blokes over 40 years ago, in the 70s and earlier.

Before you were even born mate

 

[carltonleach]

Back on topic. Is Brooks worth keeping for his defence over Hastings if this rumour is true? That Hastings is coming immediately

We have 2 roster spots and cap space available for Hastings immediately without releasing anyone..

Good point. The insinuation of the rumour mill, i gather, is that we want Brooks gone. I'd take Hastings and be done with it ... or release Mybe if we secure Hastings. Unlikely it will change our fate this year.

We don't want Brooks gone

IF Hastings arrived tomorrow, I agree with you ... at least for this season.

I’m really unsure why we would get rid of brooks now when he’s showing some form, I get it he slips in and out of form but we all know he has talent and if he does end up else where he’s going to destroy us when we play him just like Moses and teddy do. I think brooks will keep this form and improve on it tbh (may just be wishful thinking but I hope not)

 

[Tiger5150]

ESL is good footy... A. Different game I enjoyed watching when. I had foxtel... We had two ref's they stuck with one... They had. No where near as much wrestle we did

Strange why backs don't do as well as forwards out here


I would say its because they dont get the space they are used to in the ESL,defences are tougher to break down

I agree, they are used to space rather than having to bust tackles. 30+ years ago it was mostly British backs having successful stints in the NSWRL, ***hardly forwards at all.***


*cough* Cliff Watson, Brian Lockwood, Phil Lowe, Malcolm Reilly, Mike Stephenson, Kevin Ward, John Gray, **cough*

When I say 30+ I mean 30 years and a few years either side. You are talking here mostly about blokes over 40 years ago, in the 70s and earlier.

Geez you are getting specific. If you mean the 80's then yes I agree mostly backs, but generally I think overall the majority of Pommy's that have made it here, regardless of era, have been forwards. But yes 80's & 90's it was mostly backs.

 

[cochise]

ESL is good footy... A. Different game I enjoyed watching when. I had foxtel... We had two ref's they stuck with one... They had. No where near as much wrestle we did

Strange why backs don't do as well as forwards out here


I would say its because they dont get the space they are used to in the ESL,defences are tougher to break down

I agree, they are used to space rather than having to bust tackles. 30+ years ago it was mostly British backs having successful stints in the NSWRL, ***hardly forwards at all.***


*cough* Cliff Watson, Brian Lockwood, Phil Lowe, Malcolm Reilly, Mike Stephenson, Kevin Ward, John Gray, **cough*

When I say 30+ I mean 30 years and a few years either side. You are talking here mostly about blokes over 40 years ago, in the 70s and earlier.


Geez you are getting specific. If you mean the 80's then yes I agree mostly backs, but generally I think overall the majority of Pommy's that have made it here, regardless of era, have been forwards. But yes 80's & 90's it was mostly backs.

I honestly think age plays a lot into these sorts of opinions, those forwards that were mentioned were before my time, so while I heard about them I didn't see them play. So I see where @jirskyr is coming from.

 

[happy_tiger]

ESL is good footy... A. Different game I enjoyed watching when. I had foxtel... We had two ref's they stuck with one... They had. No where near as much wrestle we did

Strange why backs don't do as well as forwards out here


I would say its because they dont get the space they are used to in the ESL,defences are tougher to break down

I agree, they are used to space rather than having to bust tackles. 30+ years ago it was mostly British backs having successful stints in the NSWRL, ***hardly forwards at all.***


*cough* Cliff Watson, Brian Lockwood, Phil Lowe, Malcolm Reilly, Mike Stephenson, Kevin Ward, John Gray, **cough*

When I say 30+ I mean 30 years and a few years either side. You are talking here mostly about blokes over 40 years ago, in the 70s and earlier.


Geez you are getting specific. If you mean the 80's then yes I agree mostly backs, but generally I think overall the majority of Pommy's that have made it here, regardless of era, have been forwards. But yes 80's & 90's it was mostly backs.

Betts ,Ward , Goodway ,Crooks ,Harvey Howard ......I'd take em all atm at the Tigers

 

[TrueTiger]

The main reason I have support for Hastings being good for us,he moved to ESL because of his childish reputation he had here,however he was in the NRL system for awhile before moving,,,he knows whats needed and he isnt just a pommy player coming here to make a name for himself...I hope he ends up doing very well for himself and our club as well....

 

[BAGNF05]

The main reason I have support for Hastings being good for us,he moved to ESL because of his childish reputation he had here,however he was in the NRL system for awhile before moving,,,he knows whats needed and he isnt just a pommy player coming here to make a name for himself...I hope he ends up doing very well for himself and our club as well....

I hope he brings an ego and pulls teammates into line when they need it. Seems we have a bunch of nice guys right now.

 

[jirskyr]

ESL is good footy... A. Different game I enjoyed watching when. I had foxtel... We had two ref's they stuck with one... They had. No where near as much wrestle we did

Strange why backs don't do as well as forwards out here


I would say its because they dont get the space they are used to in the ESL,defences are tougher to break down

I agree, they are used to space rather than having to bust tackles. 30+ years ago it was mostly British backs having successful stints in the NSWRL, ***hardly forwards at all.***


*cough* Cliff Watson, Brian Lockwood, Phil Lowe, Malcolm Reilly, Mike Stephenson, Kevin Ward, John Gray, **cough*

When I say 30+ I mean 30 years and a few years either side. You are talking here mostly about blokes over 40 years ago, in the 70s and earlier.


Geez you are getting specific. If you mean the 80's then yes I agree mostly backs, but generally I think overall the majority of Pommy's that have made it here, regardless of era, have been forwards. But yes 80's & 90's it was mostly backs.

Betts ,Ward , Goodway ,Crooks ,Harvey Howard ......I'd take em all atm at the Tigers

Denis Betts was a flop here.

 

[happy_tiger]

ESL is good footy... A. Different game I enjoyed watching when. I had foxtel... We had two ref's they stuck with one... They had. No where near as much wrestle we did

Strange why backs don't do as well as forwards out here


I would say its because they dont get the space they are used to in the ESL,defences are tougher to break down

I agree, they are used to space rather than having to bust tackles. 30+ years ago it was mostly British backs having successful stints in the NSWRL, ***hardly forwards at all.***


*cough* Cliff Watson, Brian Lockwood, Phil Lowe, Malcolm Reilly, Mike Stephenson, Kevin Ward, John Gray, **cough*

When I say 30+ I mean 30 years and a few years either side. You are talking here mostly about blokes over 40 years ago, in the 70s and earlier.


Geez you are getting specific. If you mean the 80's then yes I agree mostly backs, but generally I think overall the majority of Pommy's that have made it here, regardless of era, have been forwards. But yes 80's & 90's it was mostly backs.

Betts ,Ward , Goodway ,Crooks ,Harvey Howard ......I'd take em all atm at the Tigers

Denis Betts was a flop here.

Do we class Ellery ate Celery a back or a forward ..his best footy was at 13 imo

 

[jirskyr]

ESL is good footy... A. Different game I enjoyed watching when. I had foxtel... We had two ref's they stuck with one... They had. No where near as much wrestle we did

Strange why backs don't do as well as forwards out here


I would say its because they dont get the space they are used to in the ESL,defences are tougher to break down

I agree, they are used to space rather than having to bust tackles. 30+ years ago it was mostly British backs having successful stints in the NSWRL, ***hardly forwards at all.***


*cough* Cliff Watson, Brian Lockwood, Phil Lowe, Malcolm Reilly, Mike Stephenson, Kevin Ward, John Gray, **cough*

When I say 30+ I mean 30 years and a few years either side. You are talking here mostly about blokes over 40 years ago, in the 70s and earlier.


Geez you are getting specific. If you mean the 80's then yes I agree mostly backs, but generally I think overall the majority of Pommy's that have made it here, regardless of era, have been forwards. But yes 80's & 90's it was mostly backs.

The 80s and 90s is specific hey? The whole 20 years?

In that period, I recall
Schofield
Hanley
Offiah
Connolly
Jonathan Davies
Andy Currier
Sean Edwards
Andy Gregory
Joe Lydon
Brian Carney

All top footballers, but not many stayed in Oz for long, as was the nature of imports in those days. And yes prominent in my memory as a young rugby league follower. By comparison not many top-tier English forwards in the same era.

No argument in the NRL era, most British backs have been complete flops, I can think of maybe 12-15 names and the only decent showings were perhaps Widdop, Farnworth, George Williams.

I think it's highly debatable whether the *majority* of successful British in Australia are forwards, and of course you have to define what you mean by successful.

 

[BAGNF05]

Should get his mum in to ‘manage’ our salary cap

 

[TIGERPOWER]

Back on topic. Is Brooks worth keeping for his defence over Hastings if this rumour is true? That Hastings is coming immediately

We have 2 roster spots and cap space available for Hastings immediately without releasing anyone..

Good point. The insinuation of the rumour mill, i gather, is that we want Brooks gone. I'd take Hastings and be done with it ... or release Mybe if we secure Hastings. Unlikely it will change our fate this year.

We don't want Brooks gone


I’m a Brooks critic but he’s been very good last two with Mbye taking the pressure off him. I think Hastings and Brooks would be a great combination.

Same here . I’ve been one of brooks biggest critics but the last two weeks he has been amazing. His kicking game last week was the best I’ve seen from him. I’d say move mbye on and keep brooks.

 

[TigerBlood93]

Sending brooks to Canberra just to receive Hastings 14 weeks early would be the stupidest thing we’ve done in a while, we end up with the worst option out of all teams ?? Do people really thing Hastings will be better than brooks? Together they might do a good job! But surely Hastings and douhie aren’t the halves future for us...

 

[hank37w]

lol Hastings was the name thrown about. It could have been anyone half decent. The reasons people wanted Brooks dropped weren't about two games. People had rightfully questioned whether after 150 and zero top 8 placings he was the guy. Don't let facts get in the way of a win though!

Do you think DCE is better? How does he look without Turbo? The strike weapons make a half look good or bad. Brook's created many opportunities yesterday that were wasted by his team mates.

A half controlling the middle is doing a specific job. He decides if the team should attack up the middle or to get the ball wide to a playmaker or strike player on a side if see sees an advantage in numbers. He is not there to singlehandedly win the match.



Ok so now its his outside men who let him down.

Love these type of comments lol.

The DCE point is salient however. DCE plays the games of his life in Origin, can't remotely back it up at club level because his team is thin. **Manly close to one of the worst teams going around in 2021.**

This comment has not aged well.

A Turbo makes all the difference

Well exactly - one of the worst teams going around, until the best player in the league comes back in.

Can we install a turbo?! :hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed:

It's a bit unfair that Manly are allowed to run a twin turbo set up.

They have Tommy Turbo and the Saab Turbo.

 

[hank37w]

ESL is good footy... A. Different game I enjoyed watching when. I had foxtel... We had two ref's they stuck with one... They had. No where near as much wrestle we did

Strange why backs don't do as well as forwards out here


I would say its because they dont get the space they are used to in the ESL,defences are tougher to break down

I agree, they are used to space rather than having to bust tackles. 30+ years ago it was mostly British backs having successful stints in the NSWRL, ***hardly forwards at all.***


*cough* Cliff Watson, Brian Lockwood, Phil Lowe, Malcolm Reilly, Mike Stephenson, Kevin Ward, John Gray, **cough*

When I say 30+ I mean 30 years and a few years either side. You are talking here mostly about blokes over 40 years ago, in the 70s and earlier.


Geez you are getting specific. If you mean the 80's then yes I agree mostly backs, but generally I think overall the majority of Pommy's that have made it here, regardless of era, have been forwards. But yes 80's & 90's it was mostly backs.

Betts ,Ward , Goodway ,Crooks ,Harvey Howard ......I'd take em all atm at the Tigers

All those blokes are probably not even 60 yet, I reckon they'd go okay, but would they sign on at the Wests Tigers?