Josh Reynolds Charged

[Deleted member 3518]

I hear this innocent until proven guilty sentiment a lot, and from my understanding never having had any legal training, I think it's meant to be at the root of our justice system - but it just ain't so. Allegations of DV stick to people because of the highly sensitive and emotionally charged nature of DV. These allegations may be dropped, there may be nothing to them, they may be completely falsified, but in a lot of peoples eyes Josh will have this hanging over his head a long time (maybe forever) regardless.

I have no knowledge of what happened here, I don't know anyone involved. If it's a lie, Josh needs help, because being falsely accused of this is huge. And if it's true, Josh needs help, as he needs to change or he should (imo) end up in prison as all people should who treat others like that.

Either way, the NRL will just try to protect their image, WT need to help Josh as he's our responsibility. To the lady on the other side, whatever happened, I hope you're alright and this while situation ends soon and never happens again to you/ with you.

No mate , what you’re talking about is called a kangaroo court . There’s no justice in the fact this happens and in many ways it actually interferes with any search for true justice , as it clouds both the narrative as well as the inevitable resolution . People suck , and rarely find out all the information before forming , sometimes life changing opinions , and actions .
It’s kind of crazy really .

 

[BZN]

What's with all the deleted posts? I mean I'm all for the mods ensuring a certain standard on here, but if you want to start deleting any post that isn't slightly on track or is slightly amusing then there's not going to be much on here. I've seen post with personal bagging or having a crack on spelling etc and that gets let go. Mods, can i ask what criteria you have for deleting posts? or does this depend on how picky you are each day?

Discretionary. Off topic posts are generally tolerated unless they overrun a thread. Personal insults are generally deleted, if they are still here they have been missed.

If you have concerns about posts that have been left, feel free to report them.

G'day @Cultured_Bogan I second what @Tcat said re "I'm all for mods ensuring a certain standard on here" but please explain what "Off topic posts are generally tolerated unless they overrun a thread" from your post means.

I have had many of my posts deleted which have contained no swearing or put downs.

Three of those deleted posts were welcoming new members to our Wests Tigers Forum, and I believe I was friendly and welcoming in my wording.

A post of mine in this thread in support of @Strongee was deleted as well as his post, and again I believe neither his or my post warranted deletion.

 

[Guest]

What's with all the deleted posts? I mean I'm all for the mods ensuring a certain standard on here, but if you want to start deleting any post that isn't slightly on track or is slightly amusing then there's not going to be much on here. I've seen post with personal bagging or having a crack on spelling etc and that gets let go. Mods, can i ask what criteria you have for deleting posts? or does this depend on how picky you are each day?

Discretionary. Off topic posts are generally tolerated unless they overrun a thread. Personal insults are generally deleted, if they are still here they have been missed.

If you have concerns about posts that have been left, feel free to report them.

G'day @Cultured_Bogan I second what @Tcat said re "I'm all for mods ensuring a certain standard on here" but please explain what "Off topic posts are generally tolerated unless they overrun a thread" from your post means.

I have had many of my posts deleted which have contained no swearing or put downs.

Three of those deleted posts were welcoming new members to our Wests Tigers Forum, and I believe I was friendly and welcoming in my wording.

A post of mine in this thread in support of @Strongee was deleted as well as his post, and again I believe neither his or my post warranted deletion.

You rarely stick to a topic which is why your posts get deleted.

 

[BZN]

What's with all the deleted posts? I mean I'm all for the mods ensuring a certain standard on here, but if you want to start deleting any post that isn't slightly on track or is slightly amusing then there's not going to be much on here. I've seen post with personal bagging or having a crack on spelling etc and that gets let go. Mods, can i ask what criteria you have for deleting posts? or does this depend on how picky you are each day?

Discretionary. Off topic posts are generally tolerated unless they overrun a thread. Personal insults are generally deleted, if they are still here they have been missed.

If you have concerns about posts that have been left, feel free to report them.

G'day @Cultured_Bogan I second what @Tcat said re "I'm all for mods ensuring a certain standard on here" but please explain what "Off topic posts are generally tolerated unless they overrun a thread" from your post means.

I have had many of my posts deleted which have contained no swearing or put downs.

Three of those deleted posts were welcoming new members to our Wests Tigers Forum, and I believe I was friendly and welcoming in my wording.

A post of mine in this thread in support of @Strongee was deleted as well as his post, and again I believe neither his or my post warranted deletion.

You rarely stick to a topic which is why your posts get deleted.

[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry to say this...but I feel there is a lack of consistency here.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

What's with all the deleted posts? I mean I'm all for the mods ensuring a certain standard on here, but if you want to start deleting any post that isn't slightly on track or is slightly amusing then there's not going to be much on here. I've seen post with personal bagging or having a crack on spelling etc and that gets let go. Mods, can i ask what criteria you have for deleting posts? or does this depend on how picky you are each day?

Discretionary. Off topic posts are generally tolerated unless they overrun a thread. Personal insults are generally deleted, if they are still here they have been missed.

If you have concerns about posts that have been left, feel free to report them.

G'day @Cultured_Bogan I second what @Tcat said re "I'm all for mods ensuring a certain standard on here" but please explain what "Off topic posts are generally tolerated unless they overrun a thread" from your post means.

I have had many of my posts deleted which have contained no swearing or put downs.

Three of those deleted posts were welcoming new members to our Wests Tigers Forum, and I believe I was friendly and welcoming in my wording.

A post of mine in this thread in support of @Strongee was deleted as well as his post, and again I believe neither his or my post warranted deletion.

You rarely stick to a topic which is why your posts get deleted.

I'm sorry to say this...but I feel there is a lack of consistency here.

To be fair, the whole thread was garbage to.start with so rubbish belongs with it.

 

[Tim Sheens]

NRL's embarrassing Reynolds backflip
WWOS staff 16 mins ago
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The NRL has been forced to remove Josh Reynolds from an anti-domestic violence ad campaign, following the Wests Tigers player being charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm relating to an alleged domestic violence incident.

The former State of Origin star was granted conditional bail to appear at Sutherland Local Court on Wednesday, December 18, where he will vigorously defend the charge.

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An apprehended violence application has also been made on behalf of the woman.

**The NRL moved quickly to pull Reynolds from the campaign which was filmed about a month ago.**

Reynolds was in the video with several former NRL players as part of the game's "Voice Against Violence" campaign.

In the video, Raiders great Alan Tongue lays out the details of the program which is designed "for our 16, 18 year-old footballers and delivering key rugby league skills and drills but also a social message.

"Domestic violence can be a really tough topic to talk about; we can use the great game of rugby league to empower young people to make the right choices."

Reynolds is seen in the clip embracing teenage players.

In another humiliating twist, the former Bulldogs star also took part in a march through Lakemba to help raise awareness of domestic violence in 2015. He also had a White Ribbon logo attached to his Bulldogs' Auckland Nines jersey in the same year.

The NRL is working with Wests Tigers and the Integrity Unit to determine whether Reynolds should be stood down from club duties.

"The NRL takes any allegation of violence or disrespect towards women extremely seriously," an NRL spokesperson said.

The Integrity Unit is seeking further information from NSW Police before determining any immediate action..

Earlier this year the NRL enacted a "no fault" stand down policy, allowing CEO Todd Greenberg to use his discretion to suspend players charged with criminal offences, particularly those involving women and children.

Manly Sea Eagles player Dylan Walker and Penrith's Tyrone May were both stood down for the duration of the court process under the law.

The maximum jail term for assault occasioning actual bodily harm in NSW is five years, which falls below the requirements to trigger an automatic stand down.


You would think that if JR had any inkling that he may have committed an offence in Sept that he would have excused himself from being part of the NRL campaign and video that was only filmed in November. Also the court appearance on Dec 18 will more than likely only hear initial submissions and be adjourned till sometime in the new year which will really throw a spanner in the works if the NRL follow the same path as the Dylan Walker case.

Unbelievably stupid.

 

[Newtown]

NRL's embarrassing Reynolds backflip
WWOS staff 16 mins ago
.
The NRL has been forced to remove Josh Reynolds from an anti-domestic violence ad campaign, following the Wests Tigers player being charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm relating to an alleged domestic violence incident.

The former State of Origin star was granted conditional bail to appear at Sutherland Local Court on Wednesday, December 18, where he will vigorously defend the charge.

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An apprehended violence application has also been made on behalf of the woman.

**The NRL moved quickly to pull Reynolds from the campaign which was filmed about a month ago.**

Reynolds was in the video with several former NRL players as part of the game's "Voice Against Violence" campaign.

In the video, Raiders great Alan Tongue lays out the details of the program which is designed "for our 16, 18 year-old footballers and delivering key rugby league skills and drills but also a social message.

"Domestic violence can be a really tough topic to talk about; we can use the great game of rugby league to empower young people to make the right choices."

Reynolds is seen in the clip embracing teenage players.

In another humiliating twist, the former Bulldogs star also took part in a march through Lakemba to help raise awareness of domestic violence in 2015. He also had a White Ribbon logo attached to his Bulldogs' Auckland Nines jersey in the same year.

The NRL is working with Wests Tigers and the Integrity Unit to determine whether Reynolds should be stood down from club duties.

"The NRL takes any allegation of violence or disrespect towards women extremely seriously," an NRL spokesperson said.

The Integrity Unit is seeking further information from NSW Police before determining any immediate action..

Earlier this year the NRL enacted a "no fault" stand down policy, allowing CEO Todd Greenberg to use his discretion to suspend players charged with criminal offences, particularly those involving women and children.

Manly Sea Eagles player Dylan Walker and Penrith's Tyrone May were both stood down for the duration of the court process under the law.

The maximum jail term for assault occasioning actual bodily harm in NSW is five years, which falls below the requirements to trigger an automatic stand down.


You would think that if JR had any inkling that he may have committed an offence in Sept that he would have excused himself from being part of the NRL campaign and video that was only filmed in November. Also the court appearance on Dec 18 will more than likely only hear initial submissions and be adjourned till sometime in the new year which will really throw a spanner in the works if the NRL follow the same path as the Dylan Walker case.

Unbelievably stupid.

I never wrote that statement.

 

[Tim Sheens]

NRL's embarrassing Reynolds backflip
WWOS staff 16 mins ago
.
The NRL has been forced to remove Josh Reynolds from an anti-domestic violence ad campaign, following the Wests Tigers player being charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm relating to an alleged domestic violence incident.

The former State of Origin star was granted conditional bail to appear at Sutherland Local Court on Wednesday, December 18, where he will vigorously defend the charge.

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An apprehended violence application has also been made on behalf of the woman.

**The NRL moved quickly to pull Reynolds from the campaign which was filmed about a month ago.**

Reynolds was in the video with several former NRL players as part of the game's "Voice Against Violence" campaign.

In the video, Raiders great Alan Tongue lays out the details of the program which is designed "for our 16, 18 year-old footballers and delivering key rugby league skills and drills but also a social message.

"Domestic violence can be a really tough topic to talk about; we can use the great game of rugby league to empower young people to make the right choices."

Reynolds is seen in the clip embracing teenage players.

In another humiliating twist, the former Bulldogs star also took part in a march through Lakemba to help raise awareness of domestic violence in 2015. He also had a White Ribbon logo attached to his Bulldogs' Auckland Nines jersey in the same year.

The NRL is working with Wests Tigers and the Integrity Unit to determine whether Reynolds should be stood down from club duties.

"The NRL takes any allegation of violence or disrespect towards women extremely seriously," an NRL spokesperson said.

The Integrity Unit is seeking further information from NSW Police before determining any immediate action..

Earlier this year the NRL enacted a "no fault" stand down policy, allowing CEO Todd Greenberg to use his discretion to suspend players charged with criminal offences, particularly those involving women and children.

Manly Sea Eagles player Dylan Walker and Penrith's Tyrone May were both stood down for the duration of the court process under the law.

The maximum jail term for assault occasioning actual bodily harm in NSW is five years, which falls below the requirements to trigger an automatic stand down.


You would think that if JR had any inkling that he may have committed an offence in Sept that he would have excused himself from being part of the NRL campaign and video that was only filmed in November. Also the court appearance on Dec 18 will more than likely only hear initial submissions and be adjourned till sometime in the new year which will really throw a spanner in the works if the NRL follow the same path as the Dylan Walker case.

Unbelievably stupid.

I never wrote that statement.

Not you @Newtown, Josh for participating in the production with his knowledge.

 

[Harvey]

Domestic violence in any form is disgrace, but it is ironic how the table have turned.

20 years ago a female victim would cower in the corner with next to no support from authorities, friends or work colleagues. Even her family would sort it out behind closed doors.

Now a male can be attacked by a bunny boiler with a knife and unless he lays down and allows himself to be stabbed, it is likely that any self defence will see him facing an AVO and criminal charges unless there is an independent witness present.

 

[Tiger5150]

Domestic violence in any form is disgrace, but it is ironic how the table have turned.

20 years ago a female victim would cower in the corner with next to no support from authorities, friends or work colleagues. Even her family would sort it out behind closed doors.

Now a male can be attacked by a bunny boiler with a knife and unless he lays down and allows himself to be stabbed, it is likely that any self defence will see him facing an AVO and criminal charges unless there is an independent witness present.

Man there is a fair bit of wild leaping to conclusions here. What has prompted you to post this? What do any of us know about this case to indicate where it stands on the spectrum you have outlined?

 

[the_third]

Domestic violence in any form is disgrace, but it is ironic how the table have turned.

20 years ago a female victim would cower in the corner with next to no support from authorities, friends or work colleagues. Even her family would sort it out behind closed doors.

Now a male can be attacked by a bunny boiler with a knife and unless he lays down and allows himself to be stabbed, it is likely that any self defence will see him facing an AVO and criminal charges unless there is an independent witness present.


Man there is a fair bit of wild leaping to conclusions here. What has prompted you to post this? What do any of us know about this case to indicate where it stands on the spectrum you have outlined?

No more wild than the other conclusions being jumped to. As @Harvey said domestic violence in any form is a disgrace.

Probably good to see how this plays out in court

 

[Harvey]

Domestic violence in any form is disgrace, but it is ironic how the table have turned.

20 years ago a female victim would cower in the corner with next to no support from authorities, friends or work colleagues. Even her family would sort it out behind closed doors.

Now a male can be attacked by a bunny boiler with a knife and unless he lays down and allows himself to be stabbed, it is likely that any self defence will see him facing an AVO and criminal charges unless there is an independent witness present.


Man there is a fair bit of wild leaping to conclusions here. What has prompted you to post this? What do any of us know about this case to indicate where it stands on the spectrum you have outlined?

Is not a statement around this particular case, but a general view. If you look at recent high profile cases, SKD and Semi were charged and had their reputations dragged through the mud despite limited evidence to support being charged.

In saying that others have been found not guilty despite independent corroborating witnesses, and so the legal system is not perfect either.

I would suggest that once an allegation is made, it is likely that the alleged perpetrator will be left to play court lotto regardless of the standard of evidence that exists against them.

 

[Newtown]

NRL's embarrassing Reynolds backflip
WWOS staff 16 mins ago
.
The NRL has been forced to remove Josh Reynolds from an anti-domestic violence ad campaign, following the Wests Tigers player being charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm relating to an alleged domestic violence incident.

The former State of Origin star was granted conditional bail to appear at Sutherland Local Court on Wednesday, December 18, where he will vigorously defend the charge.

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An apprehended violence application has also been made on behalf of the woman.

**The NRL moved quickly to pull Reynolds from the campaign which was filmed about a month ago.**

Reynolds was in the video with several former NRL players as part of the game's "Voice Against Violence" campaign.

In the video, Raiders great Alan Tongue lays out the details of the program which is designed "for our 16, 18 year-old footballers and delivering key rugby league skills and drills but also a social message.

"Domestic violence can be a really tough topic to talk about; we can use the great game of rugby league to empower young people to make the right choices."

Reynolds is seen in the clip embracing teenage players.

In another humiliating twist, the former Bulldogs star also took part in a march through Lakemba to help raise awareness of domestic violence in 2015. He also had a White Ribbon logo attached to his Bulldogs' Auckland Nines jersey in the same year.

The NRL is working with Wests Tigers and the Integrity Unit to determine whether Reynolds should be stood down from club duties.

"The NRL takes any allegation of violence or disrespect towards women extremely seriously," an NRL spokesperson said.

The Integrity Unit is seeking further information from NSW Police before determining any immediate action..

Earlier this year the NRL enacted a "no fault" stand down policy, allowing CEO Todd Greenberg to use his discretion to suspend players charged with criminal offences, particularly those involving women and children.

Manly Sea Eagles player Dylan Walker and Penrith's Tyrone May were both stood down for the duration of the court process under the law.

The maximum jail term for assault occasioning actual bodily harm in NSW is five years, which falls below the requirements to trigger an automatic stand down.


You would think that if JR had any inkling that he may have committed an offence in Sept that he would have excused himself from being part of the NRL campaign and video that was only filmed in November. Also the court appearance on Dec 18 will more than likely only hear initial submissions and be adjourned till sometime in the new year which will really throw a spanner in the works if the NRL follow the same path as the Dylan Walker case.

Unbelievably stupid.

I never wrote that statement.

Not you @Newtown, Josh for participating in the production with his knowledge.

Sorry mate, my bad understanding.

 

[Demps]

Domestic violence in any form is disgrace, but it is ironic how the table have turned.

20 years ago a female victim would cower in the corner with next to no support from authorities, friends or work colleagues. Even her family would sort it out behind closed doors.

Now a male can be attacked by a bunny boiler with a knife and unless he lays down and allows himself to be stabbed, it is likely that any self defence will see him facing an AVO and criminal charges unless there is an independent witness present.

Facts.
Great post.

See the white knights already having an issue with it though.

Two sides to every story.

 

[trentrunciman]

Domestic violence in any form is disgrace, but it is ironic how the table have turned.

20 years ago a female victim would cower in the corner with next to no support from authorities, friends or work colleagues. Even her family would sort it out behind closed doors.

Now a male can be attacked by a bunny boiler with a knife and unless he lays down and allows himself to be stabbed, it is likely that any self defence will see him facing an AVO and criminal charges unless there is an independent witness present.

i heard someyhing about that on ABC radio. Men were calling in reporting of female violence to men. But it isn;t reported in media. Interesting stuff.

 

[fair dinkum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rksKvZoUCPQ

 

[JD Tiger]

I hear this innocent until proven guilty sentiment a lot, and from my understanding never having had any legal training, I think it's meant to be at the root of our justice system - but it just ain't so. Allegations of DV stick to people because of the highly sensitive and emotionally charged nature of DV. These allegations may be dropped, there may be nothing to them, they may be completely falsified, but in a lot of peoples eyes Josh will have this hanging over his head a long time (maybe forever) regardless.

I have no knowledge of what happened here, I don't know anyone involved. If it's a lie, Josh needs help, because being falsely accused of this is huge. And if it's true, Josh needs help, as he needs to change or he should (imo) end up in prison as all people should who treat others like that.

Either way, the NRL will just try to protect their image, WT need to help Josh as he's our responsibility. To the lady on the other side, whatever happened, I hope you're alright and this while situation ends soon and never happens again to you/ with you.


No mate , what you’re talking about is called a kangaroo court . There’s no justice in the fact this happens and in many ways it actually interferes with any search for true justice , as it clouds both the narrative as well as the inevitable resolution . People suck , and rarely find out all the information before forming , sometimes life changing opinions , and actions .
It’s kind of crazy really .

I agree completely with what you have said, there's no justice in the way described, and it sucks that it's like that. It shouldnt be like that. But it is like that.

Reynolds has been charged, not found guilty, and the NRL are already running for the hills, understandably so because public perception has already started to change. It shouldn't have, but it has.

 

[Ponyo]

"Wests Tigers NRL star Josh Reynolds has pleaded not guilty to a charge relating to an alleged domestic violence incident.
The 30-year-old appeared on Wednesday at Sutherland Local Court where his lawyer Dan McGirr entered a plea of not guilty to domestic violence-related assault occasioning actual bodily harm.

Mr McGirr also told magistrate Sharon Freund that Reynolds would contest an apprehended violence order in place." - via FOXsports

 

[851]

"Wests Tigers NRL star Josh Reynolds has pleaded not guilty to a charge relating to an alleged domestic violence incident.
The 30-year-old appeared on Wednesday at Sutherland Local Court where his lawyer Dan McGirr entered a plea of not guilty to domestic violence-related assault occasioning actual bodily harm.

Mr McGirr also told magistrate Sharon Freund that Reynolds would contest an apprehended violence order in place." - via FOXsports

Also said adjourned until August 2020, don't know what that means now

 

[Ponyo]

"Wests Tigers NRL star Josh Reynolds has pleaded not guilty to a charge relating to an alleged domestic violence incident.
The 30-year-old appeared on Wednesday at Sutherland Local Court where his lawyer Dan McGirr entered a plea of not guilty to domestic violence-related assault occasioning actual bodily harm.

Mr McGirr also told magistrate Sharon Freund that Reynolds would contest an apprehended violence order in place." - via FOXsports

Also said adjourned until August 2020, don't know what that means now

I don't think he's going to be stood down 851
Given that the alleged offences were committed in September. Also worth noting that Reynolds' lawyer made an application to contest the apprehended violence order (AVO).

Add to that there were no witnesses (unlike Dildo Walker's case). From what I understand he's been charged with common assault which is a section 10 offence, weak case in my opinion. He wanted to break up with her.