Josh Aloiai #190
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I think he's one of the few that should not be in the firing line at the end of season. Lawrence, Brooks, Lovett, Sirro, Kev, Simona - lets start there. If ever there was someone to be pretty comfortable with after playing every game through injury in his first year, then it's this bloke.
jirskyr
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For a first-year rookie I think he did fairly well. He's no SBW but we have more experienced players who have less upside.
Definitely needs to work on his defensive reads, mobility and stamina, but that's all part of having multiple pre-seasons under his belt.
Also OP and some others seem to have missed the background that tiga4eva notes - Aloiai was signed by Tigers whilst he had a fractured hip and did not have a proper pre-season. I'm not surprised he toiled a little in the final rounds, considering he played every match and was getting 40-60 minutes in each of the last 7 games.
It's not a great defensive pairing to put him with Moses, but it's not exactly Aloiai's fault that Moses is a turnstile.
Definitely needs to work on his defensive reads, mobility and stamina, but that's all part of having multiple pre-seasons under his belt.
Also OP and some others seem to have missed the background that tiga4eva notes - Aloiai was signed by Tigers whilst he had a fractured hip and did not have a proper pre-season. I'm not surprised he toiled a little in the final rounds, considering he played every match and was getting 40-60 minutes in each of the last 7 games.
It's not a great defensive pairing to put him with Moses, but it's not exactly Aloiai's fault that Moses is a turnstile.
@jirskyr said:
I don't think he's ever had a full professional pre-season - missed last year, and previous years would have been with the NYC lot?
As I said earlier, there's a lot of improvement to come, and I think he'll get there (with time).
The issue is that a raw kid like him is deemed good enough to start games. Not his fault that our backrow options are so awful.
sideline_eye
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I think he's shown enough as a rookie to predict that he will be a top flight NRL back rower. Yes, he does have a lot of work to do but he'll do it and his game will get better as time goes on. Given that he came straight out of Holden Cup to the NRL, this has been a great year from him.
stevetiger
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@notarealtiger said:
Yesterday he didn't seem to have the ability to defend out wide. Too slow laterally.
Maybe he should only be played at prop.
Tim Sheens
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@tiga4eva said:
Good, because if he plays on the right then he should be palming the slide defence with his left. A lot was asked of him this year and he generally delivered.
851
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@ricksen said:
That sums it up, went ok for us, but wouldn't get a starting spot in any other NRL team.
Harvey
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@cktiger said:
Yesterday he had to cover inside and outside Moses as he was busy standing in the opposition backline having rushed up past the ball.
Harvey
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Lateral movement is a worry, but showed more than a few of the glamour boys. Could be a good tight forward. Re-signed for one year, so if does step up next year we will get caught in a bidding war and lose him
starling04
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I think a lot of people are forgetting that he is only 20 years old which is incredibly young for a forward. I thought he played fairly well this year considering his age and the fact he had a very limited pre season due to a fractured hip. I thought he had some good games towards the back end of the season against dragons and I think parra too but it will be interesting to see how he develops after a full off season. I expect him to improve next year but I guess time will tell. He will probably develop into a prop by his mid 20s as he grows.
Tiger_Watto
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This kid will be great in 12months…
I'd like to see him play a fraction wider. Just a line 2-3 meters wider, running in his lane all game similar to Ethan Lowe.
Defensively he is improving, but is being forced to defend too tight to cover our middle. [opposition collapse our middle far too often] This has resulted in him being continually focused on his inside, but his main priority needs to be Mitchell.
As I mentioned. In 12 months I reckon you will all change your opinions and start to enjoy his many off-loads, tries and big hits.
I'd like to see him play a fraction wider. Just a line 2-3 meters wider, running in his lane all game similar to Ethan Lowe.
Defensively he is improving, but is being forced to defend too tight to cover our middle. [opposition collapse our middle far too often] This has resulted in him being continually focused on his inside, but his main priority needs to be Mitchell.
As I mentioned. In 12 months I reckon you will all change your opinions and start to enjoy his many off-loads, tries and big hits.
Broken jaw gives Aloiai timely perspective
Chris Kennedy Fri 23 Dec, 2016, 6:00am
By Chris Kennedy , National Correspondent , NRL.com
Broken jaw gives Aloiai timely perspective
Josh Aloiai with Santa at Liverpool Hospital's Paediatric Unit. Copyright: Wests Tigers.
Laying in hospital following surgery to put plates into a jaw broken in several places helped Wests Tigers back-rower Josh Aloiai appreciate how tough some people have it at this time of year.
Aloiai was among several Tigers players to visit Liverpool Hospital's Paediatric Unit on Monday to hand out Christmas gifts donated by club members to kids spending the holiday period in hospital and Aloiai told NRL.com that his own recent hospital stint meant he'd been particularly looking forward to doing something nice for the kids.
"With the time I spent in hospital recently I was really looking forward to doing this visit," Aloiai said.
"I had some empathy for the kids we were about to visit and couldn't help thinking about the toy drive we were about to do. I was really excited since then to do this toy drive.
"I couldn't help but think about all the kids that are going to spend their Christmas in hospital."
The devout 21-year-old said football was just as much about giving back to the community as what players do on the field.
"A lot of the kids are going through a tough time at the moment so for us to come and cheer them up a little bit I think makes a world of difference for them and we're blessed to be able to do it," he said.
"Footy's not just about what we do on the field, not what we do at training; it's about being able to use that to go and bless people.
"I know the boys love doing it and we love it even more once we see the reaction of the kids and the parents and the whole thing."
Aloiai suffered the broken jaw just three weeks into the club's return to training at a beach session but politely declined to dob in which teammate it was who clobbered him, causing several fractures to his jaw.
"Three weeks into pre-season we were doing a contact session on the beach and I just copped a bit of a shot in the jaw and got a few breaks. I had surgery that weeks and had a few weeks off but back training now," he said.
"I can't remember, I don't want to do dropping any names, we'll keep that on the hush!" he laughed. "Accidents happen, that's footy."
Aloiai is already back in full training minus the contact sessions.
"At the moment I'm back to everything except for contact, it's been really quick actually. After the Christmas break I should be practically be into everything," he said.
The former Eels NYC player – who in 2016 became the first Wests Tigers player to play every year in his debut season – said he'd be treating his breakthrough year as a building block while the club would feed on the pain of missing the finals by one game as it looked to go even better in 2017.
"Last year was a really good year [personally] and I'm really happy with how it went. That's pretty much the building block and foundation moving into this year. It's onward and upward this year," he said.
"Being one game out of the finals really hurt. Even though we're moving forward we're holding onto that pain and we're not going to allow ourselves to feel that again and we're gunning hard for the top eight this year."
http://www.nrl.com/broken-jaw-gives-aloiai-timely-perspective/tabid/10874/newsid/103015/default.aspx
Chris Kennedy Fri 23 Dec, 2016, 6:00am
By Chris Kennedy , National Correspondent , NRL.com
Broken jaw gives Aloiai timely perspective
Josh Aloiai with Santa at Liverpool Hospital's Paediatric Unit. Copyright: Wests Tigers.
Laying in hospital following surgery to put plates into a jaw broken in several places helped Wests Tigers back-rower Josh Aloiai appreciate how tough some people have it at this time of year.
Aloiai was among several Tigers players to visit Liverpool Hospital's Paediatric Unit on Monday to hand out Christmas gifts donated by club members to kids spending the holiday period in hospital and Aloiai told NRL.com that his own recent hospital stint meant he'd been particularly looking forward to doing something nice for the kids.
"With the time I spent in hospital recently I was really looking forward to doing this visit," Aloiai said.
"I had some empathy for the kids we were about to visit and couldn't help thinking about the toy drive we were about to do. I was really excited since then to do this toy drive.
"I couldn't help but think about all the kids that are going to spend their Christmas in hospital."
The devout 21-year-old said football was just as much about giving back to the community as what players do on the field.
"A lot of the kids are going through a tough time at the moment so for us to come and cheer them up a little bit I think makes a world of difference for them and we're blessed to be able to do it," he said.
"Footy's not just about what we do on the field, not what we do at training; it's about being able to use that to go and bless people.
"I know the boys love doing it and we love it even more once we see the reaction of the kids and the parents and the whole thing."
Aloiai suffered the broken jaw just three weeks into the club's return to training at a beach session but politely declined to dob in which teammate it was who clobbered him, causing several fractures to his jaw.
"Three weeks into pre-season we were doing a contact session on the beach and I just copped a bit of a shot in the jaw and got a few breaks. I had surgery that weeks and had a few weeks off but back training now," he said.
"I can't remember, I don't want to do dropping any names, we'll keep that on the hush!" he laughed. "Accidents happen, that's footy."
Aloiai is already back in full training minus the contact sessions.
"At the moment I'm back to everything except for contact, it's been really quick actually. After the Christmas break I should be practically be into everything," he said.
The former Eels NYC player – who in 2016 became the first Wests Tigers player to play every year in his debut season – said he'd be treating his breakthrough year as a building block while the club would feed on the pain of missing the finals by one game as it looked to go even better in 2017.
"Last year was a really good year [personally] and I'm really happy with how it went. That's pretty much the building block and foundation moving into this year. It's onward and upward this year," he said.
"Being one game out of the finals really hurt. Even though we're moving forward we're holding onto that pain and we're not going to allow ourselves to feel that again and we're gunning hard for the top eight this year."
http://www.nrl.com/broken-jaw-gives-aloiai-timely-perspective/tabid/10874/newsid/103015/default.aspx
What a fantastic young man Josh Aloiai is…a great asset to our Club..His continuing development on the field will go a long way to building our success..
P.S... I'll drop it..Seumanufagai...
P.S... I'll drop it..Seumanufagai...
king_sirro
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Not sure i like doing contact sessions on sand. I wonder if Ava collecting Josh high had anything to do with unstable ground effecting his timing and balance? Maybe Josh slipped snd dipped due to the grlund at the wring time and bang, broken jaw? Just guess work of course, but gee, i reckon a few injuries could come out of contact beach work that wouldnt necessarily happen on a normal surface.
