Josh Reynolds

[Tiger5150]

Geez 21 games across 3 seasons on his money has to make him our worst ever signing. He had to go.

Matt Ballin, 40 minutes playing time in 2 years would be up there too.

Ballin didn't really cost anything, was heavily subsidised by Manly. Overall, Reynolds is the worst signing in WT history imo.

Mbye is still up there for me. Hes played so much more than Josh Rey, yet i feel hes contributed less to the team. At least Josh looked like he gave a ?.

Mbye has made contributions, and I generally think he's a good player. He's just maligned so heavily due to his overinflated salary. If he was on $400k he wouldn't get the same criticism.

Mbye has played and done a decent job for us. Reynolds is our worst ever signing and it's not even close.


I cannot even think of one highlight to take from mbye in 2020, solid player who gives you the bare minimum a first grade player should, but that’s about it

***If reynolds played the same amount of game time as him there would have been daylight.***

Not even sure if Mbye has received one MOTM award playing for us? Grub has received multiple

There is a reason that Reynolds didn't play the same amount of game time and it isnt injuries.

Benji is why.

Brooks and Reynolds combined well when they played together this year


Exactly, Josh Reynolds standard of play and training was such that a 35yo who cant defend was preferred. Not a ringing endorsement.

Erm

Reynolds getting suspended in the souffs game probably didn’t help his cause. I’m not even trying to justify reynolds was a good signing lol. Just that when he put the jersey on he gave it his all

And from my viewing this year, I can’t say the same about mbye

All cool and we are both entitled to our opinions. IMO Reynolds is very demonstrative about his "*effort*" . Mbye isnt but just because Mbye isnt constantly putting on a show, eyes rolling around in his head or running in circles like a decapitated chook, doesnt mean he wasnt putting in.

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

Geez 21 games across 3 seasons on his money has to make him our worst ever signing. He had to go.

Matt Ballin, 40 minutes playing time in 2 years would be up there too.

Ballin didn't really cost anything, was heavily subsidised by Manly. Overall, Reynolds is the worst signing in WT history imo.

Mbye is still up there for me. Hes played so much more than Josh Rey, yet i feel hes contributed less to the team. At least Josh looked like he gave a ?.

Mbye has made contributions, and I generally think he's a good player. He's just maligned so heavily due to his overinflated salary. If he was on $400k he wouldn't get the same criticism.

Mbye has played and done a decent job for us. Reynolds is our worst ever signing and it's not even close.


I cannot even think of one highlight to take from mbye in 2020, solid player who gives you the bare minimum a first grade player should, but that’s about it

***If reynolds played the same amount of game time as him there would have been daylight.***

Not even sure if Mbye has received one MOTM award playing for us? Grub has received multiple

There is a reason that Reynolds didn't play the same amount of game time and it isnt injuries.

Benji is why.

Brooks and Reynolds combined well when they played together this year


Exactly, Josh Reynolds standard of play and training was such that a 35yo who cant defend was preferred. Not a ringing endorsement.

DIsagree. Benji was preferred due to club politics. Reynolds should have been straight back in after his suspension ended.

 

[Tiger5150]

Geez 21 games across 3 seasons on his money has to make him our worst ever signing. He had to go.

Matt Ballin, 40 minutes playing time in 2 years would be up there too.

Ballin didn't really cost anything, was heavily subsidised by Manly. Overall, Reynolds is the worst signing in WT history imo.

Mbye is still up there for me. Hes played so much more than Josh Rey, yet i feel hes contributed less to the team. At least Josh looked like he gave a ?.

Mbye has made contributions, and I generally think he's a good player. He's just maligned so heavily due to his overinflated salary. If he was on $400k he wouldn't get the same criticism.

Mbye has played and done a decent job for us. Reynolds is our worst ever signing and it's not even close.


I cannot even think of one highlight to take from mbye in 2020, solid player who gives you the bare minimum a first grade player should, but that’s about it

***If reynolds played the same amount of game time as him there would have been daylight.***

Not even sure if Mbye has received one MOTM award playing for us? Grub has received multiple

There is a reason that Reynolds didn't play the same amount of game time and it isnt injuries.

Benji is why.

Brooks and Reynolds combined well when they played together this year


Exactly, Josh Reynolds standard of play and training was such that a 35yo who cant defend was preferred. Not a ringing endorsement.

DIsagree. Benji was preferred due to club politics. Reynolds should have been straight back in after his suspension ended.

Interesting opinion. How would you reconcile Benji being dropped earlier in the year with that theory?

So Benji was dropped on form and Reynolds forced his way into the team by his form in June, but when Reynolds couldnt force his way back into the team after suspension...thats club politics?

 

[earl]

If reynolds played the same amount of game time as him there would have been daylight.

No. Reynolds was terrible. The best place for him for us is clearly not on the park. The more he played the more obvious it was that he was hopeless.

This is not stating that Mbye is a good buy. He has been a pretty poor buy.

 

[Speed2burn]

If reynolds played the same amount of game time as him there would have been daylight.

No. Reynolds was terrible. The best place for him for us is clearly not on the park. The more he played the more obvious it was that he was hopeless.

This is not stating that Mbye is a good buy. He has been a pretty poor buy.

Certain results say we actually played some of our best footy with Reynolds on the park this year

V Canberra 14-6 (Loss) if I remember correctly we were well in this game until a few mishaps from Packer cost us

V Bulldogs 34-6 (win) Apart from the broncos games probably our most complete 80 min performance

V Cowboys 36-20 (win) 36-0 at half time and clocked off heavily in the 2nd half (due to injuries mainly)

V Penrith 19-12 (loss) another quality 80 min performance from the team, deadlocked with 10 mins to go against the eventual grand finalists and team that went on a 16 game winning streak.

V Souffs 20-12 (loss) absolutely nothing went our way in the 1st half, I hate blaming referees but he gave us absolutely nothing.

So basically our losses with him in the starting line up were against high quality teams, and not by much

Not as “terrible” as you state, if we go off team performance

 

[earl]

Not as “terrible” as you state, if we go off team performance

It's a subjective opinion however I don't think your points on the games above give any credence to the argument that he wasn't that bad. I'll give him this at times his defense was a lot better than Benji's but I was actually going to give him a better wrap here and state his defense was great but the problem is I also remember some shocking misreads. He did have some moments in attack as well.

To me that ability to compete that is a positive point just didn't work for him. He just seemed to be trying too hard. He didn't have and never did have Benji's ball playing ability. His defense was better than Benji's but that isn't stating much.

Honestly I think on significantly less dollars and if he had a better run with injuries the signing could have worked out but it was always a really bad contract for us. He was a Dogs fan favourite and they were dumping him. For whatever reason he wasn't up to it at that point and we signed him as our marquee player. In some ways I feel sorry for him but on the flip side he has been paid well and is now going overseas to be paid well again. I hope he plays good footy over there.

 

[Speed2burn]

Not as “terrible” as you state, if we go off team performance

It's a subjective opinion however I don't think your points on the games above give any credence to the argument that he wasn't that bad. I'll give him this at times his defense was a lot better than Benji's but I was actually going to give him a better wrap here and state his defense was great but the problem is I also remember some shocking misreads. He did have some moments in attack as well.

To me that ability to compete that is a positive point just didn't work for him. He just seemed to be trying too hard. He didn't have and never did have Benji's ball playing ability. His defense was better than Benji's but that isn't stating much.

Honestly I think on significantly less dollars and if he had a better run with injuries the signing could have worked out but it was always a really bad contract for us. He was a Dogs fan favourite and they were dumping him. For whatever reason he wasn't up to it at that point and we signed him as our marquee player. In some ways I feel sorry for him but on the flip side he has been paid well and is now going overseas to be paid well again. I hope he plays good footy over there.

I definitely don’t think he was a star by any means, but his defense was considerably better than Marshall’s. We also seemed to defend better as a unit with him in the 17, as evident in the results I posted above

Anyways we all know Marshall has been shocking in defense for as long as we can remember, he could easily set up 2 tries and just as easily let in 3. But I think reynolds energy in defense, especially in today’s game was much more effective. The real up and in your face type stuff, enough to stop the opposition and bide time for reinforcements to help

 

[Tiger5150]

Anyways we all know Marshall has been shocking in defense for as long as we can remember, he could easily set up 2 tries and just as easily let in 3. But I think reynolds energy in defense, especially in today’s game was much more effective. ***The real up and in your face type stuff***, enough to stop the opposition and bide time for reinforcements to help

That real up and in your face stuff use to drive me insane. He would CONSTANTLY scream up out of the line and it must have been hard for the defenders around him to compensate.

For mine this is part of Reynolds biggest drawbacks in this team. Much has been made of him building his game around "energy and effort" in the absence of skill or talent. That is all well and good but it relies on high energy or energy effort plays which always looked to me to be him trying to show how hard he was "trying", when what we need was a player to play his part in the team game plan. He never looked to me to be part of the game plan and his screaming up in defence was the perfect example of this.

 

[Speed2burn]

Anyways we all know Marshall has been shocking in defense for as long as we can remember, he could easily set up 2 tries and just as easily let in 3. But I think reynolds energy in defense, especially in today’s game was much more effective. ***The real up and in your face type stuff***, enough to stop the opposition and bide time for reinforcements to help

That real up and in your face stuff use to drive me insane. He would CONSTANTLY scream up out of the line and it must have been hard for the defenders around him to compensate.

For mine this is part of Reynolds biggest drawbacks in this team. Much has been made of him building his game around "energy and effort" in the absence of skill or talent. That is all well and good but it relies on high energy or energy effort plays which always looked to me to be him trying to show how hard he was "trying", when what we need was a player to play his part in the team game plan. He never looked to me to be part of the game plan and his screaming up in defence was the perfect example of this.

It honestly worked though. If you think about it, ball carrier has to stop, swab him off, then the defense comes in and swarms. Risk v reward sort of thing which he pulled off fairly often

Looks ugly on the stat sheet though, and would be annoying if you were defending either side of him I agree

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Geez 21 games across 3 seasons on his money has to make him our worst ever signing. He had to go.

Matt Ballin, 40 minutes playing time in 2 years would be up there too.

A JT special, that buy also ended up costing us a $700k of cap to watch Farah play at souths, plus $375k salary cap penalty for 2 years as well, plus the roll on effect, that was the very worst buy in the clubs history for a variety of reasons.
I maintain that buy and the treatment of Farah by JT was a big factor in the big 3 leaving.

My impression is that Robbie being at the club is a big reason they left. I don't think they liked Robbie or at least the only one out of the 3 that left that hurt definitely didn't like him.

I actually think JT was trying to shaft Robbie to keep some of those guys happy.

remember also that Isaac Moses wanted Joe Weihbie employed at the tigers too. if we had done that we would havenprobably kept tedesco and Mitchell Moses and likely woods but we would have been held to ransom by Isaac and JW

 

[earl]

Geez 21 games across 3 seasons on his money has to make him our worst ever signing. He had to go.

Matt Ballin, 40 minutes playing time in 2 years would be up there too.

A JT special, that buy also ended up costing us a $700k of cap to watch Farah play at souths, plus $375k salary cap penalty for 2 years as well, plus the roll on effect, that was the very worst buy in the clubs history for a variety of reasons.
I maintain that buy and the treatment of Farah by JT was a big factor in the big 3 leaving.

My impression is that Robbie being at the club is a big reason they left. I don't think they liked Robbie or at least the only one out of the 3 that left that hurt definitely didn't like him.

I actually think JT was trying to shaft Robbie to keep some of those guys happy.

remember also that Isaac Moses wanted Joe Weihbie employed at the tigers too. if we had done that we would havenprobably kept tedesco and Mitchell Moses and likely woods but we would have been held to ransom by Isaac and JW

Wehbe and Tedesco are pretty close aren't they. I think JT was thrown into a pretty bad situation. Tedesco wanting to get everything his way. Robbie not fitting into that environment. JT trying to face the issue but stuffing it up completely.

 

[kiwitiger]

If reynolds played the same amount of game time as him there would have been daylight.

No. Reynolds was terrible. The best place for him for us is clearly not on the park. The more he played the more obvious it was that he was hopeless.

This is not stating that Mbye is a good buy. He has been a pretty poor buy.

Certain results say we actually played some of our best footy with Reynolds on the park this year

V Canberra 14-6 (Loss) if I remember correctly we were well in this game until a few mishaps from Packer cost us

V Bulldogs 34-6 (win) Apart from the broncos games probably our most complete 80 min performance

V Cowboys 36-20 (win) 36-0 at half time and clocked off heavily in the 2nd half (due to injuries mainly)

V Penrith 19-12 (loss) another quality 80 min performance from the team, deadlocked with 10 mins to go against the eventual grand finalists and team that went on a 16 game winning streak.

V Souffs 20-12 (loss) absolutely nothing went our way in the 1st half, I hate blaming referees but he gave us absolutely nothing.

So basically our losses with him in the starting line up were against high quality teams, and not by much

Not as “terrible” as you state, if we go off team performance

Gwad that is depressing...we lost 3 of our better performances last year. That is really depressing.

 

[Speed2burn]

If reynolds played the same amount of game time as him there would have been daylight.

No. Reynolds was terrible. The best place for him for us is clearly not on the park. The more he played the more obvious it was that he was hopeless.

This is not stating that Mbye is a good buy. He has been a pretty poor buy.

Certain results say we actually played some of our best footy with Reynolds on the park this year

V Canberra 14-6 (Loss) if I remember correctly we were well in this game until a few mishaps from Packer cost us

V Bulldogs 34-6 (win) Apart from the broncos games probably our most complete 80 min performance

V Cowboys 36-20 (win) 36-0 at half time and clocked off heavily in the 2nd half (due to injuries mainly)

V Penrith 19-12 (loss) another quality 80 min performance from the team, deadlocked with 10 mins to go against the eventual grand finalists and team that went on a 16 game winning streak.

V Souffs 20-12 (loss) absolutely nothing went our way in the 1st half, I hate blaming referees but he gave us absolutely nothing.

So basically our losses with him in the starting line up were against high quality teams, and not by much

Not as “terrible” as you state, if we go off team performance

Gwad that is depressing...we lost 3 of our better performances last year. That is really depressing.

Got me dude 🙁

 

[hank37w]

Geez 21 games across 3 seasons on his money has to make him our worst ever signing. He had to go.

Matt Ballin, 40 minutes playing time in 2 years would be up there too.

Ballin didn't really cost anything, was heavily subsidised by Manly. Overall, Reynolds is the worst signing in WT history imo.

Bwaith

At least he didn't cost us anything in Gatorade or strapping.

 

[TieDye]

Geez 21 games across 3 seasons on his money has to make him our worst ever signing. He had to go.

Matt Ballin, 40 minutes playing time in 2 years would be up there too.

Ballin didn't really cost anything, was heavily subsidised by Manly. Overall, Reynolds is the worst signing in WT history imo.

Mbye is still up there for me. Hes played so much more than Josh Rey, yet i feel hes contributed less to the team. At least Josh looked like he gave a ?.

Mbye has made contributions, and I generally think he's a good player. He's just maligned so heavily due to his overinflated salary. If he was on $400k he wouldn't get the same criticism.

Mbye has played and done a decent job for us. Reynolds is our worst ever signing and it's not even close.


I cannot even think of one highlight to take from mbye in 2020, solid player who gives you the bare minimum a first grade player should, but that’s about it

***If reynolds played the same amount of game time as him there would have been daylight.***

Not even sure if Mbye has received one MOTM award playing for us? Grub has received multiple

There is a reason that Reynolds didn't play the same amount of game time and it isnt injuries.

Benji is why.

Brooks and Reynolds combined well when they played together this year


Exactly, Josh Reynolds standard of play and training was such that a 35yo who cant defend was preferred. Not a ringing endorsement.

Disagree mate.. Joshy had demonstrably more injury issues and suspensions. Don’t think the age or form of either player had a lot to do with it. Same as round 1 the year before...

If you wanted to compare Benji and Josh ....the one thing you knew defensively josh was going to put it on the line no matter what and probably explains the injuries ...Benji ...but Josh needed the right people around him to be successful ...look at him with Hodgkinson at club and SOO level ...they were the only combination that beat Qld in that golden run ....

Big fan of that combination... wished Brooks would compare well with Hodgkinson and hoped he’d compliment Reynolds but it seems like they’ve never fully had a run to click, like finals...

 

[Tigercrb]

On a side note, who is Reynolds manager?

He has done one hell of a job for his client and has earnt his 6%.

He somehow brain washed Ivan into a huge 4 year deal at the tigers, when I can't recall any other clubs were offering anything close to the lottery he received.

And then, after about a dozen games in 3 years, he manages to again negotiate a 3 year deal for his 31 year old client.

He didn't let his client spend his contract year injured or in reserve grade. Just moved him onto the next long term deal.

Kudos, well played.

 

[cochise]

Geez 21 games across 3 seasons on his money has to make him our worst ever signing. He had to go.

Matt Ballin, 40 minutes playing time in 2 years would be up there too.

Ballin didn't really cost anything, was heavily subsidised by Manly. Overall, Reynolds is the worst signing in WT history imo.

Mbye is still up there for me. Hes played so much more than Josh Rey, yet i feel hes contributed less to the team. At least Josh looked like he gave a ?.

Mbye has made contributions, and I generally think he's a good player. He's just maligned so heavily due to his overinflated salary. If he was on $400k he wouldn't get the same criticism.

Mbye has played and done a decent job for us. Reynolds is our worst ever signing and it's not even close.


I cannot even think of one highlight to take from mbye in 2020, solid player who gives you the bare minimum a first grade player should, but that’s about it

***If reynolds played the same amount of game time as him there would have been daylight.***

Not even sure if Mbye has received one MOTM award playing for us? Grub has received multiple

There is a reason that Reynolds didn't play the same amount of game time and it isnt injuries.

Benji is why.

Brooks and Reynolds combined well when they played together this year


Exactly, Josh Reynolds standard of play and training was such that a 35yo who cant defend was preferred. Not a ringing endorsement.

DIsagree. Benji was preferred due to club politics. Reynolds should have been straight back in after his suspension ended.

Disagree, Reynolds was terrible in 2020.

 

[cochise]

If reynolds played the same amount of game time as him there would have been daylight.

No. Reynolds was terrible. The best place for him for us is clearly not on the park. The more he played the more obvious it was that he was hopeless.

This is not stating that Mbye is a good buy. He has been a pretty poor buy.

Certain results say we actually played some of our best footy with Reynolds on the park this year

V Canberra 14-6 (Loss) if I remember correctly we were well in this game until a few mishaps from Packer cost us

V Bulldogs 34-6 (win) Apart from the broncos games probably our most complete 80 min performance

V Cowboys 36-20 (win) 36-0 at half time and clocked off heavily in the 2nd half (due to injuries mainly)

V Penrith 19-12 (loss) another quality 80 min performance from the team, deadlocked with 10 mins to go against the eventual grand finalists and team that went on a 16 game winning streak.

V Souffs 20-12 (loss) absolutely nothing went our way in the 1st half, I hate blaming referees but he gave us absolutely nothing.

So basically our losses with him in the starting line up were against high quality teams, and not by much

Not as “terrible” as you state, if we go off team performance

Too be honest in some of those games the opposition wasn't even trying, the Bulldogs and Cowboys games were the worst defensive games I have ever seen. We would get down there end of the field and their defense was non existant.

 

[cochise]

Anyways we all know Marshall has been shocking in defense for as long as we can remember, he could easily set up 2 tries and just as easily let in 3. But I think reynolds energy in defense, especially in today’s game was much more effective. ***The real up and in your face type stuff***, enough to stop the opposition and bide time for reinforcements to help

That real up and in your face stuff use to drive me insane. He would CONSTANTLY scream up out of the line and it must have been hard for the defenders around him to compensate.

For mine this is part of Reynolds biggest drawbacks in this team. Much has been made of him building his game around "energy and effort" in the absence of skill or talent. That is all well and good but it relies on high energy or energy effort plays which always looked to me to be him trying to show how hard he was "trying", when what we need was a player to play his part in the team game plan. He never looked to me to be part of the game plan and his screaming up in defence was the perfect example of this.

Agree mate, there was one game this year, I can't remember which one it was but he kept rushing out of the line for no reason. At the time I remember commenting it was the opposite of the guy who sits back in the defensive line to draw runners towards him to pad his tackle stats. I think he was doing to force the attack the other way so he didn't have to make a tackle.

 

[cochise]

Anyways we all know Marshall has been shocking in defense for as long as we can remember, he could easily set up 2 tries and just as easily let in 3. But I think reynolds energy in defense, especially in today’s game was much more effective. ***The real up and in your face type stuff***, enough to stop the opposition and bide time for reinforcements to help

That real up and in your face stuff use to drive me insane. He would CONSTANTLY scream up out of the line and it must have been hard for the defenders around him to compensate.

For mine this is part of Reynolds biggest drawbacks in this team. Much has been made of him building his game around "energy and effort" in the absence of skill or talent. That is all well and good but it relies on high energy or energy effort plays which always looked to me to be him trying to show how hard he was "trying", when what we need was a player to play his part in the team game plan. He never looked to me to be part of the game plan and his screaming up in defence was the perfect example of this.

It honestly worked though. If you think about it, ball carrier has to stop, swab him off, then the defense comes in and swarms. Risk v reward sort of thing which he pulled off fairly often

Looks ugly on the stat sheet though, and would be annoying if you were defending either side of him I agree

No it didn't work