Jimmy the jet??

[TYGA]

We don’t need centre’s how many do you want. Kepoa, Talau, Momo, BJ, Mbye, Hoffman.

 

[Cairnstigers]

Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it

 

[gallagher]

Some people seem to be recalling the former boom youngster and speed demon. These days he's a highly injury prone, mentally damaged addict loser that's been sacked from 3-4 clubs already. For disciplinary reasons.
He's not who he was, and we need to sign players based on who they will be not who they were.
I find it incredibly insulting that Pascoe even met with Roberts, if they talked about the possibility of him joining us.


I completely agree although i hope he does sort out his personal issues is not a player i would sign on any low coin, he has had many chances in the NRL, 4 clubs can't learn from his own mistakes.

Neither can we if we sign him or Mansour.

He'll stuff up some how and we'll end up sacking him. Then the usual happy clappers will come out with 'how would Pascoe have known that would happen?? Its a freaken mystery.

Who cares, we sack him we don't pay him.

He'll be paid up that point, wasted spot. We all know deep down he'll be sacked again.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Some people seem to be recalling the former boom youngster and speed demon. These days he's a highly injury prone, mentally damaged addict loser that's been sacked from 3-4 clubs already. For disciplinary reasons.
He's not who he was, and we need to sign players based on who they will be not who they were.
I find it incredibly insulting that Pascoe even met with Roberts, if they talked about the possibility of him joining us.


I completely agree although i hope he does sort out his personal issues is not a player i would sign on any low coin, he has had many chances in the NRL, 4 clubs can't learn from his own mistakes.

Neither can we if we sign him or Mansour.

He'll stuff up some how and we'll end up sacking him. Then the usual happy clappers will come out with 'how would Pascoe have known that would happen?? Its a freaken mystery.

We already have one Signing from last season that did not perform BJ - why do we need another.
I just think its plain dumb meeting with these type of players.

 

[JC99]

If he was a winger or a second rower sure cause we could use depth there. We’ve got a heap of centres do we really need another.

 

[gallagher]

Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it

Well Maguire was at Souths when he got sacked there and Pascoe was at Penrith when he got sacked from there. They know what their buying.

 

[gallagher]

Some people seem to be recalling the former boom youngster and speed demon. These days he's a highly injury prone, mentally damaged addict loser that's been sacked from 3-4 clubs already. For disciplinary reasons.
He's not who he was, and we need to sign players based on who they will be not who they were.
I find it incredibly insulting that Pascoe even met with Roberts, if they talked about the possibility of him joining us.


I completely agree although i hope he does sort out his personal issues is not a player i would sign on any low coin, he has had many chances in the NRL, 4 clubs can't learn from his own mistakes.

Neither can we if we sign him or Mansour.

He'll stuff up some how and we'll end up sacking him. Then the usual happy clappers will come out with 'how would Pascoe have known that would happen?? Its a freaken mystery.


We already have one Signing from last season that did not perform BJ - why do we need another.
I just think its plain dumb meeting with these type of players.

No-one else will come here and we have no idea how to turn it around.

 

[cochise]

Some people seem to be recalling the former boom youngster and speed demon. These days he's a highly injury prone, mentally damaged addict loser that's been sacked from 3-4 clubs already. For disciplinary reasons.
He's not who he was, and we need to sign players based on who they will be not who they were.
I find it incredibly insulting that Pascoe even met with Roberts, if they talked about the possibility of him joining us.


I completely agree although i hope he does sort out his personal issues is not a player i would sign on any low coin, he has had many chances in the NRL, 4 clubs can't learn from his own mistakes.

Neither can we if we sign him or Mansour.

He'll stuff up some how and we'll end up sacking him. Then the usual happy clappers will come out with 'how would Pascoe have known that would happen?? Its a freaken mystery.

Who cares, we sack him we don't pay him.

He'll be paid up that point, wasted spot. We all know deep down he'll be sacked again.

We can't fill the spots we have lol

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Some people seem to be recalling the former boom youngster and speed demon. These days he's a highly injury prone, mentally damaged addict loser that's been sacked from 3-4 clubs already. For disciplinary reasons.
He's not who he was, and we need to sign players based on who they will be not who they were.
I find it incredibly insulting that Pascoe even met with Roberts, if they talked about the possibility of him joining us.


I completely agree although i hope he does sort out his personal issues is not a player i would sign on any low coin, he has had many chances in the NRL, 4 clubs can't learn from his own mistakes.

Neither can we if we sign him or Mansour.

He'll stuff up some how and we'll end up sacking him. Then the usual happy clappers will come out with 'how would Pascoe have known that would happen?? Its a freaken mystery.


We already have one Signing from last season that did not perform BJ - why do we need another.
I just think its plain dumb meeting with these type of players.

No-one else will come here and we have no idea how to turn it around.

We should not care about whom comes here we have 2x SG sides bother Balmain/Wests and one of the largest JRN talent areas and we let other clubs steal them.

We sign dud players on big coin from other clubs usually past use by date and then can't retain our talent as we have $ tied up with non performing players.

 

[gallagher]

Some people seem to be recalling the former boom youngster and speed demon. These days he's a highly injury prone, mentally damaged addict loser that's been sacked from 3-4 clubs already. For disciplinary reasons.
He's not who he was, and we need to sign players based on who they will be not who they were.
I find it incredibly insulting that Pascoe even met with Roberts, if they talked about the possibility of him joining us.


I completely agree although i hope he does sort out his personal issues is not a player i would sign on any low coin, he has had many chances in the NRL, 4 clubs can't learn from his own mistakes.

Neither can we if we sign him or Mansour.

He'll stuff up some how and we'll end up sacking him. Then the usual happy clappers will come out with 'how would Pascoe have known that would happen?? Its a freaken mystery.

Who cares, we sack him we don't pay him.

He'll be paid up that point, wasted spot. We all know deep down he'll be sacked again.

We can't fill the spots we have lol

Yeah, a lot of truth in that.

 

[Cairnstigers]

Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it

Well Maguire was at Souths when he got sacked there and Pascoe was at Penrith when he got sacked from there. They know what their buying.

And Bennett bought Roberts from Brisbane to Souths
So asking Bennett isn't as silly as it sounds

 

[gallagher]

Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it

Well Maguire was at Souths when he got sacked there and Pascoe was at Penrith when he got sacked from there. They know what their buying.

And Bennett bought Roberts from Brisbane to Souths
So asking Bennett isn't as silly as it sounds

No, I didnt mean that, your spot on. Due diligence should dictate that.
I'm just saying they have first hand knowledge of his history so they cant just throw their hands up in air when it all goes to hell.

Its like when Cleary signed with Penrith when he had more than a year on his contract to go at the warriors. A couple of years later he does the same with us and Pascoe is dumdfounded that he could that. Who would have thought??

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it

So where has the heads rolled when we signed the following,
Mybe, Reynolds, Packer???? (Admin Wise)
Pascoe has been here since 2015 and looking like has learned nothing when it comes to recruiting.

All these players above were signed on these $ on his watch???
Then he cost us $675k Salary cap over 2 years with the Robbie Farah ambassador role???? The issue is at the top if we sign these type of players.

**Pascoe Signing story.**

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

Appointment in 2015, how have we fared.....?????

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

From Carayannis at DT

James Roberts is preparing to take a near $400,000 pay cut to rekindle his NRL career after a secret meeting with the Wests Tigers.

The Tigers are unlikely to pursue the man known as ‘Jimmy the Jet’, despite the former NSW centre’s asking price dipping below that of some rookie players.

Once able to command about $550,000 on the open market, Roberts is prepared to accept around $130,000 to show he can still be a first grade player.

Tigers boss Justin Pascoe, head of football Adam Hartigan and Roberts met at an inner-west cafe on Thursday morning. Roberts was joined by his manager Warwick Wright.


Wests Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis said the meeting, which took place before the club was officially told that premier target Josh Addo-Carr would remain in Melbourne, was more about checking in on Roberts’ welfare.

“Justin has a history with James from their Penrith days,” Hagipantelis said. “They reached out to see how he was, where he is at and what his thoughts are his own future. There was nothing more concrete then that.

“He has had a difficult year. There was no discussions of contracts or money.”

Of greater concern for the Tigers though is ensuring prop Josh Aloiai, who has emerged as a potential replacement for representative prop Addin Fonua-Blake at Manly, remains at the club.

Aloiai is in in-depth discussions with the Sea Eagles about joining the club from 2022 with the door ajar for the Samoan representative to sign with the club as early as next season, if he can secure a release from the Tigers.

Aloiai, who celebrated his 25th birthday on Wednesday, is off-contract at the end of 2021 but is now free to negotiate with rival clubs for 2022.

Earlier this month, South Sydney released Roberts from the final year of his contract on compassionate grounds.

Roberts, 27, hasn’t played since suffering a pectoral injury earlier in the season.

He also checked himself into a mental health facility this year to help with personal issues reportedly related to anxiety and depression.

It is understood Newcastle and Canterbury are two clubs not entertaining signing the former NSW Origin representative.


The Tigers are expected to turn their attention to Penrith’s Josh Mansour, who is chasing a three-year deal after being told he was no longer wanted at the Panthers.

The Tigers have been active in the player transfer market, also meeting with Josh Addo-Carr’s agent Mario Tartak on Thursday, suffering another blow as the NSW Origin winger Josh Addo-Carr decided to remain at Melbourne next season.

Despite actively seeking a release from the final year of his Storm deal to return home to Sydney on compassionate grounds, and signing a heads of agreement to join the Tigers if he were to leave the Storm in 2021, Melbourne officials informed the Tigers on Thursday that Addo-Carr’s request to switch clubs would not be granted.

Nothing to see here, just an old mate checking on his welfare, so we can all breathe a sigh of relief.

Why was Hartigan there then?

 

[twentyforty]

Let’s go back 5 years for a moment and reflect on our goals. What were they again?

“Pascoe joins the club in a tumultuous period.

The Tigers might finish last this season, have struggled financially and have had to deal with the fallout of attempting to force their captain Robbie Farah out of the club.

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

AAP

Posted 3 SepSeptember 2015”

How would you say we’re going with those lofty goals?

 

[cochise]

Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it


So where has the heads rolled when we signed the following,
Mybe, Reynolds, Packer???? (Admin Wise)
Pascoe has been here since 2015 and looking like has learned nothing when it comes to recruiting.

All these players above were signed on these $ on his watch???
Then he cost us $675k Salary cap over 2 years with the Robbie Farah ambassador role???? The issue is at the top if we sign these type of players.

**Pascoe Signing story.**

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

Appointment in 2015, how have we fared.....?????

Would need to know what the goals were from the Strategic Plan and if he achieved them.

 

[Kilgradumpy]

Jimmy the jet comes with too much baggage and leave him where he is. Apparently he wants out of Sydney and as far as I understand, Leichhardt and Concord were still in Sydney.
Pascoe has been at the helm for sometime now and the microscope needs to be pushed his way. We have purchased too many non performers on huge money with little reward. It is time for accountability at the top!

 

[gallagher]

Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it


So where has the heads rolled when we signed the following,
Mybe, Reynolds, Packer???? (Admin Wise)
Pascoe has been here since 2015 and looking like has learned nothing when it comes to recruiting.

All these players above were signed on these $ on his watch???
Then he cost us $675k Salary cap over 2 years with the Robbie Farah ambassador role???? The issue is at the top if we sign these type of players.

**Pascoe Signing story.**

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

Appointment in 2015, how have we fared.....?????

Would need to know what the goals were from the Strategic Plan and if he achieved them.

If onfield success isn't in a football clubs strategic plan then were in a worse position then I thought.

The correct answer is he failed miserably a couple of years ago.

 

[gallagher]

Jimmy the jet comes with too much baggage and leave him where he is. Apparently he wants out of Sydney and as far as I understand, Leichhardt and Concord were still in Sydney.
Pascoe has been at the helm for sometime now and the microscope needs to be pushed his way. We have purchased too many non performers on huge money with little reward. It is time for accountability at the top!

You can see by the way he presents himself that the board don't hold him to accoubtability. He's sitting back enjoying the easy ride.
Wests are his Alan Bond.

 

[Lauren]

This forum has managed to sway my mind multiple times re:Mansour and Roberts but it's now starting to become more of a sinking feeling.
Ofcourse nothing's guaranteed but can't help but have the strong suspicion we're repeating a very negative habit.
Frankly I see the appeal with both but don't enjoy the knock-on effect from poor decision making from management - who are supposed to be the pinnacle or top of our leadership.
It's done nothing but impact our productivity and left us vulnerable on all levels (from recruitment to onfield).