Jason Taylor ...THREAD...

[happy_tiger]

There is never going to be a "right time ,right place "

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Can't believe some are even arguing this. Sure it's a bit sensationalised, but it's 200% correct. We are a graveyard for coaches, and good luck to the next one who comes in and has to make a tough call because the supporters will flip out to the point he has to back down and the club has to apologise. Don't dare mess with the status quo at Wests Tigers.

 

[jadtiger]

As others have said Potter was doing a decent job much better than Sheens(here to long)and Taylor(all talk and no ability)It will be hard for the current board to admit that they got it horribly wrong by Taylors appointment.Potter was given little freedom if any, something Taylor has.
It is going to be an awful season if things dont change, last year we finished equal last with 33% win ratio already after 7 rounds we are going worse and i dont think any team is looking worse than us(warriors about equal).
I really hope that people are laughing at me at the end of the season because i am wrong but i just cant see it.

 

[stevetiger]

I thought we just did not re-sign Potter rather than sack him. Then again the DT writes a headline and then creates a story to fill it.

Yep. How long was Sheens here as well.

Just another bunch of palava from the DT.

 

[stevetiger]

Make no mistake we are attractive to good coaches for 2017 onwards.
We will have cash from WESTS, Cap Space with Farah signing to play 3 years in England and younger players with upside. A few astute signings and a good coach and we are bak in the top 8 race.

Taylor is the problem along with a poisoned locker room which, should be sorted with Taylor and Farah going.

What makes you so sure they will both be gone next year ? Farah recently said he may want to play on. Taylor isn't going to quit.

 

[lathami]

Can't believe some are even arguing this. Sure it's a bit sensationalised, but it's 200% correct. We are a graveyard for coaches, and good luck to the next one who comes in and has to make a tough call because the supporters will flip out to the point he has to back down and the club has to apologise. Don't dare mess with the status quo at Wests Tigers.

Reality check, we have lost how many games in a row now????
Did Taylor get the players he wanted? S&C team he wanted?
It was his stuff up with the farah situation!
As the great scarecrow says 'no excuses'!
What's his excuse??

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Potter must be having a good old gut laugh now. I still maintain we should have never let him go.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Can't believe some are even arguing this. Sure it's a bit sensationalised, but it's 200% correct. We are a graveyard for coaches, and good luck to the next one who comes in and has to make a tough call because the supporters will flip out to the point he has to back down and the club has to apologise. Don't dare mess with the status quo at Wests Tigers.

Reality check, we have lost how many games in a row now????
Did Taylor get the players he wanted? S&C team he wanted?
It was his stuff up with the farah situation!
As the great scarecrow says 'no excuses'!
What's his excuse??

You're right, it's allll the coaches fault. These players who haven't made the semis in 5 yrs, others never at all don't deserve any blame. These poor buggers would be making the finals every yr under a great coach /sarcasm.

 

[stevetiger]

Can't believe some are even arguing this. Sure it's a bit sensationalised, but it's 200% correct. We are a graveyard for coaches, and good luck to the next one who comes in and has to make a tough call because the supporters will flip out to the point he has to back down and the club has to apologise. Don't dare mess with the status quo at Wests Tigers.

Reality check, we have lost how many games in a row now????
Did Taylor get the players he wanted? S&C team he wanted?
It was his stuff up with the farah situation!
As the great scarecrow says 'no excuses'!
What's his excuse??

You're right, it's allll the coaches fault. These players who haven't made the semis in 5 yrs, others never at all don't deserve any blame. These poor buggers would be making the finals every yr under a great coach /sarcasm.

It's not all the coaches fault but he hasn't performed to an acceptable level.

 

[ricksen]

This isn't a specific problem with the Tigers - the NRL in general is a bit of a graveyard, and it's usually pretty bloody difficult to get another job once you've moved on.
Look at a list of recent coaches for any club with a bit of turnover, and most of them are out there in the ether or on assistant gigs.

 

[jirskyr]

This isn't a specific problem with the Tigers - the NRL in general is a bit of a graveyard, and it's usually pretty bloody difficult to get another job once you've moved on.
Look at a list of recent coaches for any club with a bit of turnover, and most of them are out there in the ether or on assistant gigs.

Totally correct.

Paul Kent is just being sensationalist for his own journalistic purposes.

Any club that has struggled regularly is going to go through coaches. Let's take a quick look:

Parra: 2005 = Smith, Smith/Taylor, Hagan, Hagan, Anderson, Anderson, Kearney, Kearney/Arthur, Stuart, Arthur, Arthur, Arthur; N = 7

Penrith: 2005 = Lang, Lang, Elliott, Elliott, Elliott, Elliott, Elliott/Georgallis, Cleary, Cleary, Cleary, Cleary, Griffin; N = 5

Newcastle: 2005 = Hagan, Hagan, Smith, Smith, Smith/Stone, Stone, Stone, Bennett, Bennett, Bennett, Stone/Buderus, Brown; N = 6

Raiders: 2005 = Elliott, Elliott, Henry, Henry, Furner, Furner, Furner, Furner, Furner/Dunemann, Stuart, Stuart, Stuart; N = 5

Souths: 2005 = McRae, McRae, Taylor, Taylor, Taylor, Lang, Lang, Maguire, Maguire, Maguire, Maguire, Maguire; N = 4

Dragons: 2005 = Brown, Brown, Brown, Brown, Bennett, Bennett, Bennett, Price, Price, Price/McGregor, McGregor, McGregor; N = 4

Sharks: 2005 = Raper, Raper, Stuart, Stuart, Stuart, Stuart/Flanagan, Flanagan, Flanagan, Sharp/Flanagan, Sharp/Shepherd, Flanagan, Flanagan; N = 5

Warriors: 2005 = Kemp, Cleary, Cleary, Cleary, Cleary, Cleary, Cleary, McClennan/Iro, Elliott, Elliott/McFadden, McFadden, McFadden; N = 6

Roosters 2005 = Stuart, Stuart, Anderson/Fittler, Fittler, Fittler, Smith, Smith, Smith, Robinson, Robinson, Robinson, Robinson; N = 5.

and Tigers 2005 = Sheens, Sheens, Sheens, Sheens, Sheens, Sheens, Sheens, Sheens, Potter, Potter, Taylor, Taylor; N = 3

Now call me strange, but 3 is smaller than 4, 5, 6 and 7\. Therefore we've had less turnover in the last 11 seasons than more than half the comp.

So sure right now Potter lasted just 2 years and Potter looks the same, Sheens is overseas. But how many of those names listed above are still going around, still coaching NRL sides. Where's Andrew Dunemann? Matt Elliott got a side right now? Freddy Fittler prancing on sidelines rather than head coaching. Tony Iro or Tony Kemp?

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Now call me strange, but 3 is smaller than 4, 5, 6 and 7\. Therefore we've had less turnover in the last 11 seasons than more than half the comp.

Even the great Brisbane churned through some coaches when success was not forthcoming. They have had 3 coaches in the last 7 seasons and they just went back to Bennett. What does that say about the quality of young(er) coaches?

 

[jirskyr]

Now call me strange, but 3 is smaller than 4, 5, 6 and 7\. Therefore we've had less turnover in the last 11 seasons than more than half the comp.

Even the great Brisbane churned through some coaches when success was not forthcoming. They have had 3 coaches in the last 7 seasons and they just went back to Bennett. What does that say about the quality of young(er) coaches?

Yeah and I didn't even go through all the teams, the high performers.

In this same period Broncos have had 3 coaches, Bulldogs 4, Cowboys 4, Manly 3\. Storm are the only side to not change coach, and Titans have only done it once, though they joined in 2007.

And I didn't even count the instances where coaches came back - e.g. Sharks and Broncos.

So in the last 12 seasons we've had equal or less coaching changes than every team in the league except Titans and Storm, and one of those sides didn't even exist in 2005.

 

[balmain boy]

While its hardly a critical matter, I was interested to see Taylor walking around on the weekend wearing his official WT cap. I don't recall ever seeing players wearing their merch outside of official occasions and JT would have other caps lying around home no doubt.

Given the embarrassing performance on Saturday you'd think he'd be trying to blend in as much as possible. Instead he was proudly wearing his WT cap while out i public with his family which I'm sure was no accident. I don't see him as one to shirk away from the challenge he faces, but rather to embrace it head on and for that he should be admired.

I personally agree with a number of the things he says or does, but disagree with a few of his policies too.

In the end our contracted players simply don't have the quality to compete consistently.

 

[ricksen]

While its hardly a critical matter, I was interested to see Taylor walking around on the weekend wearing his official WT cap. I don't recall ever seeing players wearing their merch outside of official occasions and JT would have other caps lying around home no doubt.

Back when I lived in the area (this would have been 2010-11), I'd see some of the guys in WT caps back relatively often around Burwood & Concord.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

While its hardly a critical matter, I was interested to see Taylor walking around on the weekend wearing his official WT cap. I don't recall ever seeing players wearing their merch outside of official occasions and JT would have other caps lying around home no doubt.

Back when I lived in the area (this would have been 2010-11), I'd see some of the guys in WT caps back relatively often around Burwood & Concord.

That was when we were good and all of us wore our Tigers gear with pride…..
Nowadays, not so much.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

All things aside, one thing good Taylor has done for us since being here is injury management.

Before he took over our causality ward was appalling.

I have to credit him for the way he has managed that side of things

 

[balmain boy]

While its hardly a critical matter, I was interested to see Taylor walking around on the weekend wearing his official WT cap. I don't recall ever seeing players wearing their merch outside of official occasions and JT would have other caps lying around home no doubt.

Back when I lived in the area (this would have been 2010-11), I'd see some of the guys in WT caps back relatively often around Burwood & Concord.

Given that we train at Concord i don't see that as counting so much. I still see some players wearing their gear around Westfield Burwood on the way home from training.

 

[ricksen]

While its hardly a critical matter, I was interested to see Taylor walking around on the weekend wearing his official WT cap. I don't recall ever seeing players wearing their merch outside of official occasions and JT would have other caps lying around home no doubt.

Back when I lived in the area (this would have been 2010-11), I'd see some of the guys in WT caps back relatively often around Burwood & Concord.

Given that we train at Concord i don't see that as counting so much. I still see some players wearing their gear around Westfield Burwood on the way home from training.

Sorry - should have clarified this was weekends and evenings etc.
Anyway, hardly critical as you say.

 

[yeti]

Call me cynical, but there seems to be a whole heap more Potter supporters on this forum now than there were when he was coaching!