Joe Ofahengaue #240

I think we'll see him turn the corner with us. Slowly but surely the club is making smart decisions off the field and we've now almost got a squad which is very balanced in terms of salary cap, with Packer and Mbye the exceptions.
 
@willow said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278474) said:
I think we'll see him turn the corner with us. Slowly but surely the club is making smart decisions off the field and we've now almost got a squad which is very balanced in terms of salary cap, with Packer and Mbye the exceptions.

The decision makers are making the right calls at the moment. We finally have the right people in these important roles.
 
Even though Packer and Mbye are expensive re the cap...dont write them off this coming season...Madge holds both of them in high regard and they both have been superb NRL players...injuries can set players back a mile and both have had their share...
 
@TigerWest said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278377):

. I told my missus 'we're going to the Tigers'."

Great story, good work recruitment and media guys. Imagine a player that wants to come and play for Madge. 👍
 
@TrueTiger said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278514) said:
Even though Packer and Mbye are expensive re the cap...dont write them off this coming season...Madge holds both of them in high regard and they both have been superb NRL players...injuries can set players back a mile and both have had their share...

Injury excuse is bull. If your playing then dont make excuses. The fact is Packer rarely runs over 60-70m when we need a prop running 120m +. Earlier he goes the better.
 
Yep its easy to belittle players when their down and out...Packer was very good when he first joined us and many were pleased when he and Matalino were the front row combo...but yeah critisise me all you want...
 
@SeanT said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278547) said:
Injury excuse is bull. If your playing then dont make excuses.

I never get this theory. I'm sure the coach knows who is playing busted and sometimes says, "I need you out there even if you can only give me 70%." Otherwise we'd have 14 players some weeks.


*note: not defending Packer!
 
@TrueTiger said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278553) said:
Yep its easy to belittle players when their down and out...Packer was very good when he first joined us and many were pleased when he and Matalino were the front row combo...but yeah critisise me all you want...

Who was that was happy? No one was happy but we needed something. However he was overpaid 33% on his contract and he never played that well. Sure he did alot of decoys and a few othrr things but when your on that money and putting out 50 running metres a game then im sorry we need him to move on.
 
@TrueTiger said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278514) said:
Even though Packer and Mbye are expensive re the cap...dont write them off this coming season...Madge holds both of them in high regard and they both have been superb NRL players...injuries can set players back a mile and both have had their share...

I'm with you on this TT and was not surprised at all when Aloiai had his knickers in a knot that he wasn't getting the accolades via votes from the playing group compared to Packer. People see different things watching a game and whilst he certainly isn't earning his reported salary in run metres the tough stuff and work he does around the ruck and as an A defender is very much appreciated by those alongside. And yes, even the forum favourite's decoy runs.

Mbye doesn't earn his pay grade either, but is a top 17 player pretty well across the competition, if not every squad.
 
@SeanT said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278561) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278553) said:
Yep its easy to belittle players when their down and out...Packer was very good when he first joined us and many were pleased when he and Matalino were the front row combo...but yeah critisise me all you want...

Who was that was happy? No one was happy but we needed something. However he was overpaid 33% on his contract and he never played that well. Sure he did alot of decoys and a few othrr things but when your on that money and putting out 50 running metres a game then im sorry we need him to move on.

Ivan wanted him and gave him the salary....take it up with him...
Packer was a very good player when he was bought over to us....you have your opinion and I will keep mine....
 
@TrueTiger said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278565) said:
@SeanT said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278561) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278553) said:
Yep its easy to belittle players when their down and out...Packer was very good when he first joined us and many were pleased when he and Matalino were the front row combo...but yeah critisise me all you want...

Who was that was happy? No one was happy but we needed something. However he was overpaid 33% on his contract and he never played that well. Sure he did alot of decoys and a few othrr things but when your on that money and putting out 50 running metres a game then im sorry we need him to move on.

Ivan wanted him and gave him the salary....take it up with him...
Packer was a very good player when he was bought over to us....you have your opinion and I will keep mine....

I was just saying j wasnt happy with the signings. It felt rushed and we paid too much at the time which has ended up that way.

Packer was an average player that had occasionly above average games.
 
@TrueTiger said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278514) said:
Even though Packer and Mbye are expensive re the cap...dont write them off this coming season...Madge holds both of them in high regard and they both have been superb NRL players...injuries can set players back a mile and both have had their share...

Madge does not hold Packer in high regard.
 
@willow said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278608) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278514) said:
Even though Packer and Mbye are expensive re the cap...dont write them off this coming season...Madge holds both of them in high regard and they both have been superb NRL players...injuries can set players back a mile and both have had their share...

Madge does not hold Packer in high regard.


I’m no expert on group dynamics, but when you have a few in the team with “leadership qualities” who are also unhappy then you don’t have a team. Those “leaders” are now leaving, which is great news if you’re looking to build teamwork. ?
 
@TrueTiger said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278565) said:
@SeanT said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278561) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278553) said:
Yep its easy to belittle players when their down and out...Packer was very good when he first joined us and many were pleased when he and Matalino were the front row combo...but yeah critisise me all you want...

Who was that was happy? No one was happy but we needed something. However he was overpaid 33% on his contract and he never played that well. Sure he did alot of decoys and a few othrr things but when your on that money and putting out 50 running metres a game then im sorry we need him to move on.

Ivan wanted him and gave him the salary....take it up with him...
Packer was a very good player when he was bought over to us....you have your opinion and I will keep mine....

Yes, Packer was at career best form with the Dragons the season we signed him.
When he linked up with Mats early we expected a lot, but got not a lot in return.

What though needs to be asked is why the drop? Is it Packer Cruising on a 4 year contract or is it the way we train and motivate? I think it's us! We have signed a lot of people who were great players and they come here and they go down a step. With the Center of excellence finally happening we may be able to remedy some of this but we need to be honest about why some players haven't been great coming here. I don't know the answer, lets ask the right questions.
 
Next, Harry Grant is probably off the market.

Sign Angus Crichon. Else take a brief look Broncos way for Joe's buddy (If Matthew Lodge wasn't offered 1 million a season I would upgrade that Donkey).
 
Melbourne has given Brandon Smith the opportunity for an early release if they get someone to replace him. I'd love to see him here but he only wants to play DH - he would be the answer to our prayers for a number 13.
 
@crazycat said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278623) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278565) said:
@SeanT said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278561) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Joe Ofahengaue Next ??](/post/1278553) said:
Yep its easy to belittle players when their down and out...Packer was very good when he first joined us and many were pleased when he and Matalino were the front row combo...but yeah critisise me all you want...

Who was that was happy? No one was happy but we needed something. However he was overpaid 33% on his contract and he never played that well. Sure he did alot of decoys and a few othrr things but when your on that money and putting out 50 running metres a game then im sorry we need him to move on.

Ivan wanted him and gave him the salary....take it up with him...
Packer was a very good player when he was bought over to us....you have your opinion and I will keep mine....

Yes, Packer was at career best form with the Dragons the season we signed him.
When he linked up with Mats early we expected a lot, but got not a lot in return.

What though needs to be asked is why the drop? Is it Packer Cruising on a 4 year contract or is it the way we train and motivate? I think it's us! We have signed a lot of people who were great players and they come here and they go down a step. With the Center of excellence finally happening we may be able to remedy some of this but we need to be honest about why some players haven't been great coming here. I don't know the answer, lets ask the right questions.


The question should be "Why do we throw big money at pensioners?".Fortunately Madge is not following that philososphy.
 
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