Jimmy the jet??

[Russell]

Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it


So where has the heads rolled when we signed the following,
Mybe, Reynolds, Packer???? (Admin Wise)
Pascoe has been here since 2015 and looking like has learned nothing when it comes to recruiting.

All these players above were signed on these $ on his watch???
Then he cost us $675k Salary cap over 2 years with the Robbie Farah ambassador role???? The issue is at the top if we sign these type of players.

**Pascoe Signing story.**

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

Appointment in 2015, how have we fared.....?????

Would need to know what the goals were from the Strategic Plan and if he achieved them.


If they were
* Being CEO of a Club that hasn’t finished in the top half of a 16 team Comp for the entirety of your tenure
*Being suspended for 6 months because you bungled a deal with a player
*That error hampering our Cap by over $600k over 2 seasons

Then he’s nailed it


He has 'achieved' all that and more. You left out he gave total power to his mate to sign up all his manager's clients on huge deals, rat on us and leave us with years of cap hell.

People rush to defend him though, and that is fine.

My only question to them is would Pascoe, with his record, have kept his job for so long at another club?
Would another club be fine with the way he presents himself? Would another club have accepted the self inflicted errors and the long term pandering to a bunch of largely unsuccessful senior players?

I would venture to say the answer would be 'no'.

Didn't realise Pascoe missed tackles


Well, he oversaw a 4 million dollar recruitment drive when Cleary came onboard of players who do miss them...more than missing tackles though, they miss games....and miss the finals....

He does not choose which players we put under contract.

 

[Russell]

Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it


So where has the heads rolled when we signed the following,
Mybe, Reynolds, Packer???? (Admin Wise)
Pascoe has been here since 2015 and looking like has learned nothing when it comes to recruiting.

All these players above were signed on these $ on his watch???
Then he cost us $675k Salary cap over 2 years with the Robbie Farah ambassador role???? The issue is at the top if we sign these type of players.

**Pascoe Signing story.**

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

Appointment in 2015, how have we fared.....?????

Would need to know what the goals were from the Strategic Plan and if he achieved them.

If onfield success isn't in a football clubs strategic plan then were in a worse position then I thought.

The correct answer is he failed miserably a couple of years ago.

Depends who has responsibility for which areas.

The NRL investigation come up with him being responsible.

And if he was REALLY responsible, he would have been given the flick.

Instead he took one for the team

Didn’t he admit guilt?

Like a team player

So he took the fall for someone else? Who?

Ask him Avo.

You tell me. He pleaded guilty. You said he wasn’t guilty so you must know who was?

I don't know, that's why I said ask him.

However I am as right as all the people on here that think he signs whatever players he wants and the amounts. Do you come in that category?

 

[avocadoontoast]

Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it


So where has the heads rolled when we signed the following,
Mybe, Reynolds, Packer???? (Admin Wise)
Pascoe has been here since 2015 and looking like has learned nothing when it comes to recruiting.

All these players above were signed on these $ on his watch???
Then he cost us $675k Salary cap over 2 years with the Robbie Farah ambassador role???? The issue is at the top if we sign these type of players.

**Pascoe Signing story.**

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

Appointment in 2015, how have we fared.....?????

Would need to know what the goals were from the Strategic Plan and if he achieved them.

If onfield success isn't in a football clubs strategic plan then were in a worse position then I thought.

The correct answer is he failed miserably a couple of years ago.

Depends who has responsibility for which areas.

The NRL investigation come up with him being responsible.

And if he was REALLY responsible, he would have been given the flick.

Instead he took one for the team

Didn’t he admit guilt?

Like a team player

So he took the fall for someone else? Who?

Ask him Avo.

You tell me. He pleaded guilty. You said he wasn’t guilty so you must know who was?

I don't know, that's why I said ask him.

However I am as right as all the people on here that think he signs whatever players he wants and the amounts. Do you come in that category?

So you are sure he was the fall guy but you don’t know who was actually guilty? There’s some holes in that logic Russ..

I think the buck stops with him as CEO and it’s a miracle he’s still employed. I think he’s completely out of his depth. But I’ve said this many many times before over a long period so no need to have that discussion yet again.

 

[Russell]

Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it


So where has the heads rolled when we signed the following,
Mybe, Reynolds, Packer???? (Admin Wise)
Pascoe has been here since 2015 and looking like has learned nothing when it comes to recruiting.

All these players above were signed on these $ on his watch???
Then he cost us $675k Salary cap over 2 years with the Robbie Farah ambassador role???? The issue is at the top if we sign these type of players.

**Pascoe Signing story.**

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

Appointment in 2015, how have we fared.....?????

Would need to know what the goals were from the Strategic Plan and if he achieved them.

If onfield success isn't in a football clubs strategic plan then were in a worse position then I thought.

The correct answer is he failed miserably a couple of years ago.

Depends who has responsibility for which areas.

The NRL investigation come up with him being responsible.

And if he was REALLY responsible, he would have been given the flick.

Instead he took one for the team

Didn’t he admit guilt?

Like a team player

So he took the fall for someone else? Who?

Ask him Avo.

You tell me. He pleaded guilty. You said he wasn’t guilty so you must know who was?

I don't know, that's why I said ask him.

However I am as right as all the people on here that think he signs whatever players he wants and the amounts. Do you come in that category?

So you are sure he was the fall guy but you don’t know who was actually guilty? There’s some holes in that logic Russ..

I think the buck stops with him as CEO and it’s a miracle he’s still employed. I think he’s completely out of his depth. But I’ve said this many many times before over a long period so no need to have that discussion yet again.

Agree. I like him, you don't.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it


So where has the heads rolled when we signed the following,
Mybe, Reynolds, Packer???? (Admin Wise)
Pascoe has been here since 2015 and looking like has learned nothing when it comes to recruiting.

All these players above were signed on these $ on his watch???
Then he cost us $675k Salary cap over 2 years with the Robbie Farah ambassador role???? The issue is at the top if we sign these type of players.

**Pascoe Signing story.**

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

Appointment in 2015, how have we fared.....?????

Would need to know what the goals were from the Strategic Plan and if he achieved them.

If onfield success isn't in a football clubs strategic plan then were in a worse position then I thought.

The correct answer is he failed miserably a couple of years ago.

Depends who has responsibility for which areas.

The NRL investigation come up with him being responsible.

And if he was REALLY responsible, he would have been given the flick.

Instead he took one for the team

Didn’t he admit guilt?

Like a team player

So he took the fall for someone else? Who?

Ask him Avo.

You tell me. He pleaded guilty. You said he wasn’t guilty so you must know who was?

I don't know, that's why I said ask him.

However I am as right as all the people on here that think he signs whatever players he wants and the amounts. Do you come in that category?

So you are sure he was the fall guy but you don’t know who was actually guilty? There’s some holes in that logic Russ..

I think the buck stops with him as CEO and it’s a miracle he’s still employed. I think he’s completely out of his depth. But I’ve said this many many times before over a long period so no need to have that discussion yet again.

Agree. I like him, you don't.

I like him fine, I’m sure he’s a top bloke. I just don’t think he’s done a good job.

 

[twentyforty]

My only question to them is would Pascoe, with his record, have kept his job for so long at another club?
Would another club be fine with the way he presents himself? Would another club have accepted the self inflicted errors and the long term pandering to a bunch of largely unsuccessful senior players?

Well then at that point your issue is with the board not the CEO.

I imagine Wests Ashfield could well have sacked Pascoe over the Farah mistake and subsequent fine/ban, but they didn't, so either he's good at his job and they want him to stay, or he is playing them all for mugs, or they are incompetent and don't know what a good CEO is.

I am like a broken record about this, but you only have to look slightly sideways - in 2018 former Manly CEO Joe Kelly was handed a 9-month suspension for his involvement in the Manly salary cap scandal, at which time he had joined the Roosters as CEO. He is still the Roosters CEO.

So is Joe Kelly a complete mug, and if yes, how does he end up CEO of Sydney's top club?

Forget about salary cap issues. It’s a side issue. Gosh, if we sacked every CEO who got on the wrong side of the salary cap ledger we wouldn’t have enough to rub together to start a fire. In the last 20 years there have been over 100 salary cap breaches.
The real issue is .. how do WT stay focussed on building a premiership winning team??

 

[earl]

This is where I think most fans are at, in that we want to know the ins and outs in addition to trusting the process.

I think that this is completely delusional. I don't want to know this and if we were told I think it'd be meaningless.

 

[BAGNF05]

Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it


So where has the heads rolled when we signed the following,
Mybe, Reynolds, Packer???? (Admin Wise)
Pascoe has been here since 2015 and looking like has learned nothing when it comes to recruiting.

All these players above were signed on these $ on his watch???
Then he cost us $675k Salary cap over 2 years with the Robbie Farah ambassador role???? The issue is at the top if we sign these type of players.

**Pascoe Signing story.**

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

Appointment in 2015, how have we fared.....?????

Would need to know what the goals were from the Strategic Plan and if he achieved them.

If onfield success isn't in a football clubs strategic plan then were in a worse position then I thought.

The correct answer is he failed miserably a couple of years ago.

Depends who has responsibility for which areas.

The NRL investigation come up with him being responsible.

And if he was REALLY responsible, he would have been given the flick.

Instead he took one for the team

Didn’t he admit guilt?

Like a team player

So he took the fall for someone else? Who?

Ask him Avo.

You tell me. He pleaded guilty. You said he wasn’t guilty so you must know who was?

I don't know, that's why I said ask him.

However I am as right as all the people on here that think he signs whatever players he wants and the amounts. Do you come in that category?

So you are sure he was the fall guy but you don’t know who was actually guilty? There’s some holes in that logic Russ..

I think the buck stops with him as CEO and it’s a miracle he’s still employed. I think he’s completely out of his depth. But I’ve said this many many times before over a long period so no need to have that discussion yet again.

100% Avo. We are doomed to be a two bob outfit until we have a proper leader. People (Cleary, Player Managers, Matto, Greenberg, Storm) have walked all over this club since he got here.

The Jet meeting should be his final act.

 

[Lauren]

This is where I think most fans are at, in that we want to know the ins and outs in addition to trusting the process.

**I think that this is completely delusional.** I don't want to know this and if we were told I think it'd be meaningless.

Sorry if my comment offended you but the key word in it was "most", so there's no need to be insulting.
Was only speaking out loud that most of us do want to know the more intricate details re:recruitment.

 

[twentyforty]

This forum has managed to sway my mind multiple times re:Mansour and Roberts but it's now starting to become more of a sinking feeling.
Ofcourse nothing's guaranteed but can't help but have the strong suspicion we're repeating a very negative habit.
Frankly I see the appeal with both but don't enjoy the knock-on effect from poor decision making from management - who are supposed to be the pinnacle or top of our leadership.
It's done nothing but impact our productivity and left us vulnerable on all levels (from recruitment to onfield).


I agree somewhat. I can’t seem to get a line on the recruitment strategy? My logic may be way off mark, but I would have thought we would start with a vision of what a premiership team looks like. Then a profile of each member of the team. Followed by a search and sign mission. Now some of those players may be under our noses but fewer of them will be tried players rejected by their clubs.

That is exactly what we have done, just having trouble attracting the players we need.

Everyone knows it’s not easy, but not everyone understands why we show desperation by deviating from the vision, as perceived. We know they’re not staying on course because their behaviour is reactionary. They become distracted by external movements. They’re treating the process like a game of chess , rather than creating their own opportunities.
At least that’s the way it appears.

 

[twentyforty]

This is where I think most fans are at, in that we want to know the ins and outs in addition to trusting the process.

**I think that this is completely delusional.** I don't want to know this and if we were told I think it'd be meaningless.

Sorry if my comment offended you but the key word in it was "most", so there's no need to be insulting.
Was only speaking out loud that most of us do want to know the more intricate details re:recruitment.

I agree with you 100% on that Lauren. I personally feel that the process of recruitment is more complex than it needs to be.
I would like to see a more streamlined process without the leaks to media, which are mostly opinion pieces.

 

[cochise]

This forum has managed to sway my mind multiple times re:Mansour and Roberts but it's now starting to become more of a sinking feeling.
Ofcourse nothing's guaranteed but can't help but have the strong suspicion we're repeating a very negative habit.
Frankly I see the appeal with both but don't enjoy the knock-on effect from poor decision making from management - who are supposed to be the pinnacle or top of our leadership.
It's done nothing but impact our productivity and left us vulnerable on all levels (from recruitment to onfield).


I agree somewhat. I can’t seem to get a line on the recruitment strategy? My logic may be way off mark, but I would have thought we would start with a vision of what a premiership team looks like. Then a profile of each member of the team. Followed by a search and sign mission. Now some of those players may be under our noses but fewer of them will be tried players rejected by their clubs.

That is exactly what we have done, just having trouble attracting the players we need.


Everyone knows it’s not easy, but not everyone understands why we show desperation by deviating from the vision, as perceived. We know they’re not staying on course because their behaviour is reactionary. They become distracted by external movements. They’re treating the process like a game of chess , rather than creating their own opportunities.
At least that’s the way it appears.

I have been very clear about the reactionary nature of our recruitment, signing players that have been released by other clubs. There are however signs we are moving beyond that, the attempt to sign JAC and LM, the identification of the benefit of Tamou and then going out and signing him and especially the signing of so many strong young prospects. Hopefully soon we will land the big fish we are now chasing to go along with that youth.

 

[cochise]

This is where I think most fans are at, in that we want to know the ins and outs in addition to trusting the process.

**I think that this is completely delusional.** I don't want to know this and if we were told I think it'd be meaningless.

Sorry if my comment offended you but the key word in it was "most", so there's no need to be insulting.
Was only speaking out loud that most of us do want to know the more intricate details re:recruitment.


I agree with you 100% on that Lauren. I personally feel that the process of recruitment is more complex than it needs to be.
I would like to see a more streamlined process without the leaks to media, which are mostly opinion pieces.

We haven't leaked to the media in ages. I see recruitment as an extremely complex endeavour, how would you streamline recruitment?

 

[BAGNF05]

This is where I think most fans are at, in that we want to know the ins and outs in addition to trusting the process.

**I think that this is completely delusional.** I don't want to know this and if we were told I think it'd be meaningless.

Sorry if my comment offended you but the key word in it was "most", so there's no need to be insulting.
Was only speaking out loud that most of us do want to know the more intricate details re:recruitment.


I agree with you 100% on that Lauren. I personally feel that the process of recruitment is more complex than it needs to be.
I would like to see a more streamlined process without the leaks to media, which are mostly opinion pieces.

We haven't leaked to the media in ages. I see recruitment as an extremely complex endeavour, how would you streamline recruitment?

Easy. There’s gotta be what, about 30 different players on the market that could improve the WT. we need to put a dollar value on each one and engage their manager with our interest.

From there you have maybe 8-10 that show any interest. Then it should be up to Madge to decide which ones we go after. In my opinion we should be offering about 25% more than other clubs due to our predicament/reputation.

Land none of them and we rely on the kids. Questions need to be asked why and changes need to be made.

Land 3-4 of them and we are back in the game.

Current strategy reeks of desperation and lack of planning.

 

[cochise]

This is where I think most fans are at, in that we want to know the ins and outs in addition to trusting the process.

**I think that this is completely delusional.** I don't want to know this and if we were told I think it'd be meaningless.

Sorry if my comment offended you but the key word in it was "most", so there's no need to be insulting.
Was only speaking out loud that most of us do want to know the more intricate details re:recruitment.


I agree with you 100% on that Lauren. I personally feel that the process of recruitment is more complex than it needs to be.
I would like to see a more streamlined process without the leaks to media, which are mostly opinion pieces.

We haven't leaked to the media in ages. I see recruitment as an extremely complex endeavour, how would you streamline recruitment?

Easy. There’s gotta be what, about 30 different players on the market that could improve the WT. we need to put a dollar value on each one and engage their manager with our interest.

From there you have maybe 8-10 that show any interest. Then it should be up to Madge to decide which ones we go after. In my opinion we should be offering about 25% more than other clubs due to our predicament/reputation.

Land none of them and we rely on the kids. Questions need to be asked why and changes need to be made.

Land 3-4 of them and we are back in the game.

Current strategy reeks of desperation and lack of planning.

That is exactly what we do, the club knows what it wants in regards to players and is actively trying to entice those players to the club. Due to our last 10 years that is not working out with the established stars, so we need to build through the youth we are managing to attract.

 

[BAGNF05]

This is where I think most fans are at, in that we want to know the ins and outs in addition to trusting the process.

**I think that this is completely delusional.** I don't want to know this and if we were told I think it'd be meaningless.

Sorry if my comment offended you but the key word in it was "most", so there's no need to be insulting.
Was only speaking out loud that most of us do want to know the more intricate details re:recruitment.


I agree with you 100% on that Lauren. I personally feel that the process of recruitment is more complex than it needs to be.
I would like to see a more streamlined process without the leaks to media, which are mostly opinion pieces.

We haven't leaked to the media in ages. I see recruitment as an extremely complex endeavour, how would you streamline recruitment?

Easy. There’s gotta be what, about 30 different players on the market that could improve the WT. we need to put a dollar value on each one and engage their manager with our interest.

From there you have maybe 8-10 that show any interest. Then it should be up to Madge to decide which ones we go after. In my opinion we should be offering about 25% more than other clubs due to our predicament/reputation.

Land none of them and we rely on the kids. Questions need to be asked why and changes need to be made.

Land 3-4 of them and we are back in the game.

Current strategy reeks of desperation and lack of planning.

That is exactly what we do, the club knows what it wants in regards to players and is actively trying to entice those players to the club. Due to our last 10 years that is not working out with the established stars, so we need to build through the youth we are managing to attract.

Then we are stumbling at the self-awareness stage. What makes us so unattractive that people knock back a 25% pay increase? There must be lots of non-monetary things that we aren’t offering. Just an example but I’m sure Teddy can take his girlfriend to a nice restaurant and gets the A1 treatment, probably grabs a free cup of coffee at his favourite cafe. His mum’s real estate advice is probably taken care of.

This professionalism is (in my view) where we are well behind the pack.

 

[cochise]

This is where I think most fans are at, in that we want to know the ins and outs in addition to trusting the process.

**I think that this is completely delusional.** I don't want to know this and if we were told I think it'd be meaningless.

Sorry if my comment offended you but the key word in it was "most", so there's no need to be insulting.
Was only speaking out loud that most of us do want to know the more intricate details re:recruitment.


I agree with you 100% on that Lauren. I personally feel that the process of recruitment is more complex than it needs to be.
I would like to see a more streamlined process without the leaks to media, which are mostly opinion pieces.

We haven't leaked to the media in ages. I see recruitment as an extremely complex endeavour, how would you streamline recruitment?

Easy. There’s gotta be what, about 30 different players on the market that could improve the WT. we need to put a dollar value on each one and engage their manager with our interest.

From there you have maybe 8-10 that show any interest. Then it should be up to Madge to decide which ones we go after. In my opinion we should be offering about 25% more than other clubs due to our predicament/reputation.

Land none of them and we rely on the kids. Questions need to be asked why and changes need to be made.

Land 3-4 of them and we are back in the game.

Current strategy reeks of desperation and lack of planning.

That is exactly what we do, the club knows what it wants in regards to players and is actively trying to entice those players to the club. Due to our last 10 years that is not working out with the established stars, so we need to build through the youth we are managing to attract.

Then we are stumbling at the self-awareness stage. What makes us so unattractive that people knock back a 25% pay increase? There must be lots of non-monetary things that we aren’t offering. Just an example but I’m sure Teddy can take his girlfriend to a nice restaurant and gets the A1 treatment, probably grabs a free cup of coffee at his favourite cafe. His mum’s real estate advice is probably taken care of.

This professionalism is (in my view) where we are well behind the pack.

What makes us unattractive is that we haven't played finals in a decade, that we have had 5 coaches in that time, that we knifed our 2 highest profile players, that we have been training in worse facilities than you would find at your local gym, literally below an unused grandstand that also housed our offices, players have been coming here to have their career killed when they chase that payrise you talk about.

It takes time to rectify that sort of wrap, but hey you want to create more instability, maybe that will fix it.

 

[BAGNF05]

This is where I think most fans are at, in that we want to know the ins and outs in addition to trusting the process.

**I think that this is completely delusional.** I don't want to know this and if we were told I think it'd be meaningless.

Sorry if my comment offended you but the key word in it was "most", so there's no need to be insulting.
Was only speaking out loud that most of us do want to know the more intricate details re:recruitment.


I agree with you 100% on that Lauren. I personally feel that the process of recruitment is more complex than it needs to be.
I would like to see a more streamlined process without the leaks to media, which are mostly opinion pieces.

We haven't leaked to the media in ages. I see recruitment as an extremely complex endeavour, how would you streamline recruitment?

Easy. There’s gotta be what, about 30 different players on the market that could improve the WT. we need to put a dollar value on each one and engage their manager with our interest.

From there you have maybe 8-10 that show any interest. Then it should be up to Madge to decide which ones we go after. In my opinion we should be offering about 25% more than other clubs due to our predicament/reputation.

Land none of them and we rely on the kids. Questions need to be asked why and changes need to be made.

Land 3-4 of them and we are back in the game.

Current strategy reeks of desperation and lack of planning.

That is exactly what we do, the club knows what it wants in regards to players and is actively trying to entice those players to the club. Due to our last 10 years that is not working out with the established stars, so we need to build through the youth we are managing to attract.

Then we are stumbling at the self-awareness stage. What makes us so unattractive that people knock back a 25% pay increase? There must be lots of non-monetary things that we aren’t offering. Just an example but I’m sure Teddy can take his girlfriend to a nice restaurant and gets the A1 treatment, probably grabs a free cup of coffee at his favourite cafe. His mum’s real estate advice is probably taken care of.

This professionalism is (in my view) where we are well behind the pack.



What makes us unattractive is that we haven't played finals in a decade, that we have had 5 coaches in that time, that we knifed our 2 highest profile players, that we have been training in worse facilities than you would find at your local gym, literally below an unused grandstand that also housed our offices, players have been coming here to have their career killed when they chase that payrise you talk about.

It takes time to rectify that sort of wrap, but hey you want to create more instability, maybe that will fix it.

I agree the facilities are a problem but the club are taking steps to fix that, can’t really crucify anyone for that.

But the cycling through coaches and signing underperforming players, that’s on the decision makers 100%. Were not killing careers were signing blokes who’se career is already 6 ft under.

Ahem roberts ahem Mansour

 

[cochise]

This is where I think most fans are at, in that we want to know the ins and outs in addition to trusting the process.

**I think that this is completely delusional.** I don't want to know this and if we were told I think it'd be meaningless.

Sorry if my comment offended you but the key word in it was "most", so there's no need to be insulting.
Was only speaking out loud that most of us do want to know the more intricate details re:recruitment.


I agree with you 100% on that Lauren. I personally feel that the process of recruitment is more complex than it needs to be.
I would like to see a more streamlined process without the leaks to media, which are mostly opinion pieces.

We haven't leaked to the media in ages. I see recruitment as an extremely complex endeavour, how would you streamline recruitment?

Easy. There’s gotta be what, about 30 different players on the market that could improve the WT. we need to put a dollar value on each one and engage their manager with our interest.

From there you have maybe 8-10 that show any interest. Then it should be up to Madge to decide which ones we go after. In my opinion we should be offering about 25% more than other clubs due to our predicament/reputation.

Land none of them and we rely on the kids. Questions need to be asked why and changes need to be made.

Land 3-4 of them and we are back in the game.

Current strategy reeks of desperation and lack of planning.

That is exactly what we do, the club knows what it wants in regards to players and is actively trying to entice those players to the club. Due to our last 10 years that is not working out with the established stars, so we need to build through the youth we are managing to attract.

Then we are stumbling at the self-awareness stage. What makes us so unattractive that people knock back a 25% pay increase? There must be lots of non-monetary things that we aren’t offering. Just an example but I’m sure Teddy can take his girlfriend to a nice restaurant and gets the A1 treatment, probably grabs a free cup of coffee at his favourite cafe. His mum’s real estate advice is probably taken care of.

This professionalism is (in my view) where we are well behind the pack.



What makes us unattractive is that we haven't played finals in a decade, that we have had 5 coaches in that time, that we knifed our 2 highest profile players, that we have been training in worse facilities than you would find at your local gym, literally below an unused grandstand that also housed our offices, players have been coming here to have their career killed when they chase that payrise you talk about.

It takes time to rectify that sort of wrap, but hey you want to create more instability, maybe that will fix it.

I agree the facilities are a problem but the club are taking steps to fix that, can’t really crucify anyone for that.

But the cycling through coaches and signing underperforming players, that’s on the decision makers 100%. Were not killing careers were signing blokes who’se career is already 6 ft under.

Ahem roberts ahem Mansour

Roberts at $130k is ok, I don't want Mansour either.

I'm not talking about the reality when I talk about killing careers, how do you think it looks to other players when we sign people to big contracts and then playing them in reserve grade. Who would want to come here after that.

Perception is reality.

 

[BAGNF05]

This is where I think most fans are at, in that we want to know the ins and outs in addition to trusting the process.

**I think that this is completely delusional.** I don't want to know this and if we were told I think it'd be meaningless.

Sorry if my comment offended you but the key word in it was "most", so there's no need to be insulting.
Was only speaking out loud that most of us do want to know the more intricate details re:recruitment.


I agree with you 100% on that Lauren. I personally feel that the process of recruitment is more complex than it needs to be.
I would like to see a more streamlined process without the leaks to media, which are mostly opinion pieces.

We haven't leaked to the media in ages. I see recruitment as an extremely complex endeavour, how would you streamline recruitment?

Easy. There’s gotta be what, about 30 different players on the market that could improve the WT. we need to put a dollar value on each one and engage their manager with our interest.

From there you have maybe 8-10 that show any interest. Then it should be up to Madge to decide which ones we go after. In my opinion we should be offering about 25% more than other clubs due to our predicament/reputation.

Land none of them and we rely on the kids. Questions need to be asked why and changes need to be made.

Land 3-4 of them and we are back in the game.

Current strategy reeks of desperation and lack of planning.

That is exactly what we do, the club knows what it wants in regards to players and is actively trying to entice those players to the club. Due to our last 10 years that is not working out with the established stars, so we need to build through the youth we are managing to attract.

Then we are stumbling at the self-awareness stage. What makes us so unattractive that people knock back a 25% pay increase? There must be lots of non-monetary things that we aren’t offering. Just an example but I’m sure Teddy can take his girlfriend to a nice restaurant and gets the A1 treatment, probably grabs a free cup of coffee at his favourite cafe. His mum’s real estate advice is probably taken care of.

This professionalism is (in my view) where we are well behind the pack.



What makes us unattractive is that we haven't played finals in a decade, that we have had 5 coaches in that time, that we knifed our 2 highest profile players, that we have been training in worse facilities than you would find at your local gym, literally below an unused grandstand that also housed our offices, players have been coming here to have their career killed when they chase that payrise you talk about.

It takes time to rectify that sort of wrap, but hey you want to create more instability, maybe that will fix it.

I agree the facilities are a problem but the club are taking steps to fix that, can’t really crucify anyone for that.

But the cycling through coaches and signing underperforming players, that’s on the decision makers 100%. Were not killing careers were signing blokes who’se career is already 6 ft under.

Ahem roberts ahem Mansour

Roberts at $130k is ok, I don't want Mansour either.

I'm not talking about the reality when I talk about killing careers, how do you think it looks to other players when we sign people to big contracts and then playing them in reserve grade. Who would want to come here after that.

Perception is reality.

How do you justify the Roberts deal? He’s been sacked for discipline numerous times. Clearly he had done something majorly wrong at Souths. Just walked away from half a mill no questions asked. And you think that will help with perception????