OFFICIAL James Tamou [Discussion]

@izotope said in [Tamou: 'United Wests Tigers to stick together'](/post/1372228) said:
time for our standard 6 weeks of must wins, then its 6 weeks of mathematical

I think the abacus might be out early this year
 
Does anyone remember 2019 panthers, not consistent and showed glimpses. Reason they put it down to was a new side and a lot of young guys playing in their first and second season nek Minnit 2020 - present been unbelievable.

Our squad could be building into something similar, one or two big signings will change us and the more games our new spine and young players play together can only be good. Hopefully we put together some more wins just for their confidence and culture to grow. I do believe we are getting better just by watching the last 2 weeks. Defence obviously our worst enemy, feel like everyone defends by them self and not a team. Perhaps Madge needs to hire a defending coach just to concentrate on that, madge likes to do stuff alone and I think that’s costing us. We need some big names coaching staff working with him, instead of this individual relos he builds. Coaching director would be wonders too, I think Madge is building something here but needs help, just needs to get out of his own way.
 
Now we're getting fluff pieces in the middle of a losing season.
Simple way to fix it, pull ur fingers out, put ur shoulders into tackles and effort, effort, effort.
 
@tigerblood93 said in [Tamou: 'United Wests Tigers to stick together'](/post/1372260) said:
Does anyone remember 2019 panthers, not consistent and showed glimpses. Reason they put it down to was a new side and a lot of young guys playing in their first and second season nek Minnit 2020 - present been unbelievable.

Our squad could be building into something similar, one or two big signings will change us and the more games our new spine and young players play together can only be good. Hopefully we put together some more wins just for their confidence and culture to grow. I do believe we are getting better just by watching the last 2 weeks. Defence obviously our worst enemy, feel like everyone defends by them self and not a team. Perhaps Madge needs to hire a defending coach just to concentrate on that, madge likes to do stuff alone and I think that’s costing us. We need some big names coaching staff working with him, instead of this individual relos he builds. Coaching director would be wonders too, I think Madge is building something here but needs help, just needs to get out of his own way.


The board increased the operational budget for training staff, but pretty sure that has already been allocated.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Tamou: 'United Wests Tigers to stick together'](/post/1372237) said:
@izotope said in [Tamou: 'United Wests Tigers to stick together'](/post/1372228) said:
time for our standard 6 weeks of must wins, then its 6 weeks of mathematical

I think the abacus might be out early this year

Mine's been out and is now put away because it couldn't calculate negatives of any of lack of effort, intelligence or desire.
 
Starting to use Mage's words
Doing Reviews and few things to fix but nothing changes.
Just like the piss weak excuses us fans and supporters cop each post game and every season after missing the top 8.
This club and its personnel are notorious for excuses and failures.
 
@851 said in [Tamou: 'United Wests Tigers to stick together'](/post/1372182) said:
Jimmy has been to Madge's school of handling the media, just keep saying the same things over and over, but never really addressing and correcting them

100% !
Lip service, thats all there is
 
@pj said in [Tamou: 'United Wests Tigers to stick together'](/post/1372267) said:
Now we're getting fluff pieces in the middle of a losing season.
Simple way to fix it, pull ur fingers out, put ur shoulders into tackles and effort, effort, effort.


Agree, it’s time to get Mike Tyson in for a training session and pep talk. 😁
I think Tamou is right though, the team is starting to bond. You can notice the additional discretionary effort and the way they rally when a teammate cops a head high. The longer this season goes the better their knowledge of each other’s game. The players probably have a handle on who plays golf in the team by now.😜
Keep the spine as it is Madge. You can change it in the preseason.
 
@tigerblood93 said in [Tamou: 'United Wests Tigers to stick together'](/post/1372260) said:
Does anyone remember 2019 panthers, not consistent and showed glimpses. Reason they put it down to was a new side and a lot of young guys playing in their first and second season nek Minnit 2020 - present been unbelievable.

Our squad could be building into something similar, one or two big signings will change us and the more games our new spine and young players play together can only be good. Hopefully we put together some more wins just for their confidence and culture to grow. I do believe we are getting better just by watching the last 2 weeks. Defence obviously our worst enemy, feel like everyone defends by them self and not a team. Perhaps Madge needs to hire a defending coach just to concentrate on that, madge likes to do stuff alone and I think that’s costing us. We need some big names coaching staff working with him, instead of this individual relos he builds. Coaching director would be wonders too, I think Madge is building something here but needs help, just needs to get out of his own way.

Cleary bit the bullet midway through the year and started blooding players at will, giving them the first grade experience they needed. by the end of the year they were coming home strong, would be nice to see us go down a similar trajectory.

but above all, they way they recruited was very very smart. they moved Maloney on for Luai and brought in Koroisau to give Nathan complete control, Capewell as a handy player that could fill a few positions, and Tetevano off the bench as an experienced front rower who had won premierships. if we're to do something similar we need to recruit in a similar fashion.
 
@tcat said in [Tamou: 'United Wests Tigers to stick together'](/post/1372184) said:
'Honest review session'. Hahaha. Good one.

Yeah it was honest. They spoke about how they could play without any backbone and still get picked next week.
 
@tigerblood93 said in [Tamou: 'United Wests Tigers to stick together'](/post/1372260) said:
Does anyone remember 2019 panthers, not consistent and showed glimpses. Reason they put it down to was a new side and a lot of young guys playing in their first and second season nek Minnit 2020 - present been unbelievable.

Our squad could be building into something similar, one or two big signings will change us and the more games our new spine and young players play together can only be good. Hopefully we put together some more wins just for their confidence and culture to grow. I do believe we are getting better just by watching the last 2 weeks. Defence obviously our worst enemy, feel like everyone defends by them self and not a team. Perhaps Madge needs to hire a defending coach just to concentrate on that, madge likes to do stuff alone and I think that’s costing us. We need some big names coaching staff working with him, instead of this individual relos he builds. Coaching director would be wonders too, I think Madge is building something here but needs help, just needs to get out of his own way.


I think the similarity stops with blooding young players just like they did. That 2019 Penrith side was coming off a side that had made the semis 3 years in a row so there was already a winning mentality in the club. They got rid of their coach and their attack suffered however their defence pretty much was the same as the previous years. In 2020 Cleary took their defence to another level and that has continued to this day. Us on the other hand have gone backwards in both defence and attack. Our defence is over 100 points worse off than what we were at this stage last season. That cant be just down to the new rules.
 
Unless they are talking about how the club has a history of playing poorly after playing well and take some real ownership of that then his comments are nothing more than fluff.

Guess he has to earn his money somehow.
 
@geo said in [Tamou: 'United Wests Tigers to stick together'](/post/1372171) said:
Isn't every game a must win..I don't get the mentality Mr Tamou.

Agree 100%. The Panthers and Storm, for example, play with such intensity that every play is important. And when you are focused at each play and each set then your mentality as a group suggests that every game is a must win.
 
@upthetigers said in [Tamou: 'United Wests Tigers to stick together'](/post/1372183) said:
A tight-knit group of boys that leak 30 points every game

Very tightly knit. We didn't have enough wool to finish the edges.
 
I could have made a new topic, which I believe it does - but I will let my anger out here.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby-league/tigers-captain-tamou-is-cheering-penriths-streak-with-a-catch/ar-AAKFcD2?ocid=ientp


Penrith's grand final captain James Tamou has admitted he is "in awe" of his former teammates and thought he was obliged to chase a new challenge at the Tigers because he couldn't keep up with his younger teammates.

On the eve of his first game against his old club, the 32-year-old veteran even said he would love to see the Panthers go through the entire season unbeaten if Michael Maguire's side can't halt their winning streak on Friday night.

The Panthers will head into the clash without seven State of Origin stars and the suspended Moses Leota as they try to extend their winning run to 13 games this season.

And the man who led them in last year's grand final defeat is arguably their biggest supporter, claiming the Panthers were a much better side this year than the 2020 version.

Asked about the possibility of Penrith finishing the year without a loss if the Tigers can't beat them, Tamou said: "If I'm alive and around to see that happen, I'd want it to happen.

"Some of the kids there, you can't help but love them. They come from nothing and they just worked hard to get where they are. You can't help but watch them and be in awe of them.

"The way I can tell they're a better team [in 2021] is last year [Viliame] Kikau absolutely killed it. You give him the ball and he runs over everyone. He's still going well, but he's not shining as brightly. The other guys have caught up and they're all working together.

"The scary thing is not only do you have to stop Kikau, you have to stop everyone else. When I say I'm in awe of them, you can't help but watch them and go, ‘wow, this is something special'."

Tamou was offered a one-year extension to stay at the Panthers, but opted to take up a two-year deal with the Tigers before being named captain of the club prior to even pulling on their jersey.

But Tamou conceded he was even looking over his shoulder last year wondering when he would be dropped to the bench given the rapid rise of a number of youngsters.

"The coaching staff knew what they were doing," Tamou said. "It was hard [to leave], but some of those players there ... their ceiling is higher than mine.

"I've got a bit to offer with experience, but some of those kids coming through have a lot more to offer and with such a young team they gel so well together.

"I could have stayed, but these young ones were blowing me off the park at training. I definitely felt like [I had to step aside]. I was thinking about guys like Moses Leota, and last year I thought I'd be going back to the bench.

"[But] I'm happy with my decision and I'm all in emotionally here."




This guy should have never been the captain of the club, whenever Penrith gets mentioned he is in awe with them..

Give it a break for once and focus on your team..

Not only that the last paragraph has it all! Is he practically saying he can handle our players here instead of the players at Penrith?
 
@djg-tiger said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1380323) said:
I could have made a new topic, which I believe it does - but I will let my anger out here.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby-league/tigers-captain-tamou-is-cheering-penriths-streak-with-a-catch/ar-AAKFcD2?ocid=ientp


Penrith's grand final captain James Tamou has admitted he is "in awe" of his former teammates and thought he was obliged to chase a new challenge at the Tigers because he couldn't keep up with his younger teammates.

On the eve of his first game against his old club, the 32-year-old veteran even said he would love to see the Panthers go through the entire season unbeaten if Michael Maguire's side can't halt their winning streak on Friday night.

The Panthers will head into the clash without seven State of Origin stars and the suspended Moses Leota as they try to extend their winning run to 13 games this season.

And the man who led them in last year's grand final defeat is arguably their biggest supporter, claiming the Panthers were a much better side this year than the 2020 version.

Asked about the possibility of Penrith finishing the year without a loss if the Tigers can't beat them, Tamou said: "If I'm alive and around to see that happen, I'd want it to happen.

"Some of the kids there, you can't help but love them. They come from nothing and they just worked hard to get where they are. You can't help but watch them and be in awe of them.

"The way I can tell they're a better team [in 2021] is last year [Viliame] Kikau absolutely killed it. You give him the ball and he runs over everyone. He's still going well, but he's not shining as brightly. The other guys have caught up and they're all working together.

"The scary thing is not only do you have to stop Kikau, you have to stop everyone else. When I say I'm in awe of them, you can't help but watch them and go, ‘wow, this is something special'."

Tamou was offered a one-year extension to stay at the Panthers, but opted to take up a two-year deal with the Tigers before being named captain of the club prior to even pulling on their jersey.

But Tamou conceded he was even looking over his shoulder last year wondering when he would be dropped to the bench given the rapid rise of a number of youngsters.

"The coaching staff knew what they were doing," Tamou said. "It was hard [to leave], but some of those players there ... their ceiling is higher than mine.

"I've got a bit to offer with experience, but some of those kids coming through have a lot more to offer and with such a young team they gel so well together.

"I could have stayed, but these young ones were blowing me off the park at training. I definitely felt like [I had to step aside]. I was thinking about guys like Moses Leota, and last year I thought I'd be going back to the bench.

"[But] I'm happy with my decision and I'm all in emotionally here."




This guy should have never been the captain of the club, whenever Penrith gets mentioned he is in awe with them..

Give it a break for once and focus on your team..

Not only that the last paragraph has it all! Is he practically saying he can handle our players here instead of the players at Penrith?

With Woods having dominated the rumours thread for page upon page recently, hey, it is what it is.
 
@djg-tiger said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1380323) said:
I could have made a new topic, which I believe it does - but I will let my anger out here.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby-league/tigers-captain-tamou-is-cheering-penriths-streak-with-a-catch/ar-AAKFcD2?ocid=ientp


Penrith's grand final captain James Tamou has admitted he is "in awe" of his former teammates and thought he was obliged to chase a new challenge at the Tigers because he couldn't keep up with his younger teammates.

On the eve of his first game against his old club, the 32-year-old veteran even said he would love to see the Panthers go through the entire season unbeaten if Michael Maguire's side can't halt their winning streak on Friday night.

The Panthers will head into the clash without seven State of Origin stars and the suspended Moses Leota as they try to extend their winning run to 13 games this season.

And the man who led them in last year's grand final defeat is arguably their biggest supporter, claiming the Panthers were a much better side this year than the 2020 version.

Asked about the possibility of Penrith finishing the year without a loss if the Tigers can't beat them, Tamou said: "If I'm alive and around to see that happen, I'd want it to happen.

"Some of the kids there, you can't help but love them. They come from nothing and they just worked hard to get where they are. You can't help but watch them and be in awe of them.

"The way I can tell they're a better team [in 2021] is last year [Viliame] Kikau absolutely killed it. You give him the ball and he runs over everyone. He's still going well, but he's not shining as brightly. The other guys have caught up and they're all working together.

"The scary thing is not only do you have to stop Kikau, you have to stop everyone else. When I say I'm in awe of them, you can't help but watch them and go, ‘wow, this is something special'."

Tamou was offered a one-year extension to stay at the Panthers, but opted to take up a two-year deal with the Tigers before being named captain of the club prior to even pulling on their jersey.

But Tamou conceded he was even looking over his shoulder last year wondering when he would be dropped to the bench given the rapid rise of a number of youngsters.

"The coaching staff knew what they were doing," Tamou said. "It was hard [to leave], but some of those players there ... their ceiling is higher than mine.

"I've got a bit to offer with experience, but some of those kids coming through have a lot more to offer and with such a young team they gel so well together.

"I could have stayed, but these young ones were blowing me off the park at training. I definitely felt like [I had to step aside]. I was thinking about guys like Moses Leota, and last year I thought I'd be going back to the bench.

"[But] I'm happy with my decision and I'm all in emotionally here."




This guy should have never been the captain of the club, whenever Penrith gets mentioned he is in awe with them..

Give it a break for once and focus on your team..

Not only that the last paragraph has it all! Is he practically saying he can handle our players here instead of the players at Penrith?

I think your reading to much into it ....Tamou captained the side,played in the GF and knew he was on borrowed time with so much youth at IVANS DISPOSAL,that he made the desicion to leave...He can be in awe of the team as he had connections with many of the players and dare I say helped many of the youth to play at that level...What I have seen of James here with us is he is passing on knowledge and experience the same as he did for his former employer,I have seen him be quite passionate about our team and club,the youth in our squad and club speak highly of him and he is doing all that is expected of him 100 percent for us...
 
@djg-tiger said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1380323) said:
I could have made a new topic, which I believe it does - but I will let my anger out here.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby-league/tigers-captain-tamou-is-cheering-penriths-streak-with-a-catch/ar-AAKFcD2?ocid=ientp


Penrith's grand final captain James Tamou has admitted he is "in awe" of his former teammates and thought he was obliged to chase a new challenge at the Tigers because he couldn't keep up with his younger teammates.

On the eve of his first game against his old club, the 32-year-old veteran even said he would love to see the Panthers go through the entire season unbeaten if Michael Maguire's side can't halt their winning streak on Friday night.

The Panthers will head into the clash without seven State of Origin stars and the suspended Moses Leota as they try to extend their winning run to 13 games this season.

And the man who led them in last year's grand final defeat is arguably their biggest supporter, claiming the Panthers were a much better side this year than the 2020 version.

Asked about the possibility of Penrith finishing the year without a loss if the Tigers can't beat them, Tamou said: "If I'm alive and around to see that happen, I'd want it to happen.

"Some of the kids there, you can't help but love them. They come from nothing and they just worked hard to get where they are. You can't help but watch them and be in awe of them.

"The way I can tell they're a better team [in 2021] is last year [Viliame] Kikau absolutely killed it. You give him the ball and he runs over everyone. He's still going well, but he's not shining as brightly. The other guys have caught up and they're all working together.

"The scary thing is not only do you have to stop Kikau, you have to stop everyone else. When I say I'm in awe of them, you can't help but watch them and go, ‘wow, this is something special'."

Tamou was offered a one-year extension to stay at the Panthers, but opted to take up a two-year deal with the Tigers before being named captain of the club prior to even pulling on their jersey.

But Tamou conceded he was even looking over his shoulder last year wondering when he would be dropped to the bench given the rapid rise of a number of youngsters.

"The coaching staff knew what they were doing," Tamou said. "It was hard [to leave], but some of those players there ... their ceiling is higher than mine.

"I've got a bit to offer with experience, but some of those kids coming through have a lot more to offer and with such a young team they gel so well together.

"I could have stayed, but these young ones were blowing me off the park at training. I definitely felt like [I had to step aside]. I was thinking about guys like Moses Leota, and last year I thought I'd be going back to the bench.

"[But] I'm happy with my decision and I'm all in emotionally here."




This guy should have never been the captain of the club, whenever Penrith gets mentioned he is in awe with them..

Give it a break for once and focus on your team..

Not only that the last paragraph has it all! Is he practically saying he can handle our players here instead of the players at Penrith?

I would rather the players offer an honest opinion instead of hearing the same safe clichés thousands of times. FERDA.
 
@truetiger said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1380334) said:
@djg-tiger said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1380323) said:
I could have made a new topic, which I believe it does - but I will let my anger out here.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby-league/tigers-captain-tamou-is-cheering-penriths-streak-with-a-catch/ar-AAKFcD2?ocid=ientp


Penrith's grand final captain James Tamou has admitted he is "in awe" of his former teammates and thought he was obliged to chase a new challenge at the Tigers because he couldn't keep up with his younger teammates.

On the eve of his first game against his old club, the 32-year-old veteran even said he would love to see the Panthers go through the entire season unbeaten if Michael Maguire's side can't halt their winning streak on Friday night.

The Panthers will head into the clash without seven State of Origin stars and the suspended Moses Leota as they try to extend their winning run to 13 games this season.

And the man who led them in last year's grand final defeat is arguably their biggest supporter, claiming the Panthers were a much better side this year than the 2020 version.

Asked about the possibility of Penrith finishing the year without a loss if the Tigers can't beat them, Tamou said: "If I'm alive and around to see that happen, I'd want it to happen.

"Some of the kids there, you can't help but love them. They come from nothing and they just worked hard to get where they are. You can't help but watch them and be in awe of them.

"The way I can tell they're a better team [in 2021] is last year [Viliame] Kikau absolutely killed it. You give him the ball and he runs over everyone. He's still going well, but he's not shining as brightly. The other guys have caught up and they're all working together.

"The scary thing is not only do you have to stop Kikau, you have to stop everyone else. When I say I'm in awe of them, you can't help but watch them and go, ‘wow, this is something special'."

Tamou was offered a one-year extension to stay at the Panthers, but opted to take up a two-year deal with the Tigers before being named captain of the club prior to even pulling on their jersey.

But Tamou conceded he was even looking over his shoulder last year wondering when he would be dropped to the bench given the rapid rise of a number of youngsters.

"The coaching staff knew what they were doing," Tamou said. "It was hard [to leave], but some of those players there ... their ceiling is higher than mine.

"I've got a bit to offer with experience, but some of those kids coming through have a lot more to offer and with such a young team they gel so well together.

"I could have stayed, but these young ones were blowing me off the park at training. I definitely felt like [I had to step aside]. I was thinking about guys like Moses Leota, and last year I thought I'd be going back to the bench.

"[But] I'm happy with my decision and I'm all in emotionally here."




This guy should have never been the captain of the club, whenever Penrith gets mentioned he is in awe with them..

Give it a break for once and focus on your team..

Not only that the last paragraph has it all! Is he practically saying he can handle our players here instead of the players at Penrith?

I think your reading to much into it ....Tamou captained the side,played in the GF and knew he was on borrowed time with so much youth at IVANS DISPOSAL,that he made the desicion to leave...He can be in awe of the team as he had connections with many of the players and dare I say helped many of the youth to play at that level...What I have seen of James here with us is he is passing on knowledge and experience the same as he did for his former employer,I have seen him be quite passionate about our team and club,the youth in our squad and club speak highly of him and he is doing all that is expected of him 100 percent for us...

I am reading too much into it.

I rate Tamou and I probably came across angry for some of the comments.

I guess I'm one of them supporters where if ONE bad or good thing is said I take it to the grave with me.. sometimes I wish i'm not that invested in them.

I do agree that Tamou does try every game 100%.

I actually re-read the post and I could say that it wasnt that bad.. more probably wanting him to say we're going to give it to them.
 
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